[Q] Rezound problems with call quality, advice please? - HTC Rezound

I got my rezound on Dec 3rd at Amazon Wireless during that 1 cent sale.
The first one had some issues, so since then I've had 1 replacement.
I know its past the date of no return, but curious what my options would be, and what you guys think I should do.
People constantly complain that my voice is cut off often, and/or muddled, yet the always sound good to me. At this point i'm thinking its a signal issue. I have the extended battery and this problem gets worse when i'm using it.
So, tonight the fiance tells me that my phone is low, to speak up, blah blah. Well I am speaking up and its frustrating. These are issues that one shouldnt have to deal with on a new device.
My previous phones: Motorola Rokr (I think), LG Chocolate, Motorola Droid, and the HTC Incredible didnt know exhibit these issues at all, and I never once had anyone complain in the last 5 years till I got the HTC Rezound.
I'm holding the phone in multiple ways, making sure not to cover any holes.
What would you do? Is the only thing I have available to me is going through Amazon Wireless for a refurb? Or is this a build quality that I will experience again and again. BTW, I live in a city, with excellent 4g coverage, and I know a neighbor has a new Moto Razr with 0 issues, and he rubs it in quite often.
Thanks for any advice you have to offer.
Update: Well I got my Razr Maxx and have played with it a few hours. Anything I say is just my opinion, so don't shoot me.
The Maxx's call quality is better, and the callers said I sound much more clearer than any of my other phones (Chocolate Touch, Incredible, Rezound). I'm getting a bit better signal (dbm) here at my place, but I care about the quality of my calls and my data connection the most, and they are doing fine.
The camera isnt as bad as ive been reading in the reviews. The pictures i've taken are lacking a tad bit of sharpness that the Rezound had. This could be fixed via a 3rd party app. Will look into it.
The UI is about as smooth. But the wallpaper in Motoblur scrolls with the screen and it still keeps the smoothness. I installed Go Launcher EX and its as smooth as the incredible for me. On the Rezound Go launcher was fairly blah performance wise.
Smart actions rock. I usually use Tasker and smart actions does enough that I won't be loading tasker until I see a need.
The display, well, nothing beats the Rezounds display. HD movies on the Maxx are decent, but not as sharp as the Rezound. I believe the Rezound has 90 PPI or so on the Maxx and you can tell.
The speaker for music sounds decent, with a bit more bass (on a speaker that small, not sure you want to call it bass), and sounds pretty good.
Battery Life is great, but with a 3300 mah battery, what do you expect. I already set a smartaction for 12:30am to 7:00am to turn off wifi, data, turn on airplane mode (wasnt sure if airplane on this phone would disable wifi), and a few other things. Good stuff, but nothing that a third party can't do.
Motoblur seems to have apps to do Remote Desktop, and DLNA works fine with my WDLIVEPLUS box.
I've already rooted, and froze some Verizon Apps.
I know this is a Rezound forum and you are probably asking "Why is he talking about a dang Maxx?!" A few pm'ed me to just compare the two phones once I got it. I won't be doing a review or anything

i'd check to make sure the antenna contacts on the extended battery cover are making a secure connection with the phone. possibly try applying a slight amount of electrical grease to each contact.

Update: I'm on my third Rezound now, and all have had the problem with my voice periodically not being heard or muffled to the person I am calling.
I'm baffled as to why I am having these issues.
A customer service rep actually advised me to activate my old Incredible on my line (and give up my unlimited 4g) until HTC has a fix for my problems. Yea right.
I wrote a long letter to Verizon, and if I don't hear back from them today I'll be contacting Corporate.
I'll try to get into another phone I suppose, but I don't like my choices: GNexus (crappy signal), Razr (crappy battery). There is the Razr Maxx, but I'm sure they wont even offer to replace me with that.
*Sigh*

dccoh said:
Update: I'm on my third Rezound now, and all have had the problem with my voice periodically not being heard or muffled to the person I am calling.
I'm baffled as to why I am having these issues.
A customer service rep actually advised me to activate my old Incredible on my line (and give up my unlimited 4g) until HTC has a fix for my problems. Yea right.
I wrote a long letter to Verizon, and if I don't hear back from them today I'll be contacting Corporate.
I'll try to get into another phone I suppose, but I don't like my choices: GNexus (crappy signal), Razr (crappy battery). There is the Razr Maxx, but I'm sure they wont even offer to replace me with that.
*Sigh*
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The update that came out fixed voice issues...
Did you update?
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nosympathy said:
The update that came out fixed voice issues...
Did you update?
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Yes, I did the OTA on two of the replacement phones. I still had the problem before and after. Thanks for looking out though.

