Does anybody else have an issue with their X2 when it's plugged in to either the wall or computer of the screen not responding like normal thus rendering the phone completely useless while charging? It doesn't happen every time, but probably 35% of the time which is still more than it should. And it's not just my phone either, my wife's X2 does it as well and all 3 of the X2's I've had have done it on both stock and eclipse.
Just wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue.
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I believe the charger is to blame not comlatible. Not every charger is setup with same pins or wattage... if ur mis-matching equipment.
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I have noticed this. With mine the keyboard becomes sluggish and the lockscreen is hard to unlock. I have eclipse now and it hasn't done that yet.
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I have one charger works just fine and another that when plugged into it I can only use hard buttons. No touchscreen
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I have five different USB cables and they all work fine. I've never seen this issue before. Weird!
Sometimes mine does this not sure what causes it. Seems like phone is usually warm when it does. maybe it gets too warm with screen and charging at same time. i have had it happen with every ROM even stock.
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I've used my old Crackberry charger along with my usb cord for the cpu, car and wall chargers. Havent had this problem. Strange......
Today it hasn't happened on the same cable at work.
Mine doesn't seem to take issue with any specific charger or cable except for one which is the one that was sent with my wife's phone from verizon, screws both of them up, and it's a moto charger with the same voltage/amperage as the other moto ones, but it has a 9 ft cable.
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Interesting it has happened on vz provided chargers. Do theyhave the Moto M on them, or sonething else?
Mine specifically is 5.1V~850mA. Has a USB cable. Has a port we can plug a cable into.
I'd be curious what everyone else has. I wouldn't think it's the cable itself but working in technology, I've seen stranger things.
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It could be one of two things, either:
1. you're using a usb cable with a broken data pin.
2. you're using a charger that doesn't output enough current.
the problem lies in a lack of available current in a certain charging state, a "fast charge" if you will. you get either not a high enough sustained supply voltage, or "dirty" power (essentially a little AC in your DC) and that really screws with the capacative touchscreen.
with a bad cable, the phone thinks it's plugged into a charger and not a usb port so it will try to draw up to 850ma from a port that can only feed 500ma if you're lucky.
with a bad charger, or one incapable of supplying the required current, you get "DC ripple" where your voltage fluctuates up to half a volt or more, 60 times every second. generally your phone will get very warm under this condition as well.
so it could be a cable, a charger or a combination of both.
some car chargers are notorious for making dirty power... so are some cars...
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It could be one of two things, either:
1. you're using a usb cable with a broken data pin.
2. you're using a charger that doesn't output enough current.
the problem lies in a lack of available current in a certain charging state, a "fast charge" if you will. you get either not a high enough sustained supply voltage, or "dirty" power (essentially a little AC in your DC) and that really screws with the capacative touchscreen.
with a bad cable, the phone thinks it's plugged into a charger and not a usb port so it will try to draw up to 850ma from a port that can only feed 500ma if you're lucky.
with a bad charger, or one incapable of supplying the required current, you get "DC ripple" where your voltage fluctuates up to half a volt or more, 60 times every second. generally your phone will get very warm under this condition as well.
so it could be a cable, a charger or a combination of both.
some car chargers are notorious for making dirty power... so are some cars...
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Oddly enough I have zero problems with the car chargers, the phones work fine when plugged into them.
Yeah the newest cable is one that is USB and 9 ft long but not moto one that verizon sent with my wife's phone. The moto one that came with mine an the two moto ones I got from Amazon I don't have any issue with but the cables are so stinking short they are a pita to use anyway (2' cables).
I've also noticed that the USB ports on different computers charge at different rates as well. My work computer will barely charge the phone and sometimes can't even maintain the battery level if I'm using it. My laptop at home charges it pretty good but you can't use the phone because you get the screen issue again.
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Yeah, I have had this same issue for quite some time and after reading this forum tonight I tried a new charger and BAM, problem fixed! I had thought it was my phone, but it was definitely the charger. The one I was using was the Verizon 9ft charger they send out with replacement phones. Model: B141000. Black with green on the back. Gave my wife my charger that came with the DX2 to take to work and use because I liked this big long cord. So for months now whenever I tried to use the phone while it was charging it lagged so bad I would have to continuously unplug it and plug it back in when I was finished. Needless to say, having a text conversation when battery was almost dead was really annoying...
