Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
Thanks for the tip. I will definitely try this.
pdefazio said:
Just thought I'd share something that is really working for me in terms of battery life:
Create a smart action that disables cellular data whenever you are connected to a WiFi network.
I have been consistently getting 12+ hours of battery with moderate to heavy use when on only on WiFi.
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I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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bebeau25 said:
I have the same setup. Also have an action when I turn my screen off it disables wifi, background sync, cell data, and GPS. 12+ hrs here also.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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I was thinking about setting something like that up, but was worried about interference with calls & SMS & junk... Any problems to report?
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Calls and SMS you should be fine with because they do not require a data connection.
Szadzik said:
On mine data turns off the moment I connect to WiFi and that is the way it is supposed to work. Do you see a H, E, or whatever data icon next to the bars when you connect to WiFi? If not, it means data is already off. Why use the smart action then?
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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The only problem i had with this was with MMS messages. can't send or receive MMS.
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Why would you turn data off when screen is off??? Don't make sense doing that.
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How not?? Your screen is off and 3G/WiFi is killing your battery for no reason (unless you are downloading or background sync on for a reason), so why not have it off when screen is off and save battery. I still stick with JuiceDefender for this.
jms_uk said:
IIRC, although a WiFi data connection superceeds a cellular data connection when it is active, the 3G/4G radio is still alive even if it isn't involved in data transfers during that time..
I've certainly noticed improved battery life when on WiFi but explicitly turning the 3G/4G (mobile data) radio off.
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
Szadzik said:
1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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Interesting you say that, but I've noticed that as far as the what the phone's reporting via settings/toggle widgets etc.. "mobile data" is still active when WiFi is active (even if its status disappears from the notification bar and no actual mobile data activity is going on).. and, it can be explicitly turned off - leaving you still able to receive calls etc. Perhaps its not turning the
radio "off" per-se, but its definitely seems to be doing something over and above just letting WiFi take precidence for data transactions..
I've definitely noticed an improvement in battery life by doing this, over and above simply turning on and connecting to WiFi and NOT explicity turning mobile data off..
I also noticed that in some older versions/flavours of android (2.1, 2.2) the option to explicitly turn off "Mobile Data" wasn't present, relying instead (I assume) on what you've described above..
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1. Data radio is one and the same with your cellular calls radio, so unless you go into flight mode, it is going to be active.
2. If it is not sending or receiving data it is not using more energy than when data is disabled and cellular stays enabled.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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I don't believe this is correct. I believe the Wi-Fi chip is independent of the cellular antenna. That is what I have seen in every tear down of the phone.
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Where did I say WiFi radio and cellular radio are in one chip? I said DATA and CALLS chip is one and the same.
I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I thought that it would be better to bring back an old thread rather than start a new one.
I have a smart action as described in this thread that turns off cellular data whenever I am connected to wifi. However, the problem I have is that cellular data does not turn back on whenever I disconnect from wifi. I have to manually go into my settings and enable data. Has anyone else run into this?
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I sorta have the same(ish) problem. Data can take a little while to activate after I'm disconnected from WiFi. Every once in a while, I need to turn airplane mode on and off in order for data to turn blue. The fact that MMS messages are disabled with this Smart Action is a little disappointing too, but I don't receive enough while I'm home to be super frustrated by it...
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I think the problem is to do with Smart actions not returning your device back to the exact state it was in before the action was triggered.. Possibly also issues with other smart actions interfering with the state of other parameters..
I wonder why Moto didn't go with an 'exit action' approach used by apps like Tasker?
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Hello everybody!
Someone of you has noticed a poor WiFi reception on Hero?
I'm experiencing a poor WiFi reception in my house when Hero is connect to internet thru an access point.
What happen is that after WiFi connection has been established the phone tends to loose it and restart connection thru GSM/3G link.
That happen also if phone stay in the same place without moving around and also when phone is close to access point location.
Any idea about way to solve the problem?
Regards.
Alex
ale.agos said:
Hello everybody!
Someone of you has noticed a poor WiFi reception on Hero?
I'm experiencing a poor WiFi reception in my house when Hero is connect to internet thru an access point.
What happen is that after WiFi connection has been established the phone tends to loose it and restart connection thru GSM/3G link.
That happen also if phone stay in the same place without moving around and also when phone is close to access point location.
Any idea about way to solve the problem?
Regards.
Alex
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Just an upgrade on issue...
