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OK so my G Tablet is on the way and I've been reading and came across a comment on another forum that the ROM's that exist are built on the original stock software and that the most recent update may be causing problems with CWM? I will be getting my G Tablet on Wednesday, should I not do the update if I am going to be flashing a custom ROM? Thanks in advance!
drum747,
I believe everyone should make their own decisions. But if you ask me -- I'd tell you to simply stick with a stock G-Tablet right now.
When you get yours and go to Settings/About you can see the version -- something
like 1.1.xxxx -- probably 3588. If not, just about as soon as you get wifi connected
it will offer you an OTA (on the air) update to 3588. That's the current working version, and compared to the crud we had back last November it really isn't bad software.
It will lack the Market and some other things...you may have to be patient there.
But you can still side-load apps and download apps directly from a number of places.
But we are waiting. Our devs have found that there is software for a possible
Update 3991. The hope is that OTA 3991 will come down in the next few weeks.
If so, at 3588 stock you will be in perfect shape for that update. And then once you
have worked with it a while, you will be able to decide whether to stick with it -- or look at other options.
It seems like everyone who come in here looks at the ROMs available like a "all-you-can-eat" buffet. The immediately start flashing ROMs and moving around software
until something goes wrong and they are stuck. Indigestion!
With a good 3588 tablet, you can read and interact here and find out the biggest and
the best, and you can learn what you need to that when you are ready you can
move up to whatever you want without problems.
Do what you want. Enjoy the G-Tablet. I think it pretty darn good!
Rev
I agree.........
Stick with the most current stock version 3588. The next update officially available from viewsonic should be very soon, but I don't think it will be 3991 as advertised
3558 was different than what it started as, or it would seem based on what I have gathered from reading old threads.
ale
You know, I have a Droid X and have really enjoyed rooting it and trying different ROM's and was really looking forward to the same type of experience on this tablet. What is the advantage of waiting until the next update? Can't I update, do a full backup and go back to that if I want? Once I install a different ROM, I am then stuck at whatever update and no further updates? Is that why you are saying to wait? Are you saying there will be even better ROM's down the road based on the new update that is coming? Or just that the new update coming might have all the things we would like?
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. Just don't forget to make nvflash to factory stock your best friend ;-)
A little of both I guess. Part of the reason I chose this tablet over others is because of the support and customization (and price!) I will try to wait for the next update before I tweak it (if I can!) Heh!! Thanks for the responses guys!! I appreciate the input!
K J Rad said:
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. )
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This is without the best quote I could image. Tinkering without first using the tab and getting to realize it's not a giant phone is the first step I think everyone should understand.
And if you do tinker then you should expect it to have opportunities (problems ).
drum747,
Not addressing your abilities or anything about you.
But read all the crash and burn threads on this forum.
IMHO, to many people are trying to do to much too fast and are
messing up their tabs and have to be bailed out.
I'm just saying be cautious, move slowly and carefully and
don't get into trouble.
However, my advice still stands. If you move on to other
ROMS, etc. now, you will cut off access to offline updates.
Then you will have to go back to stock, etc. And
sometimes going back is as much as problem as going up!
It still would be easier to stay stock now and if an update
doesn't come down soon -- you will have read and learned
and be ready to make choices.
IMHO.
Rev
IMHO... if it ain't powering your pacemaker then learn how to nvflash and have fun.
Be part of the revolution or watch it happen... ;-)
Thanks guys! I get what you're saying!
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K J Rad said:
... learn how to nvflash and have fun.
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QFT.
nvflash is not hard to get working. With a properly set up nvflash procedure and all the info on these forums, the gTab is an unbrickable as it gets.
updates
I upgraded to the vegan 7, gingerbread, how do I go back to the original stock to get the latest updates from viewsonic when update arrives?
Second that
I absolutely agree to stick with the stock ROM and play for a while. The 3588 update is very stable and usable when you change to Classic Home. I have been using it till now, side loading apps and enjoying a lot without having to worry about custom ROMS and such.
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
Roxxas049 said:
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
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Yeah I think it all boils down to what the individual wants and is willing to risk..this forum makes it easy and there are plenty of options to try just always prepare for the unexpected and dealing with the experimentals expect anything to happen!!
