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I know there are a lot of people asking advice about getting their Transformer Primes and being scared that they may be faulty. I was planning to get it from the USA and having it shipped overseas since it will probably take more than half a year for the Prime to reach the Philippines and they will be way overpriced to boot (16 GB Transformer + Dock still costs around $680) .
I would just like to ask how often do the faulty units come up? And how faulty will they be? Did a similar thing happen during the Transformer's launch (faulty initial shipment)?
I ask because once I order one and receive it, it will most likely be to costly to return it if I do get a faulty one. There are posts of people with defective screens and scratched sides and backs upon opening. I don't really care about the GPS but the WiFi concerns me a bit. The WiFi could become a non-issue though if I find a need to buy a pocket router in the future.
Would you personally advice waiting a few months or should I get one soon? Keep in mind that I might not be able to return it if ever there is a defect (more shipping fees + waiting).
if im you, i'll wait!
raylgo said:
I know there are a lot of people asking advice about getting their Transformer Primes and being scared that they may be faulty. I was planning to get it from the USA and having it shipped overseas since it will probably take more than half a year for the Prime to reach the Philippines and they will be way overpriced to boot (16 GB Transformer + Dock still costs around $680) .
I would just like to ask how often do the faulty units come up? And how faulty will they be? Did a similar thing happen during the Transformer's launch (faulty initial shipment)?
I ask because once I order one and receive it, it will most likely be to costly to return it if I do get a faulty one. There are posts of people with defective screens and scratched sides and backs upon opening. I don't really care about the GPS but the WiFi concerns me a bit. The WiFi could become a non-issue though if I find a need to buy a pocket router in the future.
Would you personally advice waiting a few months or should I get one soon? Keep in mind that I might not be able to return it if ever there is a defect (more shipping fees + waiting).
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I'm in the US and am still waiting. I want to purchase the champagne (silver) from BestBuy and figured I'll end up killing two birds with one stone since they still aren't released for BB in that color. My hope is that once they release the champagne to BB they will be a newer batch with better build quality and hopefully less of the errors reported early on here.
So my opinion for you it just hold tight and wait. Most products that are pre-ordered and pushed out like the prime will have initial issues and cause some negative feedback. There are many people on here who can tell you how amazing it is.
Bought my champagne from newegg.com on Thursday, last week. It's coming tomorrow and no sales tax. You just have to keep watching the website because they appear periodically but sell out really fast. Good luck.
Good thing there's Amazon and their return policy. I'll play with mine for 29 days then file for RMA.
How long should I wait? Would the old stock be gone in say 2 months and a fresh batch be made that may have fixed some defects?
Bought my first Prime from Gamestop in January, returned mostly because of light bleed, but also WiFi/GPS was horrible. Bought second Prime beginning of February, but it has WiFi/BT issues, so I'm going to return it also.
I've read so many positive reviews that I'm hoping my next Prime will be great, and looking forward to exchanging it... not just a refund.
BUT I CANNOT FIND PRIMES ANYWHERE LOCALLY!!
Given the fact that the Primes have an awesome less then 1% failure rate, why are they not on the shelves at retailers? Why are the retailers not sure when, or even if, they will get more stock?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Bought my first Prime from Gamestop in January, returned mostly because of light bleed, but also WiFi/GPS was horrible. Bought second Prime beginning of February, but it has WiFi/BT issues, so I'm going to return it also.
I've read so many positive reviews that I'm hoping my next Prime will be great, and looking forward to exchanging it... not just a refund.
BUT I CANNOT FIND PRIMES ANYWHERE LOCALLY!!
Given the fact that the Primes have an awesome less then 1% failure rate, why are they not on the shelves at retailers? Why are the retailers not sure when, or even if, they will get more stock?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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I'm not Gary, but I sure am interested to know.
Best Buy couldn't even order me one. I was able to order mine from Tiger though and it should arrive tomorrow after being on backorder for a week.
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if you want a prime go to nowinstock.net and resister and get notified when its in stock somewhere online
far and away the easiest way
Thanks knives. I thought that site was only for online vendors, who are moving whatever inventory that managed to get their way through the supply chain.
I had no idea that site provided local retail availability!!!
It is an interesting question though... Where are the primes? It seems as though availability is getting worse, not better. Has Asus decided the beta period is over, and is now switching to produce production models?
No joke... I sent mine back to Amazon after soft bricking, for a new replacement... ****, 64GB Primes are 4 -6 weeks out.
I hope they are doing some big time quality control improvement, and the new ones, when they do come out will be problem free.
Norway gave up...
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The biggest online retailer in Norway has removed the TF201 from stock, only 2 weeks after release.
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=652778&cks=ASS&assoc=D17C9206-4ABF-4D73-94BE-9D52E5984D4D
They claim it is because that they don't know when they get more in stock so they don't want to fill in more orders.
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Thanks knives. I thought that site was only for online vendors, who are moving whatever inventory that managed to get their way through the supply chain.
