When I'm repairing my Xperia Neo using SEUS, it says that "The phone contains modified software that cannot be updated". What should I do about it?
Bootloader unlocked?
Yep! Bootloader unlocked will cause my phone to have a fail update?
silverfvck said:
Yep! Bootloader unlocked will cause my phone to have a fail update?
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How did you unlock the bootloader? There is a way that you loose the official updates and another that you don't
I followed the instructions on SE site. :|
That way you loose the official update, even ota :s I'm still on stock because I want to learn more before I touch the bl, because of warranty too. I don't know if there's a way to get the updates back, I'm new to Sony Ericsson stuff, have my neo for a week now
The thing I concerned is that if I can still update my Neo when the official Ice Cream Sandwich for Xperia released.
That I don't know, try to ask that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335 but I don't think that will be possible, because you gave them your imei. Read that thread and ask there about that, I'm really new to this stuff, I had a Samsung Spica before.
I see! Thanks a lot buddy. Maybe this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258723 will help me soon when the official Ice Cream Sandwich released. They posted here the original firmware of SE Xperia phones.
silverfvck said:
When I'm repairing my Xperia Neo using SEUS, it says that "The phone contains modified software that cannot be updated". What should I do about it?
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if you would like to update your phone with the latest or previous software with BL unlocked, you can use wotan server, its pretty easy and straight forward or you can use flashtool if you have the proper FTF files for your phone.
If you would like to relock your BL, then you can do so, since you used the SE procedure, here's how to relock your bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335
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after relocking your bootloader, you can now use PC Companion to update your phone
Pinoy ka nga! Salamat!
silverfvck said:
Pinoy ka nga! Salamat!
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heheheh no probs kababayan!
DrearierJester1 said:
if you would like to update your phone with the latest or previous software with BL unlocked, you can use wotan server, its pretty easy and straight forward or you can use flashtool if you have the proper FTF files for your phone.
If you would like to relock your BL, then you can do so, since you used the SE procedure, here's how to relock your bootloader:
after relocking your bootloader, you can now use PC Companion to update your phone
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If I someday need my warranty back, what is the best way to unlock the bl?
dioggo92 said:
If I someday need my warranty back, what is the best way to unlock the bl?
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I suggest to use the SE unlock procedure as the other procedure (not sure what its called) aside from your cannot relock the bootloader, unlocking process is hard and complicated.
But DRM (where Track ID is using) will be totally gone once you unlocked the bootloader and you cannot get it back even if you relock BL. (just a heads up though)
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How did you unlock the bootloader? There is a way that you loose the official updates and another that you don't
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That's why I asked if its unlocked, and not if it's patched
With patched bl you can still use official update service.
DrearierJester1 said:
I suggest to use the SE unlock procedure as the other procedure (not sure what its called) aside from your cannot relock the bootloader, unlocking process is hard and complicated.
But DRM (where Track ID is using) will be totally gone once you unlocked the bootloader and you cannot get it back even if you relock BL. (just a heads up though)
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but the other way "test point" the phone doesn't know if the bootloader is locked or not, isn't there a way to relock it anymore?
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Madfysh said:
That's why I asked if its unlocked, and not if it's patched
With patched bl you can still use official update service.
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For newbies like me is normal that I miss some information xD
dioggo92 said:
but the other way "test point" the phone doesn't know if the bootloader is locked or not, isn't there a way to relock it anymore?
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yeah that was "test point" thanks, I just forgot the name the time I posted my reply earlier. LOL! I'm not really sure but according to the thread I've read here on XDA, its not possible at the moment, so I suggest using the SE procedure which is pretty straight forward.
For newbies like me is normal that I miss some information xD
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me too, I miss some info, noob here as well but, been here since I got xperia mini and I got xperia neo now!
DrearierJester1 said:
yeah that was "test point" thanks, I just forgot the name the time I posted my reply earlier. LOL! I'm not really sure but according to the thread I've read here on XDA, its not possible at the moment, so I suggest using the SE procedure which is pretty straight forward.
me too, I miss some info, noob here as well but, been here since I got xperia mini and I got xperia neo now!
