Developers leaving or moving? - HTC EVO 3D

I'm sure this has been noticed and asked prior to this post. We all read the phenomenon in these threads and posts.
Question: Does it seem like some of the best Developers are leaving and moving their work to their own or core group based sites?
Why?
just concerned since I can count more than a few who've left, for whatever reason, in the last 6 months...
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Drama I guess. I'm kinda bummed that my old og Evo is more popular for development than my 3d. I thought most would move to the new phone.

It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.

oohaylima said:
It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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Did quick search it. Seems to me that either you are in or not. With our phone being difficult to get the basics functional, the practice of running off the guys that move development forward is slowing progress to a crawl.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.

oohaylima said:
Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Oohaylima, Haha. You said it, we ain't going anywhere....
It does totally suck.
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Its nice to see I am not the only one who is feeling the same way. The saddest thing is the only people truly hurt by this are the end users like us...

My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..

reaper24 said:
My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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You are right on the money sir!

Developers leaving or moving
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today

jslim38 said:
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
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y u bump 2 month old thread. Just like the Ancien Regime was inappropriate for its time, this thread is inappropriate for ours. Check the all new ics leak roms nao and u will see.
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Thats beside the point and FYI I'm fully aware of all ics releases old and new how many ics leaks can you get your hands on
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[Q] Why is So many devs moving away from XDA

As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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carycooke said:
As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
mohkg said:
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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bthomp21 said:
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.

What's really good here?

As of late, there have been numerous outbursts by forum members that have caused this forum to go haywire and this place isn't as welcoming as it should be. A great Dev has already raised his concerns for the hostility that has occurred and it is obvious OUR actions have been the root of this issue.
I know we're all excited about this new phone and the possibilities once S-Off is achieved but we really need to come together and combine our knowledge (some more than others obviously) and make this a great experience for all. There will be many new "faces" to android and HTC phones in general which do not know how things work but let's try to be patient and not snap back with snooty or disrespectful remarks.
At the end of the day, we are all here to improve our device ad increase in knowledge. It takes respect to earn respect so let's keep it cool between all of us (members, Devs, & Mods) so we may continue to be productive and learn.
Basically keep your effin mouth shut and fingers still unless u have something real to add. Any problems u have with someone keep it in pm's. One of the biggest reasons why this forum sucks and alot of ppl left and refuse to come back. Grow up and shut up
Sorry not feeling good i have the flu
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Don't Post A Hundred Questions Asking Why I Type In Capital Letters.
Thanks!
church101 said:
Basically keep your effin mouth shut and fingers still unless u have something real to add. Any problems u have with someone keep it in pm's. One of the biggest reasons why this forum sucks and alot of ppl left and refuse to come back. Grow up and shut up
Sorry not feeling good i have the flu
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dude you and your 230 posts and one thanks are telling people to shut up? xda does not suck. and every forum goes through this waiting for root. i know that because ive been through it. some of us have been here for a while helping others and modding htc and android apps and roms. having the flu is no excuse for your rudeness
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i wasn't on the forums all day, and i come back to this?!?! haha wtf happened
Why all the hostility guys? Let's take a step back and relax. I don't care if this is XDA, Android Forums, RootzWiki... they're all here for us to communicate about the devices and to help each other. I enjoy getting on the forums and helping to troubleshoot issues or to celebrate new modifications for our devices, but it makes it difficult when everyone is fighting each other.
Let's just be calm and patient. We're very close to having Rezound freedom. Once it's official, things will be much calmer and everyone will want to work together on this device!
jayochs said:
i wasn't on the forums all day, and i come back to this?!?! haha wtf happened
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See what happens when you aren't around to keep me calm lol
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Hahah damn my job! You guys think you're mad? Our main store f'ed us hard...sent us micro sim cards for rezounds, then promised to over night us regular ones, and then over nighter us micros. We lost five 4g phone sales today, 3 of which were mine (tbolt, and two rezounds) because we didn't have sim cards to activate their phones. The boss called the main store yelling and madethem Saturday over night us regular Sims even tho it cost them like 25 shipping haha we've had it...such an angry day....keep in mind we dont have 4g here so selling 4g phones is really damn hard. Gd it
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fernando sor said:
dude you and your 230 posts and one thanks are telling people to shut up? xda does not suck. and every forum goes through this waiting for root. i know that because ive been through it. some of us have been here for a while helping others and modding htc and android apps and roms. having the flu is no excuse for your rudeness
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Why does your post count have anything to do with how legitimate your opinion is? That seems very e-peenish. That guy could have over 1k posts in another forum? And don't tell me it has to do with respect, because clearly you have none either.
jayochs said:
Hahah damn my job! You guys think you're mad? Our main store f'ed us hard...sent us micro sim cards for rezounds, then promised to over night us regular ones, and then over nighter us micros. We lost five 4g phone sales today, 3 of which were mine (tbolt, and two rezounds) because we didn't have sim cards to activate their phones. The boss called the main store yelling and madethem Saturday over night us regular Sims even tho it cost them like 25 shipping haha we've had it...such an angry day....keep in mind we dont have 4g here so selling 4g phones is really damn hard. Gd it
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You got to remember man, you are dealing with VZW. Always exepect the worse.
mustbepbs said:
Why does your post count have anything to do with how legitimate your opinion is? That seems very e-peenish. That guy could have over 1k posts in another forum? And don't tell me it has to do with respect, because clearly you have none either.
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Go weep said the scythians to darius
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Doesn't matter what rep you have in real life, on another site, in your wives family. They have no relevance anywhere else. You don't step into any new community and act like an ass.
Well i guess i should get my post count up so i can act like a ****ing idiot .
I only comment when i have something to add not to grow my e-penis.
Keep thinking you have the best forums here maybe you'll wake up someday. Its ppl like u who drive everyone away. Enuff trolling for now i have better things to do in real life
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church101 said:
Well i guess i should get my post count up so i can act like a ****ing idiot .
I only comment when i have something to add not to grow my e-penis.
Keep thinking you have the best forums here maybe you'll wake up someday. Its ppl like u who drive everyone away. Enuff trolling for now i have better things to do in real life
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Nice. Your reputation is growing. Keep up the good work
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I'm just sticking up for xda. If you hate it then leave. I've done my part. If you Google my name with xda after it you will see my work has been posted to different forums by others.
If you have such great things to say I certainly have not seen it in this forum or anywhere else.
If you tell people to shut the f up you will probably be flamed. Plain and simple
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church101 said:
Basically keep your effin mouth shut and fingers still unless u have something real to add. Any problems u have with someone keep it in pm's. One of the biggest reasons why this forum sucks and alot of ppl left and refuse to come back. Grow up and shut up
Sorry not feeling good i have the flu
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Wow! If XDA sucks is because of comments like that. But XDA doesn't suck.
fernando sor said:
I'm just sticking up for xda. If you hate it then leave. I've done my part. If you Google my name with xda after it you will see my work has been posted to different forums by others.
If you have such great things to say I certainly have not seen it in this forum or anywhere else.
If you tell people to shut the f up you will probably be flamed. Plain and simple
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Some peoples kids! lol
Fern, you ready to do this! I get mine on Wednesday!
Scrosler did you get the rezound?
Sweet just saw your edit. Yeah im digging it! Great phone
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fernando sor said:
Scrosler did you get the rezound?
Sweet just saw your edit. Yeah im digging it! Great phone
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Yep, should be here on Wednesday! I am pretty amped. I got it for a penny on Amazon!
scrosler said:
Yep, should be here on Wednesday! I am pretty amped. I got it for a penny on Amazon!
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Lol im i only one who payed 250??
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HTC Amaze Vs HTC Sensation