I had no idea that site provided local retail availability!!!
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no idea why anyone would want to buy it locally, unless you like wasting time and money. no tax with amazon and the easiest return system ever.
i order with amazon prime and get it the next day for 3.99...truly amazing service
If you go to Staples website and search for Asus transformer prime, you won't get results. The only way to find the tablet is to use google and search for staples asus transformer prime. I think that Staples is gearing up to stop selling the device completely.
Couple that with my 2 local staples returning all of their stock to the warehouse and I'm starting to think that asus is going to slowly stop selling the prime. Would make sense with all of the issues it has.
It makes business sense to stop selling the device and get out the new units with "improved wireless" ASAP so they can stop eating all the costs of having to deal with their mistake on the TF201.
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no idea why anyone would want to buy it locally, unless you like wasting time and money. no tax with amazon and the easiest return system ever.
i order with amazon prime and get it the next day for 3.99...truly amazing service
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Seems I was a bit premature giving thanks to Knives. (By the way, I'm an Amazon Prime member)
NowInStock.net only shows online retailers. Given enough margin, online retailers will sell anything.
What is strange is every local retailer that carried the Prime is now telling me the same story:
They've heard of problems with the Prime
They've had a lot of returns of the Prime
They have no estimate of when, or if, they will get new stock
Not just one, but all of them: BestBuy, HHGRegg, GameStop and even Staples!
Since Gary has confirmed the Prime has less than 1% failure rate, which is AWESOME, it just seems strange that no local retailers are expecting new stock. If these things are flying off the shelves, why don't any retailers have them or at least an ETA?
The TFP is exactly what I want. For me, higher resolution "2048xwhatever" is just too small on a 10" display, plus it will be slower.
Even Apple products are not this constrained after two months, where people camp out and wait for them.
Its been two months, and retailers are saying due to problems we're not sure when we'll get more?
Ofcourse, there is always the extermely remote possibility that Gary is not telling us the truth. That retailers have suffered from such a high return rate, they have decided not to carry that SKU anymore.
Which I'm sure is not the case. I'm sure Gary will post here tomorrow and clear things up.
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No joke... I sent mine back to Amazon after soft bricking, for a new replacement... ****, 64GB Primes are 4 -6 weeks out.
I hope they are doing some big time quality control improvement, and the new ones, when they do come out will be problem free.
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@Swift, howdy , I see your located in C-Stat. I actually called the BB here in C-Stat today to see if there were any Primes available after returning my 2nd one last weekend. The rep told me they could have 2 avail by tomorrow and to call in the morning. Just a heads up if your looking bro.
Also guys, I called the BB in my hometown and on 2 different occasions they told me they were waiting on the "new batch" of primes b/c of all the problems they have been having with them. No info as to when this "new batch" is hitting stores though.
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@Swift, howdy , I see your located in C-Stat. I actually called the BB here in C-Stat today to see if there were any Primes available after returning my 2nd one last weekend. The rep told me they could have 2 avail by tomorrow and to call in the morning. Just a heads up if your looking bro.
Also guys, I called the BB in my hometown and on 2 different occasions they told me they were waiting on the "new batch" of primes b/c of all the problems they have been having with them. No info as to when this "new batch" is hitting stores though.
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HOWDY!
Thanks, but I'm replacing my 64GB Grey, which as far as I know BB doesn't carry. Besides, I'm getting a full replacement from Amazon... whenever they get some again.
With the law suit happening (and probably winning), it'd be smart for Asus not to ship any new primes.
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If you go to Staples website and search for Asus transformer prime, you won't get results. The only way to find the tablet is to use google and search for staples asus transformer prime. I think that Staples is gearing up to stop selling the device completely.
Couple that with my 2 local staples returning all of their stock to the warehouse and I'm starting to think that asus is going to slowly stop selling the prime. Would make sense with all of the issues it has.
It makes business sense to stop selling the device and get out the new units with "improved wireless" ASAP so they can stop eating all the costs of having to deal with their mistake on the TF201.
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BINGO! Exactly what i did. I was like WTH cant i find it on their site. Light bulb went off & i used google & it came up. Did a store check and what do you know..... 2 stores locally just got a stock. I grabbed my jacket, & GF and ran! LOL. Actually the guy held it for me.
Oh also when i returned my original to BB the lady said they were not selling them anymore because of the high return rate.
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no idea why anyone would want to buy it locally, unless you like wasting time and money. no tax with amazon and the easiest return system ever.
i order with amazon prime and get it the next day for 3.99...truly amazing service
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I'm an Amazon Prime member too.
I guess you missed the seperate paragraph, which was in ALL CAPS, that said:
"BUT I CANNOT FIND PRIMES ANYWHERE LOCALLY!!"
Some people don't mind spending a little extra money and time, to buy something locally. But since you have no idea why that would happen, its not valid. Guessing you have no use for GPS or BT also.
