This is a Google+ post asking Samsung to release the source code for the bluetooth/audio/MHL/dock/display devices in our phone. If you're not aware, this code is NOT in the open source kernel. They are modules that load separately. We need this source code to make our phone the PERFECT Android phone. Cyanogenmod Dev Team can do wonders with this code! Please +1 this post or even make your own. We need to Samsung to hear us! Not all of us are programmers (definitely not me), so we need to contribute in other ways!
Jim
OccupySamsung!
I would say that the requested code might have some (if not all) proprietary code and even some "secret" code when it comes to the NHL part for the hdmi encryption...
But I could be completely wrong about that...
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Its possible, but any code drop would help. And the encryption you're thinking of would be HDCP and that should be handled by the chipset not the software.
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Just sent Samsung mobile USA a message on Facebook about the source code, hope they respond.
Please people, let's get Samsung to recognize us! We need this source to make our phones the best. I know I say that every couple of posts. I just hope that the guy above this post gets lots of 'likes' on his Facebook post to Sammy. Help him out guys/gals!
Jim
I actually once managed to get a message from a guy at Samsung Support telling me to reach out to SamsungJohn for developer needs...
I sent him a pretty nasty message back, going into post-by-post detail of SamsungJohn's complete failure to provide any help whatsoever to the developer community.
I'm seriously thinking that my next device will be a Sony - As much as I hate Sony in general, SE went above and beyond in terms of supporting the Cyanogenmod team, leading to their entire 2011 lineup being almost fully supported by CM. Meanwhile, Samsung sends a few CM team members devices as a publicity stunt and doesn't bother at all to provide any followup support.
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I actually once managed to get a message from a guy at Samsung Support telling me to reach out to SamsungJohn for developer needs...
I sent him a pretty nasty message back, going into post-by-post detail of SamsungJohn's complete failure to provide any help whatsoever to the developer community.
I'm seriously thinking that my next device will be a Sony - As much as I hate Sony in general, SE went above and beyond in terms of supporting the Cyanogenmod team, leading to their entire 2011 lineup being almost fully supported by CM. Meanwhile, Samsung sends a few CM team members devices as a publicity stunt and doesn't bother at all to provide any followup support.
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I saw the post you are talking about. And I sent a Twitter to SamsungJohn and never heard back. I know I keep talking about this, but something has to be changed. I'm on UnNamedROM right now, and while it's good, it's not CM. Maybe if Sammy releases ICS for the I9100/I777 then they'll release some more code for our phones. Probably don't want CM to show them up on releases. But either way, we need to make Samsung aware of our demands. And Entropy, thank you VERY much for your efforts with NFC, and WiFi tether. It's much appreciated!
Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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And the significance of that for our i777 would be....?
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Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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Maybe I missed it. I did a search and came up with nothing.
Kadin said:
And the significance of that for our i777 would be....?
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It might help us start to port it to our own device
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Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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No, it hasn't been released (except for the GPL kernel source) - nothing ICS-related, none of the audio libraries or anything like that have source code.
zedomax.com has nothing but pages and pages of stupid Top Five posts.
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No, it hasn't been released (except for the GPL kernel source) - nothing ICS-related, none of the audio libraries or anything like that have source code.
zedomax.com has nothing but pages and pages of stupid Top Five posts.
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galaxys2root.com and YouTube
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I tried reaching out to samsungjohn, too. Obviously no response.
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If only they would...I'm sure they're planning some event around it.
lol we can only hope.
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Specifically a question for developers:
So I'm just curious when do you guys think an ICS custom ROM might be available for our vibrants?
More specifically, has google released enough of the SDK and/or ICS code for someone to actually make a working ICS ROM?
Can't wait to see it in action!
Thanks
Edit: my question really is:
what requirements do developers need to start working on a custom ROM when a new OS is released?
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source hasnt dropped, the sdk is out and someone has it on the nexus s 4g, probably wont see a stable one until cm. also this is the wrong section.
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source hasnt dropped, the sdk is out and someone has it on the nexus s 4g, probably wont see a stable one until cm. also this is the wrong section.
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Cool.... thought this question was related to development...thats why i posted here...
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I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
3-4 Months until you have something usable. That is provided the Vibrant still has developers left to work on it. A lot of ppl switched.
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I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
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beren28 said:
I have ICS on my vibrant now. Real easy to jsut compile your own from the sdk and flash.
Can't get gps working though.
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[email protected] easy! Anyone anywhere who had working ics on a phone would be on every forum bragging till their head pops off..