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Xperia neo is an awesome phone
Concerning about the warranty, is it compatible with unlocking/re-locking the bl? I read a lot of threads but never read nothing that gives me a clear answer...
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but the other way "test point" the phone doesn't know if the bootloader is locked or not, isn't there a way to relock it anymore?
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By that method bootloader is not unlocked, but instead it's patched, so that it accept unsigned images. As far as I know, you can't "unpatch" it
dioggo92 said:
Xperia neo is an awesome phone
Concerning about the warranty, is it compatible with unlocking/re-locking the bl? I read a lot of threads but never read nothing that gives me a clear answer...
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Well, for start, the official online method warns you that you are loosing warranty by doing that. Did you really think they won't cover themself?
Anw, if you do the online unlock, you can lock it back, but it won't bring drm stuff like track id back, it's gone forever from your phone(but I see you already know that ).
Now in real life situation. I really doubt they will check if you still have drm stuff on your phone or if your bl is patched. They will most likely check if bl is locked or unlocked
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By that method bootloader is not unlocked, but instead it's patched, so that it accept unsigned images. As far as I know, you can't "unpatch" it
Well, for start, the official online method warns you that you are loosing warranty by doing that. Did you really think they won't cover themself?
Anw, if you do the online unlock, you can lock it back, but it won't bring drm stuff like track id back, it's gone forever from your phone(but I see you already know that ).
Now in real life situation. I really doubt they will check if you still have drm stuff on your phone or if your bl is patched. They will most likely check if bl is locked or unlocked
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Thanks for now I will continue with stock... all I need is root for now, but I miss cyanogen from my last phone xD
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hi guys
i want to show how to have r800i (( rooted )) with locked bootloader. easy and step by step :
1- i imagine that you have 2.3.4 , now unlock it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034087
or
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-xperia-arc-play-neo-pro/
2-root it easily from this link :
http://hp-gsm.blogspot.com/2011/08/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-tips-and_27.html
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098131
3-now relock it as drinking a water from this link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335
now you have lock - and - rooted xperia play
please press the thanks botton
thanks you
Isnt this exactly the same as my topic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274634
Cat_On_Droid said:
Isnt this exactly the same as my topic?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274634
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no dude
it's not the same.
i suggest a way to have root and locked phone .
mehdi.moha said:
no dude
it's not the same.
i suggest a way to have root and locked phone .
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This really isnt a thread that belongs in development. You also failed to mention the method above, will delete the devices DRM certificates for good, they will loose the abilty to use track id and sony music and video store forever.
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mehdi.moha said:
no dude
it's not the same.
i suggest a way to have root and locked phone .
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it kinda is, you just include a link to the bootloader relock thread. that's all that's different. kudos for trying to be helpful, i just personally find this thread as a means to boost your thanks meter..
edit: and i also feel the topic is misleading. upon reading it, it sounds like you have a new method of rooting the new firmware, without unlocking the bootloader at all. which for many people with branded phones, will be horribly shot down to see that, yet again, they need to enable fastboot to do something they have probably already read else where (probably on the linked pages you provided)
if i do this and keep my boot loader locked, will trackID still work? And SE updates?
yohandesilva1 said:
if i do this and keep my boot loader locked, will trackID still work? And SE updates?
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no.since the OP said you need the BooTloader unlocked..
yohandesilva1 said:
if i do this and keep my boot loader locked, will trackID still work? And SE updates?
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No you can't do this, hence you have to unlock your bootloader in the process to gain root with his tut and you'll loose trackID (DRM) and it won't come back even when you relock it.
You can root without unlocking bootloader on the newest FW 4.0.1.A.0.283 in another way. Check out the dev section for more info
Regards Dousan...
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if i do this and keep my boot loader locked, will trackID still work? And SE updates?
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Dousan said:
No you can't do this, hence you have to unlock your bootloader in the process to gain root with his tut and you'll loose trackID (DRM) and it won't come back even when you relock it.
You can root without unlocking bootloader on the newest FW 4.0.1.A.0.283 in another way. Check out the dev section for more info
Regards Dousan...