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BINGO! Exactly what i did. I was like WTH cant i find it on their site. Light bulb went off & i used google & it came up. Did a store check and what do you know..... 2 stores locally just got a stock. I grabbed my jacket, & GF and ran! LOL. Actually the guy held it for me.
Oh also when i returned my original to BB the lady said they were not selling them anymore because of the high return rate.
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I Googled Staples and TF201 and found it on their site. Checked local availability a couple days ago, and there were a couple stores with stock. Returning my Prime tomorrow. Re-checked Staples, no local availability. Plus if you check their main site, they don't even acknowledge TF201 as an item.
Must be because its so poplular, they don't want to sell it.
We can't help but feel that we're being lied to by Asus. These things are f'd up and being sent back as fast as they can ship them. Very disappointed in Asus for this massive f'up. 1% failure rate my a$$. I was totally ready to accept a unit w non functioning GPS (as I won't use it), but screen bleed out the a$$! no. And still a locked bootloader!
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We can't help but feel that we're being lied to by Asus. These things are f'd up and being sent back as fast as they can ship them. Very disappointed in Asus for this massive f'up. 1% failure rate my a$$. I was totally ready to accept a unit w non functioning GPS (as I won't use it), but screen bleed out the a$$! no. And still a locked bootloader!
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I know how you feel (except I would use the GPS). But I'm sure local retailers are wrong, and a boat-load of fully functional TFP's are on their way to retailers.
I bet the retailers got caught up in reading XDA posts and didn't pay attention to their actual return rates, which are less than 1%, like Gary said.
Seriously looking forward to Gary's reply. I know he has a couple PM's, but with less than 1% defects, spending 30 seconds addressing this thread will clear things up for a lot of existing and potential customers.
NCIX in Canada shows >53 in stock of 32 and 64 gb versions. I bought one there last month and it was such a hassle returning. I had to demonstrate all issues to the service guy and he was very reluctant to take it back until he got the ok from ASUS. I won't be buying my next tablet from them. Their return policy is horrible.
I am awaiting confirmation on this forum that a new batch is on its way.
West coast.
Hey XDA friends
(i posted this on reddit an hour ago, but i think it will be read by more people here)
I have to let some steam off today...
TL;DR: worst customer support i have ever experienced!
Long story:
23.11.2011 ordered my prime via amazon 16.01.2012 received my wonderful Prime
in the first week the scratch resistant gorilla glass started to come off the bezel and lcd, on the top of the tablet. clearly being a manufacturing issue because the "glue-strip" holding it together was displaced on the top and on the side.
1.Feb: Contacting Amazon, they propose to send it directly to asus for faster repairing 1.Feb: ordering Asus Pick-up service 2.Feb: UPS fetches the package
so far so good. now the fun part starts:
7.Feb: checking online for repair-status. It sais: "Waiting for customer reply OOW-CID" (i had not received any mail or call) I called ASUS asking whats happening. They told me that i should have received a mail from the technician with an estimation of the costs. And it will be best to talk to him for any details regarding warranty issues. He will tell the technician to contact me again.
8.Feb.: writing an email to Asus customer support, explaining the issue and why it is not OOW CID (out of warranty, customer induced damage)
9.Feb: Support writes back: there will be an investigation, and in a few days they will make the desicion.
10.Feb.: i get a mail from the technician with the estimate of costs (95€ if i do nothing and have it sent back to me, 260€ to change the lcd) it was obvious the technician had not yet received the investigation mails from customer support
15.Feb: i send a copy of all my support mails to the technician explaining what is happening.
20.Feb: again mail to customer support that this is unacceptable and i will contact the Consumer Protection Board.
20.Feb: he answers: he hasn't heard back yet, and asks for more time.
23.Feb: 2 registered Letters (Amazon, Asus) telling them that they have 2 weeks for a satisfactory statement regarding this issue, until then the Consumer Protection Board will be informed.
29.Feb: Support supervisor writes to me that my Prime will be repaired free of charge. (warranty) the repair info site tells me "final testing"
2.Mar: the repair info site tells me: waiting for customer reply OOW-CID i write mail to the support supervisor.
2.Mar: he tells me i have to do nothing, they are waiting for a replacement part.
11.Mar: i mail him again asking for an update and if there is an estimate when i can get my tablet back. And that if they can't tell me when, maybe they shoult think about replacing the whole prime and send me a replacement.
It seems that the Transformer 700 series are out solving all Prime issues at the same Price. And i invested in a highend tablet in November not beeing able to no even touch it for more than one week!
Its now the 15.Mar. with no email or phone contact. WTF i just want to live in peace!
Maybe i can post this somewhere else where it has more impact ^
P.S.: If Asus reads this, please don't hesitate to contact me...
My only question would be, why did you send it off for repair in the first week of ownership as opposed to getting a replacement or refund?
At first i was contacting amazon.