Who am I kidding?! There is no way I will be able to wait for the next update. I already have a ton of files set up to load on my G tablet. I will be Modding within hours of my full charge! Guess its just my nature! Thanks guys!
Butch, thanks I will be reading everything to make sure I do it right Thanks for the advice everyone!
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Closing Word...
Everyone that has contributed to this thread--
I have tried to voice the side of conservatism and restraint and
good judgement in this thread. My intention was not to hurt any
feeliings or pick on anyone or rain on anyone's parade.
But if you read what's going on in these forums, there are a lot
of folks having problems. A lot of them are in over their heads and
some have been careless and others made honest mistakes.
I know for my part, I have been working hard to try to help folks
find the tools and make the decisions to get back on track. I'm sure
I have made mistakes and my opinions are mine!
But I speak for myself in saying that even though I am semi-retired
and have more time than most -- I can't keep up this pace. And I've
heard others of the helpers say the same thing.
I also call your attention to the "TwoTapsX" thread and the fact that
the moderators are aware of the problems people are having. Roebeet
has put together a splendid ROM that many think will be the next
generation of G-Tablet software. But because of the complexity of the
mods folks already have had in the tablets, and because of the human
factors listed above -- a lot of folks have messed up their tablets.
In My Humble Opinion: Somebody has got to say that in spite of all the
"opportunities" for mods in these forums -- folks have got to start
exercising more restraint, more good judgement, more common sense in
what they do.
The devs and the folks who are helpers here can't be expected to carry the
load of keeping everyone up and running with the current problem rates. I
sometimes don't agree with the moderators, but this time I see their point.
We users have a good thing here, but if it keeps being abused......
********
Having said that, I am done here. I wish you well.
Rev
/EOT
Just an update. Within an hour of booting up I had installed CWM and Vegan. It was an easy process and now I love my g tablet!
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Welcome! Enjoy the koolaid... ;-)
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Hi all, just a quick intro. I am new to the Verizon/ Droid scene. I am picking up the Droid Razr today. I am coming from Sprint with an Evo. I have to say I am nervous about losing sense, but I am excited for how fast the Razr is going to seem. I know that even overclocked, my phone would not be able to hang with the speed of the new phone.
I have read a bit, but just wanted to get a round about for rooting (easiet way), which ROM's seem to be the most popular, kernel options? I noticed as of right now there is no ICS, but are there solid builds being played with right now?
I am sure there is plenty I am missing, but just wanted to say hi.
I appologize about the questions, but very little free time to do a lot of reading thus far.
Thanks in advance
Welcome to XDA.
First off, the RAZR has a locked bootloader. You can't flash kernels, only ROMS. There's a fairly large movement out there to get Moto/VZW to unlock our bootloaders but no results yet.
As for rooting, there are plenty of resources out there for 1-click rooting. So rooting isn't an issue, just make sure you get the right root program for your version.
As for ROMS, DroidTheory has some pretty nice ROMS and most are very stable.
Most of this information is in the forum, you just have to search for it.
Hope this helps!
aktrazer said:
Welcome to XDA.
First off, the RAZR has a locked bootloader. You can't flash kernels, only ROMS. There's a fairly large movement out there to get Moto/VZW to unlock our bootloaders but no results yet.
As for rooting, there are plenty of resources out there for 1-click rooting. So rooting isn't an issue, just make sure you get the right root program for your version.
As for ROMS, DroidTheory has some pretty nice ROMS and most are very stable.
Most of this information is in the forum, you just have to search for it.
Hope this helps!
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Yes it does help, thanks. I will be doing plenty of reading for sure. Just a different beast really. Just strange seeing all the different developers on this side. Just because, like I said, came from sprint/HTC land.
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Well, welcome to the party. It's a whole new world. The RAZR is an incredible phone!
http://www.droidrzr dot com
That site has been extremely useful for me. I don't know if I am allowed to link so I made that odd thing there.
To demonstrate how useful it is I managed to get stuck on boot, search up a method for unbricking, enact the method, have the most terrified bathroom break of the new year and go back to stock all in under 24 minutes.
Absolutely none of that was an exaggeration.