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"hey guys , i'm sorry if i post my threat here by mistake and it's not right place "
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yes , you can root on 2.3.4 by OTA update , but i think the generic UK still not released .
when you unlock your phone , you can't recieve and use SEUS anymore , but if relock your phone , you can use it during update/repair without any problem .
How do I relock my Xperia Mini Pro? I unlocked it through the official way on the Sony Website and wanting to relock it now. I reflashed my phone to stock ROM with stock KERNEL and want to lock the bootloader. I downloaded Flashtool and now I don't know what to do. Should I use Flashtool or S1tool? Please help, thanks
Plus, Flashtool is not recognizing any drivers I have installed, I installed my phone's driver using Gordan Gate's which I got from WontanServer. Will I have to install the drivers manually?
If you used official method, you will need this file, attached to my post, inside the .rar file, and Flashtool. Just place the .ftf file in Flashtool/firmwares folder, then open Flashtool, flashmode and pick the relock_bootloader.ftf file. Make sure your phone is in Flashmode also.
About drivers...I cannot remember, which drivers did I install...
Thanks, a lot, I have finally relocked the bootloader. But just to make sure, how can I check If my bootloader is locked or unlocked? Thanks
BudgyN1 said:
Thanks, a lot, I have finally relocked the bootloader. But just to make sure, how can I check If my bootloader is locked or unlocked? Thanks
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Dial *#*#7378423#*#* service info>cofiguration.If it says bootloader unlocked allowed : yes then it's locked, if bootloader unlocked : yes then it's unlocked.
One qeustion by my side: After relocking the bootloader, is it posiible when you send it to the servis to be detected that the bootloader has been unlocked (or maybe that the device has been rooted) previously? I have relocked the bootloader and done repair with Pc companion so everything is like before well.....except that before i did a root with flashtool and didn't knew that the stock firmware isn't rootable like that and i lost 3G!!!!!!...now i must set to 2g in order to get signal coz i get with 3g weak signal and when i make a call it drops off. That's why i want to send it to the service
T3sla said:
Dial *#*#7378423#*#* service info>cofiguration.If it says bootloader unlocked allowed : yes then it's locked, if bootloader unlocked : yes then it's unlocked.
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Mine says bootloader unlocked : yes and it's unlocked !!!
babis01 said:
Mine says bootloader unlocked : yes and it's unlocked !!!
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I can't see the problem with that
T3sla said:
I can't see the problem with that
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Read the topic title.
Did you flash the .ftf file with Flashtool properly? It worked on me perfectly, was able to lock the bootloader without problems.
Someguyfromhell said:
Read the topic title.
Did you flash the .ftf file with Flashtool properly? It worked on me perfectly, was able to lock the bootloader without problems.
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I did.That's not the user who started the topic and he didn't provide info whether he tried to relock or not bootloader so...
T3sla said:
I did.That's not the user who started the topic and he didn't provide info whether he tried to relock or not bootloader so...
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No i didn't try to relock it and i'm sorry for the misunderstanding..
What i was trying to say is that if i reflash my phone to stock ROM with stock KERNEL and take it to service how will they know that it's unlocked?
If they try the known dial *#*#7378423#*#* method my devise says : bootloader unlocked allowed : yes
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No i didn't try to relock it and i'm sorry for the misunderstanding..
What i was trying to say is that if i reflash my phone to stock ROM with stock KERNEL and take it to service how will they know that it's unlocked?
If they try the known dial *#*#7378423#*#* method my devise says : bootloader unlocked allowed : yes
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I knew that your post had nothing to do with relocking patrida If you unlocked your phone with sony's official method you loose your DRM even if you relock it.Now, about the service, i highly doubt they gonna search if you unlocked it but i can't swear about that.There is also another method unlocking your phone without loosing DRM but didn't tried it and i don't know if they can detect it or not
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... you loose your DRM even if you relock it...
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Now i get it.. you loose your DRM the exact time you ask them to provide you unlock code!
So,no matter what you do afterwards they allready know which device is unlocked and which is not.. sosta thessalonikie mou??