Yet another update: I talked to verizon support again about my Rezound and the issues. They offered me a Thunderbolt, Charge, Bionic, or a Revolution.
I told them that I would take no less than a Nexus or Droid Maxx at this point. He said that those phones are not on his list. The phones he offered are a big step down from the Rezound, so I declined. Not sure what to do at this point, but I did ask him to escalate this (he was a supervisor) and he put in a ticket to have it escalated.
If anyone ever has any advice regarding my situation, please feel free to chime in.
I'll post as my saga continues, even though I'm sure no one really cares

Hmmm. I'm interested. My wife says I sound muffled at times when I'm on the rezound. I never thought of it as an actual phone issue.
My experience with this is
1. Seems to be when I'm on speaker.
2. Never happens when I'm using ear piece.
3. Updated radio and it since hasn't happened but once when on speaker.
Good luck!
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dccoh said:
I'll post as my saga continues, even though I'm sure no one really cares
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Thanks for fighting the good fight.
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reggie cheeks said:
Hmmm. I'm interested. My wife says I sound muffled at times when I'm on the rezound. I never thought of it as an actual phone issue.
My experience with this is
1. Seems to be when I'm on speaker.
2. Never happens when I'm using ear piece.
3. Updated radio and it since hasn't happened but once when on speaker.
Good luck!
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You could be experiencing similiar hardware issues, or possibly something to do with the noise canceling microphone. I wish you luck though since I know this muffled sound problem can be annoying, but at least i'm not alone (although i've only heard of 2 other people with similar issues).

Feb 3rd Update: Talked to Verizon yet again about my muffled sound issues. I received an email from HTC today asking me to have Verizon re-provision my account, update my prl (i was on 15098 and Verizon updated me to the same 15098), and to try a new sim card.
None of the fixes have worked. The Verizon tech called my phone as a test and within 10 seconds it started happening. I made her away of my escalation call from last night, and she said it could take a week or so for a return call since the escalation would involve a Director of something.
She credited my account $50 for my issues thus far, and is going to call me back at the end of the day as a follow-up.
*Sign* The Saga continues, but I want a plot twist where I can a working phone that I don't have to forward calls to my third line. (at least my old LG Chocolate Touch still works fine).

Really, dumb question.. are you holding the phone to far up your face. What I mean, I came from the OG droid and it was much smaller phone so when I started using the Rezound I thought the sound was way to low, people couldn't hear me ..etc.. I found I was holding the phone to high on my face so the speakers were above my ear and my microphone was almost by my upper lip. I adjusted how I held the phone and haven't had any issues since.

mjh68 said:
Really, dumb question.. are you holding the phone to far up your face. What I mean, I came from the OG droid and it was much smaller phone so when I started using the Rezound I thought the sound was way to low, people couldn't hear me ..etc.. I found I was holding the phone to high on my face so the speakers were above my ear and my microphone was almost by my upper lip. I adjusted how I held the phone and haven't had any issues since.
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I have tried holding the phone in multiple different ways. I have to admit, I feel stupid having to try holding it different ways since its a...well...phone.
I've recorded my own calls to myself via google voice to test it out, and the 'muddled' issue happens via speaker, or a normal call. I have even held the phone 2 inches in front of my mouth directly and callers will still complain of not being able to hear me or understand me. I have also tested different things like putting my finger over the noise canceling microphone with no change in my problems.
Thanks for the question though. I'm convinced that i've been subjected to Gamma Radiation without my knowledge and thats why i'm having phone issues. In that case, I hope that Verizon fixes this soon with a resolution or a different phone, because they wont like me when i'm angry.

Both of mine have done this, before and after the OTA.
This is the problem when phone companies are so crazy about getting the latest and greatest out the door to beat the competition. All they care about are sales. As long as it is working 90%, just push it out the door, and by the time people are pissed off you will be selling the next phone.
These phones don't get much QC testing, that much is certain. How many of the issues over the years would have been obvious if someone actually just carried the phone around and used it for just a single day? Most of them, I wager.

dccoh said:
I have tried holding the phone in multiple different ways. I have to admit, I feel stupid having to try holding it different ways since its a...well...phone.
I've recorded my own calls to myself via google voice to test it out, and the 'muddled' issue happens via speaker, or a normal call. I have even held the phone 2 inches in front of my mouth directly and callers will still complain of not being able to hear me or understand me. I have also tested different things like putting my finger over the noise canceling microphone with no change in my problems.
Thanks for the question though. I'm convinced that i've been subjected to Gamma Radiation without my knowledge and thats why i'm having phone issues. In that case, I hope that Verizon fixes this soon with a resolution or a different phone, because they wont like me when i'm angry.
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Don't think this has been mentioned or not, but have you tried talking through a bluetooth? Just curious. That would rule out a mic issue if it still persists even talking through bluetooth. Then I would say you are having network issues?
Good luck

hinds73 said:
Don't think this has been mentioned or not, but have you tried talking through a bluetooth? Just curious. That would rule out a mic issue if it still persists even talking through bluetooth. Then I would say you are having network issues?
Good luck
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I can say that I have talked on bluetooth about 10%-15% of the time and I don't get complaints. Then again my phone sits in one spot, and maintains signal better? The reason I did not test this thoroughly is because the option of talking on bluetooth only well isnt an option.
I know that is not what you were hinting at, but I feel its a device issue and not a network, but don't quote me on that.

