Ads on notification bar is just another form of mobile advertising.
I don't agree how they show notification ads while not using the app,
But I only agree if they show the notification ads when the app is running !
I hope Airpush will change their attitude in future, (and perhaps Admob also have option to include ads on notification bar too, so devs can earn more money)
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So I want to implement Airpush ads on my app (because admob only give me very little).
But I only want to show the Airpush ads when the app is running (no background service / etc),
does anyone here know how to make this (perhaps some code to be modified on AndroidManifest.xml) ?
P.S: sorry for bad english
Rotundjere said:
So I wan't to implement Airpush ads on my app (because admob only give me very little).
But I only want to show the Airpush ads when the app is running (no background service / etc),
does anyone here know how to make this (perhaps some code to be modified on AndroidManifest.xml) ?
P.S: sorry for bad english
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Not real sure. Might want to ask the airpush developers. Just a word to the wise but people.tend to remove apps if they find it has airpush included in the app. I mean think about it. How many ad blockers apps are there? Alot because people hate ads. The best apps are ad free
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Not real sure. Might want to ask the airpush developers. Just a word to the wise but people.tend to remove apps if they find it has airpush included in the app. I mean think about it. How many ad blockers apps are there? Alot because people hate ads. The best apps are ad free
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Actually first I also don't happy with Google with their web ads (Adsense, circa 2003-2004). Once the web is very clean (without ads), but after google Adsense, almost any site have ads (even XDA)
but let's face it, even TV has their own advertising long long time a go..
developers definitely need money, just like your local TV station showing good TV shows
IMHO adblockers only works for people who already know XDA or flashing custom ROMs.
"most" people out there don't even know how to block airpush ads
i dont see ads
i have a custom rom on my galaxy s and yea, i would agree the majority of users dont know how to do that.
One would think that. I have dozens of people come into my store all the time asking how to get rid of the ads.
A simple Google search leads them here. That's why we are over 4 million users. Not to mention all the other android sites that tell people how to block them.
I mean if your set on those types of ads then get ahold of the developers that make airpush. Non are here as XDA doesn't support airpush ads at all.
And for the TV ref. I guess that's why I don't keep cable in the house. Lol
I found other ads network (LeadBolt) that use notification ads but doesn't spam it's user. Will try that
I think Google Admob is cheating. They put ads fee $0.1 - $0.6 per click for advertiser,
but for app publisher they only give $0.01 - $0.02 per click
I know everybody hate Airpush,
but I think Airpush isn't evil as Google who try to steal money from app developers
edited: recently I've checked admob allow advertiser to bid $0.01, but I still don't trust them. Admob will not give any real money for app devs
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Now getting ads in apps such as Angry Birds and Diversion to name a few on my DROID X2. Any advice on a substitute app to prevent ads or maybe a fix for AdFree Android! Thanks in advance!
If you're rooted and willing to pay for an app, get Absolute System Root Tool. I think it's like $2.99. It has a ad blocking service, and to me it works great. Never have ads in games or in browser. Has more features like a font gallery, where you can choose another system font, same with bootanimations, and more.
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Now getting ads in apps such as Angry Birds and Diversion to name a few on my DROID X2. Any advice on a substitute app to prevent ads or maybe a fix for AdFree Android! Thanks in advance!
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If you're rooted and willing to pay for an app, get Absolute System Root Tool. I think it's like $2.99. It has a ad blocking service, and to me it works great. Never have ads in games or in browser. Has more features like a font gallery, where you can choose another system font, same with bootanimations, and more.
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They both use pretty much the same way of blocking ads--the hosts file. You gotta keep in mind that not all ads are going to be blocked. That's just not going to happen. App developers know that there are solutions like AdFree, and so they use new ad servers, or use different methods of getting the ads across.
Think about it this way: You're a dev, you create a new free app and put it on the market, you want to make a little money from it because it took you 50+ hours of hard work, so you put ads in it, and put an Ad-Free version on the market for $.99. If you don't like the ads in Angry Birds, shell out the $.99, but don't complain because you are getting something for free....
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Think about it this way: You're a dev, you create a new free app and put it on the market, you want to make a little money from it because it took you 50+ hours of hard work, so you put ads in it, and put an Ad-Free version on the market for $.99. If you don't like the ads in Angry Birds, shell out the $.99, but don't complain because you are getting something for free....
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+1 (I just bought Absolute System Root Tool)
These "apps" are usually cents, not normally more than a few dollars. If the ads get the devs a bit of beer money, I am okay with that, thank you for a good app. If there is an ad-free version, I will buy it, thank you for a great app.
Thanks for all the feed back, the advice has been great and very useful.
Anyone know how to hack it and make it have no ads? Like for example i have the no ad version of words with friends. In trying to do it on version 5.26
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If you're rooted, you can use an app called adfree to block ads on your phone. I'm not sure if it will block the ads on chompSMS, but it's worth a shot.
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If you're rooted, you can use an app called adfree to block ads on your phone. I'm not sure if it will block the ads on chompSMS, but it's worth a shot.
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thanks for the app but it doesnt fix chomps ads
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Anyone know how to hack it and make it have no ads? Like for example i have the no ad version of words with friends. In trying to do it on version 5.26
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I think there's an option to "donate" or something that will turn off the ads. From the chompsms website: chompSMS, Settings, Support Us.
That's probably the best way to get rid of the ads, and it also encourages people to continue developing for the android platform.
(As a professional software developer, I'd like to remind everyone that while we might develop out of a love for the challange, we need to eat and support our families as well. That need causes us to spend the majority of our time where the income is.)
Take care
Gary
Hello,
I've been reading a few threads and posts about earning revenue from apps without the use of advertising. I've used Admob network before, but over the past month and a half I've used Sellaring ad network. These guys do audio ads and they add a few good dollars to my pocket each month. In fact, a few more months of incoming ad revenue (and more users to my apps) and I may be able to cut down my day job.
I want to ask here, why is there a great objection to advertising on apps? I see a lot of the opposition here among XDA forum members and much less of it on any other forum. Ad revenue is a potential that can give developers the resource to develop more... this is what many of us want isn't it?
Hope I'm not offending anyone, would appreciate your input.
I don't think anyone here objects to in-app adds. There are many apps with both ad-supported and paid ad-free versions, so people will either buy them or use the ad-supported free version. Those kind of ads don't really bother people. I think the biggest problem people have with ads is with ad-delivery systems like AirPush. Those are intrusive and ruin the experience of using the phone. Coming from the internet, it doesn't feel right to get ads pushed to your notification bar automatically. It's like pop-up windows on many sites on the internet (eg. www.piratebay.se). Nobody likes them.
Since phones are our personal devices and we store so much of personal data on them, it doesn't feel right when we randomly receive ads like that without any control over it (except a convoluted opt-out process). It's an intrusion of privacy. That's the only issue in my opinion.
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But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?
Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
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I don't mind the little in app banner ads. The push notification ads are really annoying, and feels like malicious adware. I will instantly uninstall any app that pushed notification ads.
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Exactly. I uninstall anything that pushes notification bar ads as for me they feel intrusive whereas in app ads I have no problems with.
Dave
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What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
Rob45 said:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
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I think that's a stupid idea, but meh, if it makes money it can't be that bad. It better be optional though!
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Rob45 said:
But do you find banner ads less annoying when you're playing a game? Where do you draw the line between intrusive and non intrusive?
Ad networks like airpush and sellaring make it possible for app developers to make money from their entire installed base... even users who don't use the app every day. For me, that helps to generate a lot more cash.
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It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
Rob45 said:
What do you think of this? http://www.bangstyle.com/2012/03/google-phone-ads/
Looks like Google is making steps in the same direction.
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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LMFAO the Yphone! Couldn't stop laughing!
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As long as it doesn't get as bad as the Google ads in this satire video from the Onion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4
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That's hysterical!! But only cause it takes it to extreme...
Ring back ads are meant to be played during the Ring Back Tone.
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It's likely your app's users do not know where the ads are coming from. I know if I downloaded an app that caused constant advertising to appear on my phone, I would remove it immediately and never deal with that developer again. You have to also look at it from a value proposition. If you are not providing a user with value (i.e. they are not currently using your app), why should they be providing you with value via ad revenue? And imagine if every developer had separate, out-of-app ads. Your phone would be unusable.
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I agree that you have to provide value to users. But considering most Android users don't pay for apps (statistically) and in-app ads do not convert very well, we're pretty much stuck in between. How can we generate revenue for our work?
What if the ads are fun jingles? Doesn't that provide something of value?
Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.
Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
Thankfully, my phone is rooted and running cyanogenmod, so I can block in-app ads as well as revoke permissions for others that use Air push. I realize that ads are how developers make money and keep the apps free, but that doesn't make me hate ads any less. Any app for which there is no way to block all ads is an app that I will not keep, period.
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Labor isn't free and ads are just one way to monetize. The only question that matters is one related to the Golden Rule.
Would you use an app with ads? Does it bother you? If not, you are doing nothing wrong under the eyes of Bob. If users were to complain and bicker, then perhaps you have another question on your hands: to cater to the users or not.
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I'll put up with ads if they are non obtrusive and don't get in the way of using the program. Ads should only be present when the program is open and being used, meaning airpush ads should never be used. They are no different than malicious Windows adware programs that push pop-up ads.
