Helping Switching Plans, after being overcharged - HTC Amaze 4G

So my Tmobile bill has been $150 ever since I bought it back in Aug 2011. When I signed the contract they told me it would be $70 per month, + $15 starting in Oct, and + $25 incl my wireless broadband. That totals $110, and somehow, they have managed to tack on an additional $40 EVERY MONTH since I bought the damn thing! Not one month since I bought the phone has my bill even been close to $110. So last month, again, I called at payment time, and they said there was a $10 charge on my account because they added a feature to my phone monthly, that I did not ask for. They removed it and said they would credit toward my account on my next bill.
So heres the thing, this month I hear about this prepaid $50 per month plan! Thats all I have to pay and I get unlimited-- everything is the same! To get that plan though I have to pay $200 to get out of my current contract, and STILL pay my $50 for the first month!
So after I have been practically robbed ever since I joined Tmobile, now they want me to pay $250 for a plan that they should have offered me in the very beginning!
Is there any loop holes here that I can get out of this contract and switch plans without paying $200??? Your answers are very much appreciated, my bill is due 2 days from now.

Call and threaten to cancel
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I don't understand. What do you mean "threaten to cancel"? I actually have told them I was going to cancel for previous issues. I spoke to a manager and she was very rude to me, and told me "fine cancel that will cost you $200". Also what is BBB?
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BBB= the Better Business Bureau

Keep in mind that if you signed up for the $50 plan initially, you would have paid a lot more for the phone. The pre-paids and value plans don't provide a phone subsidy.
You should be able to switch to a number of different plans of the "classic " type without paying a fee, but not the value or pre-paid type.
But there does seem to be something odd going on. I can honestly say that I've never had any problem or even rudeness from a T-Mo rep. Although I understand things changed somewhat during the ATT debacle.
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Find out the lemon law for cell phones in your state. In Illinois, if we do 3 or more exchanges on our cell phones, we can break the contract for free and legally.
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/23444.php
The Illinois House has passed a "cellphone lemon law" which would enable consumers to break their contract without financial penalty, if their handset develops a fault on three or more occasions.
I had replaced my Amaze about 5 times within 3 weeks because of blue lines in my LCD. You can just tell them you have blue lines in it over and over until you get a third or fourth replacement, then threaten to break your contract and you won't have to pay an ETF (Cancellation Fee)

This is my 2nd replacement. I had to get a new MyTouch 4G, and then they replaced that with the Amaze. That only counts as 2?
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Okay, let's start with the not being close to $110... Have you been dinged for roaming on AT&T's network perhaps? And did you factor in state sales tax? And those unwanted features, yeah. That's them screwing you.
But the moving down to the lower 50/month price plan? That's a rate for people that have bought their phone outright instead of getting the $300 or so subsidy on the device in exchange for 2 years service. Honestly, while I hate contracts, I think they have every right to charge you 200 bucks to recoup the cost of the subsidy. You can cancel your extra features to drop down to 70 a month. But that's the minimum eligible rate you agreed to for the subsidy that you received when purchasing your device.

