Hi,
I have read all the information pertaining to the rooting of the NT and that is fully understood, however I still have some questions unanswered.
When the SDcard is partionned to 70 mb is the rest of the sd card usable to upload files to? i.e. if I use a 16gb sd card will I be able to use the rest of the card to put files on? If not what is the solution to sideload other files if you have reached the capacity of the NT?
If this was already answered somewhere else, I apologize in advance as I did not see it.
Thank you for your help.
Nathalie
I believe making the rest usable is possible but it will likely be spotty at best.
The best thing to do is to convert it back to a regular, non-bootable, sdcard. Or if you only have windows, use a smaller expendable card.
There are two reasons for this. First, it's easier to keep them seperate. Second, the nook boots to sd by default so as long as you have a bootable sd card in your device you will have to eject it on bootup and put it back in. That seems like too much of a hassle to me.
Either route I think you will need to have a linux os in order to convert the card back. As far as I could see, windows did not even recognize the rest of my card and didn't have any tools to edit the partition table. GParted on linux however allows you to edit the partition table.
Any route you take will require you to wipe the sd card so be sure to make a backup of anything you want to keep.
It is always good to have a machine with linux distro like ubuntu the most common to use gparted, eather by creating a virtual machine on windows (VMware is very good), using a live CD/DVD of ubuntu (but its a slower), installing it with WUBI which will let you run Ubuntu within your current system (it installs as any other application on Windows and uninstalls same way) or by just installing it directly to a PC, that way you don't miss anything .
~ Veronica
Beating a dead horse with this one
See This Thread and I know there were others.
Veronica offerers some good advice regarding getting a Linux Distro up and running. Another is Unetbootin. See my latest post in the thread I linked above.
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Very often I find myself needing to reset or get around someone's Windows Password, the easiest way of course is with one of many available linux boot cd's that'll edit the windows system hive. However most of the time I'm not carrying this around, I have a USB stick that can be used but I noticed earlier that while my Nexus One was plugged into the USB port on boot it is detected by my bios.
So the question is - Can the android USB interface act as a boot device? If so I assume it'd need a different partition since it's already got an OS?
Anyway just an idea
(Also while I have your attention: 1) Did they ever fix the +1 area code problems with contacts?, 2) Why don't half my contacts show up in Send MMS dialogue (and others)?, 3) How do I tell if I have an SLCD or AMOLED screen cos sometimes the screen looks really crappy (dithering or off colour banding) AND FINALLY 4) can you set notification sounds differently depending on time of day (ie; I don't want a new gmail alert to wake me up at 2am).
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Yes it can. Follow the many instructions to make your storage card into a bootable device. Then insert it into your phone. It all works the same.
Ahh, sorry to resurrect an old thread. Figured it would be better than starting a new one.
I've searched on and off for a few months and came to the conclusion this is not possible. If it is, please point us in the right direction.
Case in point. I have a 16gb microsd in my phone partitioned with 256mb swap, 1gb ext3 and the rest fat32. In a sd card reader it boots the live distro I have on the card on the fat32 partition (along with the rest of my android stuff, side by side). I put the same card in the phone and it is no longer seen as a bootable usb. I've tried this using the disk drive mode in neophyte's latest rom, nextsense, and the mount usb option in clockworkmod. It seems the phone doesn't allow the mbr to be read...
So, once again, I don't mean to start a yes it is, no it's not, etc... But if you are able to point us in the right direction it would be much appreciated. I had all but given up on this.
Thanks
warriorcookie said:
Ahh, sorry to resurrect an old thread. Figured it would be better than starting a new one.
I've searched on and off for a few months and came to the conclusion this is not possible. If it is, please point us in the right direction.
Case in point. I have a 16gb microsd in my phone partitioned with 256mb swap, 1gb ext3 and the rest fat32. In a sd card reader it boots the live distro I have on the card on the fat32 partition (along with the rest of my android stuff, side by side). I put the same card in the phone and it is no longer seen as a bootable usb. I've tried this using the disk drive mode in neophyte's latest rom, nextsense, and the mount usb option in clockworkmod. It seems the phone doesn't allow the mbr to be read...
So, once again, I don't mean to start a yes it is, no it's not, etc... But if you are able to point us in the right direction it would be much appreciated. I had all but given up on this.