There are hundreds of articles that say that google is releasing the source code once "it is officially on devices".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395048,00.asp
How long will it take them to have a working rom is another question. The gps issue we have with gingerbread has never been actually fixed, I think it is a driver issue..?
Either way, it all depends, but it IS a valid question once the source is released, until then people are just going to flame your thread.
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[email protected] easy! Anyone anywhere who had working ics on a phone would be on every forum bragging till their head pops off..
There are hundreds of articles that say that google is releasing the source code once "it is officially on devices".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395048,00.asp
How long will it take them to have a working rom is another question. The gps issue we have with gingerbread has never been actually fixed, I think it is a driver issue..?
Either way, it all depends, but it IS a valid question once the source is released, until then people are just going to flame your thread.
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Lol....they can flame away... just trying to learn as much as I can about this process ;}
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just trying to learn as much as I can about this process ;}
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Google is your friend.
And regardless if this is a question about development for developers, it's still the wrong section. That is why we have a "Q&A" section for future development or whatever.
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Google is your friend.
And regardless if this is a question about development for developers, it's still the wrong section. That is why we have a "Q&A" section for future development or whatever.
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Yeah... I got that already.... Thanks for repeating what someone else has already said.
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Cool.... thought this question was related to development...thats why i posted here...
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First of all, it's still a question, regardless of the content, unless there is a specific development thread about ics, this question belongs in the q&a section, you're not someone special where the rules don't apply.
Secondly, since source for ics hasn't even been released yet (this is the vibrant, so some sdk port won't ever work, regardless of your secret hopes and dreams), and even then, it's gonna take people a bit to get situated with the new code, and get used to the new features, apis, and bugs.
To ask for a timeline for something that's not even out into phones that it's actually built for is kinda insulting to people IMHO.
But, I give it 2-3 months after source drop to get into a basic useable form on the vibrant.
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Guys, I have started working on ICS, should get it booting tonight. Will do some work tomorrow and on weekend.
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First of all, it's still a question, regardless of the content, unless there is a specific development thread about ics, this question belongs in the q&a section, you're not someone special where the rules don't apply.
Secondly, since source for ics hasn't even been released yet (this is the vibrant, so some sdk port won't ever work, regardless of your secret hopes and dreams), and even then, it's gonna take people a bit to get situated with the new code, and get used to the new features, apis, and bugs.
To ask for a timeline for something that's not even out into phones that it's actually built for is kinda insulting to people IMHO.
But, I give it 2-3 months after source drop to get into a basic useable form on the vibrant.
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Dude... Really?.... Lol.... Hopes and dreams?.... What?.... Just asking a legit question.... I wasnt demanding a time frame.... Tard
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Dude... Really?.... Lol.... Hopes and dreams?.... What?.... Just asking a legit question.... I wasnt demanding a time frame.... Tard
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First, I never said you demanded a a timeline, I said you asked. And the hopes and dreams thing wasn't directly at you, it was directed at all the people who don't finish reading a sentence, and only tale from a sentence what they want and twist everything around (and also takes cares of the stupid "one can hope" comments).
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First, I never said you demanded a a timeline, I said you asked. And the hopes and dreams thing wasn't directly at you, it was directed at all the people who don't finish reading a sentence, and only tale from a sentence what they want and twist everything around (and also takes cares of the stupid "one can hope" comments).
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Ok.... Glad you could impart some useful information... Oh wait... Nevermind
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ali1276 said:
Guys, I have started working on ICS, should get it booting tonight. Will do some work tomorrow and on weekend.
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Glad to hear an good to see your still around
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If they actually do get an actual ICS rom going on the Vibrant \ i'll install it, regardless of GPS or no, i never use it anywho
Can I cut him? Please?
http://galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/ics-builds/
here's a Vibrant ICS custom ROM i saw on internet
Now that the galnet att miui thread is closed where can we find updates? I am aware that we can go to the galnet site but I only see the I9100, correct me if I'm wrong but we will have problems if we try to flash this version. If we don't get our own version on galnet what needs to be modified from the I9100 version to be compatible with our device. Sorry if it's a dumb question or if it has been answered elsewhere.
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Best bet would be to try and get galnet to add support for the att sgs2
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Why are galnet roms not allowed on XDA?
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according to the mod who locked the thread said galnet is not allowed on xda. did this group do something?
Lets jump on miui.us forums. Those roms have ota support. The dev seems new though.
