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April 5, 2008 - v0.21 released.
ICS Control is a GUI front-end for Internet Connection Sharing, a component of Microsoft Windows Mobile. It can be configured to do a variety of things including sharing your cellular internet connection over an adhoc WiFi network.
Requirements: .NET Compact Framework 2.0 and Windows Mobile 5 or later with the IPNAT driver included (most WM6 builds have this built-in). The "Internet Sharing" application that some phones have is not required, but IPNAT is.
ICSControl is a single .exe file, included in the zip file below. You can place it directly in /Windows/Start Menu/Programs/ on your device and it will appear as an icon in Programs. Or you can place it elsewhere and create a shortcut.
Comments, bug reports, and requests are welcome.
If you like this program and would like to express your appreciation with money, you can donate via Paypal.
Changelog
v0.21
- Added host names from DHCP leases to DMZ and InternalHost dropdown lists.
v0.2
- DHCP Lease editing is completed.
- Virtual Server (aka incoming port mapping) configuration is completed.
- Application definitions (aka outgoing port triggers) configuration is completed.
- Added really simple icons.
- Attempts to accomodate weird ipnat driver configurations.
- Other minor changes/fixes.
v0.11
- Added auto-dialing to Connection Manager destinations
- Added private interface IP setting
- Fixed bugs involving the up/down controls.
- IMPORTANT: If you were using v.1, some of your saved settings may be messed up. To fix this, press the Set All Defaults button at the bottom of the settings panel.
More info on Internet Connection Sharing
ICS allows a private network (for example, an ad-hoc WiFi network) to access another network (for example, the internet) as long as the Windows Mobile device is connected to both networks. It should be able to share between any set of adapters. The common configurations of course would be:
Cellular to WiFi (probably the most common scenario, sharing internet access to a WiFi network)
Cellular to Bluetooth PAN
Cellular to USB
But it should also work with more "interesting" combinations like:
VPN to Wifi - get wireless clients onto a VPN
Wifi to Bluetooth - allow bluetooth network devices to access a WLAN.
Wifi to USB - basically the pda acts as a wireless network card for the PC (neat, eh?)
Will this allow you to select the wifi adapter as well?
pflatlyne said:
Will this allow you to select the wifi adapter as well?
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Yes. I guess I should point that out as that is probably what people want to do with it. It should be able to share between any set of adapters. The common ones of course would be:
Cellular to Wifi,
Cellular to Bluetooth PAN,
Cellular to USB.
But it should also work with more "interesting" combinations like:
VPN to Wifi - get wireless clients onto a VPN
Wifi to Bluetooth - allow bluetooth network devices to access a WLAN.
Wifi to USB - basically the pda acts as a wireless network card for the pc
Will test this out when I get home tonight...will find out if Sprint noticed it later this month when the bill comes in
Wow! Sounds great. Downloading now.
This looks interesting. I am hoping this might help me get my phone connected to my laptop as a modem. I do not appear to have the ipnat.dll. Any suggestions?? TIA. AARMD
aarmd said:
This looks interesting. I am hoping this might help me get my phone connected to my laptop as a modem. I do not appear to have the ipnat.dll. Any suggestions?? TIA. AARMD
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Transplanting ipnat.dll (and the necessary registry settings) from another device is possible but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to distribute it. I know, people do it all the time, and there is no reason for MS to care, but I'd still rather not be the one to do it.
I am using a Verizon 6800 with WM6 Pro and DCD 2.2.5 ROM installed by an acquaintance. I can find an ipnat file, but it is not listed as a .dll. It shows up with the Windows logo. Does this help at all? I am sorry, but I am somewhat new at all this. AARMD
aarmd said:
I am using a Verizon 6800 with WM6 Pro and DCD 2.2.5 ROM installed by an acquaintance. I can find an ipnat file, but it is not listed as a .dll. It shows up with the Windows logo. Does this help at all? I am sorry, but I am somewhat new at all this. AARMD
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That's it. File Explorer hides the extension.
Cool, this is working on my Alltel 6800. I have a laptop that had its internal wireless hosed, I am now posting using the HTC as a (very expensive) wireless card
Right now I am running through USB, I have to check it out and see if it works with bluetooth.
dangelon said:
Cool, this is working on my Alltel 6800. I have a laptop that had its internal wireless hosed, I am now posting using the HTC as a (very expensive) wireless card
Right now I am running through USB, I have to check it out and see if it works with bluetooth.
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Hey, most wireless cards can't make phone calls Let me know if it works with bluetooth. Also when bridging like that using the DMZ option could be useful since there is only one USB client so all traffic should route to it. If you hit Refresh after your laptop is connected you should see a host entry in the DMZ dropdown, just choose the laptop's ip and then hit stop ics then start ics.
