Hello fellows...
I'm just looking for an app to send files (something like p2p) between TWO android devices using a restricted GPRS service, I mean, no internet access....
I mean, send file to one IP to another one....
Just for send files, text, chat...or something like that....
any idea?
thanks in advance
BR,
chatfan
No ideas? no help please?
thanks
Well if your phones have no internet connection then they need to connect to each other somehow. Wifi can be used if you have a network you can connect to, otherwise bluetooth might help.
No, no one phone have internet connection, just a GPRS service for MMS sending and for open only ONE PAGE or WEBSITE to check them (mms).
Phone have a very distant from each to another one, but connects in the same GRPS network, same carrier / provider and same range of IPs...do you understand?
any idea? any help?
thanks
hedgepigdaniel said:
Well if your phones have no internet connection then they need to connect to each other somehow. Wifi can be used if you have a network you can connect to, otherwise bluetooth might help.
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it's not really possible. my best guess would be to hijack MMS and send a file that way, but then if the file were over the MMS size limit, you'd end up having to send multiple MMSs, racking up your texting charges. it would be very slow, and unless you've got an unlimited texting plan, potentially very expensive.
by the way, p2p (in the bittorrent/emule sense) doesn't play into this, it would be completely impossible.
No new ideas about all this? I need this ASAP, any App?
thanks
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hi, i recently asked about disabling GPRS which i have now done through my network provider.problem is, it's still possible to access the web via GSM. does anyone know how I can permanently disable any access to the web - even if the phone is reset? O2 say they can't Block access to the GSM number. I have to do this - or get rid of my phone.
maybe if there were a program which would block any atempt to modem using gsm you could put it in the extented rom
but really it's a bit like trying to make sure nobody call a surden nr from a phone but having to do so in your end and not in the operator end
it's only possible if some hack program can block all attempts to connect using anything but usb
Disable GSM
Thanks for that. Pardon my ignorance - but what is my extended Rom? How do I but thing in there? Is such a program available?
On my settings, I notice that the GSM number has a password associated with it. Does anyone know if I can apply to change my password. That way - if the phone is hard-reset, it will try to set up a connection with the default password - which woyuld then be invalid. That way, I could ensure that only I have internet access and only when I manually input the password.
Damian Gardiner said:
hi, i recently asked about disabling GPRS which i have now done through my network provider.problem is, it's still possible to access the web via GSM. does anyone know how I can permanently disable any access to the web - even if the phone is reset? O2 say they can't Block access to the GSM number. I have to do this - or get rid of my phone.
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Hate to even mention this but as a last resort you could damage the SIM card port or have siemens disconnect the connector to GSM or SIM if possible, that would take out the phone option.
Ah, but wouldn't that disable the phone completely? i still need the phone to make ordinary calls...
Thanks though Iggy. Know you say that you hate to mention it, and I know I must sound like a complet Philistine Monkey for wanting to do this. But I bought the XDA principally for its connectivity to MS Office, and for the fact its a phone. I couldn't give two hoots about using the internett. it costs too much anyway, and others have access to the phone and know how to reset, use the net, then reset again - and restore the info. Thus making it look like it hasn't been used. (though I can check the call register etc).
So you see I need to do this - to protect my wallet & my kids...
As a very last resort - I'll sell the XDA. buy a seperate PDA with no mobile connectivity, then buy a standard mobile instead.
Damian Gardiner said:
Ah, but wouldn't that disable the phone completely? i still need the phone to make ordinary calls...
Thanks though Iggy. Know you say that you hate to mention it, and I know I must sound like a complet Philistine Monkey for wanting to do this. But I bought the XDA principally for its connectivity to MS Office, and for the fact its a phone. I couldn't give two hoots about using the internett. it costs too much anyway, and others have access to the phone and know how to reset, use the net, then reset again - and restore the info. Thus making it look like it hasn't been used. (though I can check the call register etc).
So you see I need to do this - to protect my wallet & my kids...
As a very last resort - I'll sell the XDA. buy a seperate PDA with no mobile connectivity, then buy a standard mobile instead.
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Sorry Damian Gardiner, did'nt quite understand before that you still needed the phone functionality. Just a quick question, for you to connect to an ISP is that not a data call (whether by GSM or CDMA or Normal phone line) and if so I thought it was possible for your provider to disable data calls?????? Don't really what I am talking about, just thinking out loud.
The way that I disable mine is in the [My Connections] settings where it asks to "Select a modem", I pick the "Hayes Compatible Modem" which does not exist in the XDA. So the device cannot dial out my ISP number. When I actually want to connect to my ISP, I pick "Cellular Line". Actually, if you pick "Cellular Line" it just counts as voice minutes. This can be very useful especially during weekends. It is quite slow though. If you pick GPRS then it counts as data, which is additional service.
Give it a try.