Thanks
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Any luck. I find myself needing 2 of these presently. The increase in mobile repairs I am doing in combination of the normal in the dark windows users I need multiple OSs to get the job done by blunt thirty. If I find anything ill post....
And to OP even though its 2 years old. Windows password bypass can be achomplished simply by hard rebooting a computer during load animation. Select safe mode apon reboot. Sign into admin, reset pass, then PROFIT. At first I thought they fixed it in 8 but just takes an exra step. Pop the bios battery after force shutdown before reboot. Windows security is about as meaning as army intelligence.
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Hola, as you can see from my post total I'm totally new to this forum. I recently received a 8gb Nook Tablet (NT) from my kids for my birthday.
I really enjoy the book reading experience but find the app experience less than perfect. I've been an iOS user for a while and have come to expect cheap, free apps to testdrive before purchasing. I understand the way to do this on my NT is to hack the device to allow unfettered access to Android Marketplace / Google Play.
I understand there are a couple of ways to do this.
1) Hack (root?) the internal memory of the NT and load a new ... (ROM? Image? OS?) I think this is what Albertwertz and his root SD card is doing.
2) Use an SD card and boot from the SD card. This does not touch the Nook OS and does not void warranty.
Since I am not really sure what I'm doing, not voiding the warranty seems like a pretty good idea.
One of the Nook dudes at B&N told me about NtoA cards and that sounded like just what I was looking for. However, after doing some research on (mostly) this site, I've learned that the N2A guys are just reselling the work that's being done on this site. I don't think the price is unreasonable, but I'd rather get things working on my own and then donate to the team that did the work.
So, I've been reading all afternoon and think I have an understanding of what needs to be done.
Can it really be this simple?
1- Buy SD card (micro SDHC 4gb)
will class 10 provide any upside? Or is class 4 ok
2- Download Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha-final.img.zip from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
3- Download win32diskimager-binary.zip from the same post. (hoping there's an installer in the zip)
4- Image the SD card with win32diskimager. (from Vista 32)
5- Power off my NT, insert SD and I should be good to go.
Is it really that simple? I'm not sure what it will look like when I boot into CM7 but I'm assuming I will see something that will allow me to log into my google account and get my app on.
If I'm missing a step, please let me know. Thanks for all the help!
j
Your steps look good to me. There is an installer in the. zip.
You should be okay with a class 4 SD card, that's always what I use. There was a thread somewhere on XDA giving benchmarks for different SD cards and it showed that in some cases, class 4 cards actually performed better.
Don't be worried if you see black screen for an extended time the first time you boot, this is normal.
Yep, it's that easy. Be warned though, if you power on after making the sd card and it boots into stock, power it off and plug it into the wall/PC and see if it boots into cm7, some work without the power, some don't.
Sent from my Nook Tablet using XDA
If and when a custom recovery comes out for the 8gb nook tablet, I'd definitely consider installing internally. It technically voids the warranty but this things pretty easy to return to stock.
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I am kinda surprised at how inexpensive the MicroSD cards are. Does anyone know of a tool I can use to expand the storage partition on the SD Card (after imaging the card with the Team-B image)? I've seen a few people talking about it but everyone does it with Linux. Is there a freeware tool for us Vista or Win7 users?
Also, when I boot from the SD card, do I have access to the internal storage on NT? Or do I need to plan on all my storage going to the card?
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If and when a custom recovery comes out for the 8gb nook tablet, I'd definitely consider installing internally. It technically voids the warranty but this things pretty easy to return to stock.
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I figured I'd take that on after becoming more familiar with the platform and Android OS.
Glad I found this forum to help me through it when I'm ready!
Some reading material
You seem like you're willing to put in the effort to really learn this stuff, so definitely take a look at that link and just read, read, read and read some more when doing this stuff. That guide is a nice place to get familiar with what some of the terms are/what you'd be doing.
As for getting more space on the sdcard, I know others have managed it (I boot internally, so have no experience here). There might be a guide for it, I'll have a look. Hopefully someone can help you out if not.
LoboJim said:
I am kinda surprised at how inexpensive the MicroSD cards are. Does anyone know of a tool I can use to expand the storage partition on the SD Card (after imaging the card with the Team-B image)? I've seen a few people talking about it but everyone does it with Linux. Is there a freeware tool for us Vista or Win7 users?
