Why couldn't they release Alphas? I'd be fine with spotty wi-fi and no video.
And now everything is apparently done including video yet still no release? GUYS, stop being such perfectionists, release alphas/betas. WHATEVER. Just get something out so we won't have to use a phone OS on our tablets anymore. PLEASE.
No-one cares about the TP's garbage camera and microphone.
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Then why don't you develop it yourself.
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I'm pretty sure i will get flammed for this, and that is ok.... Post like these are why XDA had become what it is now.... smh, as far as ICS, I agree with those who have said this before, it will come when it is ready.
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Then why don't you develop it yourself.
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I don't have the skills.
But I promise if I did have the skills I sure as hell wouldn't sit on my ass with a perfectly capable ROM when thousands of people are clamoring for it like rabid animals.
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I'm pretty sure i will get flammed for this, and that is ok.... Post like these are why XDA had become what it is now.... smh, as far as ICS, I agree with those who have said this before, it will come when it is ready.
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Oh please, the ROM has been ready for weeks now.
I'm sure all of us here have flashed ROMs on our phones/tablets that were spotty and were perfectly fine with them because we knew they were just Alphas/Betas and even in that state they were far better than what we had before.
Patience, young padawan. Good things come to those who wait.
Lets see here we get to install Android on our devices for free and the ROMs are all developed by volunteers. Be grateful that we have a stable Gingerbread port, we will get ICS when its ready. If you want to speed things up get involved with the port or donate towards it.
Can't believe I am even going to enter this thread and reply - but I'd rather wait till they are happy with it and how it will perform than to get some half-cocked ROM released just to shut people up.
If they released it as it is now... people would just start complaining about what they already know doesn't work... EXAMPLE: how many times do people bring up WIFI and sound distortion in regards to the current ROMs?! Everyone knows it's a problem, yet the posts/threads just keep coming.
Let them polish it and enjoy what you have now. It WILL come, but you will appreciate it a lot I promise you when it's released if they take the time to internally test it and feel confident they have done all they can before the first release is placed in user's hands. Another thread about this really isn't going to change anything.
Personally I'd rather the mods just remove these threads that pop up or consolidate them somewhere - so people can easily find the threads that will help them to solve their problems.
Not trying to bait you - I promise - and you are entitled to your opinion, but relax man - it's all going to be ok - I promise! :-D
I too am anxious to get ICS on my touchpad and I do agree that I would have liked to see a beta or an alpha to test it out, but I don't think this is the way to go about asking for it...although I dont know that there is a good way to ask for it, in any case I get where your coming from
Well there is the PreludeDrew Evervolv ICS ROM that just released, you can try that out if your that impatient...
For me, I've tweaked CM7 so much that it doesn't look or feel the same anymore. So basicly i've 'tweaked' it to my taste, and i'm lovin it!
I think the reason why they won't release an alpha or beta, is that people are still trying or getting into CM7. And for a person who is comfortable with CM7, why upgrade to a more buggier OS and nothing works?
EndlessMike, no one owes you a thing. You didn't buy your touchpad from them, aren't paying them to develop or use roms, they didn't promise you a release and didn't imply that you'll get anything...ever.
If you want ICS, buy a Xoom. Better yet, take the time out to learn how to code and develop roms and do it yourself instead of wasting your life away hoping someone will spoon-feed you. Stop complaining.
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No-one cares about the TP's garbage camera and microphone.
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Speak for yourself... I would like the camera and mic working so I dont have to carry a laptop on business trips just to skype w/ my family.
Thanks to the devs for all their hard work, I'm patiently waiting, and will continue to do so until its released.
I'm getting tired of reading whiney bull**** all ****ing day.
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If you think this wait for a free product is bad, try waiting for Samsung, HTC, Motorola etc to release their ICS update for products people PAID for. The lucky ones are going to have to wait months. The unlucky ones don't even get an update at all.
Considering that that the Touchpad was never even meant to be an Android device in the first place and when most of us bought it, Android for the Touchpad didn't even exist, I'm quite happy with what we currently have and what we will be getting whenever we get it. It's far more than I ever expected and I very much am thankful to the developers for it.
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Why couldn't they release Alphas? I'd be fine with spotty wi-fi and no video.
And now everything is apparently done including video yet still no release? GUYS, stop being such perfectionists, release alphas/betas. WHATEVER. Just get something out so we won't have to use a phone OS on our tablets anymore. PLEASE.
No-one cares about the TP's garbage camera and microphone.
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I can't imagine anything more tedious for a Developer than a perfect ROM, especially when the community requests a taste and later demands perfection.
dis thread is ignant, yo.
You guys are late. I stopped checking for it 2 months ago. It'll come out when it comes out.
It saddens and sickens me to see such threads being made. The ungratefulness being shown to the developers is just sickening; and for some reason, it is worse on this forum than on others.
Rather than be excited and respectful, this entire community is degenerating into a group of whiny, self absorbed group who think that the devs live to serv them, and should bow to their whim.
What i wouldn't give to be able to close this trash myself..
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It saddens and sickens me to see such threads being made. The ungratefulness being shown to the developers is just sickening; and for some reason, it is worse on this forum than on others.
Rather than be excited and respectful, this entire community is degenerating into a group of whiny, self absorbed group who think that the devs live to serv them, and should bow to their whim.
What i wouldn't give to be able to close this trash myself..
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Or maybe the developers can give the community what they want instead of holding back the ROM for inane reasons?
I'm grateful for what they're doing and it's awesome that my $100 is about to get even better with a bit more patience; but I'm not going to pretend for a second I like what's going on here.
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Or maybe the developers can give the community what they want instead of holding back the ROM for inane reasons?