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http://pastebin.com/kDkd0D0i
Here is something I found on it. Seems like they were asking for donations to get beta releases of their Roms and XDA did not approve...
Mod please reply
I for one would really appreciate a response from a moderator as to why, particularly given the conversation pasted in the above post, why it is that these threads were killed. On the surface, it seems arbitrary and without merit...
Went through other galnet threads that were closed and the reason is that they don't release their source for the rom.
yea they are shady. Good roms but they do not comply to gpl.
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I just got a (pretty quick) response from zelendel:
Galnet has been banned from XDA for breaking mutiple rules.
Check here
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/landing...160-XDA-Developers?p=7923&viewfull=1#post7923
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what about the non-galnet miui? Is that one okay?
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quarlow said:
what about the non-galnet miui? Is that one okay?
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That one also got pulled, well for the AT&T version I know it did. I do believe it was something to do with Techn and not to do with MIUI.us
yoderk said:
http://pastebin.com/kDkd0D0i
Here is something I found on it. Seems like they were asking for donations to get beta releases of their Roms and XDA did not approve...
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JKAY does that....
dan_maran said:
That one also got pulled, well for the AT&T version I know it did. I do believe it was something to do with Techn and not to do with MIUI.us
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But did it get pulled because it was merged with the galnet version, or did it get pulled for other reasons?
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JKAY does that....
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yeah I remember seeing a few devs doing that back in the cappy forum a while back..
Galnet is gone... I'm not sure if we'll see the whole story, but from what I can see, I can say I don't like their attitude. It also looks like this is something that has taken a LONG time to reach finality.
As to why vanilla MIUI might have been pulled - I don't know. I'm fairly certain vanilla MIUI for the I777 was kosher GPL-wise, unless there's another GPL component beyond the kernel in question.
Here, this may enlighten the situation a bit...
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It means that the android kernel is protected by GPL laws. Which means the source code has to be made available. MIUI breaks these laws and refuses to post the source. So all MIUI roms have to have a custom kernel not made by the MIUI team.
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zelendel said:
Please use the proper site to talk about this Rom. The galnet site is your best bet as this Rom is not supported on XDA due to GPL violations.
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It is built off of CM. The source has been asked for a few times and they flat out refuse to release the kernel source.
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So long story short, they violated several rules and GPL laws. They are gone and not coming back.
It didn't get pulled I had the admin removed it because it was to much drama at the time but it looks like I shouldnt have even tho I don't know as much as some ad these other dev, I'll reopen the thread and anyone is more than welcome to Help out with the development of the rom/port.
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Red5 said:
Here, this may enlighten the situation a bit...
Reference.
So long story short, they violated several rules and GPL laws. They are gone and not coming back.
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So you saying that as long as the miui rom is packaged with a open source available kernel it can be posted on xda ?
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So you saying that as long as the miui rom is packaged with a open source available kernel it can be posted on xda ?
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No, opposite. As long as they are not including the stock MIUI kernel with the rom then they are not breaking any XDA rules. But if you do see a MIUI rom including the stock MIUI kernel, thats where they break rules. There is a stock MIUI kernel built off of CM. The source has been asked for a few times and they flat out refuse to release the kernel source... so the upper staff decided to can the whole thing.
In lieu of all of these leaked ics roms from someone inside Samsung is this considered theft? And if we have this on our devices isn't there a chance we could potentially get in trouble if the right person were to find out?
With that said, xda does not support piracy because the software costs money and is given for free. The same goes with leaked roms that were stolen from samsung right? So xda mods, how can you support something like this and allow it on the forum? I'm neutral to this argument and would like your thoughts.
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The "leaked ROMs" are technically made up of open source material, so there is no theft issue. As for the person leaking them, they may be subject to disciplinary action by their employer, but there is no illegality for having said ROM on your phone. Most of these supposed "leaked ROMs" are actually leaked on purpose by the manufacturer as a way to get the flashing community to do their R&D for free. We are only too willing to help them in that.
haha yeah, samsung is just letting xda devs do some of the work!
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In lieu of all of these leaked ics roms from someone inside Samsung is this considered theft? And if we have this on our devices isn't there a chance we could potentially get in trouble if the right person were to find out?
With that said, xda does not support piracy because the software costs money and is given for free. The same goes with leaked roms that were stolen from samsung right? So xda mods, how can you support something like this and allow it on the forum? I'm neutral to this argument and would like your thoughts.
