At some point the AT&T Note will get ICS.
So...on the Note i717 does anyone know how the 3 Virtual buttons ( Back, Home, and Recent Apps) will change/merge/impact the 4 capacitive buttons?
Will the ICS System Bar sit above the 4 buttons taking up screen real estate or will they just use the current 4 buttons?
Just wondering...tried poking around other Android phone sites that have upgraded to various versions of ICS (or ICS launchers) and couldn't really tell.
thanks.
I forget who said it but when ics was announced and the on screen buttons were shown, a guy from Google said they would not have on screen buttons for phones with capacities buttons. The capacitive will just do the same functions as the on screen would have. I'm glad because that would just take up screen space for something we already have
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Most likely the soft buttons will be disabled. Long-pressing the Home button will be how you use multitasking.
The soft buttons will be them. Look on the leaks and such for all devices, they all use the soft buttons.
andrawer said:
Will the ICS System Bar sit above the 4 buttons taking up screen real estate or will they just use the current 4 buttons?
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ICS will know your phone has capacitive buttons and use them instead of showing the onscreen buttons.
bigmout said:
ICS will know your phone has capacitive buttons and use them instead of showing the onscreen buttons.
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excellent. that's the best way imho.
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ICS will know your phone has capacitive buttons and use them instead of showing the onscreen buttons.
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I can confirm this. I put ics on my dad's captivate and it just uses the capacitive buttons and hides the on screen buttons.
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What do you think google is going to do with the menu button on the actual devices? Make it the contextual menu button or make it the multitasking button? the multitasking button would be nice imo
I can see them keeping the function for the "legacy devices"
The contectual buttons will prolly not show up on hardware button devices.
Like the people above me said, its probably gonna be contextual on new phones, and still work with "old" touch keys..
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can be used like camera button
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The contectual buttons will prolly not show up on hardware button devices.
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That's what I'm thinking for SGS2... In the end, bottom menu does what real button does only. Nothing extraordinary...
and what about the multitasking button, an onscreen button?
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and what about the multitasking button, an onscreen button?
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I think that the developers or carriers should hide that part of the launcher in this device. Because if you are going to use your sgs2 for at least 2 years, i will be mad seeing every time the software and hardware button at the same time
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bigcvm said:
I think that the developers or carriers should hide that part of the launcher in this device. Because if you are going to use your sgs2 for at least 2 years, i will be mad seeing every time the software and hardware button at the same time
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Im sure there will be no onscreen buttons for "home" and "back" but what will happend with the "recents apps" button?
Recent apps = hold the home button, just like how it already works.
Actully there is no devices with ice cream sandwitch for smartphone so it's difficult to judge
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Actully there is no devices with ice cream sandwitch for smartphone so it's difficult to judge
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Lol you are right
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Does the Galaxy Nexus even have a menu button? No, the menu buttons are onscreen (they differ with each app).
My guess is that the menu button on our GS II will be the multitask button.
It would be awesome if the existing hardware buttons will be like the ICS on-screen nav buttons with one difference: menu button will open multitasking tool. After all, the existing "menu" icon won't look to bad to be interpreted as "multitasking."
That's if and only if the ICS on-screen buttons are always just the three: back, home, and multitasking tool. This way, GS2's hardware buttons won't really make the device outdated. Just something that doesn't rotate landscape. No biggie. Even arguably better in some cases.
Yes but why can't we keep the menu button! I like it, It keeps the screen clean of crap do we really want to turn into the Iphone with software buttons for everything... And On screen is just stupid, Sure then can rotate and the menu button could appear in old apps when it is needed but menu is a part of android... I don't want to click a gear on the app to open the menu when the button did that fine. If Samsung / CM don't implement 4.0 in such a way that menu means menu then I will personally develop a rom that does, Multitasking should be long press of home... That is how we already view recent apps. It just works better.
epichappy said:
That is how we already view recent apps. It just works better.
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And you are sure of that, how?
It isn't even released yet, you can't really judge >.>
Any news here?
It says here :
What'll happen on phones that do have physical buttons, then? Will Ice Cream Sandwich work on those types of devices?
Yep -- only instead of getting the on-screen navigation buttons, you'll use your phone's physical buttons in the same way you do now. The menu key will load any contextual on-screen menus, and long-pressing the home key will load the multitasking tool, just like it has in past Android releases.
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That kinda sucks, though. ICS switched to on-screen navigation buttons for good reasons. I don't like the chore of holding the home button just to load the multitasking tool.
It would still be easy to force having those buttons on the screen, right? How do you think would that work?
I'm planning to buy a new phone in the holidays; should this be a major consideration?