I'm grateful for what they're doing and it's awesome that my $100 is about to get even better with a bit more patience; but I'm not going to pretend for a second I like what's going on here.
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Why don't you go outside and find something better to do other than flashing roms that barely work?
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Well.... It has happened again... I get an OTA and the ish talking starts bout me holding back the "community"... So again I'm going to release the file I have... This time will be a little different though. I stated VERY clearly in the radio thread what I was doing and the fact that this OTA WILL NOT FLASH nor will anyone know wtf to do with it.... No one listened and instead ran their necks so F it.... Once you realize that there are several hundred .p patch files that will need to be applied to individual files, in succession, through 5 builds, then figuring out what kind of patches they are to begin with, then figuring out you need a specific binary to apply them, one you cant get, your on the right track.... Good luck with that... I'm sorry about this but honestly I'm tired of working on a device I don't even use, for days and days, with pneumonia mind you, for people to talk ish and complain about what I am doing. So I'm gonna leave it in the hands of the "well wishers" and let them take care of this for you guys... To those that havent *****ed, I apologize, but I'm pretty fed up with the amount of ignorance around here... So anyways, heres your OTA... Have fun with it and I will stop back by with an "I told you so" every now and then.... CR
Froyo Espresso OTA
lol im glad i have an epic. i just wanted to see what you were talking about in your twitter feed
People are still saying you're holding back from the community? Yeah, they're definitely ignorant. :/ I wasn't exactly around when this stuff was going on before, but I was lurking and even then it was pretty dumb.
Sorry that it has to happen this way, CR! Thank you for the work you've contributed thus far and all the great gifts you come bearing when you stop by.(Like this latest radio).
Well thanks to everyone who whines and *****es... a true dev comes along to help and you find a way to make him leave haha.. thanks CR for the work and trying mate. Good thing I'm getting new G2 on Tuesday
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This is really sad... damn ungrateful people...
Thanks for everything CR
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Well, I managed to update to this using some secret sauce, but I have now permanently lost root and S-OFF. Exploid and Rage Against the Cage-based exploits DO NOT WORK on this version of the kernel (2.6.32.29) included in this OTA.
On the plus side it does have USB/Wifi tethering built-in, so my need for root has dramatically decreased.
Just stick with whatever you have now until a new exploit comes out for >= 2.6.32.29, but don't hold your breath since it's unlikely ANY time soon.
:/ it is sad....at least you gave us the radio! And actually tried to patch the files! Thanks for all the work....hope you come back!
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There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
Wow CR this sux that people's ignorance has to stop us from getting froyo finally with flash possibilities. This sux...
Thanks Chief for all the hard work. I thought your last update was the best rom and didn't have any problems. I guess its time to upgrade.
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I am pretty sure I know who it was... If you read through the RADIO thread there are 2 or 3 that were practically begging for the files he had.
I wont call them out myself being that I DONT FOR SURE KNOW. but if you read through there you could possibly figure it out. I am not encouraging anything, but I am sure a few people around here know of a few ways that will have their ISP shut them down for a day or so....
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There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
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you took the words right out my mouth
Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Most of the people who wanted to see this zip released are not at all interested in actually running this rom. In fact, the more interesting bits are the sdio and tiwlan files that we might be able to fix the still-borked wifi in CM7.
Chiefz: nobody intended to give you ****, but there is absolute truth in the saying that many hands make light work. The more people looking at this, the more likely it is that it can be put to good use. The folks in #mytouchslide will be putting lots of eyes on this to see what outstanding issues we might be able to fix.
Thank you for releasing this and I'm sorry if you felt people were hassling you.
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Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
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Thanks for the great help mate and as to CR if you read this hopefully you can understand that there is more good apples than the bad ones mate. Thanks either way with the final choice you make!
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Chiefz, don't listen to those noobs. You do a great job here and we all appreciate you as a hard working person that always brings good stuff to the forum and as a very good friend no matter what you do.
Thanks for all
Damn whiny 12 year olds.. you can't escape their wrath!!
2.2.1 Rooted OTA..u will be missed.
i personally think this was a good move to shut the people up that dont know what they are doing (like myself, (-) the talking crap part). but now that you have made your point chiefz, you should really continue your work. you would have the praise of the community!
No this was not a good move. It has left so many of without any hope of ever making our phones just that much cooler, that much better...
I am pissed off to the point I am shopping for a new phone today
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that sucks, but i don't blame you. thanks for everything, mang.
I thought maybe it was just the Vibrant section.. but the other phones I look over seem pretty slow also.
regarding the Vibrant, what gives? Why so slow on here?
The easy answer is people have moved on to new phones (and a lot have), but there are way too many Vibrants out there for XDA to be THIS slow. Are there no more questions that need to be answered? Everyone working on the GB Source?
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I thought maybe it was just the Vibrant section.. but the other phones I look over seem pretty slow also.
regarding the Vibrant, what gives? Why so slow on here?
The easy answer is people have moved on to new phones (and a lot have), but there are way too many Vibrants out there for XDA to be THIS slow. Are there no more questions that need to be answered? Everyone working on the GB Source?
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I don't think that there are no more questions to be answered, it's just that 99% of them already have been if people would be smart enough to search. If you look at development threads, pretty much all of them have the same questions in it and when a new thread is posted, the questions in that thread are the ones that have been previously answered.
Then there are those idiots that complain about a rom being horribly laggy (reflash fix) or having horrible battery life while the rom has only been out for less than a day.
I don't want to see dev's leaving but I can certainly see why they would be going away, xda is full of idiots and trolls.
yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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You can sugar coat crap all you want, in the end it's still crap
I, myself, have been hanging at edt HQ. Much nicer over there.
