[Q] Which ROM has the smallest footprint? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just got a new Thunderbolt yesterday. Downgraded, S-off and rooted as soon as I got it home. Trying to figure out which ROM I would like to use and figured my best bet would be to use Boot Manager to be able to multi-boot different ROMs. My thinking is to use the smallest ROM as the primary to free up as much memory in the phone as I can.
If my logic is flawed, please explain to me why.
I came from an EVO 4G that I had been running CM7 on for the last 8 months or so, after having tried many other ROMs.

Dont know about footprint size, but shiftsense is fast with amazimg batt life using imo lean kernel
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[Q] Overclocking possible in 2.1?

I'm trying to overclock in 2.1 liberated, but I can only get underclocking.
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darknessrise1234 said:
I'm trying to overclock in 2.1 liberated, but I can only get underclocking.
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You could try a new rom like Cyanogen mod 7. It should work. Also use setcpu with it.
2.1? Time for a new ROM! From what I understand Gene's latest ROM supports overclocking, if you want to keep Sense on your phone.
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I'm trying to overclock in 2.1 liberated, but I can only get underclocking.
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Its dependent on the kernel, not the rom. If the kernel doesn't support higher frequencies then you wont be able to overclock. I'm not aware of any overclock kernels for 2.1 on the aria but somebody else might.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
Only reason I stay on 2.1 is 2.2/2.3 aren't smooth for me. But isn't it possible to edit the sense kernel to support overclocking?
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darknessrise1234 said:
Only reason I stay on 2.1 is 2.2/2.3 aren't smooth for me. But isn't it possible to edit the sense kernel to support overclocking?
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Yes and this was already done in new roms (Cyanogen mod) based off of an overclockable kernel.
Okay. I need a 2.1 compatible OC kernel. Not CM
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darknessrise1234 said:
Only reason I stay on 2.1 is 2.2/2.3 aren't smooth for me. But isn't it possible to edit the sense kernel to support overclocking?
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There is no reason to stay with 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 are hella smooth on this phone.
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Not for me >.> I despise this phone and largely regret getting it honesty.
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This is no phone to regret getting
Try cm7 with my custom kernel, it's very smooth.
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Thats just it. I want a smooth sense, but that's like impossible with this phone.
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I put the Liberated ROM on my gf's phone and it runs nicely, without overclocking. Throw in setCPU and there should be not much that can slow it down.
Ehh. I think ill just go back to an iPhone or maybe stick with getting the Inspire. This phone ruined Android for me.
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Well with that attitude you might aswell get an iPhone, it seems to fit your personality better.
Having said that... normal 2.1 sense without OC is smooth as butter, as is liberated 2.2.2 with and without OC. Or, if sense is what you're complaining about, install CM7 like others have suggested to eliminate it entirely.
I'm sorry you don't like your phone. I always like to try mine out at the store before I buy them.
Well where I got my phone they don't let you try them out. I was just going by what people said on here and else where for my phone choosing.
But the main issue is, I use my phone like a laptop almost. I check xda all the time. I use it for entertainment. I text almost 24/7. I also use it as my only music player, as my mp3 players never last long. But then phone doesn't perform well enough in most or all categories. Iphones kind of do, but I consider them overrated and bland. Even with jailbreak. I like HTC sense because its got enough eye candy, and its very user friendly. I also prefer CM7 as well due to its blazing speeds. But I want to have a phone that suits most of my needs, and I don't know if my thoughts on the inspire are correct or not, but I think it would suit me perfect, as the aria definitely does not.
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You would be better suited to get a phone with a larger screen and armv7 processor. The inspire has both of these although the battery life is not as great out of the box. I would also recommend the Samsung captivate, as it has a super amoled screen but not front facing camera. CM7 has just added support for it as well.
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Well I don't really need the super quality screen of the captivate, as I'm not a freak on screen quality. But I'm near my charger quite a bit, so bl isn't a giant issue either. My biggest issue is speed and screen size. I have to type in landscape with the aria or I mess up every other word.
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I suggested the Captivate because it has an arguably better screen and can be had for cheaper than the inspire. The inspire will seem awkwardly huge coming from the aria (3.2" vs 4.3"), where as the captivate is still a step up at 4" but easier to handle with one hand. Also with ARMv7 processors you get REAL flash support (10.1+) whereas the Aria (and any other ARMv6 phone) only gets Flash lite 3.1(?) this is a huge caveat for me and will probably be my excuse to upgrade.
Well when I first got the aria, it was because looked down on touchwiz. I wanted a phone I could like out of the box, then root it for more fun. The aria sort of hit that spot, but I think the inspire will hit it out of the park. I really like sense, and thats my main reason for getting a sense phone.
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Well now I'm checking out the atrix. 50$ upgrade refurbished, sounds nice to me. Future proof myself and get rid of blur and well be all good. Right?
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Most cm7-like rom?