My phone is unlocked with the "other" method and let's hope that i'll never have to take it to them and wonder if they detect it or not!!!
My phone now is locked and to check if your bootloader is locked or not, download S1tool. Open S1tool and click "Identify" and then follow the onscreen instructions. When your phone's information comes up it will say "R(some numbers and letters)". If you have a capital R means your bootloader is locked, if you have a small r means your bootloader is unlocked.
babis01 said:
Now i get it.. you loose your DRM the exact time you ask them to provide you unlock code!
So,no matter what you do afterwards they allready know which device is unlocked and which is not.. sosta thessalonikie mou??
My phone is unlocked with the "other" method and let's hope that i'll never have to take it to them and wonder if they detect it or not!!!
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You lose DRM, if you unlock via fastboot using official method. When DRM is gone, it is completely gone, currently there is no way of getting it back.
BudgyN1 said:
.. Open S1tool and click "Identify" and then follow the onscreen instructions. When your phone's information comes up it will say "R(some numbers and letters)". If you have a capital R means your bootloader is locked, if you have a small r means your bootloader is unlocked.
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Will try that tonight and get back to you with the results!
Can you guys please tell me what this "other" method is? The one by which you can unlock a Xperia Mini without loosing DRM.
papul said:
Can you guys please tell me what this "other" method is? The one by which you can unlock a Xperia Mini without loosing DRM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
will this work on xperia active?
etherflux said:
will this work on xperia active?
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Yes. It should work on all 2011 xperia devices.
Sent from my ST15i using XDA
papul said:
Yes. It should work on all 2011 xperia devices.
Sent from my ST15i using XDA
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thanks mate. i owe you one
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thanks! this method works for xperia active
Hi, new here .
Quick question; has anyone successfully unlocked their XMP with the Wotanserver client? I want to make sure they're reputable and trustworthy before I hand over ~£13. As far as I understand, this is the easiest way to remove a carrier-lock (and no free way exists).
This is mainly so I can then unlock the bootloader and install custom kernels.
Thanks!
I have read from somewhere, that they have unlocked their Xperia with WotanServer and it succeeded. Can't remember, which topic it was....Try searching.
if they use a test point method then you can be almost sure it will work well.
I have unlocked 2 both went without a problem
Sent from my Xperia Mini Pro using xda premium
But, does it give you fastboot? (To flash new kernels)
ginryu said:
if they use a test point method then you can be almost sure it will work well.
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He needs to remove network-lock, which can be done via WotanServer.
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He needs to remove network-lock, which can be done via WotanServer.
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It can be wotan server or omnius or setool but by my own experience if the server uses the test point method there will be no prob and maybe even will left the bootloader unlock.
You can unlock the sim using test point or imei code. So i don't know if wotanserver uses test point as i don't know if the imei method will unlock the fastboot mode that is why i made a comment about the method.
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But, does it give you fastboot? (To flash new kernels)
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Yes, it does because unlocks bootloader too..
Ok thanks for the replies .
So basically I need to find out from them what method they use (not sure if they'll tell me that :S) and ask if I can unlock the bootloader as a result of using their tool - or if their tool unlocks the bootloader as well.
I'll post here when I get an answer .
notoxa said:
Ok thanks for the replies .
So basically I need to find out from them what method they use (not sure if they'll tell me that :S) and ask if I can unlock the bootloader as a result of using their tool - or if their tool unlocks the bootloader as well.
I'll post here when I get an answer .
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dude, to unlock from wotan server, you use the test point method.. And when o unlock your phone from network, it will unlock bootloader too, so you don't have to worry with that anymore... btw, after unlock your phone, don't do officials updates from sony, it will brick your phone..
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dude, to unlock from wotan server, you use the test point method.. And when o unlock your phone from network, it will unlock bootloader too, so you don't have to worry with that anymore... btw, after unlock your phone, don't do officials updates from sony, it will brick your phone..
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Ok thanks, I guess I'll go ahead with this then.
Just to clarify on your last point; it's the bootloader unlock which won't play nice with sony updates, right? So if I want to use an official update in the future I can just re-lock the bootloader but keep the network unlocked?