If I turn off data connection thru GSM/3G and switch on WiFi seem that WiFi connection is stable so maybe issue come when both data connection are enabled...
Anyway is annoying shout down each time data connection on GSM/3D and power on WiFi!
Regards.
i believe wifi goes idle when not in use. so it connect to 3g or edge. However there is an app if not various in the market already to help keep wifi always on..
Do a search for wifi and see for yourself.
minogue said:
i believe wifi goes idle when not in use. so it connect to 3g or edge. However there is an app if not various in the market already to help keep wifi always on..
Do a search for wifi and see for yourself.
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Thanks for suggestion!
At now I've solved turning off GSM/3G data connection when I'm at home anyway I guess that WiFi reception sometimes go away due to issue of the phone or maybe as way to save battery...
when that happen phone stay unconnected so I guess that should be better if I will check for apps that keep WiFi connection always working!
Alex
when the device goes into standby, the wifi is turned off to save battery poweer, and it will go back to 3G.
go into the wifi settings, press menu and select advanced.
select the timeout options
set to never and it will not turn off when in standby.
problem solved and you shouldn't have to turn off Mobile data, although with the settings widget on your homescreen turning mobile data off off each time is hardly going to ruin your life. in fact i tend to do this anyway, just cos i have spent too many years with windows mobile....
Here's an annoying bug I've found tho - on TMob UK
If I send an MMS from home, wifi on, it sits there, and doesn't send the message. Until I turn off wifi and 3G kicks in again.
Now I know for a fact that on my Magic, it was able to turn on 3g/HSPDA to send the message all by itself. Might have a look in thodse advanced settings tho to see if there is something I can do.. Not a biggie, just a bit of an annoyance.
Dayzz
Dayzee said:
Here's an annoying bug I've found tho - on TMob UK
If I send an MMS from home, wifi on, it sits there, and doesn't send the message. Until I turn off wifi and 3G kicks in again.
Now I know for a fact that on my Magic, it was able to turn on 3g/HSPDA to send the message all by itself. Might have a look in thodse advanced settings tho to see if there is something I can do.. Not a biggie, just a bit of an annoyance.
Dayzz
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I too, have been doing a search on Forums all over Google looking for a resolution to this.
I have noticed if Wi-Fi is enabled I am unable to send or receive MMS messages.
It is an annoyance having to turn Wi-Fi off each time also I am never to know if someone has tried to send a message in the first place.
Currently using T-Mobile G2 (rooted with MCR Rom 2.8) on T-Mobile UK
3 out of 4 times my phone fails to disconnect the mobile data network when I connect to WiFi. This is draining my battery unnecessarily.
What could be causing this unless I can fix it so it is automatic I will have to stop using wifi so it doesn't waste power keeping both connections going.
I am running a 2.3.6 rom.
Do you toggle the connections or just enable/disable WiFi? When you enable WiFi and connects, does the 3G icon (the two arrows) appear next to the WiFi icon?
my phone does both I have a program that shuts it completely off when I go to work then back on when i get home based on time.the rest of the time it is on even if I go away which then it just disconnects but wifi is still on.
I have not paid enough attention to when it happens but when it does I have both the wifi icon and the data arrows at the same time.
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I think you just answered your own question
What program are you using? Might a suggest a change for Juice Defender for example? or many others that do the same thing...
Hi,
I just got this white Skyrocket phone with 200MB data plan.
I heard that when connected to 4G, the phone uses data allowance from the data package, whereas if connected to WIFI (like at home), the data usage doesn't come off my AT&T data allowance.
So I want to disconnect from 4G and connect to my WIFI when I am at home.
At the store, the just told me to make sure that WIFI is showing as on on the top bar (or when you swipe that bar down). They said if WIFI is showing on, it means that the phone is using WIFI connection.
However, I see that at the same time when WIFI is showing on, the "4G" icon is also showing on and looking active! So- they are both looking active! That's why I wonder which connection is my Skyrocket actually using?
It looks like the data I use on WIFI also comes out of my data plan because the data packet is on.
So I had an idea, went to settings-wireless-mobile networks and unchecked "Use Data Packet".
When the above was unchecked, 4G icon disappeared and I could see only WIFI icon on the top bar, which would be good - however, the problem is that now I cannot connect to internet. (I turned the phone on and off- no change)
Does it mean that there is no way on Skyrocket to bypass AT&T data allowance and whether I use 4G or my own WIFI, there is no free internet access on this phone?
Or is there something else I can do to make sure I am connected just to my WIFI and data is free?