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Okay, let's start with the not being close to $110... Have you been dinged for roaming on AT&T's network perhaps? And did you factor in state sales tax? And those unwanted features, yeah. That's them screwing you.
But the moving down to the lower 50/month price plan? That's a rate for people that have bought their phone outright instead of getting the $300 or so subsidy on the device in exchange for 2 years service. Honestly, while I hate contracts, I think they have every right to charge you 200 bucks to recoup the cost of the subsidy. You can cancel your extra features to drop down to 70 a month. But that's the minimum eligible rate you agreed to for the subsidy that you received when purchasing your device.
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Ok, heres how it went down at the sale. I went into Tmobile as a new customer. At that time they told me only the prepaid plan of $50 was available to customers who had been on the plan for already a full 2 year contract. $70 I thought no biggie, and then tack on a $25 charge per month for my Internet, and then $15 after that for the phone. Cool I can deal with that. My first bill $150, oh well we had to pay to start your plan. My 2nd bill, Oh we had to charge you for this fee (I dont remember anymore). Literally every month I have called to complain and it was always a new excuse. A couple months was legitimate because I ordered an $8 battery, and it was another $5 for something else that same month. But that was only one out of 6 months. And every month seems to be something new. Last month was the first month they said "well we added this $10 feature. It sends you news updates, and blablabla.." Wtf, I never ordered that. They removed it. I never was asked and they still charged me $150 last month.
Yeah they were very very rude to me. I called because I had a very important text message that would not switch from the old MyTouch to the new MyTouch. And this text message was incriminating evidence on someone who had robbed me. I called maybe 2x previously I think and they were not able to help me. I went into the Tmobile store on 2 separate occasions and they were not able to help me. I wanted to talk to a manager to get better assistence because this just wasnt making sense. I heard I could transfer my text messages, all the other text messages, but this text message which turned out to be an MMS, would not transfer!
She told me they had tried to help me, and there was nothing she could do, and she didnt even let me reply before she said have a nice day. (How the conversation went exactly I dont remember) but it was rude. I called the Tmobile Corp office and she said the same thing and said there was no one she could transfer me to, and basically hung up on me.
Literally all I needed to do was send the text messages to my Gmail account. All the messages sent. I sent in my old phone. It was that easy. She wouldnt give me the time of day and that was really a point to me that discouraged me from liking them. Besides the $40 over charge per month, besides I had trouble with their phones from the very first month I had one, besides I would be on the phone with customer service we would get disconnected and they didnt call me back, having to wait on hold again, once over an hour on hold.
So I really hated tmobile for while, but with the $50 prepaid plan I will just take it. I was going to switch though as soon as I could if my $150 was not going to stop. $40 doesnt seem like alot but when you are counting on that money every month, that seriously is just about half my groceries for the month if not all of it for some. I never crossed with any AT&T coverage. That was never an issue.

If you want, PM me your # and I will call you from work and go over everything on your plan and either explain or fix it.
BTW the $60 prepaid is the equivalent plan to yours,not the $50
What I am not getting is where you say you have a $70 plan and $25 for web, is that a hotspot? web for your phone?
Just PM me, Im not rude

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wanting to get Evo 3D...new to Sprint, a couple of questions