They told me that they can't guarantee me a replacement item in the next months due to empty stocks etc. And suggested to send it in to Asus directly....
thats why
I received my Prime around the same time from Amazon. Had I needed service on it I probably still would've sent it back to them for a replacement, since they had more in stock and ready for shipping by the end of Jan.
It's all moot now...hope it comes back to you soon and properly working.
I will remember to opt for a slightly longer wait and full replacement / refund as opposed to "repairing" it. I'm often impatient with such things, so would have done the same you did and been even more screwed.
Its pathetic, you have purchased a device you can't use and its not your fault - its Asus' fault.
Hope you get it all sorted soon! I would be dieing waiting to get my tab back.
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PM Gary Key a link to this thread.
IMO this is categorically unacceptable. If this were MY employees fouling up my company's reputation like this someone would get a 1 month vacation w/o pay just as fast as I could find out who's responsible for this charlie foxtrot.
Unreal. One horror story after another. This whole thing has been a mess from the start. (not your situation, but everything involving the TP) I don't think I will be buying another ASUS product. Certainly not within the first 6 months of release...
Thanks for all the kind words!
I PMed Gary and i will post the updates
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Unreal. One horror story after another. This whole thing has been a mess from the start. (not your situation, but everything involving the TP) I don't think I will be buying another ASUS product. Certainly not within the first 6 months of release...
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Same here! It's horrible the product was so rushed its not funny I really hope a few people got fired because of choices they made to push this product.
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While no company gets it right 100% of the time, we are seeing some re-occuring themes in both the inconsistency of getting accurate information and the time taken to do actual repairs. You do tend to learn most about a company when something goes wrong. It seems pretty clear that the experience with Asus is pretty variable. It also seems to vary significantly from country to country. When I got my transformer repaired last year (for a faulty right speaker) I did have a pretty positive experience other than a minor lack of communication whereby Asus didn't pass on the delivery address to the courier company when they came to pick up the tablet (which delayed things by a day). The OP certainly hasn't been treated in a way that is consistent with their brand promise for 'persistent perfection'. They can't turn the clock back, but they can show they're learning. Many of the quality control issues that affected the original transformer was repeated with the Prime. So they better get it right with the future Pad 300, PadFone and Infinity models
However, regarding the transformer 700 (Transformer Pad Infinity). We've only seen the prototype that was shown off at CES, so we only know what is supposed to be fixed. Certainly, I can imagine in light of the issues with weak/more directional wi-fi and the ability of GPS that Asus would given these a lot more scrutiny. But who's to say at this point what issues (quality control related or otherwise) that the Infinity model is going to have. According to Asus on their UK facebook page, it won't be out until June at the earliest. Realistically, based on the availability of the original transformer and now the Prime that probably means July/August for actual physical stock. Also, based on what we know at this point, it won't be the same price as the Prime; there's $100 premium.
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Dont they only have 30 days to repair otherwise they HAVE to send a new one? I think it is part of their warranty.
OP: Out of curiosity... you didn't happen to send the unit in for repair in their Jeffersonville, IN facility did you?
I've had a few 'experiences' with that facility, and my suggestion to most people, is if they tell you to ship it to that facility, demand it be shipped to another. (keep escalating it if need be) The other repair facilities I've encountered zero problems in... Jeffersonville, on the other hand, seem to hire the Geek Squad rejects.
Upside is that from what I've gathered, Jeffersonville seems to be a 3rd party repair facility for ASUS... so while I blame them for keeping them employed, I don't blame ASUS's techs.
@ Shadowlore
OP: Out of curiosity... you didn't happen to send the unit in for repair in their Jeffersonville, IN facility did you?
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Nope, currently it's in the Czech Republic, Europe.
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Dont they only have 30 days to repair otherwise they HAVE to send a new one? I think it is part of their warranty.
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is this for real?? i don't think so otherwise i would have got one already. (if it works automatically)
So, Asus and I have been going back and forth since December 26th. It started when the charging cable that I received was defective. I simply called them and asked for a replacement, and the troubles started there. It started by them wanting me to pay to send them the cable, because "my warranty only covers one way shipping." That's simply ridiculous, as the product was defective out of the box. I went back and forth with them about that for weeks.
After those two weeks or so (with my charging cable still not replaced), I realized that my Prime had extremely poor wifi and GPS performance, as many others have complained, and my screen was bleeding in two places. Once again, I called Asus and they started to give in and decided to give me a shipping label for my charging cable. I then brought up the poor WIFI, GPS and screen problems, so they told me to send the whole unit in for service.
I sent my Prime in and they had it for two weeks. After those two weeks, it was shipped and I was happy. When I received the Prime again, I noticed a brand new charging cable and charger. I took the Prime out of the box, booted it, and they fixed nothing on the tablet at all. Still poor WIFI, still no GPS and the screen still was bleeding.
