not sure if this justifies a topic of its own but i have kind of wrecked my hp charger cable by using it to charge my phone
i can only assume that the socket on my htc incredible S is tighter or something because the micro usb end wiggles around so much in my touchpad now it doesnt maintain a connection unless i apply pressure in a certain direction!
so just to let you all know, its probably best to keep your hp cable for your touchpad!
Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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Why would you put it in your phone in the first place? They require different amount of power (tl;dr: you could have fried it).
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huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
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huh? the device only pulls as much as much power as it wants
and it only pulls 2amps when the touchpad detects the right amount of resistance
he is talking bout the cable and actually it might be the "teeth" on the micro usb being lower than it should, i basically have gone thru 4 cables because they wont stay in the right place not only because they are recessed (which i have pulled back into place but because there is a crack on the usb port..
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I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
wonshikee said:
I hate micro USB, such a flimsy design.
Basically some of the male ends are a micrometer thicker, causing the female end to stretch.
At least with TouchPad, you can get an inductive charger.
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cant argue with that totally agree with the touchstone, oh if the tp was able to pull 2 amps that way though..
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A switching mode power supply (pretty much all newer chargers) will put out its rated voltage as long as the current draw is equal to or less than its max spec. There is a slight variation between chargers output voltage but a few tenths of a volt won't do any damage.
I have charged all sorts of devices using the TP charger without issue. My Sansa Clip using a miniUSB cord, my Droid 3 using the HP cord. The microUSB plug is a standard so ports should be the same on all devices, but I really like miniUSB better. It seems like a more robust connection than micro which feels too small and flimsy.
My charger has a usb socket so I was able to swap out the micro usb charger - can you not do that?
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oh yea, obv i can just change the cable, and quite cheaply, but was just letting people know that the slot on the touchpad must be quite big relative to other devices (though i can only vouch for my incredible S).
i'll have to buy a new cable now, though - no biggy
Sand down those spiked nibs that are supposed to hold the cable in place, they are too big to be needed and cause extra wear and tear on the units usb socket.
Taking them down to about 50% size and making them not so sharp gives the cable a good fit where it wont come out easy but its not like pulling teeth.
I learned this with my N900 lots of users did it, and now I noticed the touchpad had the same kind of fit and cable, so I consider this a necessity if you want to prolong the life of your device and minimize the possibility of something happening like what happened to the OP, atleast for him it was the cable that gave out and not the micro sub port on his TP.
my cable stopped working a while ago so im just using my samsung and htc cable,samsung cable is a real nice fit better than the TP one.
The supplied TP cable is just a flimsy POS. I've bought dollar store cables that were higher quality.
I use the TP charger and the cable that came with my phone to charge both devices. I've been doing it for months with no ill effects to the phone.
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Micro USB is a horrid and fragile setup to begin with.
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yup my usb cable doesnt work anymore. I accidentally tripped over it lol
LOL good thing i bought 3 HP touchpad chargers over the weekend.
I actually lost the stock one.. so i 'stocked' up... just in case
Just FYI, the default AC adapter that comes with the TP has two parts.
The front part rotates to separate it from the base, if it's rotated a bit - it won't charge, so double check that the front (where the prongs are) are tightened properly.
Mine's developed the same fault using it on my Galaxy S2, it's now loose on all devices and I had to throw it away. I just think the quality's poor.
The HP cable for my TP stopped charging the device too, got in touch with support and a day later I received a shiny new replacement cable which *isn't* loose
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my usb cable stopped working too (yesterday).
Well, it works but i need to hold the cable in a particular way or it stops.
Did any of you buy a replacement? if ya which one.
Hmmm, I got the touchstone and haven't used the USB since, unless plugging in to the computer to move an update.zip over. Still tight fit, and with rom I'm running touchstone seems to charge the same as the actual charger that came with touchpad.
It is actually a fact that the stock USB cables are of poor quality. So ultimately its not your fault if it goes bad. Just use another micro USB cable (even cheap ones you find at the convenience stores works great) to charge your touchpad. I've been using my micro USB which came with my phone to charge my touchpad and I must say its a perfect fit for the touchpad.
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The Rezound has a very interesting Micro-USB port that seems to have the outer shape similar to Mini-USB, but with the Micro-USB guts. The cable that comes with the phone has a rectangular plug that seems a bit longer and fits perfectly into the phone's jack. In fact, its amazing... to get the phone connected to it, you have to push the connector in until it 'clicks' into place - very solid.
