So after a month of owning the View, I decided to try Honeycomb. I used globatron's process, as I am S-Off (HBOOT 6.12.1002, if memory serves, if that makes any difference). (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409306)
The process completed flawlessly, but the tablet was SO SLOW. I know it's not the end-all of performance metrics, but with Gingerbread, Linpack scores were in the mid 50's; with Honeycomb, they topped out in the low 20's (my EVO 4G does high 30's and is underclocked to 921MHz). Apps and menus would take more than a second to load. Some apps didn't even work - YouTube would force close if I tried watching a video (and when I searched for YouTube in the market, in hopes of an update, it didn't even show up!); the gallery didn't recognize a single picture that I had stored on the device, except for the ones in the camera's own folder. It also drained a LOT of battery in a short amount of time.
I searched for Honeycomb issues, but I found nothing reporting these kinds of problems. I've since gone back to Gingerbread so that it's useable (and thanks to the Nandroid, it's like I never tried HC), but what the hell was wrong with my Honeycomb install?
Furthermore, my girlfriend's View was laggy when she did the OTA to Honeycomb, and she had me downgrade her back to Gingerbread only a couple days later. The rave reviews of HC on the View just have me wondering "why not me?!" Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
did you clean install?
Can you clarify what you mean by "clean install"? I've not heard that terminology before...
I meant wipe/hard factory reset and wipe cache, that's what I usually do before flashing. I suggest try to flash other HC Rom like leedroid and see if you will get improvements.
I wiped data and cache before starting the process. Perhaps I'll try again with a different ROM, but I figured the stock ROM should've worked smoothly.
Yes very
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Try this rom. Solved all my speed issues with HC. You'll love it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416868
Makes View just like typical HC tablet. Browser is MUCH better.
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^ I'll give it a shot tonight, thanks!
To be honest, I couldn't quite figure out what the benefit of Sense on HC was... I've used my friend's Xoom briefly, and saw no functional differences. I suppose probably widgets, given that that's where most of the benefits of Sense are.
I'll post results once I'm able to evaluate.
Thanks again!
Flashed it last night. Had to flash it twice because the first time it absolutely would not maintain a wifi connection (not even long enough for me to get an IP address and switch to static IP).
Seemed smooth (low-30's MFLOPS), but the G-sensor (or accelerometer) was a bit jittery - games like SpeedX 3D were all over the place, and the holographic images in the gallery were shaking. Had me worried I was developing Parkinson's.
Of more pressing importance, I couldn't access any multimedia stored in a folder other than DCIM from the Gallery app, and couldn't even open images through a file explorer. Flashed back to stock Gingerbread so it's usable while I investigate.
Frustrating that I just can't get Honeycomb to work properly on this damn thing. lol
Mathman85 said:
Of more pressing importance, I couldn't access any multimedia stored in a folder other than DCIM from the Gallery app, and couldn't even open images through a file explorer. Flashed back to stock Gingerbread so it's usable while I investigate.
Frustrating that I just can't get Honeycomb to work properly on this damn thing. lol
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There's a fix for getting the system to rescan your memory cards; I'll look in a bit and see if I can't post it here. As for HC working properly, I love it. The de-Sensed HC was a thing of beauty. If I can lay my hands on a De-Sensed version of LeeDroid's work I'd be in heaven. The standard HC interface was clearly created in response to Sense's user-friendliness, and they came up with a superior product.
I looked around, but never saw a definitive answer... most of what I saw was "clear cache!" or "clear data!" but those didn't work for me. When my girlfriend's had the problem (while on Gingerbread), opening the image in ES File Explorer and choosing Gallery as the default app for those file types usually corrected it.
And I do like Honeycomb, and love the ability to resize widgets, I just need it stable and fully functional before I'm comfortable sticking with it. My work phone is a Galaxy Nexus, and I LOVE ICS, but Honeycomb is damn close in style and functionality.
I can't find the posting I saw, but it essentially was to create a directory of a certain name on the card, and that forced the Flyer to re-scan the entire card, graphics and all. Evidently something akin to a thumbnail cache can get corrupted and that causes this issue, and creating that directory forces that file to be recreated entirely. I'm still kinda new to Android, so I don't know where the nomenclature diverges from Intel-based storage management...
Thanks for taking the time to look around. I found this, but it says it's for the Music folder... perhaps I should try the same in the Pictures folder.
That directory name looks very familiar, but you're right, it's for music, not graphics. It might work for you, what's the worst that can happen?
The other thing that occurred to me is to swap the micro-SD card with another one. Placing a new card in forces "stuff" to kick in, and I'd imagine the process needs to repeat once to replace the old card back in the slow. Or at least a portion of the process to see if it "knows" that old card when you put it back in.