I immediately called Asus, they apologized, and sent me a shipping label again. I shipped the tablet out the next morning. The tablet was received and at their repair facility with the status "Waiting on internal advise." That was fine and dandy, until two weeks later it was still at that status. I called them and they told me they escalated my repair, and I would be contacted soon.
A week passed and no one contacted me. I called again, they told me the same thing. So, yesterday I called and threw a fit to both Asus and Best Buy, and Asus had no clue what was going on, and Best Buy told me to get my unrepaired tablet sent back to me and they would handle it. I called Asus once more, and they told me someone tried to contact me and to check my email. I checked my email, and I received this from their corporate office:
Dear Valued Customer,
We have your ASUS TF201 in repair process. We apologize for the delay in service and the inconvenience this may have caused you. Due to non-availability of the replacement parts or units up to this time, we would like to offer you an option to buy back the unit for the full price based on the purchase invoice. If you accept this refund please provide a copy of the invoice in PDF or JPG format and attach to this email. This will also require the return of all accessories to the address provided below. Once these are received we will process and mail a check to you. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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I replied that I bought a third party warranty (SquareTrade) and a docking station, both of which were useless at this point, and asked if I would be receiving a refund on those too. An hour later, I received a reply with them saying that I will be refunded for the tablet, the dock, the warranty and any other accessories that were bought for the tablet. I emailed them my proof of purchase about an hour ago, and am waiting for my check.
Needless to say, I won. I absolutely despise Asus now. I have one of their desktops, I love it, and one of their OG Transformers which I've never had a problem with. From now on, I'm staying away from Asus products.
Does anyone have an recommendations as to what tablet should be my next purchase? I want something comparable to the Prime, but I'm staying away from Asus at all costs. I'm in no rush to purchase another tablet, so if anyone knows of anything coming out that would be equal or better, let me know please.
cool story bro
B-RiZzY said:
So, Asus and I have been going back and forth since December 26th. It started when the charging cable that I received was defective. I simply called them and asked for a replacement, and the troubles started there. It started by them wanting me to pay to send them the cable, because "my warranty only covers one way shipping." That's simply ridiculous, as the product was defective out of the box. I went back and forth with them about that for weeks.
After those two weeks or so (with my charging cable still not replaced), I realized that my Prime had extremely poor wifi and GPS performance, as many others have complained, and my screen was bleeding in two places. Once again, I called Asus and they started to give in and decided to give me a shipping label for my charging cable. I then brought up the poor WIFI, GPS and screen problems, so they told me to send the whole unit in for service.
I sent my Prime in and they had it for two weeks. After those two weeks, it was shipped and I was happy. When I received the Prime again, I noticed a brand new charging cable and charger. I took the Prime out of the box, booted it, and they fixed nothing on the tablet at all. Still poor WIFI, still no GPS and the screen still was bleeding.
I immediately called Asus, they apologized, and sent me a shipping label again. I shipped the tablet out the next morning. The tablet was received and at their repair facility with the status "Waiting on internal advise." That was fine and dandy, until two weeks later it was still at that status. I called them and they told me they escalated my repair, and I would be contacted soon.
A week passed and no one contacted me. I called again, they told me the same thing. So, yesterday I called and threw a fit to both Asus and Best Buy, and Asus had no clue what was going on, and Best Buy told me to get my unrepaired tablet sent back to me and they would handle it. I called Asus once more, and they told me someone tried to contact me and to check my email. I checked my email, and I received this from their corporate office:
I replied that I bought a third party warranty (SquareTrade) and a docking station, both of which were useless at this point, and asked if I would be receiving a refund on those too. An hour later, I received a reply with them saying that I will be refunded for the tablet, the dock, the warranty and any other accessories that were bought for the tablet. I emailed them my proof of purchase about an hour ago, and am waiting for my check.
Needless to say, I won. I absolutely despise Asus now. I have one of their desktops, I love it, and one of their OG Transformers which I've never had a problem with. From now on, I'm staying away from Asus products.
Does anyone have an recommendations as to what tablet should be my next purchase? I want something comparable to the Prime, but I'm staying away from Asus at all costs. I'm in no rush to purchase another tablet, so if anyone knows of anything coming out that would be equal or better, let me know please.
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I won to but I won better I got 2 free chargers and a free ROG gaming mouse
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B-RiZzY said:
Needless to say, I won. I absolutely despise Asus now. I have one of their desktops, I love it, and one of their OG Transformers which I've never had a problem with. From now on, I'm staying away from Asus products.
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I think yours is the first case where Asus voluntarily offered to buy a Prime back. It's odd that they didn't offer to send you a new one; they've done that a couple of times. I wonder if some type of buy back program is part of Gary's "big announcment."
Does anyone have an recommendations as to what tablet should be my next purchase? I want something comparable to the Prime.
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The Acer A510's going up for pre-sale in the next couple of days for $449. It's discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522707&page=6
NewEgg also has the G-Tab 16GB and 32GB refurbs on sale for $276/361 and it would be a decent tablet to hold you over until later in the year when there are more next-gen choices available. The G-Tab has a great dev community.