SquireSCA said:
Both of mine have done this, before and after the OTA.
This is the problem when phone companies are so crazy about getting the latest and greatest out the door to beat the competition. All they care about are sales. As long as it is working 90%, just push it out the door, and by the time people are pissed off you will be selling the next phone.
These phones don't get much QC testing, that much is certain. How many of the issues over the years would have been obvious if someone actually just carried the phone around and used it for just a single day? Most of them, I wager.
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You are had two do this? So you know my pain!
Do you still have the phone and does it still do it?
I agree totally that these phones don't get tested enough and are sent out the door. At this point honestly, despite how much I love the phone, I'd rather have something else.
I told them I don't want another 3-4 phones sent to me. I'm really pushing for a new handset at this point, a different brand totally.
Anyway I wish you luck also. I'll keep this thread updated so that other's like myself (that are beyond the return window wherever you bought it) can hear about my trials and tribulations.

Finale: After over a dozen calls and 7+ hours on the phone with verizon, along with sending out emails to the CEO, Regional Manager, Relations, and all major executives, I received a call today from one.
To make this short, Razr Maxx is on the way, and will be here this week. Verizon Wireless could of made this easier, instead of making unrealistic guidelines for some customer issues.
When I was with Alltel I swear I would of had such an easier time with the customer service. I do not ever remember having to jump through hoops just to come to an agreement.
For any following my plight, Thanks for reading and for the helpful pms.

Good luck with your new phone.
Post back how you like it, I'm honestly curious.
I have two coworkers that have the original RAZR and absolutely hate them, but one of their main complaints is the awful battery life on a battery you can't swap out.

jmorton10 said:
Good luck with your new phone.
Post back how you like it, I'm honestly curious.
I have two coworkers that have the original RAZR and absolutely hate them, but one of their main complaints is the awful battery life on a battery you can't swap out.
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I'm a network admin and have a few guys at work that have a razr maxx, a nexus, and a revolution.
They usually say that the maxx has done the best for signal in and about different buildings (on server platforms with a ton of computer equipment etc). They said with generous use of the Smart Actions feature, and with generous moderate use, they get 2 days. They always seem to have a phone in their hand (they say) so im not sure what moderate use is to them (all network engineers etc). The nexus guy says his battery is gone before 5, and he often cant make calls in these random buildings. The lg revolution guy says he hates his signal and battery life, and that lg is taking forever with update and fixes.
Of course user experiences differ from person to person, so I too am curious on how the Maxx will fare with me. I'm extremely critical on my phones, and a very moderate use person (1+hours a day in calls, facebook &twitter updated every 15, emails pushed, streaming music 1-2 hours a day, games 1+hours a day, etc).
Look for a comparison here after ive had it a day or two, and will compare it to the 2+months that i've had the Rezound.

I updated the OP with my few hours of experience with my Maxx (the replacement for my 3 Rezounds).

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Has/Will Verizon Offered Anything To Their Customers?

