Hello Everyone,
So my first day using the Amaze I loved the phone and hated the battery life, with barely using it, bluetooth, wifi and gmail sync all off (no fb) I got about 3% by 5pm. So I am looking for extended battery and dont feel like spending $21 on Anker, specially that all Anker lovers are members since May 2011 or so, kinda fishy, so I looked at alternatives.
I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this battery:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Sensati...063195?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a6efb415b
It may be the same one Anker uses from the same manufacturer in China, I am guessing though, since they are both 1900mAH. For my G2 I got an extended battery from Hong Kong for $4 or $5 and it was excellent except that the door wore out, so I have no worries buying chinese/hk products on eBay.
Thanks!
I'm using an Anker battery and its amazing. That battery looks very generic. I wouldn't trust it.
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hasoon2000 said:
I'm using an Anker battery and its amazing. That battery looks very generic. I wouldn't trust it.
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I'm curious. Does your Anker battery drop from 100% to 94% in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes even without using the phone? I've finally had a chance to better compare stock and Anker batteries and I am getting better life out of stock; but it seems to be in the first 8% that makes the difference. The stock battery remains at 100% after a full charge for a good length of time, then slowly drops thru the 90's even while in use. The Anker battery literally drop 8% in minutes even without use, then slows to a "normal" rate after that. Could my battery just be defective in some manner?
gregb882 said:
I'm curious. Does your Anker battery drop from 100% to 94% in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes even without using the phone? I've finally had a chance to better compare stock and Anker batteries and I am getting better life out of stock; but it seems to be in the first 8% that makes the difference. The stock battery remains at 100% after a full charge for a good length of time, then slowly drops thru the 90's even while in use. The Anker battery literally drop 8% in minutes even without use, then slows to a "normal" rate after that. Could my battery just be defective in some manner?
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Mine does that as well. I bought it from eBay and told the seller. They sent me a new one and it happens. Mine goes from 100% to 92%. Then when I have about 20%, my phone will beep and say it has 14%. The battery is very strong at 14% but when it drops to 13%, then I have to charge it. But the battery gets me ALOT longer battery life than stock.
Anker Battery and Charger
I have been using the Anker battery on my Amaze. The battery charges in like 2-2 1/2 hours. The charge holds for up to 6-7 hours. I read review on Amazon that these batteries hold charge when you charge them with Anker charger and not while its inserted in your phone. I ordered the Anker Battery charger and have been charging the battery ever since. You will be amazed how long the battery lasts. I am a heavy user and the battery lasts for 8-9 hours now. And when I disable the background data during night, I don't have to charge the battery till next day.
Here is the link for the charger. You can also charge the OEM Battery with this charger.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Multi-P...CV7O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1328071542&sr=8-2
So based on all the positive feedback I didnt get the 2x battery + charger from the Chinese seller. Instead I opted for Los Angeles based Anker battery and paid sales tax and got the battery and charger in 2 days for about $21, almost triple the cost of the other one from ebay from my first post in this thread, which actually came with 2 batteries.
So I performed a scientific experiment today took notes and times and made sure things are going smooth. Fully charged the stock and Anker to 100%. Turned on all GPS, WiFi, Data Sync, Bluetooth, Screen Brightness to get the battery to die as fast as possible. Turned on Netflix and started watching Frazier on both batteries until they both died.
Here are the results:
Anker = 183 minutes to auto-shut off had 2:30 minutes of phone call in the middle, not counted in the 183 minutes.)
Stock Battery = 189 minutes to auto-shut-off (had 8 minutes of idle time in between two episodes of the show, not counted in the 189 minutes). The stock battery is about 2 months old, abused and recharged repeatedly in the car, charged when 50% full, disconnected and reconnected over and over in the car etc.