I couldn't get the WiFi to Bluetooth working, but this laptop has had ongoing bluetooth issues. I'll try it out on my MacBook Pro when I get back from vacation.
Yes, on vacation and still dorking around with the phone. The biggest challenge: finding where my girlfriend hid it after getting upset about where my attention has been focused.
Does using this program burn up you wireless minutes or do I need a special internet plan added to my account?
diterex said:
Does using this program burn up you wireless minutes or do I need a special internet plan added to my account?
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If you use it to share your internet access then you may be charged for your data usage depending on your service plan. If you don't have an unlimited data plan then you will be charged under most circumstances. On some older phone plans data usage is treated like phone minutes and nights and weekends are free.
I was talking to my sprint rep and they said if the phone is used as a modem then extra charges will be applied even though I have unlimited data. This program works around that?
diterex said:
I was talking to my sprint rep and they said if the phone is used as a modem then extra charges will be applied even though I have unlimited data. This program works around that?
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I do not know how they determine whether you are tethering or not so I can't say for sure. But, seeing as how I've been using this myself quite a bit, I'll find out when I get my next bill from Sprint.
Changes in v0.11
- Added auto-dialing to Connection Manager destinations
- Added private interface IP setting
- Fixed bugs involving the up/down controls.
- IMPORTANT: If you were using v0.1, some of your saved settings may be messed up. To fix this, press the Set All Defaults button at the bottom of the settings panel.
Wow, this is a great looking app, sort of like a free WMWifiRouter except free and much more powerful with tons of neat options. Keep up the great work, this app has real potential.
Have this program stopped working? I down loaded the file and try to open the exe. file but a window pops up saying the program have stopped working. Any ideas of what is going on? I am running windows vista if it helps any.
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Have this program stopped working? I down loaded the file and try to open the exe. file but a window pops up saying the program have stopped working. Any ideas of what is going on? I am running windows vista if it helps any.
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You need to run it on your PPC...
Just got a brand new "G2 Touch" from T-mobile, and found under:
Settings -> Wirless -> "Mobile Netzwerkfreigabe(aka Tethering?)"
If i check the box it deactivates the usb mass storage and a new device appears. Windows hasn't got drivers for this device. Someone any ideas, how to use this feature?
this post did it for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4246332&postcount=20
there's also a thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535404
the error on the phone is not entirely clear - it says drivers are on the SD card. According to HTC support, they are embedded in the HTCSync app, which I thought was just for Outlook syncing. Put it back into USB card mode, run the htcsync setup from the SD card, and try again
it worked for me in vista (i'd already installed the htcsync app on that machine so I don't know if the drivers were already part of vista or if the app installed them)
On my UK T-mobile HTC Hero I can confirm that the 'Tethering' option is there in Wireless>Settings, buried at the bottom as 'Mobile Network sharing'
It appears to work when you have the HTC Sync software installed on Windows, as described...
Now here's the £1million question.. anyone have any idea how to get a Tether enabled Hero to talk to Linux?
the windows drivers from htcsync are in the SDK
perhaps there are some linux ones in there also?
Just tested with gentoo, works with the normal rndis driver compiled in!
Thats perfect !
So I think it should work "out of the box" with the most Linux Distributions.
Just plugv in, and do an dhcp request on usb0 or usb1
yeah... <blush> I just tried this on my openSUSE 11.1 laptop and it worked strait away as USB0, no drivers, no installation, no problem....
I really should have tried it before posting!
And yet another bit of hardware that works more easily with Linux than Windows! ;-)
Interestingly, the Tethering isn't limited to the 'Mobile Networking' (aka 3G/HSDPA) connection.
If you have Wifi configured on your Hero, that is the connection the Tether will use, pretty nice if you want to Wifi-enable any device and save on your data limits.
yeah... when I was testing I got rather confused briefly as to why my computer still had its usual internet IP even though I'd disabled its network card (because it was connecting to the router via the phone's wireless)
slightly puzzingly, disabling mobile data disables the tethering option (even if it's going to end up using the wireless anyway). i'm sure there'll be someone with that specific use-case. But it's not me, so I'm happy
Is it possible to do this with android?
I am looking for a system which can make a windows pc remote controle an android phone, just like a bluetooth headset..
I want it to pick up call's as a minimum, but it would be cool if i can dial and make calls from the pc and receive/answer sms..
Does anybody know a program/app that can do this?
Over wifi or bluetooth.. Both can be used..
emregezgin said:
Is it possible to do this with android?
I am looking for a system which can make a windows pc remote controle an android phone, just like a bluetooth headset..