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Its not theft per say. These are roms (or software if you will) that is build from free source code provided by Google and is made FOR OUR PHONES. They have to build several roms to make sure all the bugs are out. They send out these "leaked" roms to testing to find all the hidden (or non-obvious) bugs so they can fix them before the rom is considered gold (or stable, official). You know as well as I do that once something hits the internet it spreads like wildfire, so thats how they get out in the masses.
Since there is no price on the roms and they are built from free source code, XDA is not responsible for anything in this regard.
The Apache license is a grey area in this regard. Similarly, the ICS leaks technically ARE GPL violations in that kernel source hasn't been included - however again it's a grey area since technically we're not supposed to have the binaries in the first place.
Also, I believe most leaks are not obtained by "theft", but by using an undocumented firmware update mode that lets the leaks be downloaded directly from Samsung's Kies update servers.
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Its not theft per say. These are roms (or software if you will) that is build from free source code provided by Google and is made FOR OUR PHONES. They have to build several roms to make sure all the bugs are out. They send out these "leaked" roms to testing to find all the hidden (or non-obvious) bugs so they can fix them before the rom is considered gold (or stable, official). You know as well as I do that once something hits the internet it spreads like wildfire, so thats how they get out in the masses.
Since there is no price on the roms and they are built from free source code, XDA is not responsible for anything in this regard.
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Hmm it just seems like that argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law? Its being taken no matter how you slice it. It was built using source but where's the intent to distribute? If there's no intent (yet) then they aren't obligated to release it based on gpl.
Thoughts?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420996
Bam. Legal, official ROM. DONE.
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The Apache license is a grey area in this regard. Similarly, the ICS leaks technically ARE GPL violations in that kernel source hasn't been included - however again it's a grey area since technically we're not supposed to have the binaries in the first place.
Also, I believe most leaks are not obtained by "theft", but by using an undocumented firmware update mode that lets the leaks be downloaded directly from Samsung's Kies update servers.
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Hmm it just seems like that argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law? Its being taken no matter how you slice it. It was built using source but where's the intent to distribute? If there's no intent (yet) then they aren't obligated to release it based on gpl.
Thoughts?
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As Entropy said, its a grey area. I guess technically it is a violation of GPL due to source not being released with the leak, but then the leak isnt being documented as gold or official, so since its still in its "testing" phase, it dosent count (which is why all leaked roms are required to say that they are leaked testing roms, not official and to flash at your own risk... official dropped roms will say official). Now if somebody took a leaked build with no source and distributed it as gold or official, then yes that would not hold up and would be in direct violation and could be held accountable.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420996
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No, not official, still a leak. The poster should not have used "Official" to describe a leak that happened to have a signed kernel.
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As Entropy said, its a grey area. I guess technically it is a violation of GPL due to source not being released with the leak, but then the leak isnt being documented as gold or official, so since its still in its "testing" phase, it dosent count (which is why all leaked roms are required to say that they are leaked testing roms, not official and to flash at your own risk... official dropped roms will say official). Now if somebody took a leaked build with no source and distributed it as gold or official, then yes that would not hold up and would be in direct violation and could be held accountable.
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Declaring that something is a test version does not permit you to withhold source code.
The main thing is that if you read the license, if you give the binary to someone, you are supposed to provide source. If you received a binary from someone with a written offer for source, you must pass on that written offer.
The problem is that Samsung is "providing" test versions to their testers - some people on XDA have just managed how to intercept this method of providing builds by polling Samsung's update servers, but NOT the method for intercepting the source or the source offer.
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No, not official, still a leak. The poster should not have used "Official" to describe a leak that happened to have a signed kernel.
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Buzzkill.
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No, not official, still a leak. The poster should not have used "Official" to describe a leak that happened to have a signed kernel.
Declaring that something is a test version does not permit you to withhold source code.
The main thing is that if you read the license, if you give the binary to someone, you are supposed to provide source. If you received a binary from someone with a written offer for source, you must pass on that written offer.
The problem is that Samsung is "providing" test versions to their testers - some people on XDA have just managed how to intercept this method of providing builds by polling Samsung's update servers, but NOT the method for intercepting the source or the source offer.
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I should have been more clear. I didnt mean that it permitted anyone to have without source code... but merely that Samsung does not have to provide it yet since it isnt official. By Samsung giving out a test build to test for bugs, they do not have to give out source code yet (mainly why they kept testing in house so its blanketed under the same company because the company does in fact have the source code from Google) until they release it outside the company.