Both phones were in the exact same spot and connected to external speakers. Both experiments were started immediately after the phone was disconnected from the charger. Both were done on the same phone. So based on my experiment, I feel I simply got a second battery for $21 with a mediocre charger. Definitely NOT an extended battery. The Anker is definitely NOT an extended battery I would say its 1800mAh. (look up on eBay there are many 2800mAh batteries with "effective capacity" of 1800mAh). Just as I thought its simply a rebadged cheap $3 battery with white label and a made up brand name and I was duped, should've bought a $3.49 free shipping battery on eBay. Also the battery is about a hair taller than the stock battery so you have to kinda force it in the Amaze as it says right on top Sensation although it was sold as Amaze 4G battery, I don't care though.
On the positive side, the CHARGER can connect to your existing charger, pretty cool concept, although it may sound useless but its really useful in the car where I don't have 110v but I have a car charger that I can plug into this charger and use a second cable to connect the phone to this charger, this way I can charge both batteries while driving, one on the charger the second inside the phone connected to the Anker charger then connected to the car charger.
I should've bought this 2200mAh battery, probably better than the Anker.
I bought the Anker 1900 from amazon about a month ago. Like someone mentioned, if you charge the battery in charger, you will get better discharge rates.
Keep in mind this is done after I have done a five full charge/discharge cycles on the batteries.
Moderate & High use
Using daily roads manager (GPS, Camera 720p Video Recording) 40min|120min per charging cycle
Bluetooth,Wifi, and GPS always ON
Screen Brightness at 2% or 100%. on 2% 2/3 of the screen on time.
Accounts Sync set to Hourly
Text/MMS (<200|>200)
Youtube (30min|80min)
Moderate use Includes 8-10hrs on standby while I slept
Stock Battery
Charged to 100% on the phone
-Holds 100% charge for more than an hour on standby
-Drops to 92% after 20min drive to work
-Record uptime 20hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 10hrs with heavy use
Anker 1900
Charged to 96% on charger, topped off to 100% on the Phone
-Holds 100% after disconnecting for about 10mins on standby then starts dropping fast.
-Drops to 92% after 20min drive to work
-Record uptime 23hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 11hrs with heavy use
Charged on the Phone fully to 100%
-Drops to 95% before even getting to my car within 10 mins on standby
-Drops to 82% after 20 min drive to work
-Record uptime 8hrs with moderate use
-Record uptime 4hrs with heavy use
While I haven't performed qualitative experiments as several of you have, I can honestly say that after using the Anker battery long enough for it to go through numerous "cycles", it definitely lasts longer than stock. It still drops very quickly from 100% down to mid-90s within a few minutes even without using the device, but it used to drop to low 90s in that same period of time. Anyway, regardless of the odd characteristics, it seems to be a very good battery.
BTW, if you pay anywhere close to $21 for just the battery, you're getting ripped of by that retailer. You can easily find it online for $15, and you can often find 2 batteries with the charger for $30. (Actually, Amazon has 1 battery & the charger for $19 right now, see http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh...LR66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328364737&sr=8-1.) I wasn't that patient so I got one battery and the charger for $28 back in early January, but I honestly wouldn't bother with the charger if I had to do it over again. But that's just me, others have reported it as being great benefit so it probably depends on your situation.
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BTW, if you pay anywhere close to $21 for just the battery, you're getting ripped of by that retailer. You can easily find it online for $15, and you can often find 2 batteries with the charger for $30.
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I did get the $18.99 with charger and yes I was ripped off and paid close to $21 because my wonderful state of CA charges me an arm and a leg for sales tax. Also there is only one seller for Anker on both eBay and Amazon thats laptopmate, same price both on eBay and Amazon except that on Amazon is free supersaver shipping meaning you have to spend $25 to get free shipping but on eBay you don't. Laptopmate ships from a house neat los Angeles which maybe someone who bought a lot and imported from China and now selling them on eBay and Amazon for good profit because I don't see it being any better than the $3.49 and $6.02 batteries I posted above. When I got an extended battery for my old G2 it lasted me over twice as long but made the phone larger.
Seems charging this battery I'm the charger that came with it will give you the best discharge rates. Below is light use, with Wifi,BT, and gps on the whole time. Used it only for dash cam for about 2 hours off and on.
When I tried charging the battery on the phone only, I'd be lucky if I can hit 10 hours.
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I bought this battery for my HTC Amaze 4G (I love this phone!!!) and on my first full discharge cycle, the charge dropped from 100% to 95% in 3 minutes. It seemed to skip 99% through 96%. It then continued to discharge rapidly until around the mid 70's when it kind of starts to slow down.
By the 50% mark, it seems to discharge at a normal rate. During this cycle, I had my Bluetooth on for the 1 hour drive to and from work +1 drive into work on the day it ran out completely. Talk time was around 15 mins in mixed Bluetooth, handset, and speaker phone. About 3 hours of surfing, facebook, gtalk, Globe and Mail news app, and watched a couple of Youtube videos. I sent and received email and calendar notifications (sound+vibrate) almost every 30 mins. I turned off Wifi if I wasn't near any hotspot. I used Bluetooth tethering for about 45 mins. It was in airplane mode between 2 am and 6 am.
By the 20% mark, the discharge rate was very slow. It took another 3 hours before it reached 4% when the phone automatically powered off. Before it did that, I was able to take a picture of it with my webcam (attached) where it shows it has been on for 28 hours.
I am getting the same from my stock battery, and am happy with it anyway, so honestly, I cannot tell if this is really a 1900Mah battery inside. I will keep using it for a week. If it does not improve, I will switch back to my stock battery because that seems to discharge at a more constant rate.
What brand is it? Is it an anker?
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What brand is it? Is it an anker?
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Well I have an Anker but I didn't get it for $7.99. That's a great deal. I have 2 of them and they host last a fair amount of time.
I just ordered this external battery you might like something like this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y4VTJU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
My shopping research pointed me out that this would be best for me because:
1. Pocket size battery perfect for on the go to.... anywhere!
2. Charge it in the wall with your htc charger instead of camping by an outlet with your phone if you need to be on it.
3. 5600mAh battery (should charge the amaze about 3 times)
4. Higher voltage (in amps) for faster charging than many other external batteries... I recently bought another external battery off ebay that doesnt even output enought power to charge my phone on standby becareful about this!
There were many others on amazon by anker and powergen, that are I guess name brand?? who have 100-300+ count of customer reviews if thats what you are looking for, I decided to try this brand because it was the best price for the value... Ill let you know how it is when I get it in the mail if you'd like
If you choose to go with this brand check the dimensions they have different width x length x heights for the same size mAh battery (this is the slimmest but longest one of the 5600 mAh) and check the picture for a micro usb port some of their descriptions will say they do but then have a MINI usb port!!
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I just ordered this external battery you might like something like this, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Y4VTJU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
My shopping research pointed me out that this would be best for me because:
1. Pocket size battery perfect for on the go to.... anywhere!
2. Charge it in the wall with your htc charger instead of camping by an outlet with your phone if you need to be on it.
3. 5600mAh battery (should charge the amaze about 3 times)
4. Higher voltage (in amps) for faster charging than many other external batteries... I recently bought another external battery off ebay that doesnt even output enought power to charge my phone on standby becareful about this!
There were many others on amazon by anker and powergen, that are I guess name brand?? who have 100-300+ count of customer reviews if thats what you are looking for, I decided to try this brand because it was the best price for the value... Ill let you know how it is when I get it in the mail if you'd like
If you choose to go with this brand check the dimensions they have different width x length x heights for the same size mAh battery (this is the slimmest but longest one of the 5600 mAh) and check the picture for a micro usb port some of their descriptions will say they do but then have a MINI usb port!!
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Anker is a trusted brand as is Mungen. I don't know about any of the others. I'd be suspicious of any battery that was that cheap and suspect it to be a fake. High-quality batteries will usually cost 15-20 at least.
5600 mAH is the charge it holds but the efficiency will always make the effective charging power less. Depending on the native voltage/amps of the device, you will lose anywhere from 20-40% off the maximum rating from things like heat.
Higher voltage in amps will also shorten your battery's lifespan. Not by much but that's the tradeoff you get for the convenience.
I just have 2 anker batteries I switch out constantly on my amaze. If I'm stuck somewhere, my Amaze will be heavily used and it only lasts about 4 hours under heavy use with my Anker. It's good to have another one and another battery is less bulky than most chargers.
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Anker is a trusted brand as is Mungen. I don't know about any of the others. I'd be suspicious of any battery that was that cheap and suspect it to be a fake. High-quality batteries will usually cost 15-20 at least.
5600 mAH is the charge it holds but the efficiency will always make the effective charging power less. Depending on the native voltage/amps of the device, you will lose anywhere from 20-40% off the maximum rating from things like heat.
Higher voltage in amps will also shorten your battery's lifespan. Not by much but that's the tradeoff you get for the convenience.
I just have 2 anker batteries I switch out constantly on my amaze. If I'm stuck somewhere, my Amaze will be heavily used and it only lasts about 4 hours under heavy use with my Anker. It's good to have another one and another battery is less bulky than most chargers.
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Just got my ezo battery today it works great, solo charging is almost as fast as the wall charge and I can charge 2 devices at once.
I'm using an "EC" brand 1900mAH battery that I bought for 7.99 in July of this year right after I got my AMAZE4G. I bought it on Amazon.com, and yesmin my experience it does last longer than the OEM battery. I have no idea how much longer it will last, but so far, so good.
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Hi guys
I'm an iphone 3gs owner at the mo but my contract is up in a week and after doing A LOT of research over the past 3 weeks, i was pretty much decided that the GS2 was gonna be my next phone.
Then i foolishly visited the xda forums! lol (in fairness, it probably still will be my next phone).
But seriously though, setting aside the various issues some people are clearly having (reboots, battery drain, etc) what shocked me the most was hearing about the low-powered charging mechanism (apologies if i've gotten this slightly wrong).
I've heard that it only charges at ~650mah, but that the phone can easily surpass this under load (~850mah?), meaning that you could be charging the phone at the same time as using it, only to find the battery going DOWN. Can someone confirm if this is true? If it is, then i'm gobsmacked that Samsung could make such a c0ck-up. Imagine if you're using the GPS (a real battery hog) while driving (and plugged-in to the ciggy lighter) only to find that the battery dies before you get to your destination! lol. I've heard about the heat this puppy produces, i wonder did they limit the juice to stop it from burning a hole through the floor
Even though i'm bored to t1ts with my iphone (and i hate apple), what i love about it is that when i don't actually use the phone for extended periods of the day (which is quite often, due to work) it still retains it's charge really well (i get insanely good battery life). I would be really annoyed if i found the GS2 battery dropping any more than, say, 30% over the course of a busy working day (say 9am to 7pm) with virtually no use.
So, to finally get to my point! My iphone charges REALLY fast. I'm worried that it will take a stupidly long time to fully charge the GS2. Can some kind person please do an experiment for me, and see how long it takes theirs to fully charge (from fully dead to 100%) with the screen off and the phone not doing anything major in the background?
Also, it would be good to know how this compares to the GS2's competitors.
Sorry for the long post guys!
my phone is at 33% at 8:08
Will let you know how I get on. I have it on charge now
I think mine takes around 3 hours from empty using samsungs supplied charger but I will try to do a test for a more accurate time. How does this compare to the iphone?
Yep mine takes about 3 hours as well from empty to about 90% using the wall charger, then it goes on trickle charge the rest of the way. This is on standby as well.
Yepp takpes about 3 hours to get fully charged. however, i've been using the phone as a wifi hotspot all the time and yes, it increases charging time but it doesn't really matter when it takes so long anyways
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my phone is at 33% at 8:08
Will let you know how I get on. I have it on charge now
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65% at 9am
It takes almost 3.5-4 hours to charge it with stock charger from empty to full.
It takes a bit more than 5 hours to charge from empty full using USB charging in my laptop.
Found out the hard way:
Charging with original EU charger AND heavy use (downloading, Wifi tethering, map ops etc.) MADE it drain faster than charging.
Two nights before left it during night with orig. charger and made it in 8 hrs only to 84% while on.
With Hama 0,8 amps charger full in 2hrs from empty and stays full even with heavy work.
NO heat issue though !
Methinks the charger is crap
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doesn't really matter which charger. got the nokia 1,2A charger and it takes nearly 3 hours as well to fully charge the battery.
I use my ipad charger with it and its definitely more like 2 hours not 3
My car usb adapter is 1amp and has no problem keeping it fully charged while using sygic satnav
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troed said:
Found out the hard way:
Charging with original EU charger AND heavy use (downloading, Wifi tethering, map ops etc.) MADE it drain faster than charging.
Two nights before left it during night with orig. charger and made it in 8 hrs only to 84% while on.
With Hama 0,8 amps charger full in 2hrs from empty and stays full even with heavy work.
NO heat issue though !
Methinks the charger is crap
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Is this an ebay job to get one of these?
Any idea what the max amps the phone can take? I've been looking around, seen chargers up to 2 amps, but don't want to ruin the phone...
Edit: Sorry, posted too soon. Just saw this thread, and the battery has is rated at 1000mA, so ya, don't use a 2 amp charger
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Any idea what the max amps the phone can take? I've been looking around, seen chargers up to 2 amps, but don't want to ruin the phone...
Edit: Sorry, posted too soon. Just saw this thread, and the battery has is rated at 1000mA, so ya, don't use a 2 amp charger
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if you look thru the battery driver source code, samsung capped the charging at 650 mA it seems. not sure why, other android phones use the full 1 amp.
so samsung either saw a heat problem and lowered it, or that's just the way they do their phones charging. who knows.
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if you look thru the battery driver source code, samsung capped the charging at 650 mA it seems. not sure why, other android phones use the full 1 amp.
so samsung either saw a heat problem and lowered it, or that's just the way they do their phones charging. who knows.
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Wow, ok. As someone who uses 3G a lot when our internet connection goes down (all too often), I hope the charge will end up keeping up with the battery drain. Otherwise I'll be tempted to change that source and probably end up frying my phone (if it ever gets in stock :|)
Thanks for the info
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-x1900mA...J5Q4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1320242216&sr=8-6
I just got these from Amazon and the charger that it came with is JUNK!
It has sliding pins and no instructions on how to charge the batteries.
I used the samsung battery charger to charge it, when the charger saids its charged, I put in the 1st battery and saw that it was only 89% on the phone. I hope this means that the samsung battery charger will only charge up to 1650mAh and there is extra juice on these Ankers.
I will continue to test it out and will update.
I bought these too. To use the charger, slide the pins to the right so that they line up with the copper contacts labeled + and -. I think when you have the contacts on the top right, it is the right most, and then second from the left. Slide the bottom of the charter down and stick the battery in with the pine touching those 2 contacts.
Now, that being said, the light indicated on my charger stopped working after 2 days, so I just leave them in overnight. Also, you can't charge them in the att phone or you get a boot loop. But the batteries themselves seem to last.
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How is these batteries working out for you?
It seems WAY too complicated to use the charger which came with it. Does it matter if the left pin is connected to + or - as I can easily flip the battery around.
I am now charging it with the charger which I got with the GTMax batteries, its slow (Output 4.2V 350mA), but it seems to be charging it to 100% instead of the battery charger from Samsung. (Output: 4.2V 400mA 600mA) (89% for some reason, I have not tried again)
I am getting decent battery life out of it as of now, but have not try it enough for a good review. The product does say that the battery will perform better after 4 charges. Since I have 2 of these, they are lasting around 30 hours each,. its taking me time to cycle through it. Is it reallt 1900mA which should last around 15% better than the OEMs.
I will post my findings when I have tested this enough.
I dont know the rest of you, but I like not charging with the phone charger at all. Its takes seconds to pop in a new battery and I am good for another 20-30hours depeding of the battery. No time off for my phone Also, I dont want to change the backing for extending battery which diminished the thin aspects of this phone. (I just carry a spare and it will for SURE last at least 24 with heavy use; greater than 6 hours of screen time if not more)
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they are lasting around 30 hours each
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30 HOURS!!!! Wow. I am lucky if I get 8 out of these or the stock battery. Are you using bluetooth?
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Does it matter if the left pin is connected to + or - as I can easily flip the battery around.
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It does matter. The right hand pin (when you are looking at the front of the charger) is +.
When you hold the Anker battery face forwards and upright, you can see the +- markings on the battery. This is the direction to use in the charger. I have not yet bought (or seen) the adapter from Seidio which is supposed to their charger work for this sized battery.
I was originally getting 12 hours until 0% battery left. After I shut down all the background syncs, wirless, gps, bluetooth..etc, and installed juiceDefender, I was able to get to about 20 hours with the OEMs. That means, 20hrs with minimal use and it would be dead/unusable at that point.
Then I follow the rooting and de-bloating the i777 and it gets my phone up to 30 hours until dead with normal use. This is around 3 hours of screen time. It would be great if I can ge to about 40 hours..
After a week of use, these batteries seems to last. I think they are as good as the OEMs or maybe 5-10% better. I have also notice that the weight on these ankers are a bit heavier too. Not sure if that means it contains more juice or not.
I have JUNKed the charger that came with it, as its just not user friendly. I been using the GTMax wall charger and its been fine. It take like 6-8 hours to completely charge. (I have not tried again with the Samsung wall charger as the 1st time only charges it up to 89%)
If you are like me, who don't like to chain the phone to the wall and prefer to swap out batteries, then these are good. I hope it there are a lot of cycles life with them.
I travel a lot and with every swap, I get abother 30 hours of moderate use (3 hours of screen time). Under heavy use, I get about 20 hours (4+ hours on wifi)
Just gonna review some of the accessories I have used and what i think about 'em
First up is the 3500mAH extended battery by HHI
This battery came in at a cost of $9.99 with free Shipping! It showed up with an 80% charge which is in the acceptable range of where they like to sit. The battery performs just as one would expect it too. I am currently running MeanRom, and can easily get 16-20 hours of use with some really heavy gaming. However I recently went on a vacation and wanted to run the battery through a couple different variations of "discharging". So with the phone in Airplane mode(no radios connected) and very little use i easily can get a week out of the phone without charging. Again this is without any radios on, not connecting to anything.The stock battery cant touch these numbers. i would be lucky to get a full day out of the stock battery with no gaming and normal use.I didn't do a sticker pull to run the numbers. So I'm taking HHI's word on the 3500mAH being just that.
To conclude on this battery the $10 investment turned out to be a good choice, although it might not be a seidio or something it does more than i expected it to do. I will continue to use this battery till I get rid of the phone. The battery can be found here.
To continue on the batteries,
I also bought some of the Galilio "2000mAH" batteries, I got 3 of them with a wall charger for $13.99 on ebay, as reviewed by many others.
This is my experience with them. So they showed up in the mail and upon opening them i discovered one of the batteries look like it got dropped or skipped accross the cement, im not sure what happened, but who is gonna put a messed up battery in their phone.. So i really only got 2 batteries. I brought it up to the seller he offered me $3.00 back, it wasn't worth my time even dealing with that any further at this point. Anyways the batteries Are nice little backup batteries i take with me on trips.They make for easy backup batteries. The batteries have been suspected to be somewhere along the lines of 1000-1200mAH. I would have to agree, even with no testing with any type of tool, besides my phone. They last a most couple of hours. The wall charger that came with them actually surprised me. Everyone was reporting that it may overcharge your stock battery, which can cause some issues. This charger(as pictured below) will charge the Galilio batteries to 100% with no problems. I put my stock HTC battery into the wall charger and with repeated attempts the charger will not charge the battery past 85% even when i left it on the wall charger for 2 days. I do believe that the stock HtC charger that came with the phone gives the batteries a "better" charge, but the wall charger seems to not charge the batteries past a safe range as everyone seems to be reporting as a possible issue. My issue is it doesn't charge it well enough.
I've attached some pictures of the battery results and of the batteries.
Reserved for more... case reviews coming up next
i got the 3500 mAh from HHI. great battery, even better price.
Yea that battery is awesome!
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Going to try this battery out. Thanks for the review.