My wife's DINC suffers from a slutted-out socket that now barely works anymore due to the standard Micro-USB design that seems pretty fragile. Even though a standard Micro-USB fits into the Rezound's unique socket, it doesn't have the solid feel that the OEM version has.
Does anyone know what this newer style connector is called? I would like to find a couple more cables that are longer and feel that by using this type of connector, the Rezound's port should last the life of the phone.
Thanks in advance!!!
-M
It's an MHL plug and there is more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356346
Thanks dude...
A normal microUSB cable will still get the job done. It's just put in the reverse as it is on the Incredible. The tabs need to be facing up. I got 3 OEM HTC microUSB cables off ebay for like $7 bucks shipped. And the odd shaped end is probably some proprietary HTC connector, same as they had with the HeroCDMA with the miniUSB.
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It's an MHL plug and there is more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356346
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No, it's a micro-A USB receptacle that supports MHL. There's a difference.
I would rather have the MHL cable... Feels more secure when plugged in..
Has anyone been able to find one on the internet or in store?
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yeah the security of the MHL cable is worth not using a standard micro USB. for instance when you're using a car charger w/ a standard micro USB, the cable can tug a bit on the connector(depending on length of cable, placement of phone) and cause it to come loose & stop charging... but with the micro A USB(MHL) it's nice & secure and you don't have to worry about that happening.
Anybody have a part number for the OEM cable or best case know where to order it
The really annoying thing about the cable that comes with the phone is that you can't use it with any other micro-A/B USB ports. They seem to have intentionally shipped a cable that you can only use with this device, even though the device itself will take any micro USB plug. Thanks, HTC!
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The really annoying thing about the cable that comes with the phone is that you can't use it with any other micro-A/B USB ports. They seem to have intentionally shipped a cable that you can only use with this device, even though the device itself will take any micro USB plug. Thanks, HTC!
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The incredible will charge with the shipped Rezound charger, granted it's got the same port. I've been using my Thunderbolt charger, kindle charger and now BB charger while at work. All get the job done.
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The incredible will charge with the shipped Rezound charger, granted it's got the same port. I've been using my Thunderbolt charger, kindle charger and now BB charger while at work. All get the job done.
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I did say that any other micro USB cable would work on the phone. I have a charger from every blackberry I ever owned, the Inc charger, and a couple miscellaneous cables lying around. It's just that the one that comes with the Rezound now has to go in its own special pile of cables (all by itself) because I can't use it with any other devices. Did not try with the old phone, though. Interesting that you say HTC's physical mods to the micro USB port are the same on the Inc and Rezound, yet the Rezound ships with a proprietary cable and my Inc came with a standard micro USB plug. I'll check when I get home.
it does seem at least that yes, any microUSB cable will work with the Rezound for both charging it and connecting it to your PC.
for the most part, you really only need the MHL support if you plan on going through HDMI out, which you'd then need an MHL/HDMI adapter cable anyway.
the only benefit to the cable that comes with the Rezound is the "snug fit" bit. whereas, it'd be nice if they had a car charger with the exact same micro A USB end to it as i find that all standard micro USB car chargers aren't as snug and depending on phone placement/movement, the connection can get a bit 'loose' and sometime stop charging.
i used to use this motorola car charger but because of how the cable pulled, the connection would constantly come loose unless i used tape to hold it in place.
It's not an MHL port. It's HTC's proprietary ExtMicro-USB port first seen with the HTC Flyer. An MHL port is a standard 5pin Micro-USB A/B port that detects when an MHL adapter is used, and uses those same 5 pins to support HDMI output. If you look at MHL ports on phones like the Evo 4G and Galaxy S II, they are indistinguishable physically from standard Micro-USB B ports. HTC's ExtMicro-USB is compatible with 5pin Micro-USB cables and 5pin MHL adapters. In fact, if you look at the HTC MHL adapter, it's shaped like a standard Micro-USB plug and only has 5 pins. What's different about ExtMicro-USB is that it has some extra pins compared to standard Micro-USB and MHL. I believe it has 6 extra pins, for a total of 11 pins. Those 6 extra pins are not used for MHL, for the reasons stated above. I'm not certain what those pins are used for, but if it's the same as the older ExtUSB (which is compatible with Mini-USB), then those extra pins are used for analog audio output, for use with stereo headsets, etc.
Why would they send you a cable for anything other then the phone #dumb.
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Why would they send you a cable for anything other then the phone #dumb.
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The cable IS for the phone. You can use it to charge and sync. But the PORT can also be used to hookup an MHL adapter for HDMI output. That is IN ADDITION to charging or syncing via USB. The cable that comes with the phone just has a different connector yet is backwards compatable with any regular micro-USB cable.