Question.....
And yes, I know it's Verizon, but we might as well ask...
When I started working T-Mobile TS it was just after the HP IPAQ mess where the software issues with WM software - it being so new and not really tested that the phone hardware eventually died out based on the number of crashes and restarts required throughout the day.
After about 3 or 4 months T-Mobile started to offer customers who owned the IPAQ and experienced the issues a replacement/upgrade at either a heavy discount or completely free depending on how often the customer account referenced them calling to get help or report an issue. This offer was to (1) get the phone out of people's hands and into the rubbish bin, (2) reduce the number of TS calls daily, (3) end the regular hassle of dealing with MS and HP on patches and fixes, and (4) to improve customer care. Note the customer is last there as the others were costing them more money than the customer's they lost based on the problems probably thanks to their early term fee.
I bought the ERIS basically for 2 reasons - (1) IMHO HTC kicks Moto's and Apple's butts on phones, (2) I want ANDROID. I had a MyTouch with T-Mobile just before coming to Verizon and was looking into upgrading to HTC's new phone over there instead of changing carriers. I checked out the Hero and Samsung's Android phone with Sprint. I was a dedicated and loyal Blackberry user for 5+ years defending and promoting their devices, working on software development within TMO, and went through direct RIM training on BES, BIS, their handheld sw, and thier hw configurations.
SO - does anyone know or has heard anything about Verizon offering us a way to move to the Incredible?
This is probably in the wrong section since it has nothing to do with dev.
What is wrong with the Eris that it requires mass replacement?
I have heard of a few isolated cases where people had been offered an upgrade to the Incredible, but its probably the squeaky wheel getting the grease and someone trying to get the customer out of their face in the Verizon store.
Absolutely!! Wait until the end of your 2 year, or cough up about $500. The Eris really dont seem to have as many of the issues that other phones have had in the past. I havent had any problems with mine on 1.5, root 2.1 or any of the other roms I've tried.
Yep, say what you want about it. But its hands down the BEST phone I've ever owned, and I've had a cell phone plan since 1997.
A little root, a little OC, and a custom ROM. What more could you want?
I see you posted this exact same thing on android forums. Being a tech for VZW, we haven't seen a huge influx of calls or tickets about any particular issue; but i'm also not denying the fact that there are some common bugs that people are seeing but it's not near as many as it appears. Any software problems will most likely be corrected in a MR as is the general practice.
Danimal, can you drop a few more details on the bugs. My wife has an eris and has been pretty frustrated by dropped calls, lockups and blank screens ever since the 2.1 Ota hit her phone (not rooted). She's called support several times, The techs have been pretty decent, but it's still not fixed. The last guy she talked to actually suggested that she try rooting and overclocking.
I haven't had any problems at all on my eris and I'm using leaked v3. My girlfriend has the same phone (ota 2.1) and she complains about the phone randomly calling people but I think she just doesn't put the lock on. Other than that its the best phone I've ever had. Can't wait for my upgrade though and get that moto phone with a 2ghz processor they are coming out with.
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I'd like to know what Motorola phone that is with a 2ghz processor. Maybe your talking about the motorola extreme?
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I think that's it. Not 100% on the name. Anyways, insanely fast for a phone. Lets see apple compete with that.
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IlKYoSuKElI said:
I'd like to know what Motorola phone that is with a 2ghz processor. Maybe your talking about the motorola extreme?
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Nah, there has been no official announcement of any 2 Ghz phone. The Droid X or Extreme is like a regular Droid minus the keyboard plus some steroids. Moto's CEO or whoever said it, said he would love to ship a 2 Ghz phone by the end of the year. Who knows if it is realistic, I don't think it is. First someone needs to ship a phone with the snapdragon 1.5 Ghz dual-core processor that's already out, then go from there.
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I see you posted this exact same thing on android forums. Being a tech for VZW, we haven't seen a huge influx of calls or tickets about any particular issue; but i'm also not denying the fact that there are some common bugs that people are seeing but it's not near as many as it appears. Any software problems will most likely be corrected in a MR as is the general practice.
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There have been MANY complaints about a sound problem with the ERIS and I am one of those poor soles. The sound on my ERIS just stops working at random. Can't hear it ring when someone calls me, when I make a call i can't hear it ringing.. they will answer but I can't hear them speaking, also it has incredibly low media sound volume. If I reboot the phone it will work for a short time then mess up again. This problem is posted all over the Android Forums. Some people have no problems with the sound. It may be a bad batch? I have spoken to Verizon tech support several times and they are letting me get a new phone.. hopfully that will solve the problem??
So if I get this straight...
This post is about exploiting the problems with the eris to get a free upgrade to the Incredible...
Sounds a little wrong to me....
But if you get a free Incredible out of it...
Worth it?
I guess I wouldn't mind.
marcunwired said:
Danimal, can you drop a few more details on the bugs. My wife has an eris and has been pretty frustrated by dropped calls, lockups and blank screens ever since the 2.1 Ota hit her phone (not rooted). She's called support several times, The techs have been pretty decent, but it's still not fixed. The last guy she talked to actually suggested that she try rooting and overclocking.
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I would try using a task manager of some kind or another. Advanced Task Killer or Task Panel are good in my book. You can setup certain apps on an auto kill list , and ignore list. That helped mine out, but from my understanding is that There were a fews issues that did come up after the OTA. You can try rooting the phone, but if you don't know what you are doing you can cause more problems than it's worth. I would try using a task manager, and get rid of some apps that have duplicate functions.
My girlfriends blew her speaker on her eris but I think that was just from listening to pandora on full blast constantly.
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jonscapri said:
I would try using a task manager of some kind or another. Advanced Task Killer or Task Panel are good in my book. You can setup certain apps on an auto kill list , and ignore list. That helped mine out, but from my understanding is that There were a fews issues that did come up after the OTA. You can try rooting the phone, but if you don't know what you are doing you can cause more problems than it's worth. I would try using a task manager, and get rid of some apps that have duplicate functions.
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I would not use any task managers on Android, they adversely effect system performance. See the following link for more detailed information on why: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Exploit? No ... Get my Wife a Smartphone that works, Yes!
But I'm only speaking for me, not the OP.
comptontravis said:
So if I get this straight...
This post is about exploiting the problems with the eris to get a free upgrade to the Incredible...
Sounds a little wrong to me....
But if you get a free Incredible out of it...
Worth it?
I guess I wouldn't mind.
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SPEAKERPHONE: Anyone having others complain?

First, I love my 3vo, not getting sg2 or anything else silly but I was wondering if anyone else has had their callers constantly complain that they couldn't hear them if they were on speakerphone.
Cheers!
Could you please rephrase the question?I wan't to help but your question isn't very clear.
no, people can hear me just fine when I'm on speakerphone.
now on the other hand, I have a heck of a time hearing them, need some volume hack action to get my speaker volume up to par.
Marc79SLC said:
First, I love my 3vo, not getting sg2 or anything else silly but I was wondering if anyone else has had their callers constantly complain that they couldn't hear them if they were on speakerphone.
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Maybe, I dunno...I can't hear them when it's on speakerphone.
daneurysm said:
Maybe, I dunno...I can't hear them when it's on speakerphone.
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Dan,have you downloaded Equalizer from the market place and jacked up the audio? I have and my back speaker is a lot louder than stock..Too loud and the speaker quality is horrible but you can boost it with that app.
BrianBaker said:
Dan,have you downloaded Equalizer from the market place and jacked up the audio? I have and my back speaker is a lot louder than stock..Too loud and the speaker quality is horrible but you can boost it with that app.
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Thanks for the tip, but, this puppy will be on it's way back home once my 4G charges back up. There were just too many irritating 'little things' wrong. The lack of a clear plan for root/s-off from HTC just made it unbearable. While the EQ app would help that one minor annoyance there are far too many other things that might be correctable with software--who knows. These were all things my 4G did perfectly.
No we're going to get people hating on those telling how they returned their phone, and then threads about everybody that returned their phone and then threads about people who hate threads about people who returned their phone even though previously they would all post threads saying "so just return your phone", hating on people who posted about returning their phone.
Nvrmind, I'll just start a new thread about it...lol
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Thanks for the tip, but, this puppy will be on it's way back home once my 4G charges back up. There were just too many irritating 'little things' wrong. The lack of a clear plan for root/s-off from HTC just made it unbearable. While the EQ app would help that one minor annoyance there are far too many other things that might be correctable with software--who knows. These were all things my 4G did perfectly.
No we're going to get people hating on those telling how they returned their phone, and then threads about everybody that returned their phone and then threads about people who hate threads about people who returned their phone even though previously they would all post threads saying "so just return your phone", hating on people who posted about returning their phone.
Nvrmind, I'll just start a new thread about it...lol
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Hey man its your money and your phone..Do what you think is best for your purchase..Just spreading the tip out there that there is a way to easily boost the audio..I was actually going to return it for that very reason(back speaker too low) But that App(equalizer) did the trick.
It still sucks when it comes to playing music but for movie audio,voice mails and speaker phone its an A+..Wish I had the Evo 4G speaker but I also wish my Evo 4G took 3D Pictures and video..So screw the music,i'll just wear head phones.
Enjoy what ever phone you go to man,have a nice night.
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Hey man its your money and your phone..Do what you think is best for your purchase..Just spreading the tip out there that there is a way to easily boost the audio..I was actually going to return it for that very reason(back speaker too low) But that App(equalizer) did the trick.
It still sucks when it comes to playing music but for movie audio,voice mails and speaker phone its an A+..Wish I had the Evo 4G speaker but I also wish my Evo 4G took 3D Pictures and video..So screw the music,i'll just wear head phones.
Enjoy what ever phone you go to man,have a nice night.
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Thanks man, I appreciate the civility. That's becoming increasingly rare around here these days.
So, yeah, I brought it back. It wasn't easy. That screen had gorgeous resolution and accurate color...and I have anticipated this phone for months, chomping at the bit the whole way...but the weak signal finally put me over the tipping point today after losing a few work calls and not being able to get on XDA in the bathroom at work...that in addition to the completely wacky camera antics (2-3 second to snap a pic, green hue on flash, even worse low-light performance), aforementioned low speaker, irritating 16:9 aspect ratio (narrow portrait), some apps not behaving smooth (launchpro!??)...and a slew of even smaller and irritating things.
If they fix the radio via an update and this thing gets unlocked in a reasonable amount of time I'll be back. I think I've had my heart broken by HTC though...I'll probably wait for the SGS2 to be announced and get the NS4G once we get within 30 days of release. The NS4G radio tested nearly the same as my 4G, the 3D didn't fare nearly as well...and since my office at work and my apartment are both in fringe areas where on my 4G I can routinely pull over 1mbps (sometimes 1.5-1.7ish) but are all over the low-end of the map on the 3D--if I can even get a signal--I think it's safe to say that samsung's sucky 3G radios are at the very least marginally better than the 3D's...perhaps even more than that.
Thanks again.