So it took a bit. But at this time tomorrow I will finally be a Droid owner.
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koreanschoolkid said:
http://www.droidrzr dot com
That site has been extremely useful for me. I don't know if I am allowed to link so I made that odd thing there.
To demonstrate how useful it is I managed to get stuck on boot, search up a method for unbricking, enact the method, have the most terrified bathroom break of the new year and go back to stock all in under 24 minutes.
Absolutely none of that was an exaggeration.
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I will look up the site for sure. Thanks
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How did the thunderbolt get cyanogen,aosp and miui if HTC never released RIL? Who worked on it and how did they get it up and running?
and again, I know for a fact that the thunderbolt got MIUI (unofficially running), how did they do it and who worked on it (I know the developers but I never understood how and who got the RIL working)?
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/2148-rom...vicious-updated-11-9-2011-fixes-again-1033pm/
There is so much drama surrounding all of this and every time i think i will ask questions, i feel like ppl will come out of my screen and eat my head.
I know droid vicious had miui going, how was it done ?
and also how did all these ppl get s-off for the tbolt ? and why is it such an unachievable goal surrounded my loads of mystery beta testers that have sworn eternity of silence when it comes to our beautiful rezound
SO plz forgive my ignorance if I indirectly insulted someone's mother somehow.
First of all. This information is available to you...if you use the search button.
Slayher did RIL on CM7
I forget who got MIUI going
As for miui on the rezound? That dev you link too is well known for starting something, saying he has it, and dissapearing.
What I don't think you understand, is how hard it is to figuire out RIL for a phone. If memory serves me right slayher took a few months before he had it working. Even then it never worked perfect.
Wanna know why people get pissy? People like YOU who keep asking why RIL isn't done yet, and act like it is as easy as pushing a button frustrate people working on it.
We have an amazing set of devs on this phone, and possibly many more coming if s-off gets released. You will get your CM9 just be patient and respectful.
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nosympathy said:
First of all. This information is available to you...if you use the search button.
Slayher did RIL on CM7
I forget who got MIUI going
As for miui on the rezound? That dev you link too is well known for starting something, saying he has it, and dissapearing.
What I don't think you understand, is how hard it is to figuire out RIL for a phone. If memory serves me right slayher took a few months before he had it working. Even then it never worked perfect.
Wanna know why people get pissy? People like YOU who keep asking why RIL isn't done yet, and act like it is as easy as pushing a button frustrate people working on it.
We have an amazing set of devs on this phone, and possibly many more coming if s-off gets released. You will get your CM9 just be patient and respectful.
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To the OP,
I'm no "mystery" beta tester for s-off. I documented and gave proof of what's to come. I will not speak publicly in forums about the method purely out of a thing called respect.
andybones said:
+10000
To the OP,
I'm no "mystery" beta tester for s-off. I documented and gave proof of what's to come. I will not speak publicly in forums about the method purely out of a thing called respect.
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thanks for answering that Andy, I knew there was something I forgot to say haha.
It isn't that they are hiding in secrecy, to back andy up, it is that the guys who figured out s-off are testing 5-7 different devices. I say 5-7 because I read that they may have 7 devices it works on. Anyway, these devs have asked the beta testers to remain secretive on it, until it is released, and it won't be released until all devices are confirmed working. Personally since the same method works on all of them, I think this is a responsible thing todo. If they released it for say the sensation only, and we found it worked on the rezound, but was really risky and bricked phones, how much of a royal mess would they create.
I don't know about you, but if say AndyBones were to say something concerning the s-off method that he isn't supposed to and then we never got the s-off method for him breaking the s-off groups rules, are you not going to be really mad at him? I am as curious as the next guy to how they achieved s-off, but I want to actually get s-off so I am willing to wait. From what I can tell we can't be more than a few weeks away from s-off.
exactly what I expected
Dont understand the reason for the hostility. You guys make XDA such a friendly place.
I went over what I read again and again, and I did not complain once, either did I bash any developers or undermine their work.
My question simply stated was, did i manage to buy the most complicated phone to develop for in the market?
I compared it to the tbolt bec:
1- I owned it
2- they are both HTC LTE phones.