The 85% is charge limit is what a cheap charger do,
The "charger" that come with the phone is simply a power supply, the charging circuit is actually "built in" to the phone. You can connect the OEM HTC charger/power supply into one of those cheap aftermarket dock that charge a 2nd battery and it will never charge the battery past 85% either.
To make it short and sweet
There's 2 stage of Li-ion charging
1) charge to 4.2v at constant current which is 85% when it first reach/near 4.2v
2) saturation charge, once the battery reach 4.2v, continue charging but at gradually reducing current until it reach about 3% of default charge current
Cheap charger have a simple/cheap circuit and cannot do stage 2 charging, where the charging circuit built into each phone would do stage 2 charging
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
bitslizer said:
The 85% is charge limit is what a cheap charger do,
The "charger" that come with the phone is simply a power supply, the charging circuit is actually "built in" to the phone. You can connect the OEM HTC charger/power supply into one of those cheap aftermarket dock that charge a 2nd battery and it will never charge the battery past 85% either.
To make it short and sweet
There's 2 stage of Li-ion charging
1) charge to 4.2v at constant current which is 85% when it first reach/near 4.2v
2) saturation charge, once the battery reach 4.2v, continue charging but at gradually reducing current until it reach about 3% of default charge current
Cheap charger have a simple/cheap circuit and cannot do stage 2 charging, where the charging circuit built into each phone would do stage 2 charging
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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im just saying its not gonna over charge your battery like everyone warns you about all over the place lol
Makis709 said:
Going to try this battery out. Thanks for the review.
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Awesome!!! its well worth it!!
For those of you who have the wireless charger. Do you notice a significant battery life shortage when you charge the phone using the wireless charger? Ever since I use the wireless charger, the battery life doesn't seem to last as long as charging the phone using the traditional route.
texonex said:
For those of you who have the wireless charger. Do you notice a significant battery life shortage when you charge the phone using the wireless charger? Ever since I use the wireless charger, the battery life doesn't seem to last as long as charging the phone using the traditional route.
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I just got mines today from AT&T. Will keep an eye on how it last and let ya know.
I've been using the charging stand for a week or so and haven't noticed any difference.
I've been using mine for over a week, and I've noticed the phone charges faster than with the USB cable (to the wall outlet), and the battery charge seems to last just as long... maybe you have a bad battery?
also, I found this on wikipedia about the qi standard: "Regulation of the output voltage is provided by a digital control loop where the power receiver [phone] communicates with the power transmitter[charger] and requests more or less power. "
I have a thin plastic case. Do I need to take the case of to charge the phone? want to know before I buy
I've actually seen a slight improvement when using the charging plate. Through my typical usage during the day (7 a.m. through 6 p.m.) I was coming home with 50% battery. Now, I'm coming home with about 70%.
Don't be too impressed though. I don't use push on anything at all, and I don't use any kind of social media.
I'm betting you have a defective unit. My first 920 did exactly this. I would set in on the plate, take note of the battery percentage, take a 10 minute shower, come back, and the percentage jumped from 88% to 100%. There's no way it could charge that fast. Not even the USB cable can charge it that quickly and that charges at a higher amperage and voltage than the plate. Sometimes I saw it jumping from 95% to 100% in a matter of seconds. So I called AT&T and after countless hours of talking with employees that knew nothing, I finally was put on to someone who helped me get the phone exchanged. My new 920 does not have this problem and a full charge on the plate lasts just as long as on the plug. My first 920 barely made it 8 hours with normal use (texting mostly). My new 920 makes it past my 8 hour shift with 75% to spare.
Had to replace mine. White light on the plate came on but no response on phone. Wireless charging coil was faulty... Inductive charging failed and that sucks... It wasn't a bad flaw but when I spend 450 I want a functioning device. Now, I have it.