Also, when I boot from the SD card, do I have access to the internal storage on NT? Or do I need to plan on all my storage going to the card?
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I don't know about a windows program, but what you can do is make a USB version of ubuntu (linux) which will run ubuntu on your windows machine while the usb stick is in. Just go to ubuntu's download page to learn how to do this.
Then once you have ubuntu you can download gparted and fix the partitions on your sd card with that.
Or there might be a windows program. But having a ubuntu usb stick can come in handy. I have my computer dual booted and i seem to be using ubuntu more and more.
LoboJim said:
I am kinda surprised at how inexpensive the MicroSD cards are. Does anyone know of a tool I can use to expand the storage partition on the SD Card (after imaging the card with the Team-B image)? I've seen a few people talking about it but everyone does it with Linux. Is there a freeware tool for us Vista or Win7 users?
Also, when I boot from the SD card, do I have access to the internal storage on NT? Or do I need to plan on all my storage going to the card?
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I recommend either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master for Windows, both are freeware. Both are able to extend the 4th partition (user data partition) to consume the remaining unallocated space of your card.
Unfortunately, the NT's actual internal storage is not accessible when running the ROM from SD. The "internal storage" on the SD ROM is represented by the 3rd partition that the Team-B image creates (this partition is formatted as Ext4).
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I don't know about a windows program, but what you can do is make a USB version of ubuntu (linux) which will run ubuntu on your windows machine while the usb stick is in. Just go to ubuntu's download page to learn how to do this.
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Funny you should mention that, I was going to do some searching tonite to see if there was a portable version of Ubunto (or similar).
thanks!
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Unfortunately, the NT's actual internal storage is not accessible when running the ROM from SD. The "internal storage" on the SD ROM is represented by the 3rd partition that the Team-B image creates (this partition is formatted as Ext4).
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Well, then I definitely need to get a bigger SD card. I guess the internal storage will still be used for books bought through B&N. At least until I try and install a ROM internally.
thanks!
LoboJim said:
Funny you should mention that, I was going to do some searching tonite to see if there was a portable version of Ubunto (or similar).
thanks!
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@LoboJim take a look at LiLi for portable Linux installations (http://www.linuxliveusb.com). It's a very easy tool for creating bootable linux thumb drives -- pretty much as simple as plugging in a thumb drive and selecting a distro.
Regarding the internal partition, have you gone in to BN to have it repartitoned? I decided to "let" BN do since I'm still under warrenty. That opened up 8gb for personal use.
I found that EASUS worked for me to re-partition the sdcard.
Nikkie
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I have just recently (5 hours ago) purchased a 16GB Tablet, that I had them repartition at the store, which has version 1.4.2.
I've spent the last few hours reading this forum and watching videos and now know WAY more than I ever intended to know about this tablet.
Rooting, dual OP, CM7, CM9, ROM, R3, Restore, etc. etc.
Due to so many warnings I've read about, I'm a little afraid to mess things up.
All I really want to do is install games I already have on my computer to the NT.
There were a couple of threads talking about this, but they were dealing with version 1.4.1. Not 1.4.2. I don't know how much of a difference there is.
Can someone suggest the best way to install these games?
Thanks for all the info you guys provide. It was hours of very informative reading.
i'm pretty sure games need memory ( storage ) and lots of it. tell us how much of the microhcsd you have available. did they leave you with one or six and a half gig ?
Unless you have an android computer/tablet with games from the play store or some other android market, the "games" you are referring to are not as easily transferable to an android tablet like the nook. The games have to be rewritten/redesigned for the android OS.
As for many of the warnings you've read, they are mostly to protect the person writing the guide. I.e. if you somehow manage to not follow directions and screw something up horribly, they want not responsibility for your mistakes. Honestly, 90% of them time in my experience with Android tinkering, Occam's razor holds true: the simplest answer is usually the right answer. And in terms of Android tinkering, that answer is user error.
So if you can read and follow directions and do a bit of troubleshooting here and there, you will be just fine.
My advice? Start with a bootable CM7 sd card. Go from there.
My apologies for lack of info.
After repartition, I was left with 5.91GB for B&N, and 8.00GB Other storage, plus 16GB SD Card.
Regarding games. All the games I want to use are all apk android games that I had from another android product.