Better camera/Design/ Faster prossesor bigger battery life
Or....
More Dev support earlier ICS, Smaller, thinner, no HW Problems?
..... Let The Discussion BEGIN
Not again... Please
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Lol I wanna see a educated organized discussion
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Veras1996 said:
Lol I wanna see a educated organized discussion
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Amaze
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Veras1996 said:
Lol I wanna see a educated organized discussion
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Then you are in the wrong place!
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there are multiple threads exactly like this this topic has been discussed to death.
glacierguy said:
Not again... Please
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seansk said:
there are multiple threads exactly like this this topic has been discussed to death.
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My thoughts exactly. This is what you get though with minimal development and lack of Moderator presence
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Considering you are in the Amaze section, Everyone is biased for the amaze.
The same thing would go for the sensation forums.
You'll never get a straight answer really, everyone is biased to a certain degree.
lock it up and use the search button
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Not again... Please
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So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
what happens when you pick the sensation because of early ics and then when you get it ics just comes out for the amaze? what happens: you feel dumb.
no HW problems? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. that phone felt like it was about to break everytime I took the battery cover off.
edit: do you think I should sell my amaze for the g1 because it has better development and no HW issues? hmm
I didn't see a thread like this in the first pages, so I was like w.e lemme post a new one so people could share their opinion, I'm new here so please have mercy on my soul
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F9zSlavik said:
So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
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Before calling me out buddy, I did contribute... See post #4.
Second, I will birch freely because most of us are getting sick of the same ass threads every week. Join Facebook if you want a social network. If you want answers, read the first rule of xda, watch the noob video, and do a search.
Instead of calling me out, call out the mods that made the rules. BTW, that lame ass "sense" pun has also run it's course... Nobody laughs at that any more. Get an original idea and get back to me
Edit: BTW, I was 1/3 ppl expressing same thoughts... Don't single me out
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Veras1996 said:
I didn't see a thread like this in the first pages, so I was like w.e lemme post a new one so people could share their opinion, I'm new here so please have mercy on my soul
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I tried but was baited by one of your supporters. I have nothing against u, was just saying these talks have came up before. Like u said, u searched the first few pages and took a shot. That's why I gave an answer in post 4.
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F9zSlavik said:
So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
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cents. /10char
F9zSlavik said:
So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
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what is the point of this discussion anyways? from the looks of it, doesn't seem like the op is opening this thread for any particular reason. He doesn't even specify if he is debating on whether to buy one or the other. seems like he got what he was looking for i guess a good flame war!!! lol
stratax said:
what happens when you pick the sensation because of early ics and then when you get it ics just comes out for the amaze? what happens: you feel dumb.
no HW problems? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. that phone felt like it was about to break everytime I took the battery cover off.
edit: do you think I should sell my amaze for the g1 because it has better development and no HW issues? hmm
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ive never had problems taking the back cover off my sensation, nor did i ever feel like it was going to break, its pretty damn sturdy, definitely more so than a sgs2...
however i was super afraid that one day i may drop my amaze and the screen would shatter to ****, after all the raised screen looks cool, but leaves it more exposed and vulnerable to cracking when dropped
and no i hate using cases with any of my phones, i just don't wanna add anymore bulk to an already big phone, and with the sensation i feel like if i accidentally drop it, it'll survive just fine, just like my old mt4g
and since the sensation has been out a lot longer than the amaze, it also means you can get it for a lot cheaper, having ics a little earlier is just a little plus lol
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ive never had problems taking the back cover off my sensation, nor did i ever feel like it was going to break, its pretty damn sturdy, definitely more so than a sgs2...
however i was super afraid that one day i may drop my amaze and the screen would shatter to ****, after all the raised screen looks cool, but leaves it more exposed and vulnerable to cracking when dropped
and no i hate using cases with any of my phones, i just don't wanna add anymore bulk to an already big phone, and with the sensation i feel like if i accidentally drop it, it'll survive just fine, just like my old mt4g
and since the sensation has been out a lot longer than the amaze, it also means you can get it for a lot cheaper, having ics a little earlier is just a little plus lol
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I guess it can go both ways. the screen on the amaze feels more vulnerable and the whole body of the sensation does.
stratax said:
I guess it can go both ways. the screen on the amaze feels more vulnerable and the whole body of the sensation does.
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true, each phone has its quirks, but i still think you can't go wrong with either phone imo
I have the Amaze 4G for me the design of the htc sensation is better than the amaze, internals of the amaze, and to me the sensation has better battery life(i'm using the extended anker battery). I got the amaze and haven't looked back though