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Ok thanks, I guess I'll go ahead with this then.
Just to clarify on your last point; it's the bootloader unlock which won't play nice with sony updates, right? So if I want to use an official update in the future I can just re-lock the bootloader but keep the network unlocked?
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I think you just need to install with flashtool.. but I'm not sure..
notoxa said:
Ok thanks, I guess I'll go ahead with this then.
Just to clarify on your last point; it's the bootloader unlock which won't play nice with sony updates, right? So if I want to use an official update in the future I can just re-lock the bootloader but keep the network unlocked?
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From what we know at the moment, yes it is so.
Not much people have network locked phone, so we don't have much information.
And yes, unlocked bootloader will not let Sony updates to be installed.
Hello
Just purchased a SK17i Xperia Mini Pro Black Version that is locked to 02 (UK network). I am obvously new to all this stuff but do have a basic understanding but here are some questions:
1) I am thinking of waiting until Android 4.0 is Officially released by SE to update my phone (btw, anyone know when the update is coming). Was wondering when I update will I still be able to root my phone?
2) When I root (if I can) I want to install Set CPU to overclock my phone. However I have heard this drains batteries? Is this true and if so how can I make my phone faster?
3) I need to unlock my phone. Can this be done for free after rooting? If not, can someone link me to the cheapest place I can get this unlocked from?
Thanks in advance to anyone that answers
Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
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Hey dude,welcome to XMP family.
1)According to Xperia Blog,XMP will get the ICS update in the end of May or early June,after the first wave for arcS,neoV and ray.I don't know whether we can root it on official ICS or not,but I think to get a rooted phone is easy once you unlock the bootloader,and besides,there are so many developers here.
2)When it comes to overclocking,apparently it would cause battery drain faster.But with my experience,I hardly feel its difference on SE stock Rom.As for custom rom like FXP's,which I has used for a while,it drains about 2~3% per hour while idle(drop speed is two times than stock.)
3)Certainly you can unlock your phone for free,see this thread & tutorial.But it should be noticed that once you unlock it then you may invalidate your warranty.
Mine is on FXP CM9(ICS) and it's kind of laggy,but I can't tell it's because of the ICS rom or existed bugs.As SE said,we may not have the same experience like Gingerbread if we update to ICS.
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Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
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Hello mate, thanks for the great post
I think I will leave stock ROM once updated actually, seems to be running fine atm as it is.
I think I will still update to the official ICS when it comes out as does look worth it.
Just about no. 3) I think your talking about after rooting, the process to get custom ROMs by unlocking the bootloader? I was talking about the network? lol
Unless I'm mistaken?
Thanks again
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There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
BudgyN1 said:
There is no way to get your phone unlocked from a network for free but WontanServer offers an unlocking for $15. You can try that out. Just type WontanServer in Google and click the 1st link. WontanServer is legit and won't steal your money
Though as a warning you might not be able to update to ICS as it also might unlock your bootloader. Just double check, as I am not 100% sure. Also it will void your warranty
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Thanks alot, will take a look at that website
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
Thanks
good thing in the sense? If you don't bother about warranty then you can try custom ROM ics.but the problem is some bugs are not fixed by developers they will take time.main bug is camera not working..i am using ics so just check k? Good luck
Xperian8~ click thanks if it helps...
subbyhasan said:
What do you mean by updating to ICS will unlock my bootloader? Isn't that a good thing? Don't mind about warranty, can have that sorted out but don't understand the bold line mate
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He meant that the Wotanserver network-unlock method might unlock your bootloader (which it does). This bootloader unlock, whilst giving you access to custom ROMs etc, might not behave with official SONY updates (such as ICS) - I'd link you for proof but I'm not allowed to due to my low post count .
Also, Google 'Omnius Unlock'. They will unlock your phone for free over the next few days (Easter promotion). I'm not sure how reputable those guys are though so you'll want to check.