So when I read this post tonight I went up and grabbed my old Samsung charger from my old Samsung Fascinate and sure enough it worked just fine... No lag what so ever. So I am guessing it is an issue with the DX2 and the generic Verizon charger they send with replacement phones not being compatible...
Furthermore just as a test I just tried the actual 9ft USB cord with the Samsung plug you plug into the outlet and its still working fine... So I assume its the Verizon plug part not putting put enough voltage or something. Pretty happy that I can seemingly still use my 9ft cord! So if you have a spare plug I would say give it a try!
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Did anyone try to use HOX+ in car as navigation? I have quite strong charger in car made for iPad (2.1A rated USB) and it is not able to charge phone when it is running navigation (Sygic, but it doesnt matter). It seems to me, that charging current is too low to charge battery and also power phone, which is actively used. Tried to repeat at home, again big Apple USB charger from iPad rated 2.1A and while I was actively using phone (browsing etc), charger was able to get 1% of battery charged per 15-20 minutes. Which is too long.
Phone is getting warm or even hot while using CPU actively (Chrome is able to run all 4 cores while rendering page) and maybe there is some protection to avoid HOX+ getting too hot while charging? Or maybe internal logic just doesnt take more juice from charger when phone is charging and being actively used (to power CPU/GPU and also charge battery)? Anyway result is that with intensive CPU/GPU apps like navigation, I cant charge phone fast enough and it is actually discharging! No matter how strong or good your charger is, phone takes constant current and sometimes its just not enoug...
Anyone got similar problems?
The problem is that you shouldn't use chargers meant for other electronic devices.
How is it with the charger supplied with the X+?
Bbattery Monitor Widget is good to track charge/discharge value.
I have not noticed anything out of the ordinary, even using the phone while it is charging.
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The problem is that you shouldn't use chargers meant for other electronic devices.
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And what is the difference between chargers with USB ports? I could understand that using cheap noname charger from China could be problem, but I'm using branded from Apple, which is known to be really well made. And it is providing 5V and up to 2.1A of current.
Anyway cant use original because I bought phone in UK and they have some ugly shaped power plugs unlike rest of Europe
...but it ain't working, obviously. A power adapter is like a couple of €s, and @amazon original charger are around 7 €
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I've used both an OEM US charger and the UK charger with an adapter with the OEM cable and both have done fine. It does take longer to charge while using it, but that's no surprise.
The Apple charger should do better.
Simply put, the device reduces charge rate if the device gets too warm. I don't know if this is happening but it's something to keep in mind.
I had this issue also when i was using the device. Charging was stuck at 99% and did not change anymore.
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Well, you probably can't top the battery while charging because the phone is drawing more current than what the charging circuit (internal to the phone) is able to deliver to the battery (while charging).
Been digging in this problem a little bit more and found strange pattern. Since I cant use original charger (UK version doesnt fit my outlet), I have to charge with Apple ones. I have one big for iPad3 (strong marked as 2.1A), one small one with 1A and one small one chinese copy from DX (also 1A). When I try to charge phone with first two, it just charge like USB (settings>power and there you can see type of chargin on the top of screen). When I use chinese copy, it charges like proper AC adapter, quite fast. But after while, touch screen is messed up and it is almost impossible to control my phone. It seems like some static electricity build up or something like this messing with toucscreen mechanism. It gets fine few seconds after removing phone from charger.
Tried different cables, have 3 types at home. Original cca 1m long, only chinese charger woks in AC mode. Then I have extra short for drive, same behavior like original and two long ones (2m), chinese from DX but well made with quite thick cable and with this even chinese sometimes charge like USB, but sometimes it connects like AC.
Always thought that Apple chargers are good and used them to charge other gadgets, never had any similar problems. Seems that One X+ is quite picky with chargers, anyone can verify if it is just my piece?