I want it to pick up call's as a minimum, but it would be cool if i can dial and make calls from the pc and receive/answer sms..
Does anybody know a program/app that can do this?
Over wifi or bluetooth.. Both can be used..
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You could try this: https://market.android.com/details?...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwibmV0LnhkZXZlbG9wLnJtIl0.
"Remote Phone Call" by JustRemotePhone
Hello,
We have developed an application which allows to call numbers on Android phones through a PC. The app also allows to pick up calls.
Look for the trail version of "Remote Phone Call" at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=justPhone.remotePhoneTrial or for the full version at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=justPhone.remotePhone
Since we have replaced our traditional office phones by mobile phones, we use our app every day by ourselves in conjunction with a Mono-Overhead-Bluetooth headset.
With the last version we have also a Microsoft Office integration for Outlook, Word and Excel. This integration allows calling of contacts, mail sender and recipients, numbers from editor text and Excel cell contents.
I hope this helps
Thomas.
[email protected]
You can try our new app, VMLite VNC Server, which allows you to control phones and tablets from a PC or from another device:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vmlite.vncserver&hl=en
Controll a call 100% from mac
Hi
I have tried the different apps in this thread. But nothing helps me with my problem.
The setup.
I have my phone at one place (Denmark) and my macbook pro at another (France). so they can not be cabled together and they are not on the same WIFI.
The functions i need.
Make phone call from my macbook
Answer phone call on my macbook
send sms from my macbook
The benefit
I can call my friends at the place where my phone is (Denmark) at normal danish tarifs with my normal danish number but from my computer at the second place (France).
Is google voice an option?
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No.
Im not sure that google voice can solve this problem
Thomas JRP said:
Hello,
We have developed an application which allows to call numbers on Android phones through a PC. The app also allows to pick up calls.
Look for the trail version of "Remote Phone Call" at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=justPhone.remotePhoneTrial or for the full version at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=justPhone.remotePhone
Since we have replaced our traditional office phones by mobile phones, we use our app every day by ourselves in conjunction with a Mono-Overhead-Bluetooth headset.
With the last version we have also a Microsoft Office integration for Outlook, Word and Excel. This integration allows calling of contacts, mail sender and recipients, numbers from editor text and Excel cell contents.
I hope this helps
Thomas.
[email protected]
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Just discovered this app tonight.. fantastic! With some additional tweaking I've managed to set it up so I can make and receive calls using the onboard speakers and microphone of my laptop. Here's how I did it in case anyone else wants to give it a try:
1. Download Remote Phone Call from the Market - I used the trial version to test this but will be getting the full one based on the results!
2. Install on your phone and laptop (Win 7 x64 in my case)
3. Connect using Bluetooth NOT wireless (in fact disable wireless connectivity in the Remote Phone Call app options on your phone)
4. Pair your phone (Galaxy Note 2 in my case) to your laptop over Bluetooth
5. Goto Control Panel, Devices and Printers.. you should see your phone here if you've paired it right
6. Right-Click it, click Properties, then the Services tab and tick them all. Click Apply
7. Windows will install the drivers it needs but will probably fail on Bluetooth Peripheral Device
Go here and follow the instructions - make sure you get the right version for your machine (32-bit driver / 64-bit driver).
There's also links for AMD CPU versions on the same page (scroll down to the bottom left)
8. Assuming you get the missing driver installed, start Remote Phone Call in Windows and click on the Bluetooth headset icon at the top (choose your laptop name from the list)
That should do it!
One request... if you could add a dialpad to the Windows app (for navigating IVR menus etc) that would make this even better!
Cheers
did you find this?
H-Aaen said:
Hi
I have tried the different apps in this thread. But nothing helps me with my problem.
The setup.
I have my phone at one place (Denmark) and my macbook pro at another (France). so they can not be cabled together and they are not on the same WIFI.
The functions i need.
Make phone call from my macbook
Answer phone call on my macbook
send sms from my macbook
The benefit
I can call my friends at the place where my phone is (Denmark) at normal danish tarifs with my normal danish number but from my computer at the second place (France).
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Hey,
Did you find a solution for this? I want to do the same and that would be amazing. I'm not able to find an app that can do this. I know it should work through a fixed IP of DYNS. The app 'remote phone call' is getting close, but still you can't call from the PC of Mac and also only from the same network.
Would be very nice if you found a sollution. I think this is what a lot of travellers are waiting for
Thanks,
Sven
kaiser2000 said:
Just discovered this app tonight.. fantastic! With some additional tweaking I've managed to set it up so I can make and receive calls using the onboard speakers and microphone of my laptop. Here's how I did it in case anyone else wants to give it a try:
1. Download Remote Phone Call from the Market - I used the trial version to test this but will be getting the full one based on the results!