I didnt understand the mystery of the s-off thing, so i wanted some explanation. Thank you for taking the time out to explain it and crucify me in the process.
I do tons of research before asking someone to help me unlock or root or whatever. But from a user point of view, i wanted a developer , or an experienced user to shed some light on the complexity of the situation. there is very little information on how much more sophisticated the rezound is than the tbolt and why what worked flawlessly for the tbolt does not work for the rezound.
I still do not know what warranted such hostility.... but thx for taking the time out to respond anyway.
jmichaels1982 said:
Dont understand the reason for the hostility. You guys make XDA such a friendly place.
I went over what I read again and again, and I did not complain once, either did I bash any developers or undermine their work.
My question simply stated was, did i manage to buy the most complicated phone to develop for in the market?
I compared it to the tbolt bec:
1- I owned it
2- they are both HTC LTE phones.
I didnt understand the mystery of the s-off thing, so i wanted some explanation. Thank you for taking the time out to explain it and crucify me in the process.
I do tons of research before asking someone to help me unlock or root or whatever. But from a user point of view, i wanted a developer , or an experienced user to shed some light on the complexity of the situation. there is very little information on how much more sophisticated the rezound is than the tbolt and why what worked flawlessly for the tbolt does not work for the rezound.
I still do not know what warranted such hostility.... but thx for taking the time out to respond anyway.
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so, in your research, did you happen to look into the fact that the Rezound is kind of a first of its kind with the radios it has?
second, the Tbolt was s-off with what a month or so of being out? maybe two months? and was still months and months and months later until we had cyanogenmod.
In this community we had no s-off then finally got Dev Unlock, which our excellent devs had to learn how to code around. It was new to everyone to not have full access to the phone. Also, as stated, there were a few amazing devs that helped with the Tbolt getting both S-off and with RIL, that we do not have on the rezound.
Third, no one is working on CM7 because why would they when we are so close to have a ICS OTA that will give us kernel source to ICS kernels. My understanding is that we need this source to really get CM9.
I personally have been with Verizon since day 1 of the thunderbolt coming out, and been with the rezound about a month and a half after it came out. I think the biggest problem in this forum, that we didn't have with the thunderbolt, is that people are coming from other carriers or devices where they had s-off from day one, and maybe some form of cm7 from day one, because they didn't start day one with that phone.
Those of us that started day 1 with the thunderbolt, understood it was a brand new phone, brand new type of phone, and a first of its kind. LTE was new on any phone. The people on the thunderbolt forums at the time were very patient, you never saw complaining because s-off wasn't out yet, you never saw complaining that CM7 wasn't out yet. People were patient, because they understood that writing for this phone was new to everybody!
Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
Hi new guy. It's very simple. All of the information can be found on the forums, as well as using google. If you can't be bothered to do a simple search, or read through stuff, then don't root your phone.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
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And besides, noobs can have the phone. Just don't root your phone, and come crying in the forums when something goes wrong, cause you don't bother reading up beforehand.
SoulStripper66 said:
Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
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Sounds like it would have made more sense to get answers to those questions prior to your purchase.
Great phone, locked down.
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
Eun-Hjzjined said:
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
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Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
Most people here misunderstood me.
Asking nooby questions does not make one a noob.
I've been a computer programmer for years and I would like to contribute in the RAZR development, though I do not know how to start cause I was only mid-to-advanced user of mobile phones.
All I needed is someone to show me the way on this motorola. I'm not trying to make myself tiring to you though most people here should learn to show some respect and not snub people who ask.
As for "Searching" the forums, since the RAZR development is going slow, forum threads are also cruising at a low speed. So do not blame me for asking something that is not very clear to most "common" RAZR users and owners.
Friendly as hell.
Spectral1991 said:
Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
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Spectral thanks for joining this conversation. I've done a lot of research and already know that custom roms, governors and over/underclocking is possible.
Though it seems that device software differs from one phone to the other and I can't make up the differences. Maybe someone should start a thread regarding different Fastboots and to which devices they are installed to for example.
hi OP,
have u seen the Development forum? not the General forum.
there are tons of info to answer ur questions (sorry im not as capable) there. so u dont even need to search. just see the titles.
good luck.
i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
chrisphoenix7 said:
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )