Can anyone help me build a list of pros and cons of using Google Talk on Android? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm gonna stop using Aim, along with every other messaging client. My only problem is that none of my friends actually use Google Talk, but the majority of them actually have an Android and obviously have a Google account. I need to build up a list of reasons why they should use it so I can actually convince them to
start using it.
Thanks in advance
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because you can. I cant use it in ontario canada. drives me nuts!

Because of the integration the google apps have on android for obvious reasons lol.

I know it's light on the battery, notifications work flawlessly, GTalk never crashed for me, and I'm sure it doesn't need to be updated so often.

Every Android user got it on his phone, so no need to install another application for chating

I'll give a con:
it disconnects (other people see you offline) WAY TOO often.
Around the web you may find scripts useful to reduce heartbeats interval (means keepalive), but you need root at least in order to use them.
I'd love to use gTalk. Unfortunately, it fails as a always on chat app. Ironic, isn't it ?

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[Q] Skype for g tablet

I hope this question is ok to ask? I was hopingto be able to Skype on my viewsonic tablet I downloaded android app no use deleted. Tryed todownload for mircosoft won't allow me too I can't get a video feed to pop like I can using laptop? Can someone help me? Great device for email and web! But I need to Skye family.
Thanks
Jumpmaster82
I don't think Skype for android does video yet. Check themes area, there are some threads there. Reelportal seems to work.
Jim
Calls Work
I have skype working on my tab with TnT lite 3.4 right now.
the android app doesnt have video yet, but i pay 3 bucks a month for unlimited calling in the US and my tab work beautiful to make calls, ordered a pizza off of it last night.
If your looking to video chat, the yahoo messenger app works great regonizes the camera built in.
But you have to download the yahoo mess app from the market and install it first, and then search for the yahoo messenger video add-on app for the video to work.
Good luck hope this helps.
jumpmaster82 said:
I hope this question is ok to ask? I was hopingto be able to Skype on my viewsonic tablet I downloaded android app no use deleted. Tryed todownload for mircosoft won't allow me too I can't get a video feed to pop like I can using laptop? Can someone help me? Great device for email and web! But I need to Skye family.
Thanks
Jumpmaster82
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Please use the search feature on this site, there are plenty of threads on this that will answer any and all your questions. All we need is another skype thread asking the same questions to get the same answers.
I'm just saying...
skype
Thank you for some ideas don't want to duplicate threads, but I would like to Skype.
Jumpmaster82
copc said:
Please use the search feature on this site, there are plenty of threads on this that will answer any and all your questions. All we need is another skype thread asking the same questions to get the same answers.
I'm just saying...
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Hello there new wannabe moderator! How ya doing
@OP:
We're flooded with similar requests for Skype; just did a quick search using the following keywords:
g tablet skype (http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partne...fhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=g+tablet+skype&sa=Search)
Have a look at some of these threads, you likely find what you need.
Regards,
Just thought I would mention that I have been searching for an hour and still cant find a link....
I am using Yahoo messenger also. Video chat works great.
Fix that market!
Skype only showed up for me after doing the market fix.
Simple way:
-Force Stop Google Services Framework. Do not clear cache.
-Force Stop Market. Do not clear cache.
-Load Titanium Backup (rooted/free one works fine for me) and Wipe Cache for Google Service Framework.
-Run Market again (And you should get an Error!)
-Reboot and wait until all clear (SD scan complete and all) then load Market again.
While I appreciate the instructions as a newb, Not sure how to do what to do or where to get what to get.
How to force stop and titanium backup....
what any idiot knows, I aint got a clue about.
cassycan said:
While I appreciate the instructions as a newb, Not sure how to do what to do or where to get what to get.
How to force stop and titanium backup....
what any idiot knows, I aint got a clue about.
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To force stop, go to Settings->Applications->System Applications and find the app in the list. Tap on it, and you'll see a "Force Stop" button.
Titanium is a market application. You can either download it from the market (if you can access the market), or you can download it directly from the author's site here: http://matrixrewriter.com/android/files/TitaniumBackup_latest.apk
Thanks to all.... I am not stupid but I admit ignorance. Than ks for the help..... Is now done and working and got skype. magic.
BTW how is winter springs. lived in longwood and sanford for 15 years.
thanks for the patience
So I guess the version that was released for Verizon phones like the Thunderbolt aren't easily ported over, right?
Seems only VZ phones support skype video.
Here is the bottom line.
The current skype app for android does not support video conferencing. Only audio. The video version released for the thunderbolt is not compatible with the gtab, or anything else for that matter. Many of us have tried to make it compatible. No luck.
Skype was just bought by microsoft. And microsoft is well known for killing their software competitors, so don't hold your breath for a video skype for android anytime soon.
That said, you guys should have done a search for skype and other video conferencing apps. I'll be a nice guy and tell you which ones work and which ones don't work here.
Oovoo - works for froyo and ginger.
Yahoo messenger - works for froyo and ginger, you need the vid plugin app.
Skype - only audio.
Google talk - nada...
Vtok - works for some people, doesn't work for others, I'm still trying to figure out the determining factor.
Gay roulette - works wonderfully... so does every other random on-cam masturbation apps. Makes me wonder. If these random video chat apps work so well, why the hell can't the REAL VIDEO CHAT apps work? Boggles my mind why we can't get a decent video chat app even though the porno industry is light years ahead.
goodintentions said:
Here is the bottom line.
The current skype app for android does not support video conferencing. Only audio. The video version released for the thunderbolt is not compatible with the gtab, or anything else for that matter. Many of us have tried to make it compatible. No luck.
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That's the answer I was looking for. Thanks for verifying- I figured I would have seen more threads on this if it were working.
Skype was just bought by microsoft. And microsoft is well known for killing their software competitors, so don't hold your breath for a video skype for android anytime soon.
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I disagree, that seems to be an overly simplistic view of the situation.
MS bought Skype to offer more services and be more competitive with their biggest rival at the moment: Google.
Google has a variety of voice calling services, and MS has NONE- this is their attempt to attract some of that market. And just like they are pushing bing maps and search on Android devices, don't be surprised if they push their voice services there as well. They did not buy Skype in order to push WP7, I don't believe that for a second (MS isn't that suicidal, it makes no good business sense).
Remember, Skype makes most of their money from phone calls to regular phones, and that is regardless of what OS you use (Mac, Linux, mobile, etc). MS didn't buy Skype to run them into the ground. They can't afford to go losing paying customers on this investment, so it would be silly for them to drop the growing mobile user base (especially with Google Voice calls over IP dangling over our heads).
Also, lets not forget their apparent deal with Verizon to release video mobile versions. Just because MS bought them doesn't mean all current contracts and deals are nullified. They might have projects set in motion and obligations to finish before MS has a say in shifting gears.
That said, you guys should have done a search for skype and other video conferencing apps. I'll be a nice guy and tell you which ones work and which ones don't work here.
Oovoo - works for froyo and ginger.
Yahoo messenger - works for froyo and ginger, you need the vid plugin app.
Skype - only audio.
Google talk - nada...
Vtok - works for some people, doesn't work for others, I'm still trying to figure out the determining factor.
Gay roulette - works wonderfully... so does every other random on-cam masturbation apps. Makes me wonder. If these random video chat apps work so well, why the hell can't the REAL VIDEO CHAT apps work? Boggles my mind why we can't get a decent video chat app even though the porno industry is light years ahead.
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LOL @ the gay roulette...
I've used Yahoo messenger before, and it DOES work pretty well, honestly- but it requires the person I'm calling to have YM as well, and to be perfectly honest, no one I know has it. Tango, etc, is similar- great service, if I'm calling other mobiles who happen to also have it installed already. Most of us are interested in Skype because we're calling family members, significant others, etc, who are not going to switch to a new service just because we have a cool new toy.
Oovoo is interesting- I didn't know they worked on Android (last I checked they didn't have a working client yet). I still have the same problem as before (no one has it), but I like the 3 way video feature. I might be able to convince people to switch to that because of the added functionality. Thanks for pointing that out!
Where can I find an oovoo .apk, though? It doesn't show up in my market (google or Amazon), and the version I found with a search here appears to be a beta that doesn't support video calling yet.
I'm running CM7 on my G-tab, btw.
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I disagree, that seems to be an overly simplistic view of the situation.
MS bought Skype to offer more services and be more competitive with their biggest rival at the moment: Google.
Google has a variety of voice calling services, and MS has NONE- this is their attempt to attract some of that market. And just like they are pushing bing maps and search on Android devices, don't be surprised if they push their voice services there as well. They did not buy Skype in order to push WP7, I don't believe that for a second (MS isn't that suicidal, it makes no good business sense).
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You're forgetting something. MS is coming out with the tablet version of windows... called windows 8. Making skype friendly to google android will only enrich google more. If anything, they will make skype more friendly to windows 8 than anything else.
Remember, Skype makes most of their money from phone calls to regular phones, and that is regardless of what OS you use (Mac, Linux, mobile, etc). MS didn't buy Skype to run them into the ground. They can't afford to go losing paying customers on this investment, so it would be silly for them to drop the growing mobile user base (especially with Google Voice calls over IP dangling over our heads).
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I'm not saying they're going to run skype into the ground. I just don't think making video chat accessible to android platform a priority right now for them. They will be coming out with windows 8 in a few months. I believe that's where they'll concentrate their effort.
Also, lets not forget their apparent deal with Verizon to release video mobile versions. Just because MS bought them doesn't mean all current contracts and deals are nullified. They might have projects set in motion and obligations to finish before MS has a say in shifting gears.
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I sure hope you're right. All my relatives are using skype video. And they ain't changing to something else anytime soon.
Oovoo is interesting- I didn't know they worked on Android (last I checked they didn't have a working client yet). I still have the same problem as before (no one has it), but I like the 3 way video feature. I might be able to convince people to switch to that because of the added functionality. Thanks for pointing that out!
Where can I find an oovoo .apk, though? It doesn't show up in my market (google or Amazon), and the version I found with a search here appears to be a beta that doesn't support video calling yet.
I'm running CM7 on my G-tab, btw.
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The hacked version of oovoo specifically for gtab works. Here's the file.
Thanks for posting that, I'll try it later.
The Yahoo messenger app, meanwhile, is terrible! I remember it working ok on my Optimus' rear camera, but after trying it now I've had a totally different experience. First it wouldn't stop ringing (connected the call, but kept ringing, even after signing out. I had to FC the app to make it stop!), and even when it DID connect (on the 5th attempt), my video wouldn't transmit, and my friend's Nexus S I was calling only used the rear camera.
This app is useless!
Before I try Oovoo, it has just come to my attention that Fring supports plugging into other video chat protocols, including Gchat and Yahoo directly. Since Fring works pretty well on most mobile devices (I recall Fring to Fring working well, but didn't keep it cuz no one has fring!), could this be a better option? Then we could call other Fring users, and desktops using Gchat (or whoever is stuck using Yahoo IM I suppose). If I recall correctly, Gchat can even work in a web client without installing software, video and all, right?
That's might be a good alternative. Meanwhile, back to the whole Skype/Android/Microsoft thing, what ever happened to their aquisition of QIK? I thought part of the reason Skype bought Qik was to integrate their preexisting client and userbase of Android users into Skype. I can't believe MS would just drop all that, would they? And what will become of Qik in the end?
Dishe said:
That's might be a good alternative. Meanwhile, back to the whole Skype/Android/Microsoft thing, what ever happened to their aquisition of QIK? I thought part of the reason Skype bought Qik was to integrate their preexisting client and userbase of Android users into Skype. I can't believe MS would just drop all that, would they? And what will become of Qik in the end?
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Yes, they would drop all of that. MS is getting ready to make a big splash with their windows 8 for tablet platform. The last thing they want is to add more options to their biggest software competitor, google.
goodintentions said:
The hacked version of oovoo specifically for gtab works. Here's the file.
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This doesn't work on my gtab (CM7 n85).
It turns on, signs in, but video calling is inactive and any voice calls made/received are terminated as soon as picked up.
Yahoo messenger (with video plugin) was also reported to work. Yet, I wasn't able to make/receive any calls with it (IMs sent fine, calls never goes through).
Any insights are welcomed and appreciated.

The Wifiphone

So I've recently swapped over from an Ipod Touch 3 to a Samsung Galaxy Player 5. There are things I love and things I hate about my new device, since I used my Ipod touch primarily as a smartphone whenever it was on wifi. Here are some of my observations and things I've found along the way that might help people make the switch:
~~ VOIP Calling ~~
I've tried several of the VOIP apps (gtalk, grooveip, etc) and they all share a common problem: there is a large delay on the line. When I had my ipod touch, I used to use an app called Talkatone and it worked beautifully with no delay whatsoever. Turns out, you can get it on android (although not through the market). Had to really dig to find this one, but boy is it worth it!The app is incredible and works out of the box with no configuration. No delay at all, no echo, each party can hear the other without a problem. And it's free (for now)!
RECOMMENDATION: Talkatone (google: "talkatone apk" and find the link to the official site. Sry I can't post the link )
~~ Texting ~~
Use the official google voice app for now and throw a widget on your home screen. I got so spoiled by bitesms/google voice integration on my ipod, but for now this is about as good as it gets. Eventually, chompsms or some competitor will integrate google voice so you can quick-reply to texts without leaving the app you're in. They say it's in the works, so keep your fingers crossed!
RECOMMENDATION: Google Voice App (market)
~~ Calendar ~~
Using lockinfo on my ipod really spoiled me as far as keeping track of my upcoming events goes, but android gives us a similarly simple solution in the form of Pure Grid Calendar Widget. Toss a 4x4 XL widget on your homescreen and have fun never opening your calendar app again
RECOMMENDATION: Pure Grid Calendar Widget (market)
~~ Music: Desktop Syncing ~~
Coming off of itunes is tough, as I'm sure you all know. I decided to use windows media player on my desktop to sync my music, since it allows easy syncing to external SD (important, since I have more than 8GB of music) and is easy to use, despite being ugly and clunky. To listen to music on my computer, I'll be using Zune (soooo much better than itunes!), since playlists and ratings should sync right over to windows media player and therefore, my android. Still playing around with this, though. Will update as time goes on.
RECOMMENDATION: ?
~~ Music: Your device ~~
If the stock music player had a widget that worked, I would have used that, but since it didn't and there seem to be no good widgets for it in the market, I swapped over to PlayerPro. So far so good, but still don't have much experience with this, so will update over time.
RECOMMENDATION: ?
~~ Browser ~~
Currently I'm using the stock browser, since it is relatively zippy and works with flash player. Tried opera mini, and love the speed, but compatibility is shaky. Still not sold on this one.
RECOMMENDATION: ?
~~ File Explorer ~~
Use ES File Explorer. Don't ask questions. Just do it. When/if you decide to root, it gets better. Before you root, it lets you change file extensions (stock does not). It's also free with no ads.
RECOMMENDATION: ES File Explorer (market)
~~ Keyboard ~~
I'm personally really liking Swype, but it does take up a lot of memory and the keys are very small in portrait when typing things you can't swype (usernames, passwords, email addresses, slang, etc). Not sold on this, but definitely better than stock.
RECOMMENDATION: Swype ?
If you guys can think of anything I've missed as far as decisions about android you have to make, please let me know so I can update this. Still relatively new to android. Thanks!
Hi,
I haven't tried it yet (using Sipdroid + GV + pbxes.com, currently), but here's a link for Talkatone.com and Android:
http://www.talkatone.com/android-preview.html
Jim
Thanks, that's the link I'm not allowed to post! Do you experience any lag when talking on the phone with sipdroid? I had really bad lag, but may have set it up incorrectly. Want to make sure my info's right. Thanks, again!
xxBrun0xx said:
Thanks, that's the link I'm not allowed to post! Do you experience any lag when talking on the phone with sipdroid? I had really bad lag, but may have set it up incorrectly. Want to make sure my info's right. Thanks, again!
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Hi,
No, I haven't noticed any lag using Sipdroid+GV+pbxes.com on my SGP5. The only thing I've found is that I think it won't go into speakerphone mode on the SGP5. Works fine holding the SGP5 up to your ear, like a "real" phone .
I haven't tried it with the earbuds (suppose to have a mic on them already) or with a Bluetooth headset yet.
FYI, I downloaded the talkatone APK. It installed ok on my SGP5, and at first I couldn't call out. But I changed the compression to "none WIFI" and I think it worked ok after that.
However, whenever I pressed the "Speakerphone" icon, the talkatone app would FC, so it looks like they have some work to do (I know it's an "alpha"). I've uninstalled it from my SGP5 for now, since Sipdroid seems to work ok, plus the talkatone app puts up a ton of ads while it's running (like a new ad every couple of seconds?).
Later,
Jim
I find GrooveIP works pretty good, but will try Talkatone, thanks! Texting GV for sure.
edit: Trying Talkatone, not nearly as good UI as GrooveIP (no access to Google favorites, no contact pix), does seem to make calls fine. Speakerphone crashes app. Sticking with GrooveIP for now, until they officially release this thing.
I had Boat Mini as my browser for a year on my phone, but jus switched to Dolphin HD on my 5.0, very nice, especially the RSS section (Webzine). I have now eliminated Pulse because of it.
I really like the built in calendar, use Smooth Calendar Widget with it.
Don't listen to music a lot, but find Google Music nice (use it on my PC at home and work). For off-line I use Cubed, very nice UI and widgets, here'sthe link, it's hard to search for: http://www.appbrain.com/app/³/org.abrantix.rockon.rockonnggl
FX File EXplorer is great unrooted, but since I have File Expert on my phone, I'm using it on my 5.0, love this theme:http://www.appbrain.com/app/file-expert-dream-bubble-theme/com.geek.filexpert.theme7 My ONLY issue with it is it does allow reverse sorting (by date ends up newest last, which sux), but favorites pretty much solved that.
+1 Swype.
Like Any.DO for lists/google tasks sync.
Like Jango for radio/streaming favorites.
Like BMW and PowerTudor for pinpointing power issues.
Like this for weather (only beacuse it was a free Amazon app).
Like this for screenshots (at least for the 1st 14).
Like this for putting different pictures on screens.
And GO Launcher, Dropbox, Quickpic, and K9 are all better than stock.
My favorite game: http://www.appbrain.com/app/super-stickman-golf/com.noodlecake.ssg
xxBrun0xx said:
So I've recently swapped over from an Ipod Touch 3 to a Samsung Galaxy Player 5. There are things I love and things I hate about my new device, since I used my Ipod touch primarily as a smartphone whenever it was on wifi. Here are some of my observations and things I've found along the way that might help people make the switch:
~~ VOIP Calling ~~
I've tried several of the VOIP apps (gtalk, grooveip, etc) and they all share a common problem: there is a large delay on the line. When I had my ipod touch, I used to use an app called Talkatone and it worked beautifully with no delay whatsoever. Turns out, you can get it on android (although not through the market). Had to really dig to find this one, but boy is it worth it!The app is incredible and works out of the box with no configuration. No delay at all, no echo, each party can hear the other without a problem. And it's free (for now)!
RECOMMENDATION: Talkatone (google: "talkatone apk" and find the link to the official site. Sry I can't post the link )
~~ Texting ~~
Use the official google voice app for now and throw a widget on your home screen. I got so spoiled by bitesms/google voice integration on my ipod, but for now this is about as good as it gets. Eventually, chompsms or some competitor will integrate google voice so you can quick-reply to texts without leaving the app you're in. They say it's in the works, so keep your fingers crossed!
RECOMMENDATION: Google Voice App (market)
~~ Calendar ~~
Using lockinfo on my ipod really spoiled me as far as keeping track of my upcoming events goes, but android gives us a similarly simple solution in the form of Pure Grid Calendar Widget. Toss a 4x4 XL widget on your homescreen and have fun never opening your calendar app again
RECOMMENDATION: Pure Grid Calendar Widget (market)
~~ Music: Desktop Syncing ~~
Coming off of itunes is tough, as I'm sure you all know. I decided to use windows media player on my desktop to sync my music, since it allows easy syncing to external SD (important, since I have more than 8GB of music) and is easy to use, despite being ugly and clunky. To listen to music on my computer, I'll be using Zune (soooo much better than itunes!), since playlists and ratings should sync right over to windows media player and therefore, my android. Still playing around with this, though. Will update as time goes on.
RECOMMENDATION: ?
~~ Music: Your device ~~
If the stock music player had a widget that worked, I would have used that, but since it didn't and there seem to be no good widgets for it in the market, I swapped over to PlayerPro. So far so good, but still don't have much experience with this, so will update over time.
RECOMMENDATION: ?
~~ Browser ~~
Currently I'm using the stock browser, since it is relatively zippy and works with flash player. Tried opera mini, and love the speed, but compatibility is shaky. Still not sold on this one.
RECOMMENDATION: ?
~~ File Explorer ~~
Use ES File Explorer. Don't ask questions. Just do it. When/if you decide to root, it gets better. Before you root, it lets you change file extensions (stock does not). It's also free with no ads.
RECOMMENDATION: ES File Explorer (market)
~~ Keyboard ~~
I'm personally really liking Swype, but it does take up a lot of memory and the keys are very small in portrait when typing things you can't swype (usernames, passwords, email addresses, slang, etc). Not sold on this, but definitely better than stock.
RECOMMENDATION: Swype ?
If you guys can think of anything I've missed as far as decisions about android you have to make, please let me know so I can update this. Still relatively new to android. Thanks!
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I personally use Google Voice for texting, and Firefox for browsing. The new release is pretty slick.
First, I think we need separate threads for some of these since there could probably be entire discussions on each. Just a thought. And thanks to Bruno for starting this one.
I've just installed groove IP and tried it out a little. There is a lag plus folks on the other end report bad call quality. I have not played with the settings at all yet. Hope to do that tonight. I'll look at Talkatone once it hits beta or so. Going to look into Jim's solution tonight too as that sounds interesting.
If there are any folks who have been through the Groove IP setup on the YP-G70 already I'd appreciate hearing how your settings ended up!!
My Groove settings:
Audio settings: Echo nothing, Speaker "0", MG -6
Troubleshooting: KSO check, AP check, SV check, HiPerfWifiLock check
All others not checked or default. I don't talk much, but it seems to work. There is a number you can call that repeats back what you say so you can keep testing different settings: 909-390-0003
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First, I think we need separate threads for some of these since there could probably be entire discussions on each. Just a thought. And thanks to Bruno for starting this one.
I've just installed groove IP and tried it out a little. There is a lag plus folks on the other end report bad call quality. I have not played with the settings at all yet. Hope to do that tonight. I'll look at Talkatone once it hits beta or so. Going to look into Jim's solution tonight too as that sounds interesting.
If there are any folks who have been through the Groove IP setup on the YP-G70 already I'd appreciate hearing how your settings ended up!!
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If you're willing to give up the cloud-acceleration try Opera Mobile instead of Mini: it has good compatibility and Flash support, while still being pretty fast, so it doesn't lose any features from the default browser, making it an excellent alternative.
Thanks tcat. I'll try those setting tomorrow.
With regards to which browser I know that the Dolphin browser was very popular but was found to be tracking your surfing and phoning home - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529&page=31
In the above thread the Boat Browser seems to be the only privacy safe browser on Android. I am trying the Firefox browser right now.
Hey, just an update on this a few months later: Returned the galaxy player and got myself an optimus V from Virgin Mobile and WOW. Having internet everywhere was awesome Then I upgraded to a Triumph, and soon I'll be on Straight Talk (AT&T) using a Droid Razr. I traded my Ipod Touch straight up for the Triumph and it was basically brand new. Also, don't even want to tell you how cheap the razr was. Craigslist rocks. After playing with true phones, I can't honestly recommend the galaxy player 5 to anyone. It's simply too much money. You could pay a little more and get a galaxy nexus, which blows the player 5 out of the water in terms of specs, and if you decide you want a data plan, you can buy a sim card from straight talk and just use it for that, no monkeying around with voip apps. It costs more, but it is absolutely worth every penny, imo.
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Can i use GrooveIP in Europe for free?or is calling only for USA numbers free?
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Is there an app for international calling? From outside US or Canada to outside.
I did the opposite, went from an Optimus-V to the Player5.0, and use my V only about once per month. Now there are rumors that HTC 3D is coming to VM, if so I'll buy it. I don't like carrying 2 devices, and having data 24/7 is a big plus. I do have wifi at home and work, so the Galaxy is really all I need. GrooveIP works for me 90% of the time (since I get no cell signal at home, it's a must). But the 4.3" screen of the HTC at a much higher resolution will cause me to get rid of this wonderful Player to help pay for the HTC.... my grandfathered $25 unlimited is a deal that's hard to get rid of.
xxBrun0xx said:
Hey, just an update on this a few months later: Returned the galaxy player and got myself an optimus V from Virgin Mobile and WOW. Having internet everywhere was awesome Then I upgraded to a Triumph, and soon I'll be on Straight Talk (AT&T) using a Droid Razr. I traded my Ipod Touch straight up for the Triumph and it was basically brand new. Also, don't even want to tell you how cheap the razr was. Craigslist rocks. After playing with true phones, I can't honestly recommend the galaxy player 5 to anyone. It's simply too much money. You could pay a little more and get a galaxy nexus, which blows the player 5 out of the water in terms of specs, and if you decide you want a data plan, you can buy a sim card from straight talk and just use it for that, no monkeying around with voip apps. It costs more, but it is absolutely worth every penny, imo.
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@tcat007 Another solution that might help would be to try either Wifi Ruler or WiFi Jumper apps. These apps make your YP-G70 auto-connect to the nearest best wifi signal without any interaction just like a cell phone auto connects to the nearest cell tower.
Haven't tried them extensively yet but I'm thinking they will help bridge the gap between wifi phone and cell phone.
gVoice works best for me. no setup to do
After trying all the apps in this thread, I've found SIPdroid+pbxes works best for me. Audio delay is the smallest out of all of them, even though the interface isn't as pretty.
Thanks
Thanks for the recap

[Q] App to track family members (with their permission)

I saw another thread about hiding apps in some guy's wife's phone to track her. I'm looking for something similar with my wife, but it does not need to be hidden. Mainly to be used because I commute quite a distance and this would let her know how close I am to home (rather than having me text while driving). Similarly for her when she's travelling.
Just an app that would:-
1. Allow me to see where she is (and vice-versa)
2. Use GPS if on, otherwise fall back on net information
3. Not use SMSes (some sort of internet-based communication between phones)
I could probably hack something up using Tasker but her phone isn't rooted like mine is so the capabilities for GPS etc are a bit more limited (and time is limited, of course).
Thanks!
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ngoonee said:
I saw another thread about hiding apps in some guy's wife's phone to track her. I'm looking for something similar with my wife, but it does not need to be hidden. Mainly to be used because I commute quite a distance and this would let her know how close I am to home (rather than having me text while driving). Similarly for her when she's travelling.
Just an app that would:-
1. Allow me to see where she is (and vice-versa)
2. Use GPS if on, otherwise fall back on net information
3. Not use SMSes (some sort of internet-based communication between phones)
I could probably hack something up using Tasker but her phone isn't rooted like mine is so the capabilities for GPS etc are a bit more limited (and time is limited, of course).
Thanks!
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You can actually do this with the built in google maps application. It's called local/latitude. You can share where you are and control who sees it an when. Go ahead and look into it. Much better then downloading another app IMHO.
See here: Google search latitude android
Thanks, yeah I know about latitude features but it seems to lack a way to "ping" the other party with the equivalent of "hey, I've reached road X"
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Use an app called Backitude from the Play Store. Latitude updates pretty arbitrarily on its own. This app allows you to control how and when it updates, and also let's another person force an update on your phone by sending an SMS. It's all Internet based except the update triggering part. You can also use the tracking features of Cerberus, another app in the Play Store.
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Is this project dead?

Everything I'm seeing concerning this ends around the beginning of 2013. Did development come to a hault?
I would love to load this onto my EVO 4g LTE, but it seems it isn't very friendly with the device (no data, sound, etc).
Thanks for any current update
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I must admit that I also struggle with their approach a little.
Think they should focus more on the very basics, like APN settings. I don't get a data connection so one of the most important requirements fail. Can't use such a system.
Next should be essential apps like (xmpp/jabber) Messenger and Mail instead of useless games or stock ticker app. At least on the mail side there's some action ongoing.
Nevertheless I'm very excited and looking forward to use it as a daily driver (some day).
happyass**** said:
I must admit that I also struggle with their approach a little.
Think they should focus more on the very basics, like APN settings. I don't get a data connection so one of the most important requirements fail. Can't use such a system.
Next should be essential apps like (xmpp/jabber) Messenger and Mail instead of useless games or stock ticker app. At least on the mail side there's some action ongoing.
Nevertheless I'm very excited and looking forward to use it as a daily driver (some day).
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They are actually working on an email app (not official though but with support from Canonical).
Links:
http://mhall119.com/2014/03/first-steps-towards-a-converged-email-client-for-ubuntu/
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/EmailClient
You cannot install it on the phone using the apps scope yet but you can compile it yourself if you want to test it.

[Q] [HELP] Google Apps Device Policy Work Around?

Hey everyone,
This one really has me stumped. My work is finally moving it's email from Exchange to Google Apps for Business, and for many reasons at first I couldn't be happier. I signed on as an early adopter and have now realized I've hit a huge snag. I can no longer get email notifications on my device without basically giving my employer nearly full control of my personal device. They are requiring the Google Apps Device Policy and forcing a 6 character password to unlock my device, encryption, and permission to remote wipe, among other things. I just really don't feel comfortable giving them that kind of control over my personal device but I do need immediate access to my email to stay on top of things since I'm out in the field way more often than I get a chance to sit in an office. The mobile Gmail site works well enough, but not as well as IMAP support with push notifications would. When we were on Outlook, their policy was essentially similar in that you couldn't bring your own device, but I was able to find a nice app called Outlook Web Mail for Outlook OWA Web Mail which essentially logs into the webmail site and was able to present it in a mobile format and even offer notifications.
I guess what I'm looking for at this point is something similar. I'm hoping someone can suggest an app that, as far as the server is concerned, is just checking the mail from the mobile website but is presenting it to me in an app that is able to give me notifications, even if it's on an interval and not push. Does anyone know if such an app exists for Google Apps for Business accounts or is even possible?
If not, then I guess the next thing I would be looking for is a hackier workaround that can convince the server that I'm abiding by all the rules and still allow me to do whatever I want with my device. I realize this is riskier as far as getting me into trouble but I am rooted and familiar with flashing, Xposed Modules and whatnot (I was surprised my device was even approved with my root status and custom rom).
So sorry for the dissertation but I wanted to lay the whole situation out. I found other threads about GADP but they were more talking about device compatibility rather than a workaround/bypass for it. Anyone gone through something similar at their job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Worse come to worse, the mobile site isn't the worst thing in the world considering that Outlook mess we came from. Thanks in advance.
My device:
Retail Verizon Note 3 rooted with SafeStrap running the latest Eclipse ROM
anyone?
Well is there any way to receive notifications from the mobile site? I think I recall a few years back when Google pulled sync support for iOS that some iPhone users had to do some shenanigans like this without push support and people used apps that were essentially browsers to check mail and provide notifications. Is there anything similar on Android? Or does it not exist since it's a niche concept? I just have a hard time believing I'm the only person with this problem.
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
Blis said:
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
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That's for the reply. I'll give that a go. I've actually rigged it up so I still get notifications at this point through filters and auto forwards to my personal account. But something more native would be a lot better. Thanks again.
No further information on this thread?
I'm in the same situation with my company making the switch to google apps. They are enforcing encryption and non root'd phone. I have found that I can use IMAP to get my email, but my calendar is not found.
I have looked into just circumventing the checks....the only encryption solution i've found is some twrp/titanium back up so that you can at least easily recover systems after u've already been encrypted (not exactly a great solution).
As for the root access, ,the only solution i've found is with rootcloak (im not even sure if either of these solutions would actually work. I'm very much interested in a real solution.
Rootcloack didn't work for me, but that was 8 months ago. Try Touchdown, it's free for 30 days.
Try bluemail.
nomaanym said:
Try bluemail.
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No luck for me. I appreciate the recommendation. I thought it was going to work when it went through my job's secure portal for setup but not such luck.
I'm looking for a way to do this as well.
I'm in a very similar situation and looking for the same workaround. Currently I'm able to use Edison Software's "Email" app to log in my corporate email account, but without the ability to receive notifications... which is a step better to endure the horrible mobile UI on gmail's website, but still would be better to have push notifications
Have you found any good alternative for gmail/hangouts/sheets without having to install "device policy"??
B1gC72 said:
Hey everyone,
This one really has me stumped. My work is finally moving it's email from Exchange to Google Apps for Business, and for many reasons at first I couldn't be happier. I signed on as an early adopter and have now realized I've hit a huge snag. I can no longer get email notifications on my device without basically giving my employer nearly full control of my personal device. They are requiring the Google Apps Device Policy and forcing a 6 character password to unlock my device, encryption, and permission to remote wipe, among other things. I just really don't feel comfortable giving them that kind of control over my personal device but I do need immediate access to my email to stay on top of things since I'm out in the field way more often than I get a chance to sit in an office. The mobile Gmail site works well enough, but not as well as IMAP support with push notifications would. When we were on Outlook, their policy was essentially similar in that you couldn't bring your own device, but I was able to find a nice app called Outlook Web Mail for Outlook OWA Web Mail which essentially logs into the webmail site and was able to present it in a mobile format and even offer notifications.
I guess what I'm looking for at this point is something similar. I'm hoping someone can suggest an app that, as far as the server is concerned, is just checking the mail from the mobile website but is presenting it to me in an app that is able to give me notifications, even if it's on an interval and not push. Does anyone know if such an app exists for Google Apps for Business accounts or is even possible?
If not, then I guess the next thing I would be looking for is a hackier workaround that can convince the server that I'm abiding by all the rules and still allow me to do whatever I want with my device. I realize this is riskier as far as getting me into trouble but I am rooted and familiar with flashing, Xposed Modules and whatnot (I was surprised my device was even approved with my root status and custom rom).
So sorry for the dissertation but I wanted to lay the whole situation out. I found other threads about GADP but they were more talking about device compatibility rather than a workaround/bypass for it. Anyone gone through something similar at their job? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Worse come to worse, the mobile site isn't the worst thing in the world considering that Outlook mess we came from. Thanks in advance.
My device:
Retail Verizon Note 3 rooted with SafeStrap running the latest Eclipse ROM
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scorpienez said:
Have you found any good alternative for gmail/hangouts/sheets without having to install "device policy"??
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Nope. It just doesn't work on Android. They gave me an iPhone (I asked for a Pixel ) when I got a promotion last year, so now I just carry 2 phones. That said, I haven't rooted in a while so I don't know what's happening in that front anymore.
I don't think there's a way to do what I was trying to do before. Sorry folks.
Me too...
B1gC72 said:
Nope. It just doesn't work on Android. They gave me an iPhone (I asked for a Pixel ) when I got a promotion last year, so now I just carry 2 phones. That said, I haven't rooted in a while so I don't know what's happening in that front anymore.
I don't think there's a way to do what I was trying to do before. Sorry folks.
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I'm sorry to hear that. My educational institution's unlimited-storage Google account seems like the perfect match for this phone, but draconian MDM is a non-starter. Hopefully someone in the community does find a workaround at some point!
I have the exact same problem. I got a new personal phone which I was hoping I would be able to use Gmail and Google Classroom on for school but the device policy manager deactivates a bunch of my settings when i try it. The accounts just don't work without the policy manager, from the internet or the app. Do you think that if I were to speak to the school about it that they would be able to remove it? or is it impossible from their end due to the privileges they need over the account for security etc?
Thanks for your help,
Boxboy5
Blis said:
If you want to just access emails, calendar, etc., try Touchdown. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nitrodesk.droid20.nitroid&hl=en
You will not use the gmail or google contacts/calendar app though.
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