The Amazon pre-order link is up but it doesn't give an ETA...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B007E8TWKA/ref=nosim/12479-rg2035-00-20?s=merchant
Really bro, I dont see this as "winning"...
The only thing I want them to do is to give me a working product, I wanted a cool working Android Tablet with Tegra3. If I had wanted the money in my wallet, I wouldn't have bought it.
I am so pissed off, I bought it because I was about to travel to Argentina for a few months, I never thought that I would be here sitting right beside the router to have WiFi or renting cars with GPS units because of the crappy internals. And I have no chance of getting a refund here...
I wouldn't say he won, but justice has been served at the least.
Here I am with a defective tablet as far as WiFi/GPS goes and while I could try to get a refund for it, I want a tablet in my possession and for the moment, this is the BEST tablet on the market in my eyes. It's just unfortunate that ASUS isn't living up to the quality as a manufacturer that I've previously known them to be.
So while I'm happy with being the owner of MY tablet, I know that's not going to last given ASUS's upcoming products that will place the Prime in certain obsolescence.
At the very least, other owners who are not happy with their Primes are being given the option to review their purchase.
OP, I'm glad you got your money back, and really appreciate the info
but it's not really winning because of what another commenter said
getting rid of the tablet is not success, getting one that actually works is.
One angle I've been looking at recently, Asus employees have it pretty bad right now. Asus has dumped hastily built hardware in the market, and made their lives much ****tier. That maybe explains the sudden buy back
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BarryH_GEG said:
I think yours is the first case where Asus voluntarily offered to buy a Prime back. It's odd that they didn't offer to send you a new one; they've done that a couple of times. I wonder if some type of buy back program is part of Gary's "big announcment."
The Acer A510's going up for pre-sale in the next couple of days for $449. It's discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522707&page=6
NewEgg also has the G-Tab 16GB and 32GB refurbs on sale for $276/361 and it would be a decent tablet to hold you over until later in the year when there are more next-gen choices available. The G-Tab has a great dev community.
The Amazon pre-order link is up but it doesn't give an ETA...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B007E8TWKA/ref=nosim/12479-rg2035-00-20?s=merchant
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I figured they haven't offered many people the option of buying back their tablet. I'm happy mine turned out the way it did, honestly. Thank you for the info about the up and coming Acer tablet. I'm just not so sure I'd like an Acer brand product either..
glazzi said:
Really bro, I dont see this as "winning"...
The only thing I want them to do is to give me a working product, I wanted a cool working Android Tablet with Tegra3. If I had wanted the money in my wallet, I wouldn't have bought it.
I am so pissed off, I bought it because I was about to travel to Argentina for a few months, I never thought that I would be here sitting right beside the router to have WiFi or renting cars with GPS units because of the crappy internals. And I have no chance of getting a refund here...
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The only thing I wanted in the end was a functioning quad core (at the minimum) tablet and something that I know would last me a while and be happy with. Sadly, I can't get that from Asus. I classify it as winning simply because I can now wash my hands of Asus and get a newer and better tablet when they come out and hopefully deal with a company who can support their product.
BUYMECAR said:
I wouldn't say he won, but justice has been served at the least.
Here I am with a defective tablet as far as WiFi/GPS goes and while I could try to get a refund for it, I want a tablet in my possession and for the moment, this is the BEST tablet on the market in my eyes. It's just unfortunate that ASUS isn't living up to the quality as a manufacturer that I've previously known them to be.
So while I'm happy with being the owner of MY tablet, I know that's not going to last given ASUS's upcoming products that will place the Prime in certain obsolescence.
At the very least, other owners who are not happy with their Primes are being given the option to review their purchase.
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Honestly, I'm not happy about the fact that I no longer have a tablet. Though, two months without a tablet and a week or so with one, didn't really make me too attached to it. I am in no rush to get another tablet. I'm going to be playing the waiting game until something that impresses me comes out.
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OP, I'm glad you got your money back, and really appreciate the info
but it's not really winning because of what another commenter said
getting rid of the tablet is not success, getting one that actually works is.
One angle I've been looking at recently, Asus employees have it pretty bad right now. Asus has dumped hastily built hardware in the market, and made their lives much ****tier. That maybe explains the sudden buy back
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Honestly, I would have settled for a working tablet if I knew it would've lasted me a few years. The fact that Asus has about the worst service I've dealt with, I'm happy to wash my hands with them. I'd say I won in that aspect.
Based on the "Not a Best Buy Prime" thread, I called Amazon about my Prime (purchased Feb 2012) and complained that it had gotten steadily worse and that Asus wasn't helping any. I demanded a new unit.
They found that Prime was out of stock and they had no timeline for return of stock. So I asked them to refund, and they agreed. Its not even going to be store credit! I just got the return labels emailed to me, and I'll soon get back my 650$!