2. Install on your phone and laptop (Win 7 x64 in my case)
3. Connect using Bluetooth NOT wireless (in fact disable wireless connectivity in the Remote Phone Call app options on your phone)
4. Pair your phone (Galaxy Note 2 in my case) to your laptop over Bluetooth
5. Goto Control Panel, Devices and Printers.. you should see your phone here if you've paired it right
6. Right-Click it, click Properties, then the Services tab and tick them all. Click Apply
7. Windows will install the drivers it needs but will probably fail on Bluetooth Peripheral Device
Go here and follow the instructions - make sure you get the right version for your machine (32-bit driver / 64-bit driver).
There's also links for AMD CPU versions on the same page (scroll down to the bottom left)
8. Assuming you get the missing driver installed, start Remote Phone Call in Windows and click on the Bluetooth headset icon at the top (choose your laptop name from the list)
That should do it!
One request... if you could add a dialpad to the Windows app (for navigating IVR menus etc) that would make this even better!
Cheers
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I cant make it work.. What bluetooth card do you have?? Broadcom right??
Do you know what chip it has? and where did you get the driver??
Thx so far... It looks like i am so close to my goal.. If i can make this work then my carpc will be perfect
MyPhoneExplorer
Why don't you guys try MyPhoneExplorer? Its simple, its decent, its lightening fast. Only drawback, you cannot talk on phone via PC. Rest all, it does.
On top of that its FREE!
Regards,
-D
kaiser2000 said:
Just discovered this app tonight.. fantastic! With some additional tweaking I've managed to set it up so I can make and receive calls using the onboard speakers and microphone of my laptop. Here's how I did it in case anyone else wants to give it a try:
[SNIP]
Cheers
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Hi kaiser2000, could you share which USD Bluetooth dongle you used? I've tried everything but can't make my desktop and my Android phone connect via bluetooth...
Mana
Airdroid will do most of the work
Teamviewer is also another app that can help
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"Remote Phone Call" by JustRemotePhone
I have an issue with this. I install PC software and apk. Connection is ok, but when I want to check Service status (service not running) I have error code 514 ( Your licence could not be verified...).
Anyone?
still looking
I know this is an old thread, but I destroyed google search all day long having the same problem.
Android Phone is in country A, I am in country B.
How can I make remote calls through WIFI?
I don't have Windows > only Ubuntu and MacOS with me in country B.
I have adb access to phone in country A, also fixed IP there.
Are there any solutions in 2020? I tried teamviewer but it doesnt route the audio over internet.
Check out Join.
Look for some sort of screen mirroring solution, something like https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy with remote adb?
So I got my SGS3 yesterday and noticed that the Android File Transfer app won't work, which used to work well when I owned a Galaxy Nexus. I tried it on 2 different Macs and it won't work on neither. The app does not recognize the phone being connected.
When I connected it on windows (bootcamp, same Mac) it was recognized, so it's not a hardware fail, it's a software bug.
My Q is, has anybody successfully managed to use the Android File Transfer app together with a Galaxy S3.
Thx, all the help greatly appreciated.
EDIT:
I just tried setting the USB Connection mode to Camera (PTP) and Android File Transfer now sees my phone. Everything is fine.
But, DAMN YOU SAMSUNG, code more carefully!
Thanks! This helped me out as well! Was worried something was wrong with my new phone .
enabling camera/PTP mode for usb connection
Hi, I am struggling with this problem of AFT not working with samsung S3. Could you elaborate on how and where to make this change in USB setting - is it on the camera or macbook pro?
aluvathingal said:
Hi, I am struggling with this problem of AFT not working with samsung S3. Could you elaborate on how and where to make this change in USB setting - is it on the camera or macbook pro?
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On your phone, when connected to the AFP program on your mac, you'll see a USB symbol in the notification area. Pull it down and you'll see it says something like 'Connected as media device' and it'll give you options underneath that to change it. Select that and you'll get to a settings page which will allow you to set your phone as a media device ((MTP) or as a camera (PTP) - do the latter and it should work fine.
I have to say, I love this phone but am not overly enamoured with the mac syncing aspect of it. Most apps in the store are flaky at best or don't work at all, TBH. Using the above method, I've managed to get my media over to the phone by dragging/dropping from iTunes and iPhoto.
Problem is, I still can't find a way for my computer to - reliably - see my phone as a camera when I plug it in e.g. invisible to iPhoto and Image capture.
If you find a way around my problem, please post it up. HTH.
get an app called airdroid (xfer via browser) or file expert & use a FTP program to transfer files from your Mac to the S3
I was going to say that it was another way that Apple is trying to boycot Samsung's phones along with all the suing going on lol.