hey guys. my Evo died about two weeks ago. i will tell you they have been two very hard weeks.
i've decided rather than buy another Evo, that i'll suffer with a POS samsung phone from the dark ages and wait for an Evo 3D.
I have a few questions for you guys:
I'm not a Sprint customer nor have I ever been. what's the process to get a Sprint account? if you have mediocre/bad credit, can you still open a new account? Is there a fee you pay in that case? or do they outright deny you an account? if you pay a fee, how much? if i want two phone lines in that account, twice the fee?
regarding the phone, the $199 is an upgrade price? does that mean if i come on to Sprint now that's not the price I get for the phone?
provided all the above goes well and I can open an account AND get two Evo 3Ds...what's the best price I can expect on the unlimited data plans? based on the Sprint website it's $(70 + 10) x 2 = $160? how much are the "taxes, fees, and surcharges" that they convieniently don't include in that price? is there a student plant/discount?
seems expensive! i'm paying $90 for two lines on MetroPCS right now with everything except slow data speeds...
thank you for your answers guys. I really want the Evo 3D, and having crippled the Evo 4G on MetroPCS for nearly a year, I'm really hoping I can let the Evo 3D work like it's meant to!
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hey guys. my Evo died about two weeks ago. i will tell you they have been two very hard weeks.
i've decided rather than buy another Evo, that i'll suffer with a POS samsung phone from the dark ages and wait for an Evo 3D.
I have a few questions for you guys:
I'm not a Sprint customer nor have I ever been. what's the process to get a Sprint account? if you have mediocre/bad credit, can you still open a new account? Is there a fee you pay in that case? or do they outright deny you an account? if you pay a fee, how much? if i want two phone lines in that account, twice the fee?
regarding the phone, the $199 is an upgrade price? does that mean if i come on to Sprint now that's not the price I get for the phone?
provided all the above goes well and I can open an account AND get two Evo 3Ds...what's the best price I can expect on the unlimited data plans? based on the Sprint website it's $(70 + 10) x 2 = $160? how much are the "taxes, fees, and surcharges" that they convieniently don't include in that price? is there a student plant/discount?
seems expensive! i'm paying $90 for two lines on MetroPCS right now with everything except slow data speeds...
thank you for your answers guys. I really want the Evo 3D, and having crippled the Evo 4G on MetroPCS for nearly a year, I'm really hoping I can let the Evo 3D work like it's meant to!
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You could pay anywhere between 0-400 of 500 dollers for a deposit and yes if you came is get the EVO 3d for 199$ also your bill would be like 160 with insurance I know that seems like a lot a month bot compaired to vzw tmo or ATT its cheap for smart phones
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My guess is most u will prolly pay is 200 for a deposit unless ur credit is really bad
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As far as bad credit it is a case by case scenario. usually if you have bad credit they put a spending cap on you. So getting 2 3d's might be hard if they do that. If your credit is bad enough they might deny you BUT i have never heard of this happening. The upgrade price is also the new line price so the phone will be $199 with new activation.
As far as a plan i recommend the 129.99 family plan. with the 10 dollar add on for both 3d's it is only $150. Discounts are available but you will have to check with your school / employer for the percentage off they get you. I know if you have a credit union account you can get %10. But like i said you have to check.
Hope this helps.
My credit is pretty bad and I didn't have to pay any thing down. I do have a spending cap of $150, but since it's only me and my bill has been $86, I have no reason to worry about it. I di have to pay the $35 activation fee on my 1st bill.
Fees for me have been about $16 total on the 69.99 plan. I plan on paying about $100 a month when I get the E3D.
The only reason keeping me from switching my phone over to Metro is the really slow data connection. I was playing on a phone on Metro and the data speed was about 1/3 of what I am getting on 3G
If you want to tether off your phone, which I do when I'm not at home, Sprint has unlimited data. This by far keeps me on Sprint more than anything else. No other carrier offers "truly unlimited data".
Don't forget there is a $125.00 credit if you are coming over from another carrier. It is supposed to expire the day before the Evo3d is released but I have read about people that asked Sprint to extend it for them and they did.
Look into that. Im not sure if it's $125 per phone number or per account. Worth calling about.
Edit, here it is:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/portcredit/?ECID=vanity:switchtosprint
Again, it expires 6/23, but call and ask them about it and they more than likely will allow you the credit. It is only one more day.
working at sprint I never saw a deposit over $150
Sprint is extremely Lax on there credit unless they have changed.
unless you have terrible credit you'll most likely need no deposit.
new line/fully eligible upgrade prices are the same
so if its 199 after rebates you pay 199, and a 36$ activation fee that gets put on your first bill.
take a look at trading in your old device and talk to them about the carrier transfer credit.
This was my scenario as well. I don't have the best credit, in fact it's pretty damn ****ty. Today I was approved for 5 lines, no deposit, and no spending limit. And that's just me, no co-signers or anything. I was even given an account number so when I go back on the 24th, I won't have to do the process over. So OP, I'd say you're in good shape.
I started this thread a while back, you might be able to get one of these discounts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006791
thanks for the information and definitely thanks for the info on the student discount. both my wife and I qualify (she's a grad student, i'm a law student) and that 23% off brings the price down a lot, much closer to what i'm paying now
I work for Sprint, if you have a mediocre credit score you'll probably pay $50 for deposit then if you have a bad credit score you might pay $100 and it's for each line. You'll get the same discount on phones as what others are getting and you will get a balance limit probably $150 to $200. If you port in to Sprint from a different carrier you will get $125 credit and it is for each line. But you will get it probably after 3 or 4 months after your activation and it will automatically apply on your bill. This promo is up until june 26 only.
The family plan is the way to go. If you want to order online you could do the EPRP plan for $109.99 for 1600 minutes shared and $10 extra per line for smartphones coming out to $129.99. I know the 23% student credits that were mentioned don't discount the $10 fee or any additional lines. On the EPRP family plan the 3rd line and up is $15 vs $20.

Bought an EVO 3D, but...