Cubanluke88
The Bootable CM7 SD Card will boot from the card and leave the Tablet's OS alone? Is that correct? I guess this is where I'm confused. I think I read too much.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Rooting your device is like removing the old OS and replacing it with a new one?
Booting from CM7 SD Card will boot from the cards OS leaving the original OS on the device?
On one of the video's I watched, it was said "DO NOT FLASH ON THE 16GB Nook". I don't even know what that means, but I'll look it up and see if I can find out.
Thanks so much for helping a newbie who still doesn't know the terminology. I'll concentrate on reading about booting from CM7 SD Card.
Alright I'll try to address most of your confusion.
The bootable SD card essentially means you will not touch the current internal OS. You basically burn an image of CM7 to the card and when that card is inserted, the Nook will boot into CM7 instead of the B&N Android OS.
Rooting does not necessarily mean changing the internal OS. Because the B&N OS is Android based, and because Android is linux based, "root" is sort of the equivalent of administrative access on a Windows machine. It simply means you have full control of the device. Rooting the nook means the OS stays intact, but you can install the play store (Android market) and do all sorts of other things you are otherwise locked out of.
"Flash" is simply a techy way of saying install. When someone says "flash CM7 over the internal OS" they mean that you are installing CM7 (the custom version of Android that has been built) over the internal OS.
The safest thing for you is to create the bootable SD card of CM7 as it does not touch the internal OS. However, you can also create a bootable sd card for the custom recovery. From this custom recovery, you could then "flash" (install) CM7, CM9, or one of the other roms (custom OS) for the Nook tablet. It is also in this custom recovery that you can make a "nandroid backup" which is basically images of how your nook exists in its present form.
I know thats a lot of info. But honestly, before diving into this stuff, people should try to understand as much of that as possible. There are tons of resources out there that explain this stuff. Again, I suggest the bootable CM7 sd card as its the least likely to screw up. However, remember that should you go after the internal stuff, this thing is incredibly difficult to brick. Any mistake you make has likely already been made before and recovered from. So if something goes awry, don't panic.
Thats a lot of words. Damn.
It may have been a lot of words, but you've answered all of my questions and then some. I thank you very much for taking the time. This information helps tremendously and also makes so much more sense of what I read already.
Thanks Again.
That post deserved a thank. Really good description.
Sent from my R800x
We have started a very good community here, keep up people.
I should add one more thing.
Should you ever decide to go internal, i.e. flashing over the B&N OS, which IMO is the better way, its incredibly easy to return the device back to stock conditions should you ever need to (i.e. for warranty purposes or something).
I've done it myself just to make sure that its possible. And it is. Very easily.
I just wanted to come back and say Thank you!!
I was able to created the Bootable CM7 sd card and it went flawlessly.
I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm having fun looking around.
Thanks to this group of wonderful people, especially Cubanluke88m who still take the time to help even the virginal newbies who don't even know the lingo.
My hats off to this forum.
In the future I may in fact do this all internally, but I guess I needed to do it this way first just to see if I could. Now I feel much more comfortable with the files, burning images, etc. then before.
Congrats, enjoy.
The next thing I would recommend doing: make a clockwork mod recovery bootable card and make a nandroid backup of the internal OS.
ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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It's fine, it's always better to ask first. Could save you a lot of trouble in the long run. Unlike lots of other users, you seem like you are willing to search and learn things which is always good!
You can regain the remainder of the storage after writing the CM7 .img to your SD card. To do this in Windows, you'll need to download and install either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master. I usually use Partition Wizard.
Unfortunately, while using the CM7 SD ROM, you won't have access to your apps and books from the stock ROM, so you'll want to transfer them to your storage inside the SD ROM. So I recommend copying the files to your computer, then connect your NT running the SD ROM. From there just copy the files to your SD card.
Hello, I would like to use some android apps on my nook 15 GB running 1.4.2 without rooting permenently. I need to make a SD card so I can revert back to my regular nook operating system. At age 70 the more I read the more confused I get, there is just too much information out there. Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
Hello, hope this vid helps (better than trying to read instructions).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjxZxHoUsY
Thanks for the link but...
I viewed the video but it seems to be about restoring to the original software. I guess I did not explain well that I have an unaltered nook tablet and have done nothing yet. I need first to create a sd card to insert and boot to. My understanding is that I then turn off, remove the card and reboot to access the B&N software with no permanent change to my nook. Is that possible with 1.4.2?