[Q] Echo/I hear myself when talking to a person. Defective Photon? or known issue?

Hi,
Just got my Photon, and it seem's when talking to someone i can hear myself talk. On speakerphone it's fine. I checked and the echo is on my end, the other person does not hear it. I went to another sprint store to test floor model and i also hear it. It's not horrible, but you can definitely tell that you hear yourself as your talking.
Does anyone else have this? I'm a little worried that this might be a known defect since i noticed this on another photon? Can anyone comment?
thanks
ligerny said:
Hi,
Just got my Photon, and it seem's when talking to someone i can hear myself talk. On speakerphone it's fine. I checked and the echo is on my end, the other person does not hear it. I went to another sprint store to test floor model and i also hear it. It's not horrible, but you can definitely tell that you hear yourself as your talking.
Does anyone else have this? I'm a little worried that this might be a known defect since i noticed this on another photon? Can anyone comment?
thanks
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I've not had this issue or heard others complain, but I've had this happen on occasion with all past phones. I chalked it up to tower and signal strength and could never reproduce it intentionally. I'd sometimes have to ask the other person if I could call them back and it went away on the callback.
BTW - my fat finger hit thanks instead of quote, so you've got a head start on your thanks meter.
Usually (on any phone) when hearing yourself or echo; turn the volume down.
I've actually been hearing this too, but it's odd. Not a normal echo. Instead, it almost sounds like the phone is hollow and my voice is echoing back through the physical shell of the phone.
This is oldschool sound y'all just used to the phones that cancel your voice out.
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Sparky_McBurning said:
I've actually been hearing this too, but it's odd. Not a normal echo. Instead, it almost sounds like the phone is hollow and my voice is echoing back through the physical shell of the phone.
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That's exactly right! You explained it better than me lol. It sounds hollow and i hear my own voice back.
Atleast i wasn't imagining it. What sucks is that i hope it's not a global issue, hopefully my phone is defective or there's a setting i need to change. Going to go back to the store today and see what they tell me.
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This is oldschool sound y'all just used to the phones that cancel your voice out.
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Yeah but this is a premium phone, this isn't an oldschool phone lol
i am gonna go with criptix as well. This is actually a feature I missed.
So there's nothing that can be done? Is this a software or harware issue? i guess worst come to worst i'll try to go back to the evo, but i really like the phone
Under call settings, try switching the "voice privacy" setting. Someone in another thread said this helped.
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Under call settings, try switching the "voice privacy" setting. Someone in another thread said this helped.
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I saw that too in my google search, it didn't work. I even tried switching to Sprint Only under networks and still the same thing. I really hope this is just a defective phone, i cant imagine this skipped motorola's quality control.
This is intentional guys. It's not a defect or a hardware/software issue. It's designed to give you a richer sounding conversation. Other phones /manufacturers have been too cheap/lazy to do this, I'm glad moto did. There aren't any settings you can change to "fix" it because there isn't anything to fix. The swapping the phone won't do anything either.
The phone is working as it was designed to.
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This is intentional guys. It's not a defect or a hardware/software issue. It's designed to give you a richer sounding conversation. Other phones /manufacturers have been too cheap/lazy to do this, I'm glad moto did. There aren't any settings you can change to "fix" it because there isn't anything to fix. The swapping the phone won't do anything either.
The phone is working as it was designed to.
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Richer sound? I call this a major quality control f*ckup. Nothing personal towards you, just my opinion. I should not hear any other noise then the intended one. I will be going back to my evo until they fix it.
In any event thanks to everyone for clarifying this.
It's an intentional design decision to fix the problem of people rudely (and unnecessarily) shouting into cell phones in public places. Think back to your childhood, when you made phone calls on a real non-cordless landline phone whose wires had a direct signal path from the handset all the way to the central office. Those phones echoed back a small amount of your voice from the earpiece, and that was exactly how people liked it because if it stopped, you knew beyond doubt that something happened to the phone line and you were now wasting your breath talking. It also kept you from shouting into the phone, because you would have annoyed yourself as well as the person unfortunate enough to be on the other end of the line.
I'm glad Motorola is now officially non-evil. HTC and Samsung have come a long way, but Motorola is a company that genuinely knows how to make a *telephone* and how to design radios that work really well. There's a reason why Motorola has survived into the 21st century despite hardcore competition from Japanese technology and cheap Chinese imports -- their best stuff is really, really good. One advantage of being a company that's been around for about a hundred years is the fact that they have engineers who've worked for them since the 70s and REALLY understand analog signal design. Motorola has guys working for them who understand radio and analog signals with the same passion that we understand digital electronics and programming. It makes a difference, and it shows
The echo has happened to every cell phone I have ever had. Have even had it on some land line calls. It is not an every time thing, just once in a while. I do not think there is anything you can do to prevent it.
When I start hearing my voice its usually because the other person hasme on speaker or they have their in call volume too loud.
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I liked this feature immensely when I had my photon. Definitely made the conversations sound richer!
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Guys...... this feature is technically called "Sidetone" and I'm personally very glad this is in the Photon.
You ever been around some jackass who is basically yelling into his phone (which never actually helps the other party "hear" better)? I bet sidetone would have helped quiet him down a bit. It helps to keep your voice under control as well simply mimicking what you hear anyway when naturally talking out loud. Your head has builtin sidetone
Hello everyone,
I'm considering getting the Motorola Photon mainly for its sidetone and wondered if you still get the sidetone when using a headset thru the 3.5mm jack?
Thanks!
Craconia
p.d. I'm sorry for resurrecting an old thread but the topic here was right on!
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beartrap said:
I've not had this issue or heard others complain, but I've had this happen on occasion with all past phones. I chalked it up to tower and signal strength and could never reproduce it intentionally. I'd sometimes have to ask the other person if I could call them back and it went away on the callback.
BTW - my fat finger hit thanks instead of quote, so you've got a head start on your thanks meter.
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Usually (on any phone) when hearing yourself or echo; turn the volume down.
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I've had both. Seems to come and go.