And yes, just because some members intercept the leaked test builds, they were not handed to by Samsung which is why they do not have the source code in the first place. People here distribute it to other members but it is not attached here on XDA, they upload it to a share site and simply post the links here at XDA.
I work for the FBI and it is illegal. This is a bust and you're all under arrest. Post your addresses so we can come and arrest you. kthxbai
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I should have been more clear. I didnt mean that it permitted anyone to have without source code... but merely that Samsung does not have to provide it yet since it isnt official. By Samsung giving out a test build to test for bugs, they do not have to give out source code yet (mainly why they kept testing in house so its blanketed under the same company because the company does in fact have the source code from Google) until they release it outside the company.
And yes, just because some members intercept the leaked test builds, they were not handed to by Samsung which is why they do not have the source code in the first place. People here distribute it to other members but it is not attached here on XDA, they upload it to a share site and simply post the links here at XDA.
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Yup - that's basically it. The people whom Samsung is actually "providing" these builds to most likely have source code access.
We don't have source because they didn't really "provide" us the leak.
How u do dat
wonner said:
I work for the FBI and it is illegal. This is a bust and you're all under arrest. Post your addresses so we can come and arrest you. kthxbai
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I agree what a wasteful buzz kill post
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I agree what a wasteful buzz kill post
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Nobody asked you.
Who are you even responding too? What a wasteful post.
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OK guys this has gone on long enough. To respond to the OP. OEM have long allowed early builds to be leaked to XDA for bugging hunting and troubleshooting. Should do a little research before you start a thread like this.
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OK guys this has gone on long enough. To respond to the OP. OEM have long allowed early builds to be leaked to XDA for bugging hunting and troubleshooting. Should do a little research before you start a thread like this.
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Buzzkill...
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Yup
Currently and historically, which carriers and device manufacturers have supported consumer Android development the most?
I think Samsung.
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Sony and Samsung.
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Sony and Samsung.
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According to the current senario i will say Sony.. Yes, Samsung was very supportive initially.. But now a days Sony seems to extend more support than any other OEM.. dont forget that Sony was chosen as the OEM of the year by XDA last time.. .. And the latest news is that CM backing out from supporting SG S4.. for obvious reasons..
Exactly. Sony has been consistently becoming more awesome. A lot of the CM devs decided not to develop for Exynos devices because of improper documentation and source code for the processors by Samsung. The Snapdragon processor version will certainly get CM, and the other one will also likely get it. Like the Galaxy Note 2. A lot of prominent Samsung device devs refused to develop for it because it was troublesome, so someone else took it up. So yeah, in light of things Sony is the most proactive and actually seems to care about third party development.
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Hi everybody!! I have a question regarding MIUI lincensing. Is it open source or closed souce?? Because you can find the source code available to download at github, but in other sites it's said it is closed source. Maybe it is mixed source. What do you think?? I want to promote the freedom of Android, but I also love (really, I'm in love) MIUI.
anitadiamond22 said:
Hi everybody!! I have a question regarding MIUI lincensing. Is it open source or closed souce?? Because you can find the source code available to download at github, but in other sites it's said it is closed source. Maybe it is mixed source. What do you think?? I want to promote the freedom of Android, but I also love (really, I'm in love) MIUI.
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AFAIK its open source. It used to be closed source though.
Thanks for your fast response!! Any other thoughts??
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MIUI is closed sourced and in violation of the GPL laws. They have open sourced some apps partly but never fully. They are known for taking the work of others and not giving back to the dev community. Add in some real security issues.
Wayne Tech S-III
So MIUI's source is not actually in github, just some apps of it??
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anitadiamond22 said:
So MIUI's source is not actually in github, just some apps of it??
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Right. And not even the full source. That is why they are not respected around here. They took most of their coding from CM and then made it closed sourced.
Wayne Tech S-III
Mmm I don't like that. It's a shame since MIUI is by far my favourite rom out there. Do you think there's anything like it but open source. And please, don't tell me about OpenMIUI, it's ugly as hell.
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anitadiamond22 said:
Mmm I don't like that. It's a shame since MIUI is by far my favourite rom out there. Do you think there's anything like it but open source. And please, don't tell me about OpenMIUI, it's ugly as hell.
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Depends on what you mean by "anything like it" There are people working on taking MIUI and reverse enginering it and then gonna release the source but that is still some time away. MIUI doesnt do anything that most CM based roms dont do.
It violates gpl its a closed source.
It's one of the reasons why xda doesn't officialy support miui
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