I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
This isnt the skyrocket forum.
wrong forum.. don't know about Skyrocket.. this is Galaxy S II SGH-i777
But you can always check by running some speedtest if you know how fast your wifi is.. or just go to settings and make sure it says connected.. or turn off your data when you're not using it.
Grab a program like traffic monitor. It'll show where your apps are getting data from and how much they're using.
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Sometimes apps like the market actually use your mobile data connection so both icons will show. From your phone dialer enter *3282# and hit call. It will send you a text letting you know how much data you've used.
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I have a new gear s on Verizon and have found the battery life very variable for lack of a better description. It appears the Verizon version does not display the same info in the moments bar as the Samsung manual shows or as I have seen on other carriers versions. I ask because my battery life in auto connect verses always off is a major difference even when connected to the phone via Bluetooth. It almost appears the 3G/4G is always on in the auto setting. worse case connected to the phone "note 4" via Bluetooth and network in auto I was getting 7 hours from 100% to 15% battery. If I turn the network off in the same situation I got over 40 hours and still had 25% battery left. Does anyone know if the Verizon version actually turns the network on/off in auto mode? Since they don't display this information in the moments bar you don't know if you are on, off or remotely connected. The 3G by the signal strength bar graph is always on whether you are on or in auto mode. Thanks for any help you might have.
I have the Verizon version also. When I'm by my phone Bluetooth automatically turns on and 3g turns off and vice versa. I had problems with it not automatically switching 3g off so I ran clean master from the Samsung store(made for Samsung phones) and ever since then it always works with auto connect
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kieso said:
I have the Verizon version also. When I'm by my phone Bluetooth automatically turns on and 3g turns off and vice versa. I had problems with it not automatically switching 3g off so I ran clean master from the Samsung store(made for Samsung phones) and ever since then it always works with auto connect
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Thank you for your response. I tried your suggestion but can see no immediate difference. If I may ask how do you know 3G/4G is turning on and off? On my watch the Bluetooth symbol in the moments bar will change either having the additional white triangles on each side when connected. The 3G/4G and signal strength bar graph is always there in the on or the auto. Only off will make them disappear. Thanks.
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Thank you for your response. I tried your suggestion but can see no immediate difference. If I may ask how do you know 3G/4G is turning on and off? On my watch the Bluetooth symbol in the moments bar will change either having the additional white triangles on each side when connected. The 3G/4G and signal strength bar graph is always there in the on or the auto. Only off will make them disappear. Thanks.
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The 3g disappears and turns off the cell radio then connects to my phone Bluetooth. Double check your settings under connections, then mobile networks, make sure gear network is set to auto switch
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Thank you once again for the information. I pretty sure mine is not working as it should. I have the 3G and signal strength bar graph if the mobile network is on or in auto phone connected Bluetooth and inches away. You need something to know if its on or off as you stated 3G there or off. The weird thing is with the network in auto and Bluetooth connected I put the phone in airplane mode then tried making a call from the watch. It would not do it. The 3G was there telling me the network is on but not making phone calls. I tried sending a text to the watch phone number with the network off and as expected it didn't come through even connected to the phone via Bluetooth. If the network is in auto and connected to phone via Bluetooth the text to watch phone number will come through. I'm guessing to get calls or texts to the watch phone number the network must be on. I'm curious if yours behaves as mine does. I have had the note 4 since January and its getting pretty cluttered with stuff plus add the lollypop update to the mix. I have tried a hard rest on the watch and think I'm going to do the same to the phone to clean house and try from scratch. Thanks again.
I've noticed if I'm making a Wi-Fi call and walk away from the router, the call drops when it should seamlessly switch to 4G
I have a strong 4G signal outside the house, so it makes no sense, has anyone else noticed this?
Have you switched off Mobile Data Always Active in developer settings. That may make a difference.
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Have you switched off Mobile Data Always Active in developer settings. That may make a difference.
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Nope, that's still enabled.
I've noticed this as well. There's been several times that if I leave my wifi with wifi calling enabled to mobile data, I cannot make or receive phone calls until I turn on airplane mode and reset the connections. Super frustrating
opz187 said:
I've noticed this as well. There's been several times that if I leave my wifi with wifi calling enabled to mobile data, I cannot make or receive phone calls until I turn on airplane mode and reset the connections. Super frustrating
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Mine just cuts off and can call back again so not quite the same.
Same here, the radio on this phone is a disaster for many of us.