Close thread please. how do you do this?
Have you tried calling them and asking what all the fees are about? The retention center # is somewhere floating around here, I hear they are very helpful
everyone gets the 10 dollar charge
if your happy with the phone, i'd say suck it up
if your not happy with it, take it back.
Sprint has never screwed me over, in fact they gave me a $10 credit for having tower issues in my area
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Sprint is already trying to screw me by removing a save50 invoice credit, and they are charging me $10 more per month (not taxes) then what it said on my original receipt. I hate to have to return the evo 3d because I like it, but Sprint has a bad reputation of screwing over their customers on the invoice credits. I don't know whether to sue them for cancelling my original order and making me a new order without my approval, or to just cancel it and return the phone.
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It is always funny that if a company makes a mistake like this, the first thing people like the OP think about is suing the company. Over what? What phone did you come from? Was it a smart phone? A Razr? All you have to do is call them and explain what the deal is and they will 99% of the time fix it for you.
".....they are charging me $10 more per month (not taxes) then what it said on my original receipt."
In regards to the $10/month, are you referring to the monthly Premium Data fee? It's required on the EVO3D (and on other 4G phones), even if you are on SERO. It may not show on the receipt when you buy the phone but will appear on your monthly statement. Did you get it at a store, online or telesales? I called in my order and they stated very clearly that this phone requires the added monthly fee and exactly how much it was. With online purchasing, it warns you with a checkbox confirmation about the add on monthly reoccurring fee and will not let you proceed to order it without being ok'd by you.
If you enjoy the phone as much as I do then IMO it's worth the extra $10. If you think it's too much, you have 30 days to return it.
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It is always funny that if a company makes a mistake like this, the first thing people like the OP think about is suing the company. Over what? What phone did you come from? Was it a smart phone? A Razr? All you have to do is call them and explain what the deal is and they will 99% of the time fix it for you.
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this is america dude, we sue over everything D:
The $10 fee is for all smart phones not just 4g ones. The only smart phone that does not require the $10 fee is the Samsung Replenish Android phone.
lol @ trying to sue sprint over an invoicing issue. Lol. Theyll murder you in court.
But in all seriousness, yes all sprint smartphones have the $10 fee except for one. Still comes out cheaper than other carriers data charges. In fact much cheaper and much better value imo
Dude I have just been trying to get the $50 invoice credit that was on my original order, and I've been getting the run-around for two weeks. I understand the $10 fee, even though it wasn't on my original order. But cancelling my order and making a new order without the credit and without notifying me seems shady. Before this I had my Droid X that I flashed to cricket. It's not 4G but it was cheap and reliable. With the phone rooted and optimized, it was pretty quick. I'm on a fixed income, so I can't pay more than $70 per month. When I thought I could get the EVO 3d for $60 per month, I decided to go for it. It just seems deceiving when my invoice says that I will be paying $60 per month plus taxes, then they say it will be $90 per month when I talked to them on the phone. That's a significant difference.
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I can't pay more than $70 per month.
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take it back it then, I don't think anyone is paying that low of a monthly cost for the 3d.
OP, create a aol email account. Sprint gives you a %10 discount if you have an aol email account. That would take your bill to about $73. Good luck
".....and they are charging me $15 more per month (not taxes) then what it said on my original receipt"
"It just seems deceiving when my invoice says that I will be paying $60 per month plus taxes, then they say it will be $90 per month when I talked to them on the phone. That's a significant difference."
Although you've made a significant edit to your original post, there's something still not right with your math. You first stated it was higher than you expected at a extra $10/month, then edited to $15, but you say it's now a $30 difference(from the $60 you thought you would be charged per month to $90 that you now claim).
Just tell them you work for your local school district. That's a 15 percent discount.
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Upgrade fee change! It's now doubled!