The content is stored in the internal memory - not on an external SD card (I only use the external card for Nandroid backups and things of the like). That's what's so baffling to me - it's the View's own non-removable memory that isn't being scanned for pictures and videos.
Not only wipe data and cache, but also format system, wipe dalvik in recovery when doing a fresh rom install for best results.
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Looking for input on the best way to set up file folders to be utilized on both WebOS and Android partitions. I tend to go into probably Way too much detail, skip to the bottom for the tl:dr.
I first noticed that the TouchPad doesn't handle folders very well when I tried organizing many files for school. I had each class in a different folder hierarchy based on course. But when I go to access them, they show up as a huge long list of .pdfs instead of my nice organized fashion. Similar thing happened with my music. I shrugged my shoulders cause my file naming convention was good enough that I had no issues.
Then I installed CM7 Alpha 3.0 (recently flashed 3.5, same situation). Got the Android partition all setup the way I wanted, and further organized my folder structure to match. Rocked Android for a few weeks, and got nostalgic, so I booted back to WebOS. I immediately noticed that my TouchPad claimed I had no music, while not a lot, there's around 5gigs floating on it. Told myself I would look into it, spaced it off. That was until I noticed I couldn't access any recently downloaded and organized .pdfs that were done on the Android boot. What gives?
I've always found it frustrating that the native file selection system in WebOS doesn't give you file path options, but it is what it is. I know there is a file system browser on Preware, honestly I think it's cumbersome, but may have to rely on that I suppose. I have major OCD as far as how folders are organized, and really don't want to just dump everything on the root. But again, if I have to, I shall.
TL: DR Ultimately I'm trying to get info on how the WebOS partition sees files, and how the folder heirarchy works. I have files in some folders that are recognized, and some that are not. Is it naming convention, or just location? My file issues are primarily .pdfs and music files, but concerned with any productivity file extensions for the sake of school (primary use of device.)
16Gb TouchPad WebOS 3.0.4, F4 Phantom kernel, great number of patches, Dual boot CM7 3.50
Did you (or anyone else) ever find any information on this issue? I find it frustrating having to go through Internalz Pro and go through each folder to do anything. My music will not show up through the stock player (which would be great on webOS because the android sound goes bad when the screen is off).
I have not. Haven't played with my TouchPad much recently, mainly cause every ROM I flash wifi breaks.. lol.
If I ever do get a solid solution, I will try to post up.
im betting this a indexer issue if want try to force it to index, look for "Media Indexer Refresh" in preware, that should find any stray media supported by webos
Yeah, it's definitely an indexer issue. A lot of people used to say to connect it via USB and then do a hard unmount (where it says "ouch...") and let the indexer run but that doesn't work.
Thank you for that suggestion though, it is exactly what I needed. I always thought there should be some command or some patch that would force it to re-index but never found it. I ran it one time and my pics and music show up. Awesome!!
So, I just want to say that I am legitimately really pissed right now, so sorry if I sound like I'm raging. I was running my flyer on GB when I first got it and the SD card read media fine. I upgraded to HC, and all was well at first. Then, it randomly stopped reading any of my media. I wiped SD, cleared caches, tried actually ALL the ROMs, and every suggestion I could find. I downgraded to GB, and everything worked again. Just upgraded back to HC, and absolutely nothing is read again. I'm on Virtuous right now. I am so angry, as I HATE gingerbread, but since I have a WiFi Flyer, I HAVE to use SD card music. AUGH. I want to punch someone.
Just a suggestion (and don't be angry at me ): try another sdcard, I know yours is working with GB but I found out sometimes a cable or a little piece of hardware can be tricky and behave oddly.
I already tried the SD from my Inc2. No dice. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
Too bad, but don't loose hope for Noob's Guide #7
LOL. If I make any more, then I have to make a directory thread, because my sig is like 5 characters away from being full. I can't even write that I have the OG Sammy Gtab.
i was having problems with the HTC gallery app on my wifi flyer after HC upgrade. Installed the stock HC gallery, and havent had an issue since.
I use mVideo player too, and that always finds things on my SD card straight away.
In regards to music, try the PlayerPro free trial and see if that is any better. I've used it on my S2 for a while now and it's great.
I think the issue is to do with the way the HTC apps interact with the storage. Its like it has the index of the SD card set to refresh only on a certain action, but I'm as yet to discover what that is.
Also, try running the flyer without the 'fast boot' mode on in power settings.
I never use fastboot mode. I have been mounting and unmounting as well as rebooting and have been rewarded with nothing but Media force closes.
Hey AgalychnisCallidryas
Off-topic, to change your mood
I found this, I think you need another avatar http://abowman.com/google-modules/tree-frog/#gadgetSWF
I have already experienced a similar issue using HC ROMs ( Stock/Cooked ), and it was one of the main reasons I reverted back to GB ROMs, see me post HERE and HERE.
a member mentioned a solution HERE, but I haven't tried it...
i can confirm the above fix works for the HTC stock apps.