Pat
If your provider disables both GPRS and CSD, you can't make any data calls at all. CSD is what provides the ability to dial a provider.
Wouldnt it just work when you delete ALL connections on the XDA?
That way the device won't be able to connect straight away and thus alwys comes up for some user interaction. . .
When I am on my own network I use CSD (ie. dial-up) because it counts as voice minutes (and I don't ever use all the minutes of my bundle)
When I am abroad I use GPRS (cheaper than Roaming CSD)
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anybody has the blackberry software running on the xdaII with tmobile US? I know theres a specific rate plan you have to get with it, but does it allow you to browse the web with it also? What apn's are you using to do both, mail and web? How well does it work and where can I find the app?
thanks
I am using it on an XDA II on t-mobile. I hav the Blackberry minutes and mail plan that is essentially $19.99 for un,imited data and SMS messages and 59.99 for 1000 anytime minutes. As far as the Blackberry Client is concerned, I am use the Blackberry Web Client (BWC). Have not activated BES side yet. Here's my "good" and "bad" lists on the BWC side:
GOOD
1. Excellent, super fast, very reliable basic messaging.
2. Allows you to auto forward and consolidate multiple e-mail accounts and have all messages forwarded to your device
3. Allows you to specify what return address you want the recipientto respond to.
4. Allows you to make the reciepient think that the message is coming from a different e-mail address than your tmo web client address. For example, I have a RIM pager and use that address as return address on XDA. Everyone still thinks I am using the RIM device, when in fact everything is being doen to and from the XDA.
BAD
1. Have not been able to download or open any attachments
2. Clinet does not automatically open the next message, like it odes on regular e-mail. makes you open each message manually.
3. Move message function does not seem to work i.e. you can delete a message, but you cannot seem to be able to move a message to say an archive folder.
4. The client softeare is not integrated with the "Sounds and Notifications" settings i.e. the balckberry client does not show up under the "sounds and notifications" menu, making it imposible to set any kind of audible, vibrating or flashing light alert when a message comes in. All you have is a very short and quiet "beep" when a new message arrives
I can still browse the web, but some sites are not as assessible as they were under th normal data service. For example, I cannot run he Smartner client anymore. It may be possible to add a second APN for regular data, but TMo tech support put me off trying this as they said it would creat a conflict.
All in all I am pleased with the software as I have now been finally able to retire my RIM ipager and now have everything on one device! :lol:
And oh yes, where do you get the software? Its part of the latest O2 ROM image. Download and install 1.72.181 ROM for the O2 myxda website
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris
thanks chris,
So to be able to browse the web, Im gonna need the 19.99 data right? I guess thats why the web wasnt working for me, I got the blackberry app to somewhat work but the web was a no go. Thats what I was afraid of, I definitely do not want to add another 19.99 to my plan.
Thanks for confirming the info with me.
Ben
Hi Ben
I am actually able to browse the web using the Blackbery APN (blackberry.net). I also had some success with APN: wap.voicestream.com. TMo have had some network issues recently that have interupted the Blackberry service. I have called tech support and they had to reprovision the account, which fixed the problems. I would give them a call, say you are having issues with web access and then ask them to reprovision the account for you. You should be able to reach most sites. My issues were more with accessing data and relay servers and services (a la Smartner, iAnywhere etc) than regular web sites.
Give that a try and see if that helps. Let me know how you get on
Regards
Chris
Ben
One more thing. You may be doing this already, but if not, make sure that you "stop" the blackberry software before you launch internet explorer. That way you will disconnect the blackberry connection and allow the XDA to start a new data connection under either APN: blackberry.net or APN: wap.voicestream.com (whichever you have setto default) Once finished with the internet you can stsrt the blackberry messaging client up again.
Regards
Chris
chris,
When u were able to access wap.voicestream.com and the blackberry.net, did you always have the 19.99 data option on your rate plan? I was just using the wap.voicestream.com apn since I only had tzones, but since I'm using the xdaII, I was always able to view html pages. Tmobile has now blocked port 80 if your not paying for the 19.99 data package. So I was just wondering if you always had 19.99 data option.
thanks for the help.
ben
Hi Ben
No, I was able to access it after I switched over to the blackberry plan. They disabled my regular data plan first and then activated the Blackberry plan. Tech support said that I should be able to "access most web sites" which appeared to be correct, aside form some of the network problems TMo had as mentioned earlier.
Regards
Chris
How did you guys get the software on your device? I am thinking about buying an XDA just for this. Right now I have a siemens sk65 coming in but I would love to get back to a pocketpc
Hi StingOr
The Blackberry software client is built into the latest O2 ROM (1.72.181), so if you get the O2 XDA 2 and load that ROM, then you would be good to go.