Guys, my new S2 arrives next week. What's the best, fastest, cleanest rooted ROM?
Used all sorts on my Desire and settled on Cm7. Hate Miui.
What's out there? Needs to be very stable and have decent battery life too and 100% functional.
Also not heard much off app and data 2 sd. Are these no longer needed given the galaxy has more internal storage?
Suggestions?
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landwomble said:
Guys, my new S2 arrives next week. What's the best, fastest, cleanest rooted ROM?
Used all sorts on my Desire and settled on Cm7. Hate Miui.
What's out there? Needs to be very stable and have decent battery life too and 100% functional.
Also not heard much off app and data 2 sd. Are these no longer needed given the galaxy has more internal storage?
Suggestions?
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ummm..why not cm7?
Yea if you are settled on CM7 then the nightlies apparently work fine here. They don't have a "stable" yet but I always used the nightlies on my Nexus S and had little to no issues.
I too hate MIUI so if you have tastes like me maybe give VillianROM a try. That's what I'm going to try out first when my sgs2 comes next week.
landwomble said:
Guys, my new S2 arrives next week. What's the best, fastest, cleanest rooted ROM?
Used all sorts on my Desire and settled on Cm7. Hate Miui.
What's out there? Needs to be very stable and have decent battery life too and 100% functional.
Suggestions?
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I had sort of similar needs
1. CM is not fully stable and fn for everyones needs. However i occasionally try it. I am sure in the coming weeks it will be very stable.
2. I now use gingermod rom by luca. Very much like asop rom , but the best thing is that he has made samsung apps into invidual packages. So u can install the things u need.
eg: samsung drive is such a useful thing.
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ummm..why not cm7?
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Thanks guys. I'll go cm7 when officially released I guess. In the.meantime will checkout your suggestions.
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I used cm7 on my nexus one, however i prefer rooted and modified stock on my sgs s2.
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Thanks. Do I need to worry about a2sd/d2sd with the Galaxy S2? It was essential on the Desire - I had a 750mb ext 3 partition to use for apps. Do I need to do this on the S2?
you will have about 1.5GB in your SGSII
Cm7 is good, only problems are fm radio doesn't work, and bluetooth audio doesn't work, and file transfers are slow.
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Cheers. Unfortunately every one of those is a dealbreaker! Looking like gingermod will be first to go on there...