I have a ton of micro-USB chargers that I've used with my GNex and Evo3D with no issue. The only consideration I take into account is Amperage, and I toss the ones below 800 mAh. Last night I plugged into one thats around 850 mAh and left my phone to charge all night (at around 5%). When I woke up, the phone had completely discharged without any sort of recharge.
Since this isn't a Nexus phone, am I locked in to only using verizon branded chargers? Is there a way to defeat that with root?
I haven't had any issues with that as I use all different types. Maybe just try another or maybe it wasn't plugged in all the way.
What voltage is it rated at? It could be that or that the charger is bad somehow. I charge mine nightly with a .7A charger and it's always been full when I wake up (about 30-50% when I go to sleep).
I have the sprint note 2 but they are essentially the same phone so here is what Igot for you:
there is no "smart" element to any chargers in the market, so your phone shouldn't know the difference between Verizon brand and the devil's own brand
if you look at the stock charger it outputs 2 amps...the phone needs this and in my experience it needs at least 1 amp in order to charge instead of discharging slower
also there is a known issue with all note 2s that the cable will not sit snugly inside the port causing it to be a bad connection... just make sure you put it in hard (no pun intended) and it shouldn't be a problem
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Yeah, if you take a close look at the micro-usb port, it is recessed a bit. Make sure you plug the cable in firmly.
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also there is a known issue with all note 2s that the cable will not sit snugly inside the port causing it to be a bad connection... just make sure you put it in hard (no pun intended) and it shouldn't be a problem
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I think this was likely the issue. The charger is rated at 1 Amp, and I tried it out again last night and it appeared to work for the few seconds I had it plugged in, so I must not have had it in there snugly.
So I just tested with the same charger, and when I plug it in, it beeps every half second and flashes between the charging/discharging symbol, and does not charge...
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So I just tested with the same charger, and when I plug it in, it beeps every half second and flashes between the charging/discharging symbol, and does not charge...
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I don't remember where, but I remember reading about someone with this issue where they were using their phone as a gps while charging it and it died. Someone commented saying that the culprit was probably a faulty charger. Sounds like they were right.
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So I just tested with the same charger, and when I plug it in, it beeps every half second and flashes between the charging/discharging symbol, and does not charge...
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I have seen this same thing with two Droid X's plugged into the same 2A charger. One phone would charge and the other would do exactly as you describe. It didn't do it all the time, it just depended on how low the battery levels were on each device. How much battery life do you have left when it does this? You may just need to use a higher amperage charger.
I have not received my Note II yet, but it sucks that I will most likely not be able to charge it while tethered (USB) to my laptop.
Based on the info I could find (kernel driver), the phone will accept up to 650mA of power, so anything over that should charge the phone at the same rate. Voltage shouldn't be an issue as it is charging via USB, which is 5V (+/- 5%). Unless someone has an amp probe to put on it, we can't tell if it is actually pulling more or less than what the driver specifies. And, as someone else stated, the phone can't tell if you're using a genuine Samsung cable and charger, or a $1.00 made in China cable/charger, as long as they both output the same voltage/amperage, the phone will never know the difference.
Based on what you said though, if the phone is constantly seeing the charger connect/disconnect, that would drain the battery even faster.
When plugged in, the charger included with my Optimus G buzzes. Audibly. It's pretty loud. At first I thought a fly was in my room, then I realized it was coming from my charger.
If I unplug it, it keeps buzzing for about ten seconds.
I have a Nexus 7 charger and a Atrix 2 charger. Neither have the same specifications as the buzzing LG charger. The N7 outputs 2 amps, the Atrix outputs 0.85 amps, the LG outputs 1 amp.
So... is it safer to a) use the buzzing charger or b) use a non-buzzing charger, but one that outputs a higher/lower current than the included charger?
I'm now afraid to charge my phone.
Anyone else having a problem where the charger buzzes?
Thanks.
UPDATE so apparently some googling tells me that it IS okay to use other chargers AS LONG as the voltages are the same. Amps can vary; even if the charger is rated for more amps, the device will only take as much as it needs, and if the amps are lower than the device specifications, it will just charge more slowly.