Did call sound quality issue ever get fixed?

I helped my dad pick up this phone when it first came out. It had absolutely horrible call audio quality and looking around the net, it sounded like Motorola recognized it and was going to release an update to fix it. Fast forward to this past week when I talked to him on his cell phone and I noticed that it still sounded like crap.
Device issue? Software issue? Common? Rare?
Never had this problem since I have had the phone
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My wife got one of the first ones out...no problems with hers. I got mine in June...no problems with it either.
Minjin said:
I helped my dad pick up this phone when it first came out. It had absolutely horrible call audio quality and looking around the net, it sounded like Motorola recognized it and was going to release an update to fix it. Fast forward to this past week when I talked to him on his cell phone and I noticed that it still sounded like crap.
Device issue? Software issue? Common? Rare?
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Carrier issue imo, att sucks.
The next release of CM should have settings for call qaulity. Not sure what they do but they are there.
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No sound issues here. I came from the Inspire and I thought the Atrix is ten times better.
Sounds like a device issue. Although At&t really has bad call quality I know of quite a few handsets that just had bad audio, even with the new firmware upgrades. Got my Atrix second day it came out and it's a solid device from day one although it is stock android. Gonna wait to see if ICS ever gets green lighted for the Atrix....if not than I will throw CM on it.
CM will certainly be the fastest way to get ICS so if that is what is holding you back I say go full speed ahead.
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Try: Settings - call settings - noise suppression - off