AT&T is screwing us again! There doubling the upgrade fee this Sunday from $18 to $36!! It's changing a week before the galaxy note is being released. Thanks again AT&T!
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Orange_furball said:
AT&T is screwing us again! There doubling the upgrade fee this Sunday from $18 to $36!! It's changing a week before the galaxy note is being released. Thanks again AT&T!
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I've been off all week, but this will be an interesting change to go back to work with on Monday. I just saw it on Engadget...
Well one thing I will say is preorder the Galaxy Note before sunday, the upgrade is processed immediately thus your fee with only be $18 if you upgrade today or tomorrow before the change on Sunday. This applies to at&t upgrades only, I am not sure how third party upgrades process such as Best Buy, etc...
- Dan
I went into the store and preordered mine and they told me that I made it just before the upgrade fee increase. Then they waived it.
I reserved my note @ Best Buy. They have not charged the upgrade fee, so well see. I'm sure AT&T will waive it, though. They are usually good about stuff like that...
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I just pre ordered mine at Best Buy and they told me $18
I guess I better call
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This upgrade fee should only apply if you order directly from at&t in some manner?
But if you order from 3rd party group like Amazon, Costco, etc.... we should be safe from this bs?
Aerials said:
This upgrade fee should only apply if you order directly from at&t in some manner?
But if you order from 3rd party group like Amazon, Costco, etc.... we should be safe from this bs?
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I believe you are still charged the upgrade fee. You just don't see it because it appears on your next bill.
Tell me if I'm wrong though.
Some 3rd party retailer can wavie the upgrade fee but usually they will say so up front. AT&T still charges the fee but those retailers give you money back.
My Perimer account has been showing up with $36 upgrade fee for a year now. And also consistently shows new phone releases $100 more than non-primer acccounts or stores.
So, AT&T is simply leveling the field for all customers. Sooner or later, your new phone will be $100 more (so GS2 will be $299 and Note will be $399) as well if this trend continues.
AT&T will always try to nickel and dime you with some ridiculous charges. You just have to know how to call and complain about the charges and they will drop it for you. Every time they tried to charge me those ridiculous fees I called and complained and got it waved.
deeken said:
AT&T will always try to nickel and dime you with some ridiculous charges. You just have to know how to call and complain about the charges and they will drop it for you. Every time they tried to charge me those ridiculous fees I called and complained and got it waved.
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Agreed. It is like this with Comcast, too. If you have shown loyalty as a long time customer and tell them you are dissatisfied, charges like this are easily negotiable.
I used to be a long time loyal customer . . . had a corporate account over 10 years old predating the cingular merger. Then I went and got married. Trying to get the frickers to add my wife to my account was like I was like talking to a brick wall... it took three days of being on the phone over eight hours (that's 24 hours total, mind you, not 8 hours spread over three days) and the only solution they ever found was to cancel my current account and create a new one from scrap. So now I'm only a 2 year customer instead of a 10+ year corporate customer. Grrrrr.
jpeg42 said:
Agreed. It is like this with Comcast, too. If you have shown loyalty as a long time customer and tell them you are dissatisfied, charges like this are easily negotiable.
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Yes Comcast Is exactly like that. I have had Adelphia cable and Comcast tool them over years ago. They jacked up the prices around two years ago. My dad called and complained. Said he would was going to Go to direct tv. They gave us an he upgrade, free DVR upgrade, top of the line Internet, free phone, and another he box for 1/2 the price per month. With that all added to our other stuff we only pay around $150 a month.
AT&T on the hand has never done anything like that for us. We have been with them when they were still Cingular. In fact my mom just get her Cingular sim card replaced with her 3G one fort her iPhone. They don't do crap for us. We pay close to $300 a month (and this month more that $300, do the new fee) and it continually rises because of these new data plans. I was in the market for a new network this time around, but they all suck. I have never been throttled, never went over my limit, my mom pays for the 2gb data plans on all of our accounts, and combined we use about 2.7gb per month. (thats 1.5 for me, 1.1 for my sister and .1 for my mom.)
My only other option was Verizon and the galaxy nexus but I chose the note and AT&T.
I hope I don't have to regret it.
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Upgrade fee is something that ATT CSR can easily remove for you. You just have to call and be friendly with them. I haven't yet to have any issue convincing them that upgrade fee is unreasonable (knock on wood). So the least you can try is reduce it to $18 if you get charged $36 by telling CSR that you preordered before the price increase date. I would first try to get the whole thing removed via 611.

Are one-year contracts truly dead?