So my N7 charger has the same voltage but higher amps, so I'm just using that until LG sends me a non-buzzing charger (if they ever return my request)
If any of this information about volts/amps is wrong, someone let me know. But it seems right according to my limited knowledge of physics.
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When plugged in, the charger included with my Optimus G buzzes. Audibly. It's pretty loud. At first I thought a fly was in my room, then I realized it was coming from my charger.
If I unplug it, it keeps buzzing for about ten seconds.
I have a Nexus 7 charger and a Atrix 2 charger. Neither have the same specifications as the buzzing LG charger. The N7 outputs 2 amps, the Atrix outputs 0.85 amps, the LG outputs 1 amp.
So... is it safer to a) use the buzzing charger or b) use a non-buzzing charger, but one that outputs a higher/lower current than the included charger?
I'm now afraid to charge my phone.
Anyone else having a problem where the charger buzzes?
Thanks.
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Never seen that before. Had a lot of phones with a lot of chargers and never heard a buzz, I'd get a new one just to be safe...but I tend to be super cautious
Weird, my charger (that I got with the OG) buzzes as well. I've been using since I got it and it hasn't exploded....yet.
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Weird, my charger (that I got with the OG) buzzes as well. I've been using since I got it and it hasn't exploded....yet.
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Interesting... so it's not an isolated issue. My phone is four days old, which is why it's frightening me. I think I'm just gonna submit a replacement request, and keep using the buzzing one until that one arrives (assuming it's granted and I don't have to deal with any bull from LG). If it's a common thing for the charger to buzz and yet no one is complaining about an exploding battery... it's probably safe.
But I'll request a replacement just to be safe.
My htc inspire charger has always buzzed when plugged in to the wall but not charging the phone. My guess is it is a function of the transformers magnetic field and some metal part in the charger.
My charger buzzes too, when is plugged in and for a few seconds after like you described. I've been using it since launch day on this phone with no issues. The buzz has not gotten any louder or anything over the past few months so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Switching power supplies like our chargers sometimes do buzz because of the way they work, and it may or may not be an issue. Usually it's an inductor vibrating, and it may last as long as you need it to, or the vibration may cause eventual failure), but since yours is still under warranty I'd definitely replace it.
Using any other USB charger will not be dangerous or bad for your phone since the voltage is standard. If it's rated for a higher current, great - the phone will only draw as much as it is designed to, so you can't damage anything that way. Battery monitor widget appears to tell me that it only charges with about 800mA of current (that is net; the phone is still using some additional current to operate), so assuming the correct current is being reported, it doesn't appear that there's any benefit from using a charger that can supply more than 1A. Unless it can draw more quickly when charged with power off -- I don't have any good way to check this.
On the other side, while you can use a charger that's only rated for 500mA, which is the old USB standard current, the phone will charge more slowly and you'll probably get the warning saying so. It may not actually even supply enough current to charge the phone while you're using it in that case. So while you'll get by in a pinch for an overnight charge with one of those, it's well worth investing a couple of bucks in a higher-rated one.
I normally use my kindle fire charger which is rated for 1.9A (and the Fire can draw that much) or my New Trent battery pack which is rated for 2.1. My LG charger stays at work and doesn't get much use. I'm going to eventually buy another charger for home and I'll be looking for one rated for 2A or so.
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My charger is beeping after the battery is full. Its very very quiet but I hear a rhythmic beeping.
Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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arisch86 said:
Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Same here. Glad to hear it is not just me. I just got off with NA HTC Tech Support. There official stance is that they do not recommend or support using any device other than the official charging cable and plug in device. They went as far to say that they do not support charging in the car. I just about flipped my lid on the phone.
Here is the link to their site: http://www.htc.com/us/support/howto...783&p_name=droid-dna-by-htc-(verizon-wireless)
"Only the power adapter and USB cable provided in the box must be used to charge the battery"
I was told by Verizon that this was just a scare tactic, while HTC says I am not getting the right charge and they have no answer since they do not support DC charging in the car. Any info people have is appreciated. It works fine with Hard Wired DC -MicroUSB, but not with any USB Plug in.
Any apps that would help me measure the amount of charge it is getting?
Thanks in advance.