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
subbyhasan said:
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
subbyhasan said:
Thanks for that Omnius Lock thing, looks great and will check it out
So, if I unlock it I may be unable to upgrade to 4.0? That is a bit stupid to say the least? Anyone on an Xperia that was unlocked then ugraded to 4.0? Did it become locked again?
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Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
BudgyN1 said:
If your phone's bootloader is unlocked you can not recieve any official update through Sony as it will brick your phone but you can install a ICS ROM.
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He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
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notoxa said:
Well I'm not sure about 'stupid', you'll have to weigh it up. If you look in the development section, there's already a very useable version of ICS (look for MiniCMSanwich), which is potentially better than Sony's bloatware-infused and themed version (not to mention probably unrootable) due in a couple of months.
I think it's mainly FOTA bricks that happen (over-the air updating from Sony), and some bootloader unlocks allow for this by just patching the bootloader to make it seem unlocked (any SETool unlock will do this). So there are a number of options.
Be careful also of some bootloader methods stripping the DRM keys, these are used by Sony services like TrackID, which will cease to work (permanently) following a bootloader unlock.
Edit: There's a distinct difference between a network unlock and a bootloader unlock, the former will nearly always also execute the latter, but the latter can be done by itself (obviously only on unbranded phones). The method of getting a custom ROM is basically network unlock > bootloader unlock > root > install custom kernel > install custom ROM. Root can be done before the unlocks, I believe.
I'm new to all this too, only trying to explain because I know how much of a total pain it was to work it all out .
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Ah, right. Makes everything at lot clearer thanks
So if I do unlock through the Wotanserver place, my bootloader will be unlocked but I wouldn't be able to get official ICS, but a just as good if not better copy? Is the ROM fully stable as in does everything function fine? I have heard of an ICS ROM which stopped HD recording on Xperias. Does this have any such problem?
Someguyfromhell said:
He is talking about network lock.
Network lock stays away, updating probably won't lock it again, but no one has tried and we do not have any sure information
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Hopefully will but doubt I can update now anyways
Can I just say thank you to every single poster on this thread. You have all been immensely helpful. There are few forums which reply so quickly and as well as many people on here have done so thanks a lot to everyone
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
lord.tomriddle said:
ya noob question
but help..
im not able to load the ftf file or even see it from the flashtool
i put it in the firmware folder
check the image i attached and see if you can help
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What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
subbyhasan said:
What you on about mate? Make your own thread
Also, just a quick question to add: Do I have to go to SE to get my boot loader unlocked? Or will it automatically unlock with Flashtool when I flash the Kernel?
Thanks
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MY flashtooll aint showing the ftf files..
and you need to unlock bootloader..
got to http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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Thanks for that, do you have a link for me which I can use?
And just generally, can I add that this is the way to get MiniCMSanwich ROM on my XMP:
Root (zerg's software) (not needed but useful so might as well do it then)
Unlock Bootloader (from SE's website or the link which hopefully the above poster/someone else gives me)
Kernel Installation (Flashtool)
Finally, flash the ROM and Gapps using Clockwork Mod Recovery
Thanks
piotrasss87 said:
you can also use the program called SE Bootloader unloker-relocker.Its very simple to unlock it,easyer than ofical way on se website.
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It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
Someguyfromhell said:
It is the same unlock method, just everything brought to one place by that app maker.
Rooting your phone before custom ROM installation is not needed, because old ROM(stock) gets deleted anyway and custom ROMs include root already.
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Ah, right will probably leave it then
Thanks a lot
As I said its make much easyer
there you go mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560613
I am not a noob..have played alott with HTC and samsung phones...but sony seems to b a different ball game all together..i hv been reading threads since the last two days to unlock the bl of my neo v..and flash roms and stuff...
but there are a couple of qstns that are bothering me...
1-I wanted to install KA20.1 Ics rom..since its official stripped down ics... but it needs unlocked bootloader. i am currently running gb..2.3.4 .62...
first i though of rooting and using gb as it is.. but now since ics is here i am inclined to use ics
so here is my question..