I'm not sure why this is so confusing to people.
That being said...
Has anyone found a part number or where to buy cables with the non-standard connector?
I have plenty of micro-usb cables, and yes, they do work fine, but I am not confortable with how loose they are. WAY too much play. This especially worries me in the car.
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That being said...
Has anyone found a part number or where to buy cables with the non-standard connector?
I have plenty of micro-usb cables, and yes, they do work fine, but I am not confortable with how loose they are. WAY too much play. This especially worries me in the car.
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Yea I have been trying to find this too. I was sent the Rezound as a CLNR for my Charge so I didn't even get the original USB cable that comes with the phone when you buy it. Sure the micro-usb cables work, but they feel pretty loose compared to other phones that are designed for micro-usb specifically.
ok guys this is NOT an MHL cable. as said before there is nothing special at all about it besides that it is a snugger fit. any micro usb will work with MHL and you still need the converter.
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Anybody have a part number for the OEM cable or best case know where to order it
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It took some digging but here it is http://www.wirelessground.com/htcm400.html
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It took some digging but here it is http://www.wirelessground.com/htcm400.html
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thanks. I will have to check this one it out but HTC is kind of jerking our chain with the part number. Turns out they used to same part number on all their later model cables. I ordered 3 different HTC OEM cables and they do work for charging and data but none of them had the snug snap-in feel as the one that came with the phone.
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thanks. I will have to check this one it out but HTC is kind of jerking our chain with the part number. Turns out they used to same part number on all their later model cables. I ordered 3 different HTC OEM cables and they do work for charging and data but none of them had the snug snap-in feel as the one that came with the phone.
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I know what you mean. I put the part number in and the one that came with the Inc kept coming up. This one looks like it has the same shape as the one that comes with the Rezound.
As the stock USB cable just sucks when using the nook in portrait view while charging... is there a cable with an angled mini USB connector that can be used to charge the device (at full current)?
I have bought several off of ebay, some real cheap and only worked a couple of times and some that were inexpensive that are pretty good quality. I bought a couple of right angle and left angle from a seller (tigerdirect) and they have worked out well for me. I would also like to note that mini usb to micro usb adapters do not work for the nook.
Links?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cables-Go-Right-Angle-USB-2-0-A-Micro-B-Cable-USB-/350524636347?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ce57cbb
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6FT-USB-MICROUSB-B-/350517524453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519c78f7e5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6FT-USB-LEFT-ANGLE-MICRO-B-/320818032477?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab23eaf5d
This is a huge cable seller on ebay. Kind of hard to navigate through all the choices there are. I think they have over 45,000 items on ebay.
will these quick charge or slow?
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As the stock USB cable just sucks when using the nook in portrait view while charging... is there a cable with an angled mini USB connector that can be used to charge the device (at full current)?
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I feel that I should note, when I plug the charger for my Droid 3 into my nook, it does charge. It doesn't show as charging though. Under settings it actually specified NOT charging, but it charges none the less.
The cable for my droid is NOT angled, but this indicates that they are universal. Just a bit of related information
I was mainly concerned about the ability to charge the NT at full current* with a replacement cable (and an angled one, of course). However, the angled micro USB plugs I've seen so far, are still quite long and I wouldn't want to rest the NT on them while reading in portrait view. Now I am kind of curious if one could mod a separate charging jack into the device overcoming the major design flaw of USB charging...
*which, as indicated somewhere in the NT-cable-thread, could be a special feature of the proprietary design of the NT cable (though not sure either if that proprietarity goes for both sides the full sized and the micro USB)
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I was mainly concerned about the ability to charge the NT at full current* with a replacement cable (and an angled one, of course). However, the angled micro USB plugs I've seen so far, are still quite long and I wouldn't want to rest the NT on them while reading in portrait view. Now I am kind of curious if one could mod a separate charging jack into the device overcoming the major design flaw of USB charging...
*which, as indicated somewhere in the NT-cable-thread, could be a special feature of the proprietary design of the NT cable (though not sure either if that proprietarity goes for both sides the full sized and the micro USB)
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The stock cable has special circuitry and a longer 12 pin microusb end. It is the only way currently to get full high amp charging...any standard microusb will be limited to 500mA...standard USB charge limits. The only "special" thing about the stock brick is that the data pins are fully shorted.
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Trying to find out if there is such a thing as going from extmicro usb that the evo and flyer have to a usb type A (or any other normal usb).