What are the specs on your car charger?
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So odd that they would do that, especially with the power draw of the phone. However you can charge using the battery packs?
My car adapter is a Macally USB car adapter model carusb10 output 5v/2.1 amp x1 500mA x2.
As for my house adapters the RCA 2 port USB wall adapter. 2.1 Amp x 1 or 1000mA x 2 I believe.
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Everyone with a stock DNA unplug your charger and flip it around. As in flip the prongs. It should give you this message even with the HTC supplied one. Or try this. When you use another charger and it gives you that message unplug it and flip it. It should straighten out. I dunno. Something about the way the power is drawn.
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Everyone with a stock DNA unplug your charger and flip it around. As in flip the prongs. It should give you this message even with the HTC supplied one. Or try this. When you use another charger and it gives you that message unplug it and flip it. It should straighten out. I dunno. Something about the way the power is drawn.
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I have tried several different USB adaptors, from Razorfish(BestBuy), Belkin single USB input 2.1amp, innocell (RadioShack) dual SUB 3.1amp. Same problem on all.
On the other hand, any direct Wall connection with USB cable attached seems to work fine.
Also, I have the Motorola p4000 battery backup and when I plug that in, it also works fine and views it as AC.
Swapping the pins didn't work for me, same issue. Its a pita for me especially charging in the car because when using phone for navigation it charges so slow that it can't actually charge my phone and my battery decreases. I've went the route in the car I use my nexus 7 charger connected to an inverter.
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From my phone conversation with Seth from HTC Support, the slow charging warning is due to the update because the update incorporates the faster charging feature that qualcomm & htc have referenced too recently (can't remember what its actually called). The phone has a new type of charging setup that makes it charge faster than some other phones.
Unfortunately some chargers (wall/car) dont supply enough voltage to activate the charging feature so while the phone does charge fine (it charges at standard phone charge rate) it cannot charge at the faster rate due to the charger.
He states that this will not harm the phone and ther phone will charge fine and it a normal time. You can disregard the warning. For those that like the faster charge rate, you have to use the right charger/cable.
Before the update our phones were mostly charging at the slower rate and that's why most didn't see a warning unless the cable being used was below the standard rate of charge.
Hope this helps
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Seems ever since I updated to the latest OTA update, if I plug my phone in on certain chargers I get a notification stating slow charging enabled please connect to your factory charger. Anyone else having this issue?
It seems to do it on any charger or 12volt car to USB adapter capable of outputting 2 to 2.1 amps
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Why are there so many problems about this thing lately even me, I experience this most of the time
When I use the Best Buy 2.1 amp wall charger I still get the message.
I'll need to find my oem wall charger.
So far every one I have gives this message.
I haven't seen this message at all on any of my charges but I haven't charged in the car yet. My battery usually lasts for more than the while day so I just charge at night.
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Well with the faster charging enabled it does charge pretty quick especially using my nexus 7 wall adapter, even with my Nokia Qi pad. But man that last percent takes a while.
As of now I'm using supercharged hatka ROM slim 3.0.3 and getting good battery life. Even in the middle of nowhere where 75% percent of the time when I'm in the plant its searching for signal. I'll leave work after 8 hours and still be at 60%
Guess you can say its the only negative I have for the phone. Trust me the battery life is much better in the plant then my old bionic. I use to have to change the standard battery after 4 or 5 hours as it was completely dead.
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Last night I received my daughters replacement Rezound from the warranty company. It came with a 1 amp wall charger.
I plugged it into my DNA and did not get the notice of slower charging and it charged quicker than I've ever seen it.
Too bad my 2.1 best buy one won't.
The quick charge capable chargers must output just slightly higher voltage to trigger the rapid charge mode.
I'll experiment some day and see.
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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I have the charger that came with the phone it it fully charges my DNA in 2 hours from 3%
Funkertosh said:
This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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I kinda figured it was something with the pins if I wasn't voltage offset.
I did find that one of my car chargers from best buy runs in quick charge. The cable I fixed, rather than using a usb cable in a slot on the charger.
The best number 2.1 amp wall charger uses a data type cable.