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Dan_Brutal said:
I, myself, have been hanging at edt HQ. Much nicer over there.
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Yup, I think the previous people said it best. At this point, the Devs et al have really got this phone running sooo good there are not alot of issues to cry about. That, and the pending new phones that are beginning to get released, as well as, the tablets got people less focused on the Vibrant and some of the other phones that are 10 months old.
I got a color nook for my daughter and it is a blast to flash and mod, So alot of my flashing urge is satisfied with that.
I think alot of us are just waiting until June when the new S2 comes out, Then there will be this HUGE swell of interest again. But until that time, the vibrant and Galaxy phones are such a great phone to have it really is hard to complain.
I do agree alot of the kids/trolls have been griping more as of late, but I think that is because we have all been more silent. All in All, Love this Forum and all the people who contribute to it.
Everyones on the shortbus going on a field trip
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Yup, I think the previous people said it best. At this point, the Devs et al have really got this phone running sooo good there are not alot of issues to cry about. That, and the pending new phones that are beginning to get released, as well as, the tablets got people less focused on the Vibrant and some of the other phones that are 10 months old.
I got a color nook for my daughter and it is a blast to flash and mod, So alot of my flashing urge is satisfied with that.
I think alot of us are just waiting until June when the new S2 comes out, Then there will be this HUGE swell of interest again. But until that time, the vibrant and Galaxy phones are such a great phone to have it really is hard to complain.
I do agree alot of the kids/trolls have been griping more as of late, but I think that is because we have all been more silent. All in All, Love this Forum and all the people who contribute to it.
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I've come dangerously close multiple times on picking up a Nook Color, is it a viable tablet on CM7?
I've been splitting my time between here and Team Whiskey forums....i still love XDA but trolls aren't allowed in T.W. house ...i think when we get our TW ROM devs come back then we'll see some goodness back in the Vibrant forums...until then we're getting over-ran with ROM ports and themes.
I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
All of us could spend time navigating each of their site, and creating logins for each one... but it's just so nice to have EVERYTHING in one space.
And those who do branch off, always seem to come back anyway.
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I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
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I agree, but it seems to be a necessity these days. Also, it sucks having to post two topics xD
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s15274n said:
I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
All of us could spend time navigating each of their site, and creating logins for each one... but it's just so nice to have EVERYTHING in one space.
And those who do branch off, always seem to come back anyway.
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True, but i think the teams go to their own homes b/c of the a**ho*es that do nothing but talk crap about their work without giving thanks...devs at are at their own forums can moderate can control the content themselves as they see fit....when this "Recognized Developer" thing (that XDA Admins have been working on) starts, then devs can control their releasing threads and keep trolling and unnecessary complaining to a minimum...s15 is right, everything should be all in one place...this is XDA, where all smartphone knowledge and MODs originate and come together
Just my opinion...
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I agree, but it seems to be a necessity these days. Also, it sucks having to post two topics xD
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I think everyone knows I respect your work a LOT. I know whats going on around XDA, but not so much behind the scenes. Can you help explain why it seems like a necessity?
Maybe if I understood that part of it better.
Is it really boiling down to spam in the threads/dumb comments?
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I think everyone knows I respect your work a LOT. I know whats going on around XDA, but not so much behind the scenes. Can you help explain why it seems like a necessity?
Maybe if I understood that part of it better.
Is it really boiling down to spam in the threads/dumb comments?
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It really is frustrating a lot.
Most of the time, haters will refuse to register on your site so that's automatically a filter on it's own. Next you have complete power to do anything & everything with your site.
I really wish everyone could stay on XDA but it seems like the amount of dumb we get is increasing daily and it's like there's no way out of it.
Also, people tend to think you're a lot more "professional" if you have a site.
^ you da man. Makes sense, completely understand coming from your perspective.
The reason for the increase in "undesirables" is just in the numbers. The more android catches on the more total people are going to visit xda. That's includes all types. From the seasoned developer looking to learn about android to the person that knows nothing but wants to learn to the person that, no matter what, will not search out even the simplest answer to the out and out troll.
Its just that odds are we hear the most from the latter two as the first two are more apt to search for their answer and ask questions when they truly can't find the answer.
I'm no genius with this stuff but I will at least take the time to learn what the stuff I'm doing to my phone is and how to undo it or fix it if needed. There are more and more people that don't our won't.
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s15274n said:
I've come dangerously close multiple times on picking up a Nook Color, is it a viable tablet on CM7?
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I have enjoyed playing with mine. Had it about 2 weeks now, absolutely no complaints, totally worth the money. Its impossible to brick and CM7 is running great.
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s15274n said:
yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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here is a question to if you don't mind
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039152
a response awaits.
=)
ya I agree its been quiet here for the last few weeks. I running bi-winning and haven't found the need to switch. I'm thinking about picking up a Hd2 just to tinker with it. I'm having flash withdraws also my wife won't let me play with her Mytouch4g.
Now that HTC made their announcement a couple of weeks ago, we have an actual ETA on the unlocked bootloader. That said, as we all know, it'll be a month or two before this goes into effect. I know that many people (myself included) jumped to the EVO 3D because of the spectacular dev support that the 4G received, hoping that the 3D would get similar support on even better hardware. I think there were many people disappointed in HTC regarding the bootloader and how long it took them to unlock it (and awesomely impressed with dev temp-root workarounds!), and I certainly wouldn't blame developers for jumping ship to another device due to impatience with HTC. Of course, if devs go, there will the people follow.
My question to the devs is that now that we're reaching the deadline of the 30 day exchange policy and with rumors of the Galaxy 2 II on the horizon, are you going to be sticking with the EVO3D or returning it to develop for another phone?