I'm one thoroughly satisfied Amazon customer who'll gladly say goodbye to Asus!
ir87 said:
I'm one thoroughly satisfied Amazon customer who'll gladly say goodbye to Asus!
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Considering all the Prime issues. Asus should have just put out their own Trade Up program. I don't think many people would have had an issue trading in their Prime + some $ for a TF300 or TF700.
Great if true, between BB and Amazon....this product should have a 80+% return rate.
Thanks ir87 for the tip-off. I was just able to get a return/refund granted for my January Amazon order as well. However, this was not a standard procedure. For what its worth, here are the specifics of my experience:
First, I am a Prime member. I think that grants you some leeway. This was a 20-minute conversation with them. The call had to be transferred a couple times and supervisor approval was required to "bend the rules". All I did was explain all the problems that I have had, that I had already returned one TF201 within 30 days and that after the second one I tried resolving the issues with the manufacturer and that they stalled and gave me solutions that were worse than before (firmware updates and the GPS dongle). I told them that the manufacturer was unwilling or unable to fix the problems and that I was simply tired of dealing with them, and that I hoped to get a refund and never deal with Asus again. I remained friendly, and courteous throughout the call, never made demands, and was grateful for anything they could do for me. I did not tell any white lies like many in the Best Buy thread have done, and simply told it how it was. I do not believe that Amazon will continue to grant refunds for these once they see a pattern, but it never hurts to ask! Amazon ultimately wants their customers to be happy.
I am still looking at options, but I will probably replace my TF201 with a Samsung Note 10.1 combined with a Bluetooth keyboard. My Nexus S phone is made by Samsung, and I believe that they make a reliable well-thought-out product. I will never give money to Asus again, no matter what, and I will be steering clear of this Tegra chipset crap as well.
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Ebuyer told me
1. Call Asus on 0870 1208340 with your date of purchase and the serial number of the product.
2. Explain the problem and tell them you need a fault log number for Ebuyer.com, they will ask you to do a few tests depending on the product. In most cases Asus will solve the problem directly with you and/or send out any replacement parts that are needed.
3. If Asus are unable to do this for you they will then provide you with a fault log number.
4. Please forward this onto our email address [email protected] with your RMA request number in the subject line (e.g. subject: 0781234).
5. We will then authorise your return and you will be sent the necessary emails needed to book a courier to come and collect the faulty item from you, once we receive this back we will turnaround your request within 3 - 5 working days.
However as I am over 6 months - I would not get a FULL refund by prorata (about -£50)
Wish there an easy option - such as a trade up program -as it is not a nice feeling with everyone returning theirs... or the impression at least!
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Thanks ir87 for the tip-off. I was just able to get a return/refund granted for my January Amazon order as well. However, this was not a standard procedure. For what its worth, here are the specifics of my experience:
First, I am a Prime member. I think that grants you some leeway. This was a 20-minute conversation with them. The call had to be transferred a couple times and supervisor approval was required to "bend the rules". All I did was explain all the problems that I have had, that I had already returned one TF201 within 30 days and that after the second one I tried resolving the issues with the manufacturer and that they stalled and gave me solutions that were worse than before (firmware updates and the GPS dongle). I told them that the manufacturer was unwilling or unable to fix the problems and that I was simply tired of dealing with them, and that I hoped to get a refund and never deal with Asus again. I remained friendly, and courteous throughout the call, never made demands, and was grateful for anything they could do for me. I did not tell any white lies like many in the Best Buy thread have done, and simply told it how it was. I do not believe that Amazon will continue to grant refunds for these once they see a pattern, but it never hurts to ask! Amazon ultimately wants their customers to be happy.
I am still looking at options, but I will probably replace my TF201 with a Samsung Note 10.1 combined with a Bluetooth keyboard. My Nexus S phone is made by Samsung, and I believe that they make a reliable well-thought-out product. I will never give money to Asus again, no matter what, and I will be steering clear of this Tegra chipset crap as well.
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Several points here match my experience. I'm a Prime account holder too (Amazon Prime, that is), and I use it pretty heavily. As such, I usually have purchases worth about 30$ with them every month.
Second, I also remained courteous and friendly. I straightaway acknowledged that I knew this was well past the return window. I made that point that the device had become worse since that 1 month period, especially with new updates. I was asked if Asus was not willing to help. I told them that several users online could back up my claim that many issues remained unresolved even after RMA.
I also started the conversation with making a request for a replacement, not a refund. Before they found out that they were out of stock, replacement with a new Prime was what I was offered. If they do get it back on stock, I think they might just replace, instead of refunding. This is worth keeping in mind.
I was never transferred to a new person, but they did discuss this with a supervisor. At no point was I asked for specific problems that I had (which indicated to me that they were aware of these issues), and at no point was I asked to justify or argue for my request. The entire process was smooth, which strengthens my opinion that Amazon is aware of these issues with the Prime.