Does anyone know? I know they can't be done, but is there some level of customer service that can still provide one-year contracts? The death of one-year contracts is pernicious and unfortunate, especially when corporate discounts so often put the one-year price at only 30 or so dollars over the two year.
tekhna said:
Does anyone know? I know they can't be done, but is there some level of customer service that can still provide one-year contracts? The death of one-year contracts is pernicious and unfortunate, especially when corporate discounts so often put the one-year price at only 30 or so dollars over the two year.
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sadly i think the one year contracts are done for, it is sad. i love verizon but our bill is far to expensive anymore. id move back to sprint to save some $$ but i cannot afford the eft's on two lines.
mighty_markus12 said:
sadly i think the one year contracts are done for, it is sad. i love verizon but our bill is far to expensive anymore. id move back to sprint to save some $$ but i cannot afford the eft's on two lines.
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I left Sprint when I realized that Verizon actually ended up costing the same, or less, for our 4 lines of service once Sprint added in their 10$/smartphone fee.
sprint was about $40-50 cheaper for me.
I could save a ton of money by switching to sprint, but their service is so bad around my area it is virtually unuseable.
jmorton10 said:
I could save a ton of money by switching to sprint, but their service is so bad around my area it is virtually unuseable.
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same here, that's why i left them last summer.
Alright, well that's great--Sprint sucks, but it's cheaper. Alas, one-year contracts with Sprint are dead too, so let us never discuss that wretched company again.
yeah one year contracts are dunzo, no way to get them at all.
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One year contracts, as far as equipment upgrades are concerned, are completely done. If a rep is gonna offer you equipment as a save option, it will come with a 2 year agreement or at full retail (there is also the Certified Pre Owned option, but that's another story and doesn't have a 1 year deal).
There are some save options, as far as Friends and Family for non-qualifying plan or bonus minutes/texts, that do require a 1 year agreement if you accept, but they are unrelated to equipment. Of course, it's been several months since I stopped working for VZW, so things may have changed.
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I could save a ton of money by switching to sprint, but their service is so bad around my area it is virtually unuseable.
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Exactly how I feel. I had the EVO4G with Sprint but did not want to go for another contract. It's true they offer unlimited data for a significantly cheaper cost than Verizon, but what's unlimited data worth if you can't use it? With Verizon, I am paying $30 more than I was paying to Sprint, but at least, I can play my music with MOG Music. I felt so frustrated with sprint because I was paying $10/month for my MOG subscription without being able to use it on Sprint Network.
Wendemixda said:
Exactly how I feel. I had the EVO4G with Sprint but did not want to go for another contract. It's true they offer unlimited data for a significantly cheaper cost than Verizon, but what's unlimited data worth if you can't use it? With Verizon, I am paying $30 more than I was paying to Sprint, but at least, I can play my music with MOG Music. I felt so frustrated with sprint because I was paying $10/month for my MOG subscription without being able to use it on Sprint Network.
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My biggest problem with sprint is the spectrum they use. Wimax is a joke indoors on a phone. Move 2 feet to the side and it would drop to 3g. What frequency are the building lte out on?
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tekhna said:
Does anyone know? I know they can't be done, but is there some level of customer service that can still provide one-year contracts? The death of one-year contracts is pernicious and unfortunate, especially when corporate discounts so often put the one-year price at only 30 or so dollars over the two year.
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I sent a letter directly to Mr. Mead voicing this exact thing. They stated that they removed 1-year contracts because no one actually used them. When the truth is that VZW's business model made reps always push you into a 2 year for the added commission.
It's really been downhill for VZW. First they got rid of Annual Online Upgrades, New Every Two, Unlimited Data, and then finally one year contracts. I've been planning to send out a few more emails to executives, maybe if we all voice our disappointment?
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I sent a letter directly to Mr. Mead voicing this exact thing. They stated that they removed 1-year contracts because no one actually used them. When the truth is that VZW's business model made reps always push you into a 2 year for the added commission.
It's really been downhill for VZW. First they got rid of Annual Online Upgrades, New Every Two, Unlimited Data, and then finally one year contracts. I've been planning to send out a few more emails to executives, maybe if we all voice our disappointment?
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if people didn't use them, people aren't very smart about their money. It's a no-brainer though if you've got most corporate discounts. And most people don't care about their phone that much to upgrade very year.
It's been downhill since the iPhone. Let's be clear about what caused the problem! I think it's probably too late for them to bring one-year contracts back, but I was wondering since they did promos like this http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/07/verizon-offers-1-year-contracts-to-out-of-contract-customers/ last summer when one-years were supposedly dead, if they'd do them again. But that was a while ago.
I'd rather just have a European pricing model where I pay for my phone outright and have a smaller monthly bill.
I actually move from ATT to VZ because of the Droid Inc and got it on a one year contract (paid $30 extra for the phone). It's almost been a year since my contract has expired and I don't want to upgrade because of the 2-year contract policy and also since phones are moving so fast, if I wait 6 months for a price drop like the rezound, everyone has already moved onto another phone. Lol.
Side Note: My wife is on the Eris and I'm thinking about getting a Rezound for her. Is it easy to root and flash a custom rom on it?
AT&T is the only I know that offered a 1 year contract, and was typically online only thru Premier. They kept making them harder to get.
I refuse to sign a 2 year contract based on how Verizon treated me in 2004. When you think about it, the ETF difference is virtually the different in phone price buying off contract. So you're paying for it one way or another. I will say I have found that on AT&T and Verizon, they treat you better if you DON'T have a contract. You can threaten to walk out that door immediately and mean it. That puts a lot more power back in the consumers' hands.