Maybe I'll check into shorting the pins on that sucker to get quick charge mode.
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This is a known issue. It all comes down to there being no set standard for USB charging. Android, apple, tablets, they all just seem to do their own thing.
The phone is checking the pins on the charger. If the data pins are shorted, then you get fast charging. If not, then it will default to the slower USB charging.
That last update that came through added that 'Slow Charge' warning. I saw it on my gf's DNA. My DNA is rooted and ROM'd so I don't have that. You can still check for the charging speed on a device by going to the Battery page in the settings. Up on top it with either say AC (which is fast) or USB (which is slow).
The supplied HTC wall chargers have the data pins shorted within them, so any regular USB cable will allow you to charge at the AC rate. You may remember some years ago there used to be Charging Only cables and they were regular USB cables that simply had the data pins shorted.
Most car chargers do not have data pins shorted. I have used a number of different ones from monoprice and none of them will charge at the AC rate.
There are videos on youtube showing how to open them up and solder the data pins. You can look for charging cables on amazon (but that seems lame), or you can find a car charger that just actually works.
There is a cheap Motorola charger on Amazon that will give you the fast AC charge.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=funkertosh-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000S5Q9CA&adid=131FS8N5R70JPV4QGDCV&
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The phone is doing more than checking pins now. I have a 2.1 Amp dual charger with pins shorted and get the warning. It happily charged in AC mode before the update. The charger can also charge a nexus 10 at 2 Amps. I'm guessing the kernel devs will have to locate the source of the warning. I thought the resistance between the data pins might be the trigger, but there is no difference between the HTC charger and my dual charger. It does seem my car charger is unaffected.
I have found that to trick the phone into AC mode you have to short the the actual cable. Hence strip the insulation off the wires and short the data wires together. Has worked for me on all my chargers.
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This message does not have to do with the update. I have still not updated my DNA and have been struggling with this for about 6 or 8 months. I am on 2.08. The issue has continually gotten worse since the first time I saw it. At first it would just appear about 1 in 10 times I plugged it in to a car charger. It then got to the point where it would only not show the message with a certain car charger. Now it is showing it on the one car charger that works, but if I mess around with it and unplug and replug it a few times it will finally charge normally. The last few days it has started showing the message on the OEM charger. I have cleaned out the port on the phone and cables quite a few times now, but it doesn't help. I found that doing that only helps if it gets really full of lint and the cable rocks in the port causing it to loose connection if you move it, but it does not change the slow charging message at all. The phone is also definitely not charging at full speed when that message is shown. If I have it plugged in and it shows that message my battery actually drains if the screen is on. With the screen off I only gain about 10% per hour. I am not sure where the issue is, but I think it is different in different circumstances. In my case I think it is the phone itself, but from what I have read about others experiences it seems their problem might be the charger/cord. I hope this gets sorted out soon.
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This message does not have to do with the update. I have still not updated my DNA and have been struggling with this for about 6 or 8 months. I am on 2.08. The issue has continually gotten worse since the first time I saw it. At first it would just appear about 1 in 10 times I plugged it in to a car charger. It then got to the point where it would only not show the message with a certain car charger. Now it is showing it on the one car charger that works, but if I mess around with it and unplug and replug it a few times it will finally charge normally. The last few days it has started showing the message on the OEM charger. I have cleaned out the port on the phone and cables quite a few times now, but it doesn't help. I found that doing that only helps if it gets really full of lint and the cable rocks in the port causing it to loose connection if you move it, but it does not change the slow charging message at all. The phone is also definitely not charging at full speed when that message is shown. If I have it plugged in and it shows that message my battery actually drains if the screen is on. With the screen off I only gain about 10% per hour. I am not sure where the issue is, but I think it is different in different circumstances. In my case I think it is the phone itself, but from what I have read about others experiences it seems their problem might be the charger/cord. I hope this gets sorted out soon.
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It could be the charging equipment your phone or it could also be the power source not providing enough power to the device for it to charge fast so it charges slow.
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I just got my LG G2 yesterday. I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and an old Galaxy Nexus. I have a Nexus 7 charger at home and work. I have a modified Fast Charge 2.0A Car charger.