Looking for a dev phone

As you all know I hit the game late, but even tho I think we will crack this baby in the near future I would still like to get a head start so if anyone has a unlocked 4G that they want to donate are make a deal let me know in pm... O have a loaded rom that I would like to put out bit o won't until o can test it and such... If there are any takers shoot me a message and ill get the ball rolling
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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pwned3 said:
Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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root will come, same thing happened with the Rezound, htcdev worked at first (unofficially) then months later it was back officially.
same will happen with this phone IMO, AND S-OFF is being worked on already, the Rez took 6 months before S-OFF had interest
Newts Rez bricked from what he told me
I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
Man newt.. they must be rough on you bud.
Hope it gets better, sad to hear people are being an asshole to a good developer. I'd be happy to see you on the OG Incredible again or the Nexus!
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I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
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i didn't see anything like that, ????? i think people are getting antsy waiting for something, i'd just ignore it.who cares what they say!
I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I've been doing this along time and I know about trolls trust me, but I want whoever has the problem to speak up but they prob wont
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Can we just agree to ignore it? Drama comes in many forms.
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I have never and will never rate a thread. Either it applies to you or it doesn't. If I have a problem with what's going on in the thread, I'll address it with the problem poster.
It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I hope someone comes through with a development phone for you... PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!! We certainly need all the help we can get! I
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newtoroot said:
It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I don't even own this phone, I'm still on a Dinc, however I just voted the thread 5 stars, does it impact the difference of you dev for this phone or getting a used phone to dev on, it probably won't or shouldn't. I also sent the email, about the bootloader, and I spoke with VZ exceutive office about the locked bootloader, is that going to make a difference to VZ on unlocking it, probably not, but I did it for the group cause, because I would like to get this phone.
Honestly, it's guys that have the time and talent like yourself and other dev's that help make these phones what they are, if you aren't interested in this device, that's your decision too but I think 99.9% of us don't have the knowledge you do on these phones, so we greatly value your work, and would like to see you and others help us out, while we try to do what we can to help out.
I don't know what happened to the REZ forum, but I've heard it was a bunch of BS Drama, that I've never seen on the Dinc forum, maybe your burnt from that experience, don't know, but I wouldn't let a thread vote sway your opinion on this group here.
thankfully newt has an Inc4 and will be up and going once root comes.
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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dbrits said:
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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I second that! :good:
blazingwolf said:
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I've been here for 4 years or so, and up until this thread never bothered to notice the threads had ratings. Now that I am aware of the ratings, I will continue to ignore them.
I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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you the man hasoon, GOOD LUCK

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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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Melodycd said:
I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
RLKirk said:
So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
Ranger093 said:
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
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So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.

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