I ask not to call anyone out, but out of sheer curiosity and self-interest. As awesome as this phone is, I want to go with the phone that is going to get the most development, and I know I'm not alone in that regard.
Thanks for your time!
Personally I don't care. But you're going get flamed by some "Obese and Ugly" Super Nerd that has some kind of Napolean Complex and feels the need to tell you that this post is in the wrong section. He thinks he's doing XDA and the "interwebz" a service and also speculates daily that he's important on some grand level.
All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
I've jumped ship. I'll never purchase another HTC phone, they can shove them up their ass, lock their bootloaders and masterbate on the code as it prints out from their ****** iMac and MacBook Pro's.
..sigh.
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All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
..sigh.
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I would agree with this statement.
kthejoker20 said:
I would agree with this statement.
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Sad but true .. all I want is to be able to tether
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
No one, just a bunch of morons talking out there ass
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
vinscuzzy said:
He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
Really guys, is too soon to jump out the ship, we gotta be patience, I believe on the EVO3D dev team!
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I don't think any devs have jumped ship, theirs just no reason to develop anything right now. The only thing we have right now is temp root and that has been developed into something far beyond what it started off as.And not to forget the all the skins, unrooted rosie mods, overclocking and everyone behind the scenes working on trying to crack the bootloader with the little there is to work with. For now the 3D is a great example of the saying- when life throws you lemons... And when one of the outstanding Devs here squeezes the juice out of the locked bootloader we will have us one fine lemonade stand.
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
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Sorry, fixed the link. I was trying to do it from my phone, and it defaulted to mobile twitter.
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kthejoker20 said:
I would agree with this statement.
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I wouldn't at all (even though we really aren't have a "Dev" discussion right now), I hardly see how anyone can say "HE" killed dev for our device. I don't think the dev is dead at all, hell, he tried to keep all the BS and stupid questions out of the Dev section. I personally think that the fact there has been a min post count rule implemented across the dev forums speaks volumes to and shows that people do need to read and respect the a) section and b) OP when posting in a thread, well.... lets say posting HTC rants in a thread dedicated to our temp root solution.
"He" may have been a bit slow to reopen the thread (in our section) that he was basically forced to police because of morons that can't read or comprehend just what a dev thread is for, but that hardly constitutes making the "Dev being dead, over and out". Said morons and illiterates actually drove the dev's to IRC, away from the public forum where they started and hoped to collect ideas and garner more support from the masses on the development work.
I would like to hear a dev say "he" killed their work on this device... sounds like crazy talk to me from some impatient users.
I won't be jumping ship (speaking as veteran flash addict and avid Dev supporter), we'll have our perm root one way or another. I am just surprised to see people acting so butt hurt over what is going on, a month out of the gate.
Now that, is some sad shhhht to sigh about...
Oh, and... IBTL
I hope allot of the 4g devs do make a appearance, I personally think most of them are the best there is. I believe we picked up a bunch of hero guys too, there's a whole lot of exceptional talent in that group too. I think once we get full root, theres going to be some real awesume stuff pop up overnight in this forum,
I do have to say the ones that are here now are going a great job and putting out a lot of badass stuff considering all most of them have to work with is teamwin's temp root.
/.....
So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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I heard deck, myn, and virus are aboard. I know fresh is. I am sure many other are. I also believe the dev responsible for the kernal for cm7 is aboard to. What is his name? Man bugging me now....
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So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
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I think that's pretty much where I'm at, just sitting tight. I found myself in the unfortunate spot of getting a 3D with a touchscreen issue, and I'm between doing a 30 day return or exchange. I think more than likely I'll end up keeping it (the thing is a beast), and it's good to know that there's other people sticking around
I think we should all jump ship and give up, after all that's why we're here, at xda developers. Also, this piece of junk unmatched phone had been out for a crazy long 37 days, what with no root... WTF. And that damn mod... Keeping morons with big mouths out of dev threads, what a douche, we should just let everyone say and do what they want in here. That way we could read more. I hope a mod closes this thread and bans the OP for a month, for fun (because this awesome development is... A question). Member since 08 ... Get some email addresses or follow them on Twitter, or pm them, or find them in webchat, that's how you talk to a dev.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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Good point. I did generalize by saying "devs" but I definitely meant both. ROMs are one of the best reasons to root. Looking forward to getting some CM, kushdeck, and MIUI on this bad boy, not to mention the host of awesome Sense developers like Myn, Virus, and Ava. From most responses, it seems like we don't have too much to worry about. As far as CM and MIUI are concerned, if demand is high enough, there'll either be an official release or at the very least a port, since they're community projects.
I was off to a great start on XDA, helped a lot of people, made a mod or two and gathered a decent number of thanks.
Lately though, I've been frustrated and it's showing in my posts.
I'm frustrated because after probably more than 150$ in donations to different people, it seems that developers left one right after the other and that money I gave to encourage development is now used to develop for another phone.
I understand there's no obligation for developers to stick to a phone for ever, everyone wants to play with the new hardware and being a hardware junkie myself, I really can't blame anyone for that.
I gave to Scott because I ran his ROM for quite awhile and it was really stable. Probably because it is stock with the fat trimmed but that met my needs. Later on I hear about all this talk going on about how he's not a real developer and he left.
Then I gave money to bored at least twice, once for his S4 Rom, and once again to help him get a new laptop. Shortly after he vanished for personal reasons. It's probably something big, probably not his fault, bad things happen and sometimes our priorities changes but it seemed that once again I encouraged someone who had to go away.