I'm also happy that this happened at this time. The tablet market is exploding, and a huge number of options are becoming available.
I can confirm I also got them to give me a full refund, I am ordering the 700. I got transfered to an Indian woman who refused, I then asked for her to transfer me to a supervisor in the US, she did. I explained I contacted Asus and that there wasnt any fixes for my issues that it was hardware related and the only reason I kept the tablet was Asus promised to fix, which they can't. He said there are exceptions to the rules, hes send me the return label now. Printing label now!
Edit:My prime was from May and I am not a Amazon prime member, I made it a point that Asus can't fix the issue with the Prime even after contacting them, there is no fix, period.
Woohoo! Finally get to say goodbye to this POS! Amazon just approved my full refund! Hopefully it doesn't take long to process. Not really sure if I want to buy another ASUS product but the Infinity is tempting. I have been reading bad reviews on the Note 10.1.
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SFG said:
Woohoo! Finally get to say goodbye to this POS! Amazon just approved my full refund! Hopefully it doesn't take long to process. Not really sure if I want to buy another ASUS product but the Infinity is tempting. I have been reading bad reviews on the Note 10.1.
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Did you say Asus can't fix it, thats its a hardware issue not software and then they said ok? I just don't trust Samsung and their ypdates, the abandon their products pretty quickly.
PS. My infinity will be here tomorrow, I ordered overnight shipping and they deliver on Saturdays here.
Ready2Mosh said:
Did you say Asus can't fix it, thats its a hardware issue not software and then they said ok? I just don't trust Samsung and their ypdates, the abandon their products pretty quickly.
PS. My infinity will be here tomorrow, I ordered overnight shipping and they deliver on Saturdays here.
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I really didn't say too much other than Asus support never provided. They initially offered me a 50% discount and I told them that was unacceptable. When I asked for a supervisor, they put me on hold for a few minutes and then came back and said it was authorized for a full refund.
Only reason I am a considering a tf700 is the dock and resolution. The Note just seems to gimmicky. Is there another comparable tablet not made by asus?
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Has anyone of you unlocked their prime?
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demster said:
Has anyone of you unlocked their prime?
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My Prime was rooted but not unlocked. I unrooted it and did a factory reset before shipping it back to Amazon.
Anyone done this on an unlocked Prime from the UK Amazon?
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Well it looks like my infinity is a dud right out of the box. It boots to nvidia logo then shuts off. I'm hoping it just needs to charge for a little bit. @&*()(*#&#)(@_)(@*[email protected]*@_)*@&#&$$
Looks like it just needed to get some juice, but it does have some light bleed, I will continue to post as I use it
Edit: Update on my Infinity. Looks like Amazon has pulled them because of the quality of the item. Mine has a problem where it doesnt seem like the screen is seated properly on the bottom left hand side. I don't have to use any force to make it move in and out about an 1/8of an inch. It's right next to the micro hdmi, headphone and speaker hole, it's like it's hollow there or something.
They know about the issue and thats why its pulled.
Just wondering, for those who were successful in trading it in, did you guys call or did online chatting with their rep? Does it matter?
daniel60104 said:
Just wondering, for those who were successful in trading it in, did you guys call or did online chatting with their rep? Does it matter?
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I had them call me feature, first person was in the US, she transfered me out of country and the Indian lady refused, I then asked to be transfered to a US supervisor who listened, made an exception to the rule and here I am with an Infinity that the screen moves on, and now Amazon has pulled their whole inventory because of customer complaints. They stated it could be up to 2 weeks before the issue is resolved, and if they can't get it resolved it will be removed from their inventory.
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I had them call me feature, first person was in the US, she transfered me out of country and the Indian lady refused, I then asked to be transfered to a US supervisor who listened, made an exception to the rule and here I am with an Infinity that the screen moves on, and now Amazon has pulled their whole inventory because of customer complaints. They stated it could be up to 2 weeks before the issue is resolved, and if they can't get it resolved it will be removed from their inventory.
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Update: Just called them and Amazon rep said that an exchange is impossible and a refund will be given once I return the product. Quite speedy, didn't have to get transferred or anything!
I just told them about the weak WiFi/no GPS issues (and how ASUS did not solve anything) and immediately the refund is approved. The reps apparently are told to just process the refund for us as the rep pretty much implied it.
I did it for mine and my friend yesterday over Amazon chat. Told them about the manufacturing defects and asked if I could get it exchanged, they said they could not exchange it but they could refund me if I return it. Both our primes were purchased from the warehouse back in March.
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Just wondering, for those who were successful in trading it in, did you guys call or did online chatting with their rep? Does it matter?
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I called
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3 weeks ago I got them to give me a full refund for my prime purchased back in march. They made an exception as well. After receiving it they charged a 20% restocking fee. I called them back up and they refunded the rest no problem. Good luck to anyone else who tries.