[Q] Call Quality DNA

I'm hoping it's something I'm missing in the set up or some minor other issue but after I finally got the DNA activated I made two calls.
Both calls were choppy on both ends of the call. This phone has gotten stellar reviews on reception quality. Volume and clarity.
I'm being told that the listener hears only bits and pieces of my voice and I hear the same from them.
All my other phones worked fine from my house where I made the calls.
Any thoughts on this from you guys on what might be happening?
Could something be defective on my DNA? Or does this sometimes happen with new out of the box phones?
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I'm hoping it's something I'm missing in the set up or some minor other issue but after I finally got the DNA activated I made two calls.
Both calls were choppy on both ends of the call. This phone has gotten stellar reviews on reception quality. Volume and clarity.
I'm being told that the listener hears only bits and pieces of my voice and I hear the same from them.
All my other phones worked fine from my house where I made the calls.
Any thoughts on this from you guys on what might be happening?
Could something be defective on my DNA? Or does this sometimes happen with new out of the box phones?
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Definitely sounds defective. Sound quality on mine is stellar!
I have to concur.... I've made about a dozen calls so far, and I have had no problems with quality at all.
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If worse comes to worse (I'm hoping this is going to correct itself) can I return it to a local Verizon store for an exchange or do I have to ship it back to Verizon?
I'm going to try the store first on Friday (and I'd rather be shot then to do it on Black Friday).
Are you guys suggesting that this is probably a bad set?
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I'm sure you can exchange in store even if you ordered online. Also, for what it's worth, my call quality has been very, very good. In fact, the clarity, at least on my end, has been noticeably better than the last couple phones I've had so if yours is really that bad when under ideal circumstances, that sounds like it might be a unique issue with your phone.
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I don't want to leave this post without a follow up.
Yesterday when I (finally) activated my DNA: I then made two new voice calls.
As I stated above the calls were choppy and very bad on both ends.
I waited until this morning and made some more voice calls. Even from the same location.
All calls have been clear, audio R9, and more or less perfect.
I had forgotten that about five years ago also on a new cell phone: I had this same issue when activating and calling for the first time.
Nobody could hear me clearly and I could not hear them. The next day and forever after all was fine.
I am not a mobile device geek but I'm sure there is a deep dark explanation for this anomaly.
My son told me that I don't need to know what was happening yesterday but that today is what counts.
I still wonder.
The end result of this problem is that I did have a defective DNA device after all!
It did not fix itself, as I alluded to above.
The Verizon store gave me a new DNA and all is now good.
So.....for anyone interested, it is possible to receive a defective hardware (reception/radio/speaker/whatever) issue with this set.
At Verizon right now seeing if they give me an exchange on my DNA
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At Verizon right now seeing if they give me an exchange on my DNA
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Tell them that a new device should correct it. It did for me.
"Device type guys" might love the challenge of sitting around waiting for a future HTC update fix.
Just get a new set.....and walk away.
They wouldn't exchange it they couldn't get it to replicate the problem.
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They wouldn't exchange it they couldn't get it to replicate the problem.
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The problem is a fact!
Fortunately the employees at my store know me and know that I do not imagine issues.
A new DNA phone (for me) eliminated the problem.
When making calls you will hear the person you are speaking to clear as a bell.
But they are hearing your voice in the following manner:
1. Your voice fades in and out.
2. Some of your words are chopped out.
3. You sound to them like you are talking in a "tunnel".
Call Verizon and tell them that other buyers have successfully returned this set and the new one issued had no problems.
Get a new phone and don't settle for a HDC update.
Yes....some calls are fine. But I don't want "some" calls to be fine!
I want every call to be great on a new phone.
ScreenSpace said:
The problem is a fact!
Fortunately the employees at my store know me and know that I do not imagine issues.
A new DNA phone (for me) eliminated the problem.
When making calls you will hear the person you are speaking to clear as a bell.
But they are hearing your voice in the following manner:
1. Your voice fades in and out.
2. Some of your words are chopped out.
3. You sound to them like you are talking in a "tunnel".
Call Verizon and tell them that other buyers have successfully returned this set and the new one issued had no problems.
Get a new phone and don't settle for a HDC update.
Yes....some calls are fine. But I don't want "some" calls to be fine!
I want every call to be great on a new phone.
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Yeah I told them other people were having call quality issues and were exchanging them. They told me if I could get it to do it again to bring it back so we'll see how it goes
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I'm not having any issues at all with call quality, but I have noticed that my touchscreen isn't nearly as sensitive as my Rezound was. I am constantly getting missed letters when typing on keyboard or having to double tap 3 or 4 times before my screen zooms. I'm thinking this is also a hardware issue and will likely try to get it swapped out soon. Has anyone else had sensitivity problems?
I need help... I keep getting told that the phone quality on the other end is just terrible that the other person just cant hear me at all. (That I sound like im in a tunnel and far away from my phone) I need to figure out a way to record the proof so i can take it to a verizon and get an exchange. Can someone or anybody give me any suggestions? I need help really bad.
go under phone settings and make sure voice privacy or any other sound cancelling settings are not turned on. Those really screw up call quality for me.
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go under phone settings and make sure voice privacy or any other sound cancelling settings are not turned on. Those really screw up call quality for me.
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I think you might be right... tomorrow when i can call someone i will see if that was what was causing my problem... can you tell me or someone tell me what that setting even does? i never did figure it out
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go under phone settings and make sure voice privacy or any other sound cancelling settings are not turned on. Those really screw up call quality for me.
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The store turned off my "voice privacy". That did not fix the problem.
They gave me a new phone and it works flawlessly with excellent voice quality.
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I think you might be right... tomorrow when i can call someone i will see if that was what was causing my problem... can you tell me or someone tell me what that setting even does? i never did figure it out
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Tell the store you want a new phone! Call them from another location and speak to the manager. Ask him or her how well they can hear you.
My phone was so bad that every call I made the receiving party noticed it dramatically.
Send me a PM and I'll identify the store or you can ship the phone directly to Verizon within your 14 day period for a replacement set.
Your phone is defective and it's not going to change.
ScreenSpace said:
The store turned off my "voice privacy". That did not fix the problem.
They gave me a new phone and it works flawlessly with excellent voice quality.
Tell the store you want a new phone! Call them from another location and speak to the manager. Ask him or her how well they can hear you.
My phone was so bad that every call I made the receiving party noticed it dramatically.
Send me a PM and I'll identify the store or you can ship the phone directly to Verizon within your 14 day period for a replacement set.
Your phone is defective and it's not going to change.
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To me it almost seems like a distance thing. If I call people that are in the same house as me it seems to be working ok but for some reason making longer distance calls is where the problem is... I'm being told that I sound super muffeled and very distant. When I switch over to my speakerphone Mic they can hear me with no problem
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I know this is a double post but I found a dead pixel so screw it I'm exchanging it
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