Regards
Chris
Is it possible to get the Titan to work on any service (US) without paying for the data plan? Ignore for a second that it has Wifi, i mean actually using a data plan without paying for the service. I was thinking with that, I could see about sourcing a WM6 SIp Softphone and run it through my Sip Server I run at home.
http://www.tvlesson.com/video/1125_how-to-hack-verizon-wireless-phone.html
See, these guys, on Verizon, changed their phone to use the guy's home proxy server. Now, of course, to get to your home proxy server, it would still need to traverse the Verizon network to be able to get to there. I wonder if it would be possible to get to that point.
This too:
http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/free-mobile-web-hack-verizon-wireless-02160220/
Basically what I was thinking is that with Google Voice + Gizmo, if I could get this thing on the internet, I could get a SIP Softphone and basically have unlimited calls on a mobile phone for $10 a year.
/bump to see if anyone has any suggestions
It isnt possbile to use data and not pay for it. I dont know if you can have friends and family on pay as you go. But you could add the google voice number to that list and then have free calling.
The alternative, I guess, would be to have it as a WiFi enabled SIP Phone. Not as good, but unless they make a micro Clear antennae adapter thats USB, I can't see another way. Verizon's data plans are ridiculously expensive when not packaged with a voice plan $50 a month for 5gbs, so that doesnt seem like a feasible option for this idea.
Hi folks,
I noticed last month on my Telus usage that my phone was showing data usage. I have set the APN type to supl,mms (removed default) so I didn't understand why there was data showing up. Telus was not helpful in identifying the packets.
I installed a tool called Network Log and added some filters. Based on the timestamps in my Telus usage and the logs, I have been able to identify the traffic as follows:
Application: (-1) Kernel
SRC: various, e.g. 100.123.71.10, 10.205.174.50, 10.206.97.89
DST: 255.255.255.255
Length: 306
Interface: UDP/rmnet_usb0
Protocol: BOOTP
Any ideas why the phone would be receiving this type of traffic?
I've checked my data usage from when I got the phone and it seems like it has been experiencing this all along.
After some Googling I found this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1342337
Which doesn't answer my question and also seems to be affecting a desktop. I used a traceroute tool on my phone to confirm that the IP is reachable over my 3G connection. Weird.
tyraen said:
I've checked my data usage from when I got the phone and it seems like it has been experiencing this all along.
After some Googling I found this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1342337
Which doesn't answer my question and also seems to be affecting a desktop. I used a traceroute tool on my phone to confirm that the IP is reachable over my 3G connection. Weird.
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10.x.x.x addresses are internal networks addresses. So it's coming from your provider. Where does it trace?
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10.x.x.x addresses are internal networks addresses. So it's coming from your provider. Where does it trace?
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Not very useful. For example, it goes:
1. 91.1.138.8
2. 10.233.166.225
So not very deep within the Telus network. I guess I need to reach out to them. I find it odd that my phone would be receiving the traffic but not others.
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Not very useful. For example, it goes:
1. 91.1.138.8
2. 10.233.166.225
So not very deep within the Telus network. I guess I need to reach out to them. I find it odd that my phone would be receiving the traffic but not others.
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It is a bit strange, but since you're technically still connected to their gateway, they can send you those packets.
It's mostly strange that they need to send you boostrap packets. If you enable data back, do you still get them?
Maybe for some reason they're not allowing you an address using dhcp because you removed default. Just a thought like that.
polobunny said:
It is a bit strange, but since you're technically still connected to their gateway, they can send you those packets.
It's mostly strange that they need to send you boostrap packets. If you enable data back, do you still get them?
Maybe for some reason they're not allowing you an address using dhcp because you removed default. Just a thought like that.
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Interesting thought, I enabled data earlier so I will see if the requests stop coming in.
They did not stop unfortunately. I have been in touch with Telus support and sent them some timestamps and the data that I have logged. Hopefully that will help.
tyraen said:
They did not stop unfortunately. I have been in touch with Telus support and sent them some timestamps and the data that I have logged. Hopefully that will help.
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Good luck with that. Do you know about the bootstrap packets though? I mean, they're not harmful, and I would find it surprising that Telus takes those into account.
polobunny said:
Good luck with that. Do you know about the bootstrap packets though? I mean, they're not harmful, and I would find it surprising that Telus takes those into account.
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Me too. I don't get it either. All I have to go on are the logs (which seem pretty comprehensive) giving me a timestamp that corresponds to the "Data Usage" entry in their account/billing screens.
I have a couple of friends that want to still be able to text but say they spend way too much time on their phones and want to NOT BE ABLE to get on the internet on their phones, not on cellular data or wifi, but still want to be able to SMS and MMS and of course make calls.
Is there a way to do this? They aren't very tech savvy so I think changing APN settings or host file (I don't know if phones use that?) would probably work but ideally don't want to actually turn off wifi because we have T-Mobile and one of the best things about T-Mobile is being able to call/text over wifi.
Any help is much appreciated!