Need a right angle to plug into tablet for car install and found that I can fit a microb angled cable into the tablet, but now need to take the car charges extusb and get an adapter to hook it all together.
You can just buy a regular micro USB extended cable. It fits in the flyer/view charge port.
Proprietary cable is the one on the right. Regular micro USB on left.
I am installing the tablet in dash of a car.
I have the oem car charger because its only one with right voltage. But I need a angled usb for clearance issues. So im trying to figure a way to go from the charger EXTMICRO usb to the angled usb.
Searched around and have come up completely empty.
I'm working on the same project and found this thread searching (again) for more info on extusb. The solution I came up with for getting enough clearance to use the port requires disassembly and if you plan on keeping the warranty, it's probably not a good option for you.
Anyway, my solution was to make some small right-angle brackets for the pcb that contains the extusb port. It requires material for the angle brackets and two small screws with nuts. See attached for a better idea.
I actually got the tablet installed and fairly well, but have since removed it to come up with better designs for charging, access to the power button (and possibly volume buttons) for recovery actions, turning the screen on/off with ignition, and potentially microphone relocation.
You may want to check out http://www.dealextreme.com/ for right-angle and other adapters if you don't want to open up the tablet.
PS: Protect that screen. The plastic is very soft and will easily scratch.
I don't follow.
I thought the HTC car charger was a plug with a USB port in it just like all the others. I thought this might help, but I probably have no idea what you're really looking for
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-Right-Angled-Micro/dp/B005EV2LAM
If you *need* to use the 12pin micro usb that the view has (which from my understanding was only there for the docking station utility), then you might be out of luck unless you can build something yourself.
Im looking for a cable like you linked to, but then I need a way to connect the flyers car charger special usb tip into it. Only way I can think of is to carefully grind the corners so that it will fit into a micro B female connection.
But the chargers are not cheap and if I F*** it up Im out $30
On a kia soul forum where others are planning on doing the same install with the flyer, one guy has come accross a company that makes custom cables. He said that if We send the car charger to them they will replace the usb tip with a micro B 90 degree angle for $25.
So A person is sending the charger to them to have it done and is going to let us know how it comes out.
jacobbones, can you provide a link to the kia soul flyer thread?
Yes, here it is.
http://www.soulhamsters.com/forum/i...ale-again-24feb-7-android-tablet-199-shipped/
Talk about the custom job is near the end of the posts
opening up the car charger and replacing the cable is incredibly simple. I have done it so many times, I can probably do it blindfolded. I actually had to go and replace the OEM chargers cable with the USB cable that it came with because my damn dog chewed threw the charger cable. Didn't come back very pretty, but it works, that charger has got the be the best charger built I have ever seen, incredibly difficult to open, but I'm sure the car charger is a lot easier to open, you just need a soldering gun and it should be easy.
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Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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I recently broke my Rezound's cable. Not the end of the world because the regular USB cables that pretty much all other phones use works. However it does have me wondering about the point of the special design. I can get a regular micro USB cable for $.99 on ebay but the specific rezound cable looks like it's around $6. Is it worth paying more to get it?
It's also Mini HDMI and designed that way to prevent port erosion too, actually a marvelous idea. It's a standard Micro USB port that you're acessibg for charging and data transfer though. Its made to have a regular micro USB cable used with it. Poor guy you've been strapped to that one cable the whole time you've had the phone?
I would get a high quality cable, and there's inexpensive ones, but there's no difference to the phone if your micro USB has the special socket on the end besides added strength but it's almost as strong with a regular micro USB. The crumby cheap cables that cause premature wear on the female USB port is what you want to avoid, the male plug wears down and then there's slack so you get extra movement which causes bending and flexing of the port at the board.
I bought a really solid, kind of expensive well reviewed cable on Amazon but the ends are extra long which causes the outer housing not to sit against the side of the phone and function as a brace, even on my girls night stand it started getting slack sooner than I wanted and showing wear.
My next order will be a batch of HTC OEM cables, they're just so solid and well made, but there are great aftermarket ones for 99 cents if you can find them and check them out in person or get recommendations. Window shopping online is a crap shoot, as far as generic stuff.
But yeah, definitely go with a good micro USB, no need for the special end for what you're doing with it especially if you're careful with your phone.
If you use your phone while it's charging and it's getting pressure on the USB cable and port, a ton of movement, or laid on top of often the rez charger (also on the HTC Incredible and other devices) might offer some advantages, that would be the only reason.
I'd spend $6 on an HTC cable, but I'd get a regular micro USB cable so I could use it with other devices too.
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