If i unlock my bootloader..and then flash official ics using flashtool..will the bootloader get locked again?? will it create any kind of issue for me with regard to using flashtool and flashing official ics?? if yes then what..
will it have to b unlocked again???
and the next question
Everything remains the same in case of jj hybrid rom also??
but i wud appreciate all the help i can get ..cz whatever i learn i always give it back to the forum..
xda rocks..
cheers...
geekynoob said:
If i unlock my bootloader..and then flash official ics using flashtool..will the bootloader get locked again?? will it create any kind of issue for me with regard to using flashtool and flashing official ics?? if yes then what..
will it have to b unlocked again???
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No.
Though not sure what you meant by "flashing official ics". If you meant with flashtool, then answer is still no.
If you meant on using PCC or SEUS then answer depends how you unlock your BL. IF you unlock it unofficial way, with s1tool, then you won't have any problem. If you unlock it via IMEI code from Sony developer page, then you won't be able to use PCC or SEUS until you relock your BL(which is done by flashing 1 ftf file).
And for both official and unofficial way worth rule, do not use OTA updates. For official way, that's 100% correct, while for unofficial way, some report problems, some don't have them.
Madfysh said:
No.
Though not sure what you meant by "flashing official ics". If you meant with flashtool, then answer is still no.
If you meant on using PCC or SEUS then answer depends how you unlock your BL. IF you unlock it unofficial way, with s1tool, then you won't have any problem. If you unlock it via IMEI code from Sony developer page, then you won't be able to use PCC or SEUS until you relock your BL(which is done by flashing 1 ftf file).
And for both official and unofficial way worth rule, do not use OTA updates. For official way, that's 100% correct, while for unofficial way, some report problems, some don't have them.
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Ok..i knew u were around..
i will unlock my bl using s1 tool..the unofficial method...
then flash 4.0.4 using flashtool..
doing this wont relock my bl.. ??
i will not use ota..will freeze it using tb
i hope i am clear now..this internet slang is making tough to write sorry if i wasnt clear..
geekynoob said:
i will unlock my bl using s1 tool..the unofficial method...
then flash 4.0.4 using flashtool..
doing this wont relock my bl.. ??
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That is correct, it wont get re-locked.
Madfysh said:
That is correct, it wont get re-locked.
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Thank you so much for the prompt replies..
sorry for being offf topic now..since iv got ur attention..i just wanted to ask another qstn..
unofficial method shows 2 -ve points.. i have to connect any once to the test point m i right??
can i do THIS...
Flash 4.0.3 from here....
http://communities-origin.sonyericsson.com/thread/35239?tstart=0
Thn root it...using doomlords kit...
thn ota to 4.0.4 and then unlock the bootloader using s1 tool??
so that il hv the root intact..and also will b able to use cwm and roms and other things..
correct me if i am wrong.
thnkk you once again.
geekynoob said:
unofficial method shows 2 -ve points.. i have to connect any once to the test point m i right??
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You mean 2 -ve battery pins? Yeah, only connect to 1, it's enough. Or you can also connect it to simcard holder, as I read, people also do that. Point is to ground it, whatever method you want
geekynoob said:
hw cn i hv cwm on a ics 4.0.4 i will have to root it first and then get cwm?? sorry if i am irritating u..but samsung was much easier ..m coming to grip with sony stuff..
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You're not irritating. Usually I would irritate if someone asks without researching, but as I see you actually research yourself, so it's not hard to answer you
Anyway, for root and CWM, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678690
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I don't like OTA, and after you unlock your BL it will be smart not to use it, as we told above.
And if you unlock your BL it's much easier to root it, as I wrote, check that thread I linked in this post and try.
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You mean 2 -ve battery pins? Yeah, only connect to 1, it's enough. Or you can also connect it to simcard holder, as I read, people also do that. Point is to ground it, whatever method you want
You're not irritating. Usually I would irritate if someone asks without researching, but as I see you actually research yourself, so it's not hard to answer you
Anyway, for root and CWM, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678690
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My mind seems at some peace now..
i will folllow all the steps as u said..
i edited my post at the last moment..sorry for that..if i ave any issues..il b back here..
il do it..wil go slow..once in total grip.. m gonna hv some fun..
Thank you.. God bless..!
cheers..