Perfectly possible and exactly what you should do. I'll find a link in a bit, busy at the moment.
If you run CM7 from an SD card you can do a power on start to CM7 and reboot back to native nook. Booting to the SD version does nothing to the internals of the nook. The following address should get you to the development thread for CM7 alpha final. Follow the instructions for the SD version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
I suggest a Sandisk Class 4 micro SD card. Depending on how much material you intend to download, get an appropriate size card. I am using an 8 GB and I have allocated all the leftover space to the last partition.
Directions are easy. Download the file and unzip to get the image. Use the win32diskimager program to write the image to the SD. CAUTION here be sure it is the SD that you write the image to. Google Mini Partition Wizard Home Edition and download the home edition noted as freeware to reallocate the SD space. That is simple as well. Go to the bottom partition and move the slider to the right and then save.
If you have specific questions please post and someone will respond.
Bill
I apologize for misunderstanding your original post, anyway here's another YouTube vid you can check out...hopefully this one works out for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKO8-seTLU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679089
Generally, if you follow the steps above (short of installing the Asian apps), you'll be fine. Easy 1/2 hour to 1 hour to go through the downloading of apps, OS, Root image, etc. to having a bootable Nook that's running off the MicroSD card.
Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
Keep in mind that Sandisk MicroSD cards are generally recommended for their stability, speed, and trouble free use. You can use other brands, but if you encounter an error with your new OS, use a Sandisk card instead.
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Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
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This is only really necessary if you think B&N will push some update that will affect the current method used to bypass the bootloader.
This would imply a level of intelligence I don't think them capable of.
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Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
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Hi, Aquarian1. I'm old, too.
Did you get it figured out? It really is fairly straightforward once you understand what each basic step is doing. You can practice repeatedly until you get comfortable without doing any harm or damage.
Let us know how it's going. The folks here are awesome. We'll get you there!
I have a 16gb Nook Tablet that has firmware version 1.4.3 and I would like to run one of the CM roms internally. I am thinking about trying to run CM10 because from what I have read it has finally become stable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Over the last couple of months I have been skimming through this forum reading thread after thread trying to get a grip on the process. I have a 8gb class 4 Sandisk micro SD card that I would like to use for this. From what I understand I do not need to root the tablet first if I am going to flash a rom straight onto it.
So does anyone have a favorite method for going from a stock Nook Tablet to CM7 or CM10? I also wonder whether it is easier to use Windows or a linux OS to do this. I have Ubuntu on my Desktop and Windows 7 on my laptop so I can do either one. Also, how do you create a clone or image of my Nook and SD card so that I can revert back to them if anything goes wrong?
Edit: Do I need to repartition the NT hard disk like explained here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23272909#post23272909 or does that no longer matter once the new Rom has been installed?
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I have a 16gb Nook Tablet that has firmware version 1.4.3 and I would like to run one of the CM roms internally. I am thinking about trying to run CM10 because from what I have read it has finally become stable (please correct me if I am wrong).
Over the last couple of months I have been skimming through this forum reading thread after thread trying to get a grip on the process. I have a 8gb class 4 Sandisk micro SD card that I would like to use for this. From what I understand I do not need to root the tablet first if I am going to flash a rom straight onto it.
So does anyone have a favorite method for going from a stock Nook Tablet to CM7 or CM10? I also wonder whether it is easier to use Windows or a linux OS to do this. I have Ubuntu on my Desktop and Windows 7 on my laptop so I can do either one. Also, how do you create a clone or image of my Nook and SD card so that I can revert back to them if anything goes wrong?
Edit: Do I need to repartition the NT hard disk like explained here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23272909#post23272909 or does that no longer matter once the new Rom has been installed?
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Since you're new to flashing ROMs you might want to use this
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
Its an SDC image. Just write to your SD card and you're good to go. Once you learn a little more you can internally flash. Flashing without knowing what you're doing may cause problems which could essentially reformat or erase internal partitions.
Edit: You can use whatever operating system you want. Ubuntu can read all your partitions though. Windows can only read some. But that probably won't matter if you're new.
Thank you so very much. That was incredibly easy. Now I'm going to spend the rest of the evening messing around with this and finding out what I should have been doing all along with this tablet.