It's not the ads, is the the network
Lets be honest, we all think ad networks are intrusive, messy to deal with (updating SDK's), and overall feel like we "cheapen" our apps when use them. But - they are the most popular "layer" you can slide into a free app in hopes of earning a little revenue from it. Using a completely different model such as fermium, or carrier-billing (Android only at the moment), or in-app purchases go beyond the scope of this post, but are better ways of earning revenue from an app in general.
Let's be honest:
No one like intrusion and advertisements like notifications, audio ads, video ads are intrusive.
Banner ads are fine as all they consume is a part of screen but some app started sending me notifications and I couldn't figure out the source, it's really annoying especially when notification can't be cleared down.
And in android 2.3, there no such feature to swipe the notification. You had to clear all notifications at a time.
I don't think developers object to app ads. There are many developers who have many apps on DesktopAd using banner ads and pop-ups to monetize apps. And I can see banner ads in many Windows apps, but I don't feel them bother me a lot. My apps are on Windows 8.1 desktop platform, I use small banners in my games, I think they would not bother my players. As a result I got generous profits from in-app ads. By the way, my ads SDK is from DesktopAd.com.
on chrome I use the extension do not track plus , if you don't know it, it blocks the ads collecting your data but still lets the ads show unlike an ad blocker.. after all ads provide us with free things..
But.. this post isn't a plug, I have a real question..
Is there anything like this for android? there are plenty of ad blockers out there, and a few apps that can show you which app uses what ad company, but I haven't found anything that works like do not track..
anyone know of anything?
Which one do you prefer?
Are you looking to put them in your game?
I'd say stick with banner ads. Push notification ads and Icon ads can be very annoying from a user's point of view.
Never heard of dial in ads. What are they?
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Are you looking to put them in your game?
I'd say stick with banner ads. Push notification ads and Icon ads can be very annoying from a user's point of view.
Never heard of dial in ads. What are they?
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http://www.sellaring.com/
The_R said:
Are you looking to put them in your game?
I'd say stick with banner ads. Push notification ads and Icon ads can be very annoying from a user's point of view.
Never heard of dial in ads. What are they?
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I agree with him..ads with too annoying feature make me hate the ads and the app beside there's more app alternatively to be choose
SellAring stays installed and plays ads even when your app isn’t running
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Think from the perspective of a user. At least I wouldn't want something like that happening on my device. It just makes your app look like an adware.
Even if you make less money off of banner ads its okay as long as you have users who enjoy using your application.
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Think from the perspective of a user. At least I wouldn't want something like that happening on my device. It just makes your app look like an adware.
Even if you make less money off of banner ads its okay as long as you have users who enjoy using your application.
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I installed sellaring in my new app. The point is that the user wouldn't know that my app is pushing those ads if I would warn them before app launch. But to tell the truth sellaring is complete nonsense. Here are my figures from yesterday:
Requests-New Users-Fill Rates-CTR-eCPM -Revenues
112-147- 39.29%-0%-$0-0
Fill rate is horrible admob gives me 98% (500 impressions). The users hear the ad but I only get revenue if the call back after their call is finished or acces information by sms (after the phone call a popup appears which prompts to do so).
But yes it is annoying and I even uninstalled my app because even in debug mode you hear those adds every time you call smbdy and that is really annoying
SellAring
Hello,
I'm Yang from sellAring. Motioncoding, I'm sorry to hear you faced some issues with our service and I wanted to say a few things in response to your post.
There may be an error involving the numbers you posted, or perhaps they were not updated at the time you checked. I'd like to look into it and we are always available to help with this sort of issue and you catch us by mail or on Twitter.
Regarding the debug mode you mentioned, we enable 3 modes for initializing in the SDK:
1. Production mode- enabling users to hear up to 2 ads per day.
2. Developer (test) mode – allowing app developers to test our service by hearing an ad on each of their outgoing call.
3. Disable mode - turning off our service.
Your app has to be in mode of production to enable users to hear ads. SellAring was probably in "Developer" mode in your app which should only be used for testing. If you want ads not to play, change sellAring to Disable mode.
I hope this helps, we can always be reached at support at sellaring.com
The_R said:
Are you looking to put them in your game?
I'd say stick with banner ads. Push notification ads and Icon ads can be very annoying from a user's point of view.
Never heard of dial in ads. What are they?
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i agree with you mate its better to stick with banner ads.
[email protected] said:
Hello,
I'm Yang from sellAring...
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Well I finally earned 10$ while I earned 150$ with admob. Sellaring is annoying for users and requieres alot of permission which leads to the thing that some users title apps with sellaring as spyware / malware. Also you guys should improves your site: what about statistics like in admob? Ability to customize ads? ... And I don't know what happend last week but the site was down every day for some hours -> horrible services.
Sorry but thats my experience with sellaring.