Yeah, well, I already had seen and tried that, and no dice. Thanks for the help though. I really want to use stock music, but I'm using PowerAmp for now, which seems to work fine.
i am running Rocko rom 3.0 and webtop+ 1.3 but it's done this ever since new and stock.
if i try to load a web page that has a decent amount off pictures firefox will close. now since going to rocko and webtop+ it will lock up my phone all together... even if i unplug the phone from the hddmi cale i will have to do a battery pull to get it to work again.
i thought maybe there wasn't enough free space in .osh to cache all the photos so i moved webtop to sd (8gb) and it still does the same thing. anyone have any idea what i can do to fix this?
edit: for reference this is a page that will cause my problem: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695011&page=18
Wow! The initial load of that page eats over 400MB of RAM on a regular PC. I had to set up a 500MB dedicated cache for Firefox to even get it to load in webtop. Webtop caches Firefox in RAM so wt2sd wouldn't fix it.
I could create a custom preference file with a massive dedicated disk cache for you of instruct you how to do it. The drawback is that webtop Firefox will run slower and be doing a lot of writes to some sort of flash memory. This may cause premature failure of either the internal memory or the SDCard depending on where the cache is put.
i pretty much figured that is what the problem was. thanks for the offer to help but i couldn't imagine webtop being slower than it already is. i was hoping to just carry this phone and my mini bluetooth keyboard on a upcoming trip but i guess i'll need a net book or just take the time to post from my phone.
Phone freezes, reboots, or does "nothing" at all when moving app/s to SD Card
Ah, the age old problem with moving apps.
I recently found my way back to a PA, AOKP, CM ROM (Jellybam).
Unfortunately, I have some nerve damage in my hand. Since the invention of the 4.2 JB keyboard, I've been able to use my Note more frequently, and thoroughly. There are various reasons why I need to use this ROM in particular, one of them being that customizability is a necessity, and Roms like Avatar, Chameleon, and PACMan just aren't there yet, either in performance, or stability. I spent the whole day looking for an alternative, but none came closer to meeting my needs, while still being callable of daily driving.
My issue is, I have a large collection of apps, and I'm leaving for vacation. Many of them hold an extremely large cache of offline data, while others are games that have 100+APK files, and 1-2GB of OBB or other SD Data. I still have a ton of apps I need to install, and the inherent 2gb limit of Android is seriously going to make my life tough. My family is counting on me for maps, itinerary, and even entertainment.
These apps could easily be installed if I could simply move a dozen or so of the largest apps, and a dozen or so of the medium sized apps to the SD card.
However, upon clicking the "Move to SD Card" button in the app info panel, one of a few things happens. The button might Greg out, and say "moving" for hours, and never get there, the phone could freeze, requiring a reboot as soon as I try to back out, hit the home button, or do anything except scroll; or the phone might freeze and reboot, or just reboot immediately upon clicking the move button.
Occasionally, I'll be successful. I've tried clearing a the data from a few system apps, like "Media Storage", and I'm not sure if it worked or not, but over a period of around ten restarts, I managed to get three apps transferred to the "SD Card", although they definitely were not the apps I needed to move. The ones I managed to move were ones I chose at random while I flashed several kernels, root .zips, recoveries, mods, etcetera. They were all less than 25mb.
I'd owe you forever, and would be willing to assist you on a project, or finding a fix for some of your own technological ailments, if you can help me with this.
A search of XDA, and Google's hive-mind brings up a couple thread where the issue is discussed, but those were from years ago, and only one was on the same ROM as I am, and that thread was deleted--all that remains was a description and the details of it in the search index.
So, a penny for your thoughts? Even if you don't have anything concrete, the discussion, suggestions, and conversations might help.
Mad thanks all around.
Jamesyboy said:
Ah, the age old problem with moving apps.
I recently found my way back to a PA, AOKP, CM ROM (Jellybam).
Unfortunately, I have some nerve damage in my hand. Since the invention of the 4.2 JB keyboard, I've been able to use my Note more frequently, and thoroughly. There are various reasons why I need to use this ROM in particular, one of them being that customizability is a necessity, and Roms like Avatar, Chameleon, and PACMan just aren't there yet, either in performance, or stability. I spent the whole day looking for an alternative, but none came closer to meeting my needs, while still being callable of daily driving.
My issue is, I have a large collection of apps, and I'm leaving for vacation. Many of them hold an extremely large cache of offline data, while others are games that have 100+APK files, and 1-2GB of OBB or other SD Data. I still have a ton of apps I need to install, and the inherent 2gb limit of Android is seriously going to make my life tough. My family is counting on me for maps, itinerary, and even entertainment.