RMXO said:
get an app called airdroid (xfer via browser) or file expert & use a FTP program to transfer files from your Mac to the S3
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Thanks for that. Had a look at Airdroid and it seems really slick. Pity though, as it has issues with external storage.
Never mind, I'm dragging/dropping stuff from iPhoto/iTunes to folders which I the keep in sync with CheetahSync. It's all a bit inelegant, but it does the job for now.
hey guys, i'm having an issue with the file transfer. Did what the OP stated above and I can see both internal memory and SD, but when i tried to drag and drop from Finder it is giving me an error, saying my screen is locked (even when it isn't) and asking me to reconnect. anyone else have this problem? for now i'm transferring using File Explorer but its a pain in the ass. thanks!
EDIT: really weird, first file i tried was an mp3 and it kept giving me an error, now i'm moving an avi and looks like its working. apologies
Still having trouble
I'm having serious trouble with AFT and tried what's been suggested here but it's still not working for me.
I've installed AFT on my MacBook (OS X Lion).
All that happens is in all tries is that when I plug in the S3, AFT simply says:
"Could not connect to device
Try reconnecting or restarting your device"
I tried both with no luck. I tried it with selecting Camera (PTP) mode and then with Media device (MTP) mode. No luck. I tried both with and without "USB debugging" selected. No luck. I tried reinstalling AFT. No luck. Restarting my MacBook. No luck.
Any ideas?
Don't connect it its mtp connect it as a camera
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Just a heads up. Installing AFT on my macbook air caused my usb to Ethernet dongles to stop working. AFT had to be removed to fix them. Applecare are aware and IIRC blame Google.
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Don't connect it its mtp connect it as a camera
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You're right as it doesn't seem to recognise the S3 at all when on MTP but AFT starts up each time I select PTP (i.e. my Mac recognises it when in the Camera mode) but I just end up getting the "Could not connect to device, Try reconnecting or restarting your device" message.
Strangely enough AFT needs the phone to be in camera mode to work.
But KIES for OSX needs the phone to be in MTP mode. I couldnt get wireless kies to work (but didnt try all that hard either)
well we've found another reason never to buy a mac
i dont have an s3 but i was googling this issue, i havent got a samsung device on ics working on my mac yet, my tf101 tablet just decided to work today after numerous errors about it not being connected.
AFT used to work, no longer does
Hi
I had this problem when I just got my Galaxy S3 at the end of May, and switching the connection mode to camera (ptp) did the trick. Now, however, regardless of the connection type I have chosen or whether or not I have enabled debugging, I cannot use AFT. At no point does it recognize my device, it just keeps telling me "No Android device found. Please connect your Android device with a USB cable to get started." I have reinstalled the program and still no luck.
Further info: I'm running 10.7.4 on an early 2011 15 inch MacBook Pro
Please help
Samsung changed something in firmware LFB that doesn't allow AFT to connect in MACs anymore.
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tanseerj said:
Samsung changed something in firmware LFB that doesn't allow AFT to connect in MACs anymore.
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Yeah, MTP never worked for me on my Macbook, while PTP worked as a workaround until LFB (and later). With LFB changing to PTP (by default) pops up Image Capture, which, if everything worked as it should, is what you'd expect I suppose. The problem is that Image Capture doesn't find any pictures on the device even though it recognises that an I9300 is connected - and Android File Manager now doesn't work in either MTP or PTP mode.
So I am not the only one not being able to transfer files using AFT? Or has someone figured it out?
Well I run KIES now and open the file browser that way. The only way I could make work on OSX. On windows I have no problems just connecting it and accessing.
I have this problem two samsung please fix this
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Should be easy as others have found this:
https://zepinventory.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/how-to-root-azpen-a727-tablet/
EDIT:
Must download the SDK for ADB drivers. No other generic ADB drivers worked. I tried a ton.
You can boot into stock Recovery by holding Volume+ when booting.
Google Root Genius. Worked like a charm on an AzpenA727 tablet. Had to try a couple of times but it was the simplest, quickest way to root. After rooting you'll have to go to the play store and get Root Checker and SU. To increase battery life get SetCPU which allows you to set CPU policy so that when the screen is off the cpu runs at a couple of hundred MHz, plus you can slow down the processor while it's in use also. Experiment to find the optimal settings between performance and battery life. You can also overclock the cpu but this may lockup the tablet. There are youtube videos explaining how to reset a locked up Android tablet.
I figured it out. I downloaded the SDK and used its drivers. Those were the only drivers that worked. None of my million ADB drivers worked in Android. So that did work. I actually manually pushed all the su files from adb shell. Just needed the missing link.
So follow the directions specifically.