Lastly, I donated twice to Joel for his S4 ROM and to encourage him to continue developing and we now know what is happening. He doesn't seem to have the time and with the Roms coming out for the GNex and the One X, if I was a developer, I would be all over the new hardware as well.
So those events made me frustrated and I think I managed to p!ss off quite a few people so I'm sorry for that. I tarnished my own reputation because instead of accepting all that, I wanted something for my donations and I got nothing.
I decided to change the way I see things and consider my donations as a contribution to work that was done in the past. I used CleanRom so I donated for that, I used S4 a lot and Bored helped me port his blue theme so that it works with 3.6 Roms, and I donated for that. I didn't really run Joel's ROM a lot because the lack of bluetooth and screen rotation lag was too much for me but still, he put some good stuff together and it was good while it lasted.
So once again, I apologize for anyone I offended or rubbed the wrong way. Donating only to see people vanish got the best of me and I'm paying for it now because of my latest posts.
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I was off to a great start on XDA, helped a lot of people, made a mod or two and gathered a decent number of thanks.
Lately though, I've been frustrated and it's showing in my posts.
I'm frustrated because after probably more than 150$ in donations to different people, it seems that developers left one right after the other and that money I gave to encourage development is now used to develop for another phone.
I understand there's no obligation for developers to stick to a phone for ever, everyone wants to play with the new hardware and being a hardware junkie myself, I really can't blame anyone for that.
I gave to Scott because I ran his ROM for quite awhile and it was really stable. Probably because it is stock with the fat trimmed but that met my needs. Later on I hear about all this talk going on about how he's not a real developer and he left.
Then I gave money to bored at least twice, once for his S4 Rom, and once again to help him get a new laptop. Shortly after he vanished for personal reasons. It's probably something big, probably not his fault, bad things happen and sometimes our priorities changes but it seemed that once again I encouraged someone who had to go away.
Lastly, I donated twice to Joel for his S4 ROM and to encourage him to continue developing and we now know what is happening. He doesn't seem to have the time and with the Roms coming out for the GNex and the One X, if I was a developer, I would be all over the new hardware as well.
So those events made me frustrated and I think I managed to p!ss off quite a few people so I'm sorry for that. I tarnished my own reputation because instead of accepting all that, I wanted something for my donations and I got nothing.
I decided to change the way I see things and consider my donations as a contribution to work that was done in the past. I used CleanRom so I donated for that, I used S4 a lot and Bored helped me port his blue theme so that it works with 3.6 Roms, and I donated for that. I didn't really run Joel's ROM a lot because the lack of bluetooth and screen rotation lag was too much for me but still, he put some good stuff together and it was good while it lasted.
So once again, I apologize for anyone I offended or rubbed the wrong way. Donating only to see people vanish got the best of me and I'm paying for it now because of my latest posts.
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no hard feelings bro. id feel pretty pissed too if i donated money and it didnt lead to anything. this community, is broken right now. we have about three devs for cdma and 1 gsm left. i want to stay but it seems i cant! im pretty sure im leaving to get a GSM gnex and go to tmobile. its just better for me right now. believe me, THIS IS THE INTERNET!!!! if anyone gets offended, they are p*ssies
I started to think of the fact that the money I donated would have bought me almost a third of a One X at full retail price but developers do release ROMs before getting donations so I'm trying to see it as contribution done in the past, not in the future.
hey man, i'm just as upset as you with the developers leaving. our community really has been shot to hell, and i don't really see it recovering very well, and that sucks. we started off as a small, close, tight-knit community from like weeks before launch date. many of us were familiar faces from the Inc forum, so we were enjoying ourselves. once we got bigger, i guess everything began to get on peoples' nerves: lack of AOSP, RIL, kernel source, ICS not being released, etc etc.
now, we have less than a handful of developers left, as they've all left for the nexus.
hang in there, the source/ update drought cant last forever. If you can make it through the wait, it's inevitable that the combination of the hardware + the price of this phone will bring talent. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of those folks you mention above make their way back here again. Being stuck on 2 year old software isn't really exciting for many devs, but it's where we're at for the time being.
Nice to see that you have a new outlook dude
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I like where this thread is going and I agree with the sentiments behind it, hopefully no one will come in here and turn this into a troll-fest.
Personally, I think this is a natural (though unpleasant) thing that's going on. In the forums for my last device, this exact same thing happened - as frustration grew over manufacturer/carrier delays for the next big/promised release and source code, things got bad in the community. It got ugly. Then the release finally came and source finally came and some really good things happened, including CM9. I haven't been back there in a long time so I have no idea what it's like now, but that's the way I left it. I'm hoping once we have source that good things will happen. I believe we'll see some new faces and maybe some old ones.
The one thing that complicates matters in the Rezound forums is the issue of donations (in my opinion). In my old device's forums, a lot of the devs (maybe most) refused to take donations, or at least discouraged donations, and actually it seemed the most talented devs were the ones most likely to discourage/least likely to accept donations. Here, a lot of the devs (most? all?) accept and even encourage donations, in some cases outright asking for them. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, I've donated to at least 3 Rezound devs myself, but there are risks that come along with accepting/encouraging donations. The people who donate then expect certain things, expectations are higher, and if you don't deliver or if you leave before delivering, you have to expect some people are going to take it hard. I'm not saying I agree with that, it's just human nature. There is a fine line between donating to encourage someone and outright paying them for an expected outcome.
I don't think I ever posted anything negative towards any dev, and I've never taken sides in the current "war" that's going on. I must admit there is one thing I really don't get in all this, one thing I really would like to post and ask about because I'm honestly confused by it, but I know 100% it would turn into a troll feeding frenzy, so I'm just going to keep it to myself and hope for better days ahead.