My N7 and GN could "AC" charge off of all of them. The G2 is "slow" charging off all of them. They are all 3 different models of chargers, all above 2.0A so there is plenty of oomph to get it the power it needs.
So whats up with that?
I just tested it. It isn't the Charger but the damn cables. Does LG have some kind of funky pinout for the charger?! Using the supplied cable, it is working on all of my other chargers. If I use my old cable it "Slow Charges" even with the included LG USB Charger.
So something in that cable is altering the amount of power it gets. That SUCKS!
My Nexus 7 will AC charge off the LG Cable. So it's something with that cable that the G2 likes.
LG is notorious for changing stuff around. On the G2x they flipped around the headphone control pins and came out with an additional headset for extra $$ which rendered every other headset with music controls useless. So basically now I have to go and replace all of my USB cables with something LG likes (which will almost be impossible to order something online). Anyone else having issues with other chargers? Luckily it IS taking a charge but just at USB speeds (Slow charge). I use Qi Charging at home for at night, so that isn't an issue but in my Home Office, Work Office, and (especially) my Car I need a fast charge. In the Car, using GPS with the screen on will still deplete on USB power. A fast charge is the only one that can still charge the battery under a heavy load. Similar to watching a movie probably.
All my USB cables woks fine. I would use the included Amazon Kindle cable since it is easily the longest cable with out issue. However older cables do have the problem you described but I suspect it isn't something LG specifics but rather the amount of pins connected in the cables.
-LG G2
I found that my Samsung cables from my S4 and Note 2 work fine with the G2, but any of my other cables, whether they be the cheap $3 ones, ones from other phones, or expensive ones, only charge at the slow rate. I'm hoping we can get a custom kernel that removes that restriction.
So it charges a little slower. Is this a major issue? If so, use the charger provided. Failing to see the problem here.
Maybe its just me. I get that a lot.
My Note 2 2A charger and USB works just fine. If not faster.
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My N7 2013 charger works perfectly.
player911 said:
I just got my LG G2 yesterday. I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and an old Galaxy Nexus. I have a Nexus 7 charger at home and work. I have a modified Fast Charge 2.0A Car charger.
My N7 and GN could "AC" charge off of all of them. The G2 is "slow" charging off all of them. They are all 3 different models of chargers, all above 2.0A so there is plenty of oomph to get it the power it needs.
So whats up with that?
I just tested it. It isn't the Charger but the damn cables. Does LG have some kind of funky pinout for the charger?! Using the supplied cable, it is working on all of my other chargers. If I use my old cable it "Slow Charges" even with the included LG USB Charger.
So something in that cable is altering the amount of power it gets. That SUCKS!
My Nexus 7 will AC charge off the LG Cable. So it's something with that cable that the G2 likes.
LG is notorious for changing stuff around. On the G2x they flipped around the headphone control pins and came out with an additional headset for extra $$ which rendered every other headset with music controls useless. So basically now I have to go and replace all of my USB cables with something LG likes (which will almost be impossible to order something online). Anyone else having issues with other chargers? Luckily it IS taking a charge but just at USB speeds (Slow charge). I use Qi Charging at home for at night, so that isn't an issue but in my Home Office, Work Office, and (especially) my Car I need a fast charge. In the Car, using GPS with the screen on will still deplete on USB power. A fast charge is the only one that can still charge the battery under a heavy load. Similar to watching a movie probably.
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Have you tried going to settings>general>PC connection and setting "charge phone" there, as the phone limits the current allowed through if it's on MTP because MTP simply can't handle it.
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My N7 2013 charger works perfectly.
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I am also using N7 2013 charger and it charged pretty fast. But now i'm also trying out a speakerdock. I don't know how fast that is but the n7 charger is pretty fast.
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I have the same problem OP. if I don't go to bed early enough for slow charge to feed this monster battery I wake up below 100%. It really isn't that big of an issue because the battery lasts anyways but I don't like leaving home below 100%.
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So it charges a little slower. Is this a major issue? If so, use the charger provided. Failing to see the problem here.
Maybe its just me. I get that a lot.