Also, I'm rather impressed with the stock zippiness and battery life.
Microcenter is giving these away for $20. Worth every penny. I already have a Nexus 7 2013 and a HiSense Sero Pro. Couldn't pass up.
After I rooted. I installed Xposed and Gravity box. The screen sucks but I found lighter colors are better because the horrible viewing angles distort the darker colors. Changed the status/nav bar to white and its Much better.
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Thanks for the information folks. I just got one a few days ago from Microcenter as well. I was unhappy to find I could not set the External SD as the default download location for applications. Nor can I move apps to the external SD. I called customer service and was told the device was not able to do that because of how the developer set it up. Upon hear that I figured someone here if not a few would know how to do that. I'd really appreciate the information. Thanks
is there 4.4 for this tablet or any way to make it look like its 4.4
No 4.4 upgrade, but there's an app to make it look like it.
haldi15 said:
is there 4.4 for this tablet or any way to make it look like its 4.4
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There's no 4.4 upgrade for it. If you install the Xposed framework and Gravity Box, there is an Android 4.4 KitKat app in the Play Store that claims to make it look like 4.4. I haven't tried it yet, and can't say how well it does.
The Xposed installer is here: http://dl.xposed.info/latest.apk
There's a thread on XDA Developers discussing a Gravity Box version for Jellybean here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-gravitybox-v2-9-1-tweak-box-android-t2316070
There are a boatload of Xposed addons in the Play store.
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Lexx Diamond said:
Thanks for the information folks. I just got one a few days ago from Microcenter as well. I was unhappy to find I could not set the External SD as the default download location for applications. Nor can I move apps to the external SD. I called customer service and was told the device was not able to do that because of how the developer set it up. Upon hear that I figured someone here if not a few would know how to do that. I'd really appreciate the information. Thanks
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Yeah, limited System Memory on this device is the biggest PITA.
There's an app on the Play Store called FolderMount that looks like it might be able to address the problem. (At a guess, it's creating symlinks pointing to the external card.) A search for FolderMount reveals several similar apps.
I have FolderMount downloaded, but haven't played with it yet. I want to make sure I understand the implications before I fiddle.
Curious to see how you make out with the folder mount bit. I just picked one of these up from Microcenter with coupon to get it for $20 and was wondering the same thing... but I'd rather not be the guinea pig
P.S. Used method in OP link to root no problem (Kingo method)
DMcCunney said:
There's no 4.4 upgrade for it. If you install the Xposed framework and Gravity Box, there is an Android 4.4 KitKat app in the Play Store that claims to make it look like 4.4. I haven't tried it yet, and can't say how well it does.
The Xposed installer is here: http://dl.xposed.info/latest.apk
There's a thread on XDA Developers discussing a Gravity Box version for Jellybean here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-gravitybox-v2-9-1-tweak-box-android-t2316070
There are a boatload of Xposed addons in the Play store.
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Yeah, limited System Memory on this device is the biggest PITA.
There's an app on the Play Store called FolderMount that looks like it might be able to address the problem. (At a guess, it's creating symlinks pointing to the external card.) A search for FolderMount reveals several similar apps.
I have FolderMount downloaded, but haven't played with it yet. I want to make sure I understand the implications before I fiddle.
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Curious to see how you make out with the folder mount bit. I just picked one of these up from Microcenter with coupon to get it for $20 and was wondering the same thing... but I'd rather not be the guinea pig
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Where did you get yours? In my case, they opened locations in Brooklyn and Queens in NYC, and the Brooklyn store was a convenient subway trip for me.
If FolderMount is creating symlinks (and it's hard to imagine what else it could be doing), it shouldn't be too dangerous. You can get a system mightily confused with symlinks, but what you want to do here is mount a directory on /mnt/extsd to an appropriate location in the root file system.
I have to look around some more, as FolderMount seems to be sparsely documented. I want to make sure I understand what it's doing.
The other thing I don't know yet is external keyboard support. The device doesn't have Bluetooth, so a USB keyboard would be required. The FAQ says it can't use one, but I don't know it that's a limitation of the factory install that can be addressed by rooting, or if it's a hardware issue and USB host mode simply isn't supported, (Like no Bluetoioth, that may be a "design to cost" move.)
The device is useful enough as is that I'll live if I can't use a keyboard with it, but it would be nice. If nothing else, it's a good way to learn about Android in preparation for the sort of device I plan to get down the road.
Meanwhile, I've been having fun, and it's certainly worth what I paid for it.
Agree, totally worth the $20 even if I use it for nothing else than letting the kids watch netflix and play angry birds.
Got mine at the Long Island Microcenter.