Personally I love this phone (aside from battery life) and think it's still better than a lot of devices coming out now. I'd love to get more into the dev game myself if I could just. find. the. frickin. time...
That was long-winded, I apologize...
I thank you all make good points and I feel the same way also and I'm so tired of all the childish stuff that just keeps going on iv been with most these dev's sense(pun intened) the inc and they all are very talented but really don't blame them for leaving whether it be personal or not.on that note thank you to all the modders themers and devs and anyone that's a helper and not a troll
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I don't blame people for wanting to go develop for a newer hardware platform, I would do the same and if I could afford it right now, I would buy a GNEX and let Google feed be with updates.
We still love you.
The development section hasn't had anything good in at least a month.
I don't see the rage about the new S3, or Nexus (plus thought nexus was blocked for US sales??). I'm really enjoying the Resound and am having Zero issues at the moment with it. It would be nice to get some of the new updates rolling quicker with the phone, but the amount of work developers have put into the current roms is amazing. They are all very talented people, and there's no possible way to thank them enough for all they've done. I just do really hope some end up trailing back in our direction and bring/breathe more life into this phone..... Particularly Jellybean.
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hey man, i'm just as upset as you with the developers leaving. our community really has been shot to hell, and i don't really see it recovering very well, and that sucks. we started off as a small, close, tight-knit community from like weeks before launch date. many of us were familiar faces from the Inc forum, so we were enjoying ourselves. once we got bigger, i guess everything began to get on peoples' nerves: lack of AOSP, RIL, kernel source, ICS not being released, etc etc.
now, we have less than a handful of developers left, as they've all left for the nexus.
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.....but this is exactly what I'm saying, its all marketing. By people playing ball and RUNNING to the newest phone that has better software when we dont get source fast enough all were doing is saying "hey, you can manipulate the market easily, just take too long to update software and we'll just buy the next phone you tell us to buy". We just need to be patient and wait for source, this is a GREAT phone! Just. Be. Patient.
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.....but this is exactly what I'm saying, its all marketing. By people playing ball and RUNNING to the newest phone that has better software when we dont get source fast enough all were doing is saying "hey, you can manipulate the market easily, just take too long to update software and we'll just buy the next phone you tell us to buy". We just need to be patient and wait for source, this is a GREAT phone! Just. Be. Patient.
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Let's see VZW/HTC stated this phone officially would have ICS Q1, it is now Q3 and they have yet to deliver. This phone has already passed it's shelf life so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't see the official ICS/source for another month, or two, or three. It sucks but you just gotta face it, this phone is dead. Great phone with a lot of potential, troll community destroys any hope of AOSP or the improvement of current roms.
The thing is, manufacturers have zero motivation to update the software on their phones because they make no money off of that and have to spend money on development.
If not coming up for an update for the Rezound and putting the latest on the One X, they ensure that anyone who wants the latest android will spend money on a new phone.
Yeah we're rooted and we do have the latest, but despite that, I think we all share that itch to get the newer phone with the slightly better CPU and a little bit more RAM.
It's a fact that faster hardware doesn't always make for a faster phone, the quality of the software running on it makes a huge difference as well. I see the same thing on my rezound, sense launcher has never been smoother while 3rd party launchers like Nova, Apex, Go, have never been slower. Open the app drawer, everything is smooth but flip through screens on the desktop and you get that low framerate feel.
I wouldn't consider the GNEX too old to buy but I'll be enjoying my Rezound until the next phone from Google.
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The thing is, manufacturers have zero motivation to update the software on their phones because they make no money off of that and have to spend money on development.
If not coming up for an update for the Rezound and putting the latest on the One X, they ensure that anyone who wants the latest android will spend money on a new phone.
Yeah we're rooted and we do have the latest, but despite that, I think we all share that itch to get the newer phone with the slightly better CPU and a little bit more RAM.
It's a fact that faster hardware doesn't always make for a faster phone, the quality of the software running on it makes a huge difference as well. I see the same thing on my rezound, sense launcher has never been smoother while 3rd party launchers like Nova, Apex, Go, have never been slower. Open the app drawer, everything is smooth but flip through screens on the desktop and you get that low framerate feel.
I wouldn't consider the GNEX too old to buy but I'll be enjoying my Rezound until the next phone from Google.
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This.
Completely.
rsage said:
I like where this thread is going and I agree with the sentiments behind it, hopefully no one will come in here and turn this into a troll-fest.
Personally, I think this is a natural (though unpleasant) thing that's going on. In the forums for my last device, this exact same thing happened - as frustration grew over manufacturer/carrier delays for the next big/promised release and source code, things got bad in the community. It got ugly. Then the release finally came and source finally came and some really good things happened, including CM9. I haven't been back there in a long time so I have no idea what it's like now, but that's the way I left it. I'm hoping once we have source that good things will happen. I believe we'll see some new faces and maybe some old ones.
The one thing that complicates matters in the Rezound forums is the issue of donations (in my opinion). In my old device's forums, a lot of the devs (maybe most) refused to take donations, or at least discouraged donations, and actually it seemed the most talented devs were the ones most likely to discourage/least likely to accept donations. Here, a lot of the devs (most? all?) accept and even encourage donations, in some cases outright asking for them. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, I've donated to at least 3 Rezound devs myself, but there are risks that come along with accepting/encouraging donations. The people who donate then expect certain things, expectations are higher, and if you don't deliver or if you leave before delivering, you have to expect some people are going to take it hard. I'm not saying I agree with that, it's just human nature. There is a fine line between donating to encourage someone and outright paying them for an expected outcome.