So now with Ice Cream Sandwich the menu button is useless ?
You could force the buttons onscreen, but why the hell have both physical and software buttons.
Also it would really take away a lot of your total resolution constantly having the extra menu bar in there. Apps that have a special menu-bar would still show this when you press menu on your hardware keys I think.
The only thing I'm psyched about is the screenrotation animation
I dont get it, why get so mad about it?
So yes, new phone will have on-screen buttons,
but whats so wrong about the physical buttons we have now?
they work well, and that home button is really nice when something freezes and nothing else works...
I wonder how ICS deals with that issue.
There is a ICS-launcher on the market now, you can test it for yourself. I'm running it, attaching a screenie for your viewing pleasure. Personally I hope the softbuttons doesnt make it to the S2, seems very redundant on this phone.
Unless Google are enforcing hardware restrictions like WP (which I believe they are not), it's most likely that ICS will detect hardware buttons and not show on-screen ones.
Is there a way you can hard-coded, let say the left capacitive button to act as a home button when you long-pressed it? especially on ICS roms that for let say you want to see the recent apps(home button long-pressed) alternatively you'll just long-press the left capacitive button = profit?
My home button is being quirky nowadays(6 months owner) and I don't want to bring it to Service Center just to repair that.. The problem is not groundbreaking(not yet) but this will save me in the future and probably others will so
It's not exactly what you want, but maybe Button Savior will do for you?
I think capacitive buttons are more likely to stop working than the physical buttons. My friend has a motorola Milestone and his back button stopped working in a month. Dont know if it is a bug
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Still need to use home-button I'm in CM9 right now and the home button is really ****ed-up especially when I'm multitasking and I really love how ICS implement the task-switching/killing "Recent app"
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I think capacitive buttons are more likely to stop working than the physical buttons. My friend has a motorola Milestone and his back button stopped working in a month. Dont know if it is a bug
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Well that's a different phone but maybe that can apply to ours. What I mean is that sometimes my home button when I long press and then released it, it double registers the pressing so it's like you pressed again the home button
I am also looking forward for a solution to this. As I also want as much as possible not to use the home button. I quite feel that somehow it is already degrading. Showing press results that are not what I specify. Like for example clicking does 2 clicks thus entering 2 directories in CWM.
Button Savior could have been perfect if the recent apps it shows is the firmware's version. It shows its built-in recent apps instead.
Hey,
I was playing around with my new samsung Galaxy s 3 international, when I noticed that home button is different from power button and volume up and down, in terms of firmness.
The Power button and Bvolume up and down are quiet firm and Form factor for the slot, but for Home button, It is not that firm and by pressing the corners of the home button, I can see it is little loose, not very loose though. It works perfectly and didnt sound strange.
But is it a matter of concern, or is it by design or shall I replace the phone for this.
In the worst case, if it stops working, Can I live without Home button?? Please help!!!
I would say it's part of the design unfortunately. Same with mine. I personally do not like using the physical button and therefore have changed the function of my capacity buttons.
I.e. menu button become home button and vice versa which means yes you can survive without the physical home button. This mod is posted on the forum.
Another alternative you can look at is on screen navigation bar. Can be found in the same forum either in development or themes and apps.
Hope that helps!
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I have themarble white version and my home button behaves exactly like yours when I place my fingers on bah ends of it . my friends pebble blue version is much firmer than mine though... . I was just about to bring both of these to Samsung to let them compose to change a new one
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I didn't have this phone for very long before rooting and unlocking it, but I thought the S-Pen worked with the capacitative back and menu buttons when I first got the phone.
The S-Pen doesn't work with the capacitative buttons today. So am I remembering wrong, or does the S-Pen not work with the capacitative buttons?
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I didn't have this phone for very long before rooting and unlocking it, but I thought the S-Pen worked with the capacitative back and menu buttons when I first got the phone.
The S-Pen doesn't work with the capacitative buttons today. So am I remembering wrong, or does the S-Pen not work with the capacitative buttons?
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I'm still fully stock and it doesn't work on the buttons.
The s pen doesn't work with the capacitive buttons. There are gestures you can use to activate them, though. If you hold the button and draw an upwards arrow ^ it will bring up the menu. If you hold the button and draw a left facing arrow < it will go back.
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I'm still fully stock and it doesn't work on the buttons.
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The s pen doesn't work with the capacitive buttons. There are gestures you can use to activate them, though. If you hold the button and draw an upwards arrow ^ it will bring up the menu. If you hold the button and draw a left facing arrow < it will go back.
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Good deal. I thought I was going crazy for a minute. Thanks for the quick replies!