I also found this thread which talks about swapping the mount points of sdcard and extsd but I dunno if I'm ready to take that step
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263436
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Where did you get yours? In my case, they opened locations in Brooklyn and Queens in NYC, and the Brooklyn store was a convenient subway trip for me.
If FolderMount is creating symlinks (and it's hard to imagine what else it could be doing), it shouldn't be too dangerous. You can get a system mightily confused with symlinks, but what you want to do here is mount a directory on /mnt/extsd to an appropriate location in the root file system.
I have to look around some more, as FolderMount seems to be sparsely documented. I want to make sure I understand what it's doing.
The other thing I don't know yet is external keyboard support. The device doesn't have Bluetooth, so a USB keyboard would be required. The FAQ says it can't use one, but I don't know it that's a limitation of the factory install that can be addressed by rooting, or if it's a hardware issue and USB host mode simply isn't supported, (Like no Bluetoioth, that may be a "design to cost" move.)
The device is useful enough as is that I'll live if I can't use a keyboard with it, but it would be nice. If nothing else, it's a good way to learn about Android in preparation for the sort of device I plan to get down the road.
Meanwhile, I've been having fun, and it's certainly worth what I paid for it.
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Swapping mount points
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Agree, totally worth the $20 even if I use it for nothing else than letting the kids watch netflix and play angry birds.
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My use case is eBook viewer. I have a lot of eBooks. I had been reading them on a Palm TX (yes, I still use a Palm OS PDA), but a bigger screen and more storage capacity is nice. I use the Android version of FBReader, an open source program by a Russian developer. It handles both Mobi (Amazon Kindle) and ePub (B&N Nook, Kobo Reader) formats, and I have books in both forms. (It doesn't handle DRM, but I don't get DRM protected books.)
I use a beta Android port of VLC for video, with video files stored on the external card.
Got mine at the Long Island Microcenter.
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Didn't know they'd open one there. Where is it on LI?
I also found this thread which talks about swapping the mount points of sdcard and extsd but I dunno if I'm ready to take that step
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263436
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Thanks for the pointer. I'll go and look.
I'm an old *nix admin, who started on AT&T System V Unix long before Linux existed, so I grasp the concepts, and I've done stuff like that on larger machines. I just proceed very carefully. I prefer not to shoot myself in both feet...
This one, it's been there for years: http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/westbury.aspx
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Didn't know they'd open one there. Where is it on LI?
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I might try the mount point thing tomorrow. In theory it shouldn't break too much since it wouldn't be touching the system partition.
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Didn't know they'd open one there. Where is it on LI?
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Merrick Ave. in Westbury. It's been there for at least 10 years.
Got my tablet yesterday as well, but can't seem to get either my Linux box or my Windows laptop to recognize it in ADB.
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I might try the mount point thing tomorrow. In theory it shouldn't break too much since it wouldn't be touching the system partition.
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The question is what you'll gain.
The scarce resource is System Memory. There's 787MB of it, and 1GB seen as SDcard. That hack lets you vastly expand the area seen as SDcard, but that's not the problem.
With my current set of apps loaded, and everything that can live on the SDcard moved there, the A727 thinks I have 118MB of System Memory free, and 728MB of the SDcard. I need more System Memory, but I don't believe that hack will provide it.
I'm still figuring out how the tablet divides up resources. I already had a case where there was a Google+ app upgrade, but it wouldn't install without a Google Play Services upgrade, and that wouldn't install because there was insufficient system memory. (How much system memory it wanted wasn't mentioned.) The fix was to uninstall Chrome (which can't be on the card.) That freed sufficient system memory to let me install the Google Play Services and the Google+ updates. After that, I could re-install Chrome. (I use Firefox as my usual browser, so could live without Chrome if need be, and Firefox can be moved to the card.)
If I can implement a hack that increases System Memory, I'll be a happy camper.
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Merrick Ave. in Westbury. It's been there for at least 10 years.
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My S.O. used to live in Bellmore, but I haven't had cause to be on LI for years. I missed MicroCenter opening there.
Got my tablet yesterday as well, but can't seem to get either my Linux box or my Windows laptop to recognize it in ADB.
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Which flavor of Windows? The rooting method I used apparently can't be done from Linux.
I grabbed the 32bit version of the Android SDK, but couldn't get Windows to recognize the tablet from XP. It claimed it couldn't find the software to install the drivers, even though they were where I pointed. I grabbed the 64 bit version of the SDK and tried again from the SO's Win7 laptop, and it worked. From there, I could use Kingo Root to root the device.
Rooted, now can't connect to Internet
Went yesterday the new Microcenter in Flushing (actually Kew Garden HIlls) and Got the A727.