Nissan350 said:
I'm betting you have a defective unit. My first 920 did exactly this. I would set in on the plate, take note of the battery percentage, take a 10 minute shower, come back, and the percentage jumped from 88% to 100%. There's no way it could charge that fast. Not even the USB cable can charge it that quickly and that charges at a higher amperage and voltage than the plate. Sometimes I saw it jumping from 95% to 100% in a matter of seconds. So I called AT&T and after countless hours of talking with employees that knew nothing, I finally was put on to someone who helped me get the phone exchanged. My new 920 does not have this problem and a full charge on the plate lasts just as long as on the plug. My first 920 barely made it 8 hours with normal use (texting mostly). My new 920 makes it past my 8 hour shift with 75% to spare.
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Hmmm, I will have to call AT&T for the warranty exchange. Thanks
Last night the phone had 20 something, usually uses 4% per night, this morning 0, no battery OFF
I have been using MPJ battery without problems so far, it takes more charge than the original and lasts longer
2 hours charging, only 28%, something is wrong, I will take a spare battery when I go out, later will try with original to see if the problem is the battery or the phone...
samlg said:
try to change charger or usb cable first
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The cable was not connected during the night, when it discharged, any way now it seems ok, only lost 2% in about 5 hours, no use ither than checking the time and battery load
But there is a bad contact on the USB plug, sometimes I have to fiddle with it to get contact...
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Again, this time stranger, no apps on battery usage, but battery was discharging faster than usual and died at 7 am with a beep that awakened me, with still over 20% charge
-First screenshot, it died sometime the previous night, so I charged to 30%, then nothing showing, but kept the 30% charge until I charge it again around 16:00.
-Second screenshot, it has "blanks" on the chart, never noticed that before.
-Third screenshot, using more than usual during the night, it uses between 3% and 5%, and at 20% it just dies, now I put back the original battery to test, but it seems to be using more than usual
people should know MPJ battery's is trash, isnt worth the money because some weeks after they will be worst and worst!! i personnaly prefer to buy a original battery as a spare one, they are cheap now, with 19€ in LG spares site you can buy one or two and swap them, is easy, and buy a external charger from ebay or something (because LG spares site dont have that on sale i dont know why).
i will buy the external charger and one or two spare battery's soon because my battery is discharging too fast, now with 2h of videocall in skype my phone goes from 100 to 46 quickly. in the first two months i have almost 6h SoT and now i cant go longer than 4h.
sun_is_shinning said:
people should know MPJ battery's is trash, isnt worth the money because some weeks after they will be worst and worst!! i personnaly prefer to buy a original battery as a spare one, they are cheap now, with 19€ in LG spares site you can buy one or two and swap them, is easy, and buy a external charger from ebay or something (because LG spares site dont have that on sale i dont know why).
i will buy the external charger and one or two spare battery's soon because my battery is discharging too fast, now with 2h of videocall in skype my phone goes from 100 to 46 quickly. in the first two months i have almost 6h SoT and now i cant go longer than 4h.
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The MPJ was offered to me for free to do a test, it was fine until now, I am not yet sure if it is the battery, will let you know when I am sure
By the way Android OS battery use is way down with the original battery
melorib said:
The MPJ was offered to me for free to do a test, it was fine until now, I am not yet sure if it is the battery, will let you know when I am sure
By the way Android OS battery use is way down with the original battery
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the MPJ battery's degradate with time, the real mah's decrease every charge. - i know what i say because i use one with my G3 almost 1 year ago and the battery is really worst than the original one!
one usefull app to have to know when your phone is 100% charge with the real mah's count is AccuBattery from playstore, there you find the real capacity of battery as welll their health...
you never should unplug the phone when the 100% pop-up shows full charged, you need to keep it from more one hour to get the full mah's and a good charge, i do this all the time and get some good battery with the original.
LG's battery isnt the best in the world but is better than MPJ for sure, i dont want a brick but if i need a excelent battery ZeroLemon 9000mah is a excelent battery, unfortunnaly they dont do the standard capacity 3000 mah for V10 only the 9000 mah...but this turn the phone is a heavy weight brick.
- see my yesterday - today full charge screens, for me is good enough!!!
P.S: The skype time is all in videocall. idk why details show only 47 minutes of camera usage!!!
In the garbage
Everything seems to be working fine with the original battery, MPJ in the garbage where it belongs, wont risk testing again
Even the "bad contact on the USB plug" was the battery failing