I don't think I ever posted anything negative towards any dev, and I've never taken sides in the current "war" that's going on. I must admit there is one thing I really don't get in all this, one thing I really would like to post and ask about because I'm honestly confused by it, but I know 100% it would turn into a troll feeding frenzy, so I'm just going to keep it to myself and hope for better days ahead.
Personally I love this phone (aside from battery life) and think it's still better than a lot of devices coming out now. I'd love to get more into the dev game myself if I could just. find. the. frickin. time...
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Maybe some people need to change their expectations.
I don't donate for future work. Since it's entirely possible that the dev has run into a creative or technical wall, I think it's an unrealistic expectation. But that's just me.
I donate because I appreciate the work the dev has already done. If he takes the donation as an "attaboy" as inspiration for bigger and better things, I consider that a bonus.
Nilsp's ROMs are just about the only ones I've used since I got my Rezound. I appreciate the consistent quality, that he'll answer a question almost anytime of the day or night without snark, and that his ROMs are in a constant state of improvement. I've bought him at least one beer if not two, and if he can get Sense 4 to run properly, I'll buy him a case.
BTW...Nilsp had to be coaxed into accepting donations. Like many of the devs, his satisfaction seems to come in beating the challenges and the simple thanks the users of his product give him. The rest...beer money.
I think another problem with this community is the sense that Verizon has practically orphaned this phone right out of the gate. It was supposed to be a top of the line phone...by technical standards, it's still one of their best phones eight months out of the gate, which is saying something...but they never promoted it, and the dragging of their feet with the ICS update is simply maddening, given that they implied it would be one of the first to get it.
I like this phone. I'm pretty much stuck with it for another year anyway, but I can't see the advantage to jumping at quad cores, especially since few apps can truly take advantage of the extra cores anyhow.
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I don't donate for future work. Since it's entirely possible that the dev has run into a creative or technical wall, I think it's an unrealistic expectation. But that's just me.
I donate because I appreciate the work the dev has already done. If he takes the donation as an "attaboy" as inspiration for bigger and better things, I consider that a bonus.
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I agree with you, but not completely. You see, I've noticed two ways of inviting for donations.
1. "If you like my work, please consider donating". That I agree with you, a donation is for past work and no expectations should be assumed on either side. You like the current rom and you want to donate, send a few bucks and enjoy the phone. No one ever said there would be a next version.
2. "Let's get 'x' a phone so that he can develop for the Rezound". This is far different than the first one. This, in simple terms, means "If you buy me a phone, I will release something". Maybe just one Rom supported for a little bit, maybe more, but this DOES imply that if the developer gets his/her new phone, that this person will develop something. This is money for future development.
Going with the second method is risky because it does set an expectation to get something back for getting that person a phone. Those expectations are likely to be different between the developer and people who donated. I am convinced that this is why there is so much friction and frustrated people in the Rezound forums. Different people have different expectations and some people are bound to feel like they deserve more.
I learned my lesson though. Next time someone needs the community to help them get a device, I'll politely pass because this concept of donating for future work is at high risk to cause frustrations.
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I agree with you, but not completely. You see, I've noticed two ways of inviting for donations.
1. "If you like my work, please consider donating". That I agree with you, a donation is for past work and no expectations should be assumed on either side. You like the current rom and you want to donate, send a few bucks and enjoy the phone. No one ever said there would be a next version.
2. "Let's get 'x' a phone so that he can develop for the Rezound". This is far different than the first one. This, in simple terms, means "If you buy me a phone, I will release something". Maybe just one Rom supported for a little bit, maybe more, but this DOES imply that if the developer gets his/her new phone, that this person will develop something. This is money for future development.
Going with the second method is risky because it does set an expectation to get something back for getting that person a phone. Those expectations are likely to be different between the developer and people who donated. I am convinced that this is why there is so much friction and frustrated people in the Rezound forums. Different people have different expectations and some people are bound to feel like they deserve more.
I learned my lesson though. Next time someone needs the community to help them get a device, I'll politely pass because this concept of donating for future work is at high risk to cause frustrations.
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Nobody bought me a phone. I'm not buying someone else one.
I prefer developers who plan to use their phone and their ROMs as daily drivers...because that's how I use my phone. If I'm helping a dev buy a phone, he's only in it for the challenge. Once he thinks he's met that challenge, he's off looking for a new one...while I've still got a year or more to go on my contract. And all of that presumes we're talking about an ethical developer...one that's not using his buddy's phone to do the work and pocketing the donations. ---NOTE---that is not an accusation pointed at anyone, just a hypothetical.
I'm not the government. I don't pay for future development....because more times than not, it doesn't work out to be much of a bargain for the taxpayer.
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We still love you.
The development section hasn't had anything good in at least a month.
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Huh?
Nils has been releasing GREAT stuff. Why do folks ignore this super-talented dev?
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Huh?
Nils has been releasing GREAT stuff. Why do folks ignore this super-talented dev?
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yeah, nils is the man. made some badass roms on the Inc, and continues to do so on the rezound.
What happened to CM threads they are both closed?
Whoa I just noticed that too!
Anyone follow any of the devs on Twitter or anything?
I'm wondering if it has anything to do with what unfolded earlier today...
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I'm wondering if it has anything to do with what unfolded earlier today...
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Which was....?
Spaniard85 said:
Which was....?
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TheCubed developer whom created Bump along with TeamCodeFire has quit developing for our phone. Future updates more then likely won't work unless others pick up where they left off. Now that Bump is open sourced and out there LG will be able to lock it back down if you recieve OTA. I am sure development will not just stop. Lots of good people doing damn good work. jholtom for one who got us CM11 and 12.