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The Problem is that it is annoying. Not only is it charging "Slower" but also throw a icon up in the Status bar that you can't dismiss that says "Slow Charging. To Charge faster, use the original charger".
But I want to repeat that it is NOT the actual charger but the USB cables. It WILL fast charge (aka normal charge) using all of my various chargers WHEN I use specific USB Cables. Most of my cables will only slow charge, which is equivalent to a USB trickle charge that can't even charge it fast enough to power the screen. If you use the device in this mode, it still loses power with the screen on.
It just seems there is something in the cable itself that is either not connected or passing through the info to turn up the faster charging. I know the cables are Power+Data cables because I use them for ADB and MPT.
Most cables are not working. I've found a few that are. Unfortunately my 10ft desk cables and my curly car one is NOT working.
The Original Nexus 7 was picky about chargers. It wouldn't even see my car charger where my Galaxy Nexus and New Nexus 7 2013 both show AC (fast charge).
I think the difference between a slow charge and a fast charge is something like 0-100% on fast charge is 3 hours where it's like 9-10 on a slow charge. THAT is the problem.
Update:
Seems this is a legitimate case regarding the Verizon LG G2s AFTER they've received the latest OTA update. It will only charge normally on the included cable. All other cables will result in a Notification that the phone is "Slow Charging" and charges only on 500mAh. You cannot dismiss the notification. Which is the annoying part.
Current ongoing discussions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460881
As of this posting, it affects all Verizon G2 users and there is no solution. We suspect it is just a Verizon bug. No other cables will charge normally.
No. Mentioned in that thread, my car charger from Verizon charges at ~1000mA. Long, curly, and thick. The new one with the LED and shorted pins. Attached cable and USB work on said charger. The problem is AWG, short, and voltage drops. I have yet to find a working usb cable though.
Mine (D802, EU model, GB variant):
- Belkin Charger 2.1A, N7 2013 cable -> slow charging
- N7 2013 charger + N7 2013 cable -> fast charging
So it's not just the cable; it's also dependent on the charger.
The voltage drop in the cable will cause the phone to draw a substantially lower charge. Therr doesn't seem to be anything unusual about the cable other than it being unusually good quality, being thick and short.
When charging, it's important having a charger with the data pins shorted, but I think most wall charger are. The slow charge warnings are something special in the Verizon models, I only get a slow charge warning when It's actually slow on my d802.
It will appear as though there is a difference of what will happen if there is a voltage drop in the cable based in your carrier model, but the hardware which charges the phone should be standard, albeit probably better quality than most other chargers.
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Hmnmm
I stopped worrying about cables, adapters, etc by using a TYLT VU wireless charger. It chargers both my Verizon lg g2 and my Nexus 7-2013 fully and quickly. My g2 takes only 2-3 hours and my Nexus is in a leather case.
No wworries, just lay either one on its 45 degee angle platform and forget about it. Truly a wonderful charger.
I have a Samsung Qi Charger. I don't worry about it but there is a software bug with the Verizon model since the OTA update. Another thread listed above tells of the details.
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the solution is simple. just shortcircut data+ and data- and it will fast charge.
hopefully som Kernel hacker can build us a new Kernel. when the phone detect data connection it goes to 500mah. if u chortcircut them 1a+
maydayind said:
the solution is simple. just shortcircut data+ and data- and it will fast charge.
hopefully som Kernel hacker can build us a new Kernel. when the phone detect data connection it goes to 500mah. if u chortcircut them 1a+
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This is NOT the case. The Verizon variant is very picky and requires a 24g USB 3.0 cable or else it will force slow charging at 500mah.
There is a whole thread with findings thats like 30 pages long. The Verizon model is not behaving like the other variants, so unless you have a Verizon model with the latest OTA and have personally tested and found a working solution, then you need not comment.
This thread should be closed so random uninformed persons stop making false accusations. This thread was started over a real problem but didn't take off. Another thread was created that did, and it is linked above. This is a real problem with a real solution. All real findings and discoveries are listed in that active thread listed above.
This should be a place holder for searches but needs no new comments. Please direct all comments to the other thread linked above.
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And linked here for easy reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460881
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