Question for the thunderbolt community

Hey everyone, I am going to be trading some services (a mechanic is doing my breaks in exchange for me rooting and custom romming his lady's phone) and would like to know what your opinion is on the best thunderbolt ROMs available? She is currently on stock software and hates absolutely everything about her phone and how it behaves.
What would you guys recommend? I'm looking for functionality, reliability, battery life and the smallest amount of software bugs as possible.
Tweaked stock ROMs? AOSP? CM7 or 9? I know nothing about the thunderbolt community and would greatly appreciate any info you can give me.
Thank you everyone
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EmperorX said:
Hey everyone, I am going to be trading some services (a mechanic is doing my breaks in exchange for me rooting and custom romming his lady's phone) and would like to know what your opinion is on the best thunderbolt ROMs available? She is currently on stock software and hates absolutely everything about her phone and how it behaves.
What would you guys recommend? I'm looking for functionality, reliability, battery life and the smallest amount of software bugs as possible.
Tweaked stock ROMs? AOSP? CM7 or 9? I know nothing about the thunderbolt community and would greatly appreciate any info you can give me.
Thank you everyone
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Leaving it on a stock rom unless you plan on maintaining the rom for her..If she has no idea what shes doing then dont cause a headache for yourself, with techs its nothing to change out a rom, or if it gets buggy, well you get the point... the best thing would be a factory reset, or check the memory on the phone she prob has to many apps, install the apps from the sd card to free up the memory cuz im on a stock rom and its way fast, great battery, most of all the battery issues are from apps..just trying to save you a down the road..
I would go to the dev section of this forum and look at the ROMs and see what catches your eyes its opinion over opinion when saying stock is better than custom tons, I myself like custom roms because you can choose a wide variety of tweaks etc etc
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LiquidRom 3.2 and use Rom Tool box built in to download pink theme, use built in theme chooser and apply theme, the get a pink keyboard skin and appy. Btw you can customize splash screen and bootanimation to her liking with Rom Tool box too. No bugs for me.
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Thanks for the info so far. Any other suggestions?
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I use SkyRaider Zeus. Has an option to switch radio to 3g when screen is off which improved my battery life immensely.
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You want no problems use zues.
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Definitely a stock based ROM, like Zues. AOSP's battery life isn't as good as Sense (to no fault of the amazing devs of course).
I also suggest Imoyeson's leankernel 5.1.0GB in battsaver mode. Amazing performace with amazing battery life.
I also recommend Zues. ran it for a month straight no problems. only switched roms to see what else is out there
BAMF 1.11 with kernel+++ and turn off task manager at startup. Since I've installed the latest version of BAMF I've had zero fcs, great battery life and good speed. I'm a tech all day long with Windows PC and understand little about behind tor scene android functions. BAMF seems most reliable and low maintenance. Remember every phone responds different to the same os. It's just like gas every kia responds different to bp gas.
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Liquid smooth 3.2. Phenomenal battery life and rom.
G3D is all you need
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Most stable rom?

I just ordered an Amaze for $250 and I am pretty stocked, coming from the mytouch 4g. I noticed that a lot of the roms appear to not have data working. Is there a complete ics rom you would recommend to flash for the first rom? Also how is stock ics rom?
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Stock rooted most stable and is the best rom for this phone imo. ARHD was my favorite deodexed.
If you want mods and a different aosp look.. you can do all that yourself on one of the two above with flashable mods and nova launcher.
Its probably best to read up on all of the ROMs and try them yourself to make your own judgement. This thread will just lead to a few devs shouting out their own roms and their fans following close behind. I know this because this isnt the first time a thread like this has appeared. Im sure u searched before posting though so no worries
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I agree with GG
go stock rooted, or ARHD. The phone on ics is pretty darn fast
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I've never really had any issues with ARHD and would suggest it.
I cant wait to get this phone. It is miles ahead of the Mytouch 4G yes I will read up and research and ask questions if A) can't find something or more likely don't understand what is being explained. Any gingerbread roms worthy enough to look at?
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md1008 said:
I cant wait to get this phone. It is miles ahead of the Mytouch 4G yes I will read up and research and ask questions if A) can't find something or more likely don't understand what is being explained. Any gingerbread roms worthy enough to look at?
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For ICS, I'd suggest ARHD (as previously posted). However, for Gingerbread, I'd suggest BulletProof. BulletProof is what I was running prior to migrating to ICS.
Thanks everyone I would definitely flash ARHD first that is after I get a feel for stock rom. I also found the the Amazing guide stickied on the dev section to really nice. I hope to see it explode pretty soon
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I tried most if not all ROMs. If you want ICS I say go with NRGs stock Rom with faux new kernel. Been my daily driver for a few months now except the kernel that just dropped. If your gonna be on GB then I also 2nd Bulletproof.
Patiently waiting for some CM9 or 10. Which looks like we'll probably have by August, September.
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Whether you use energy with or without stock look, it is the rom I keep going to.. I never have issues with it. I debloat the hell out of it mind you, I don't leave rosie or any other sense feature, but as far as stability, battery, etc is concerned, it is my default rom of choice, and I have tried them all pretty extensively.
If you get the latest build you have to make sure to increase the minimum clock speed to 384 which just requires two little edits in the init.post_boot.sh file in the system/etc directory.
And despite what GG said, even tho I love him(no homo), I am not a fanboy by any means..
I use hd revolution on sensation and amaze. On amaze, it will give you out of box ui but in back processes, lot of optimization were made.
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Used ARHD when I had my amaze 4g and never used anything else, that was when it only had GB though, now that I got a GNex, I'm still using ARHD, one of the best Roms out there, no problems whatsoever, stable, and Mike is an all around great guy who puts much care into his Roms. (Not to say that others don't, I've used so many Roms its unbelievable, just like everyone else, and all devs are AWESOME!!!)
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My word isn't really needed at this point, but **** it - Android Revolution HD (ARHD), just like the others have said.
Trewyy
Engery Rom is thee best choice
Energy Rom is the best in my opinion. I tried both clean rom and ADRHD or whatever it is call. I like Energy because it is Stable. Battery life to me is awesome, especially when I use my hotspot, Bluetooth and playing Poweramp plus I do play games and etc... Anyways that what I would recommend. Personally choose whatever fits your needs and do not go based off what we say. Remember the most popular rom for the Amaze may not be the best or work for your phone. Not all phones are created the same.
RMS_Quicksense [7.0]
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Stable, clean, great battery life and fully working. :good:

[Q] best Sense rom for battery life

Now, as a long time XDA user, I know these types of threads are frowned upon...oh well.
Anyway, I just picked up a DNA as I'm seriously sick of Samsung and decided to get back to my roots and the company I loved for so long. The DNA has been out for quite some time and hence the reason I ask the question.
For the long time DNA users, what Sense rom gave you the best overall performance and battery life? You know...that old favorite of yours that you compare all new roms to. Android version and Sense version is not important to me. I'm just curious the rom name and maybe a kernel you used, if at all.
I want to play around with this device, so just looking for some input by those who have been with the DNA since the beginning.
Also, I'm on TWRP 2.7 if that matters. So, if it is suggest I change recovery before flashing your suggested rom, please say so.
Thanks in advance to anyone who may reply!
mulhiny said:
Now, as a long time XDA user, I know these types of threads are frowned upon...oh well.
Anyway, I just picked up a DNA as I'm seriously sick of Samsung and decided to get back to my roots and the company I loved for so long. The DNA has been out for quite some time and hence the reason I ask the question.
For the long time DNA users, what Sense rom gave you the best overall performance and battery life? You know...that old favorite of yours that you compare all new roms to. Android version and Sense version is not important to me. I'm just curious the rom name and maybe a kernel you used, if at all.
I want to play around with this device, so just looking for some input by those who have been with the DNA since the beginning.
Also, I'm on TWRP 2.7 if that matters. So, if it is suggest I change recovery before flashing your suggested rom, please say so.
Thanks in advance to anyone who may reply!
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I always run viper DNA it's a very good sense Rom and is always stable. Use twrp 2.7 to flash it.
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Jaggar345 said:
I always run viper DNA it's a very good sense Rom and is always stable. Use twrp 2.7 to flash it.
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Thanks for the reply. I did flash the latest viper. Good roms. Always used viper on my Evo LTE back when I was on Sprint.
Any suggestions for a Sense 4+ rom? Can I even flash one since my DNA came with KitKat on it?
mulhiny said:
Thanks for the reply. I did flash the latest viper. Good roms. Always used viper on my Evo LTE back when I was on Sprint.
Any suggestions for a Sense 4+ rom? Can I even flash one since my DNA came with KitKat on it?
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Yes you can flash one. The only one that I really liked on sense 4+ was viper. The old Rom is still around it's just way down there in the development thread or original dev thread I can't remember what one it's in. But it's around and it was very good when I used to run it.
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Jaggar345 said:
Yes you can flash one. The only one that I really liked on sense 4+ was viper. The old Rom is still around it's just way down there in the development thread or original dev thread I can't remember what one it's in. But it's around and it was very good when I used to run it.
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Awesome. I'll take a look for it. I do enjoy Sense 6 (current Viper), but I'm having a urge to relive my EvoLTE glory days with some Sense 4+..
Thanks for the replies, Jaggar. I do appreciate.
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I think battery life is also related to kernel. You can test some other kernel on your phone then some kernel may be good at battery life.
I actually ended up flashing the Viper Rom that still has the Sense 4+ and battery life had been awesome. I tried the latest, but just wasn't as good..maybe tonight I will try Sense 6 again with a kernel. Any suggestions?
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