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TheCubed developer whom created Bump along with TeamCodeFire has quit developing for our phone. Future updates more then likely won't work unless others pick up where they left off. Now that Bump is open sourced and out there LG will be able to lock it back down if you recieve OTA. I am sure development will not just stop. Lots of good people doing damn good work. jholtom for one who got us CM11 and 12.
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Damn. Well that definitely sucks, but like you said, hopefully the talented folks we have helping us out right now will soldier on,
But if you don't do the OTA then what's the issue with continuing development on Roms that have been bump'd?
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No issues if we continue to have someone working on them.
So did the devs just abandon cm11 and cm12? What happened to where the threads needed to be closed?
That I don't have the answer for? I surely hope not. That would be a shame.
Well it sure would be nice to have even a half a$$ answer. I mean are they on hold, are they abandoned? I've been holding off flashing the zv6 to see if these are going to start up again. Roms can still be bumped now that its public I think. I don't know, I think more people should get pissed at LG, unlock your f$-"#@ bootloader to your glorified camera & hoopy doopy screen. Ranting. Fun always sucks when it comes to a hault
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It won't die just might be low key. People may just have to know where to look for stuff. Just may not be on XDA served to us on a platter.
XDA has been sweet, but people get bossy with ETAs and don't know how to use search functions or google. Just expect answers without self education. Block OTAs and keep our devices ours.
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It won't die just might be low key. People may just have to know where to look for stuff. Just may not be on XDA served to us on a platter.
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I retract my old statement. I wasn't really thinking because Engine has been developing for us since day 1 and I am using his D3 rom for ZV4 right now for the longest I have kept a rom before flashing another. I'll stick around as long as we have at least one developer trying.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm all for open sourced things, but I feel this whole Bump thing will blow up in our faces.
Yes, another group took theCubes work (and his team), stating they were being "Shady" about it, and opened it for all. Usually, this is good news, but you have to ask yourself a couple of things. One, why wasn't it open sourced to begin with? Is it because CodeFire/theCubed was making money? No. They were clearly keeping the process in the dark, but if it wasn't for financial gain, then why? The ONLY logical answer has to be because they knew more about the situation w/ LG than any one else.
I've got to believe, that when someone takes a couple of months to accomplish something no one else could, then holds on to it for whatever reason, I've got to believe it's for the good of the community. With signatures and keys, and with the CM11 & CM12 being closed, I firmly believe we are all screwed now without Codefire and theCubed. This process has taken forever to get, and in a matter of days, another team ruined it, and the future, so what? They could have OFFICIAL CM ROMs? Ridiculous.
I guess my point is, I've been a member for 8+ years on this forum, and I have NEVER seen this much drama, name calling, *****ing, moaning, accusations and ETAs. I don't know if it's new members, old members getting old and cranky, or just society loosing all respect and patience; but this crap needs to stop! I've been on other phone threads, and the LG G3 issues are BY FAR the worst. If you don't have anything nice to say, if you don't have any thing to add, shut it. Show a little respect to devs, take your fragile ego out of it, and lets move forward together. Who cares if something is SHADY, so long as it gets the job done?!? That's why everyone was initially *****ing anyways, because nothing was happening. Now that things are picking up, people NEED to know how it works? Pathetic.
Stepping off the soap box. Clean up this post if needed, but the community needs to clean itself up. Take the initiative, stop stupidity.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm all for open sourced things, but I feel this whole Bump thing will blow up in our faces.
Yes, another group took theCubes work (and his team), stating they were being "Shady" about it, and opened it for all. Usually, this is good news, but you have to ask yourself a couple of things. One, why wasn't it open sourced to begin with? Is it because CodeFire/theCubed was making money? No. They were clearly keeping the process in the dark, but if it wasn't for financial gain, then why? The ONLY logical answer has to be because they knew more about the situation w/ LG than any one else.
I've got to believe, that when someone takes a couple of months to accomplish something no one else could, then holds on to it for whatever reason, I've got to believe it's for the good of the community. With signatures and keys, and with the CM11 & CM12 being closed, I firmly believe we are all screwed now without Codefire and theCubed. This process has taken forever to get, and in a matter of days, another team ruined it, and the future, so what? They could have OFFICIAL CM ROMs? Ridiculous.
I guess my point is, I've been a member for 8+ years on this forum, and I have NEVER seen this much drama, name calling, *****ing, moaning, accusations and ETAs. I don't know if it's new members, old members getting old and cranky, or just society loosing all respect and patience; but this crap needs to stop! I've been on other phone threads, and the LG G3 issues are BY FAR the worst. If you don't have anything nice to say, if you don't have any thing to add, shut it. Show a little respect to devs, take your fragile ego out of it, and lets move forward together. Who cares if something is SHADY, so long as it gets the job done?!? That's why everyone was initially *****ing anyways, because nothing was happening. Now that things are picking up, people NEED to know how it works? Pathetic.
Stepping off the soap box. Clean up this post if needed, but the community needs to clean itself up. Take the initiative, stop stupidity.
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Well said!
We all need to band together and get things working for our phone. I'm down to help as much as possible . I'm grateful for what these guys done so far but there could always be more that the end user could do to help. I been trying everything to get bluetooth working but i won't stop trying. So hopefully there's more people out there working on fixes for the cm rom because it felt nice and smooth on the lg g3. It's a shame bt don't work because i use it alot.
I think we screwed the ROM development over... don't see it happening without proper Bump!. Would love to be wrong... but if that's not the case, and development will continue, why was CM threads closed? Why has nothing been addressed or advanced? I think the development for this phone has been severely handicapped.
Lol ... Um just FYI even though the threads closed there's a new build up .. Nothing stopped