It worked fine with the store's wifi. Rooted it this morning now can't connect to internet at all through my home wifi. Other devices connect fine and I get a good private IP address on the A727, but I get the message " web page not available" in the browser and no other app can connect to the internet .
I tried everything including resetting, unrooting, restarting, turning off developer, nothing works.
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You're probably connecting to your network but not authenticating.
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Went yesterday the new Microcenter in Flushing (actually Kew Garden HIlls) and Got the A727.
It worked fine with the store's wifi. Rooted it this morning now can't connect to internet at all through my home wifi. Other devices connect fine and I get a good private IP address on the A727, but I get the message " web page not available" in the browser and no other app can connect to the internet .
I tried everything including resetting, unrooting, restarting, turning off developer, nothing works.
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I don't think rooting has anything to do with it. My A727 connected fine with my home network before and after rooting. In your case, it worked fine at the store because they run an open network with no authentication required.
What router do you have, and what security do you use? In my case, it's a Belkin router, and I use WPA2 encryption.
If I had to make a guess, your A727 is connecting to your network, but your network wants you to authenticate with a password, and you aren't seeing it.
Tap Settings, and select Wifi. If Wifi is off, you'll be prompted to turn it on. When Wifi is on, the A727 will scan for networks and display those it sees in range. Do you see your network SSID? Tap on it. You ought to be able to get to a place where you can provide your network password and properly authenticate.
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I don't think rooting has anything to do with it. My A727 connected fine with my home network before and after rooting. In your case, it worked fine at the store because they run an open network with no authentication required.
What router do you have, and what security do you use? In my case, it's a Belkin router, and I use WPA2 encryption.
If I had to make a guess, your A727 is connecting to your network, but your network wants you to authenticate with a password, and you aren't seeing it.
Tap Settings, and select Wifi. If Wifi is off, you'll be prompted to turn it on. When Wifi is on, the A727 will scan for networks and display those it sees in range. Do you see your network SSID? Tap on it. You ought to be able to get to a place where you can provide your network password and properly authenticate.
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I use connectify on Windows 8.1 as the internet source.
I don't think it's an authentication issue. When I deliberately enter a wrong password authentication takes forever and connectify says no cliet connected. when I put the correct password it connects almost emmidietly and says 1 client connected, but still not able to load web pages or have any other app connect to the internet.
Try using an actual wireless router
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I use connectify on Windows 8.1 as the internet source.
I don't think it's an authentication issue. When I deliberately enter a wrong password authentication takes forever and connectify says no cliet connected. when I put the correct password it connects almost emmidietly and says 1 client connected, but still not able to load web pages or have any other app connect to the internet.
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Hmmm. So your Win 8.1 box connects directly to your ISP feed, and you use Connectify to create a wifi hotspot and the Windows box as a wireless router?
According to Techend, at http://techzend.com/create-ad-hoc-wifi-hotspot-windows-81/ "I have read that many Android phones do not support ad-hoc connections, created by tools like connectify.", and you might be running into one of those cases. My wifi router isn't creating an ad hoc network, and I had no problems connecting to it with the A727 before or after routing.
You may need to get an honest-to-God external wireless router instead of trying to get your Windows machine to serve the purpose. (I'd recommend that in any case - your machine should be behind your router, not serving as your router.)
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Hmmm. So your Win 8.1 box connects directly to your ISP feed, and you use Connectify to create a wifi hotspot and the Windows box as a wireless router?
According to Techend, at http://techzend.com/create-ad-hoc-wifi-hotspot-windows-81/ "I have read that many Android phones do not support ad-hoc connections, created by tools like connectify.", and you might be running into one of those cases. My wifi router isn't creating an ad hoc network, and I had no problems connecting to it with the A727 before or after routing.
You may need to get an honest-to-God external wireless router instead of trying to get your Windows machine to serve the purpose. (I'd recommend that in any case - your machine should be behind your router, not serving as your router.)
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Yes, my 8.1 is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet. I don't need a router because I don't connect other devices that often.
Connectify can create an encrypted access point, so that's not the issue. my Galaxy note 2 can connect withouth a problem to it, but not the ad-hoc.
Like I said, you may need a real router
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Yes, my 8.1 is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet. I don't need a router because I don't connect other devices that often
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can b used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Connectify can create an encrypted access point, so that's not the issue. my Galaxy note 2 can connect without a problem to it, but not the ad-hoc.
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Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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Yes, my 8.1 is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet. I don't need a router because I don't connect other devices that often
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can be used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Connectify can create an encrypted access point, so that's not the issue. my Galaxy note 2 can connect without a problem to it, but not the ad-hoc.
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Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can b used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can be used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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Thanks, but nevertheless I'd like a solution to this issue. I will try with a regular hotspot to see if that makes a difference.