These apps could easily be installed if I could simply move a dozen or so of the largest apps, and a dozen or so of the medium sized apps to the SD card.
However, upon clicking the "Move to SD Card" button in the app info panel, one of a few things happens. The button might Greg out, and say "moving" for hours, and never get there, the phone could freeze, requiring a reboot as soon as I try to back out, hit the home button, or do anything except scroll; or the phone might freeze and reboot, or just reboot immediately upon clicking the move button.
Occasionally, I'll be successful. I've tried clearing a the data from a few system apps, like "Media Storage", and I'm not sure if it worked or not, but over a period of around ten restarts, I managed to get three apps transferred to the "SD Card", although they definitely were not the apps I needed to move. The ones I managed to move were ones I chose at random while I flashed several kernels, root .zips, recoveries, mods, etcetera. They were all less than 25mb.
I'd owe you forever, and would be willing to assist you on a project, or finding a fix for some of your own technological ailments, if you can help me with this.
A search of XDA, and Google's hive-mind brings up a couple thread where the issue is discussed, but those were from years ago, and only one was on the same ROM as I am, and that thread was deleted--all that remains was a description and the details of it in the search index.
So, a penny for your thoughts? Even if you don't have anything concrete, the discussion, suggestions, and conversations might help.
Mad thanks all around.
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So, after some more screwing around, I found that indeed, clearing the data for the "Media Storage" app temporarily fixes the problem for all but 2 minutes. I'm woefully unprepared to understand the app-- particularly whether it's a contaner of sorts for media thumbnails, tags, etc...or...whateer....the...other....option.....is.....
I suppose i'll try pulling a TiBu Pkg of a "Media Storae" app from another ROM, import it into this one, and fire it up.
Before i cleared it, the app had 27mb of data and cache, and aftered i cleared it, it slimmed down to 7. Within a minute or two, it was back up to 27mb, and my phone was freezing on the transfer of apps to my sd card again.
Possibly your phone is just too low on memory and you don't have enough memory to do the move to sd card. Try temporarily removing some apps and then move your big ones and all that you can and then install the apps back.
Or you could backup a few apps with TB that you don't use much which will free up some memory. Then when you need the app use TB to restore it quickly.
Cache can be a killer. Just removed a little over 200MB of cache files myself this morning. Try a good cache cleaner like "Clean Master."
If your phone is loaded with media files then your media data will be that high. Sounds like to me your phone is simply overloaded.
so in an attempt to make this just a little bit easyer on the eyes and brain ill start with what im trying to do
essentially i want at least android 2.3 with extended internal memory (the /sd-ext mount as /data) still being able to receive calls (i think cm7 rom wouldn't allow calls if i used the embedded a2sd) and at least skype working
ill go ahead and knock off the usual suspects
i used revolutionary to S-OFF and i cant remember how i rooted i think that was revolutionary as well installed CWM 5 somewhere along the line and the sd card is formatted correctly
so the main problem i am having is half the things i need to download are on out of date links or simply dont work (for example unrevoked) however through research and scripting on my part i have gotten it pretty close to what i really want the closest i got was with BCM-RC4 by zero cool which installed with reversed partitions through mounts2sd and it worked tremendously well android ice cream sandwich and everything was pretty much working
right up until i tried to use facebook or skype apps, facebook literally took hours to install and then hardly worked and despite having about 800mb of internal memory registered i was still getting low memory notifications wtf!? but somewhere along the line i changed the mounts2sd settings and facebook worked in a passable fashion
except skype...skype just refuses to work it starts and it logs in but as soon as i try to call i get a black screen with a blue skype icon at the top left and after a few minutes it crashes
i primarily tried to get cm7 to work since people said it was most stable however as a work around for the sd-ext problem i am having i have tried: S2E, A2SD, Root # All Data2SD, Link2SD, Apps 2 SD literally nothing has worked how i wanted it to and i've followed countless guides which have all resulted in one of 3 results (assuming the links they used are still valid or can be found at all) either the phone wont make or receive calls, certain apps wont work at all or the internal memory isn't extended anyway
im usually pretty good with things like this but i literally cannot for the life of me figure this out and it is doing my head in does anyone have any idea how to make this work
also i've changed to 4ext and im gonna try that out see if it produces more favorable results....so far not good
neuroticdax said:
also i've changed to 4ext and im gonna try that out see if it produces more favorable results....so far not good
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so 4ext did produce more favorable results formatting was a lot easier as gparted wasn't actually making partitions...for some reason
i did manage to get skype working and the /sd-ext /data switch and everything looks good so far
i THINK im not sure but i think the default kernal (BCM comes with 3) wasn't working properly so i switched it to a different one and suddenly everything works perfectly