Tmobile Early Termination Fee

Is there a MINIMUM time you have to hold the contract for $200 ETF? I am now 22 months on vibrant and planning to upgrade to SG3 and trade in vibrant. Then break the contract in 2 months, effectievly paying 200+200-75 = $325 for new phone. Will this work
rakeshchn said:
Is there a MINIMUM time you have to hold the contract for $200 ETF? I am now 22 months on vibrant and planning to upgrade to SG3 and trade in vibrant. Then break the contract in 2 months, effectievly paying 200+200-75 = $325 for new phone. Will this work
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where's the -75 coming from? I believe it's 200-300 etf at around $10 month as you go, so in 2 months, you're at 20...no? Also, if you break it in 2 months, and they gave you a 600 dollar phone for 200, there's a very good chance they will want that phone back or charge you the discount...
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Altho, my gf did get tmo a while back, got a free HD7, canceled after abou 2 months, they charged her somewhere around 250-300 for etf, plus whatever monthly service, but they never asked for the phone, or bill her for it, so it's possible, but I think she got lucky, anyone could easily do that , never open the phone, sell it on ebay for 4-5 hundred (at the time) and pay the etf and pocket the rest...
According to this, which is a bit dated, http://wirelesscontractsinfo.blogspot.com/2010/09/t-mobiles-early-termination-fee.html?m=1 it seems like you are correct in your assumption.
I would simply call them. Don't tell them you are specifically scheming to find a way to get a phone cheaper and leaving their contact. Rather, be inquisitive to the details of the contract you will be signing with them to upgrade your equipment, and the repercussions you will face for breaking said contract if the circumstances arise.
They'll be nice and cover all bases with you. They have to, it's a contract, and by law they are required a full disclosure to you.
Last month, my cousin decided he wanted a new phone. He called them, and he was 2 months early for his upgrade. By the time he got off the phone, he got an early FULL upgrade, and 2 new Samsung Blaze 4g's for $100 each plus taxes and shipping.
So, in my opinion... T-mobile seems to be more than willing to help out their customers, and understand that their customers want new equipment.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2938
Looking at the link there is no mention of $10 per month etc, just a flat $200 for more that 180 days. Also how would Tmobile charge me more than what they would make me sign on the contract, even if phone is $600? Can someone else chime in?
And the $75 is the current trade in value for vibrant.
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Last month, my cousin decided he wanted a new phone. He called them, and he was 2 months early for his upgrade. By the time he got off the phone, he got an early FULL upgrade, and 2 new Samsung Blaze 4g's for $100 each plus taxes and shipping.
So, in my opinion... T-mobile seems to be more than willing to help out their customers, and understand that their customers want new equipment.
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Thanks for your reply! I am not trying to be a douche to Tmobile, I get the best plan and rate from them and add to that great 3G speeds here. But I have to leave US in Sep and dont want to miss the GS3
That might be new, it was always, every month your etf goes down by a few dollars as you get closer to end of contract...
The reason they could charge you is they are giving you the $600 dollar phone for 200 assuming you sign and fulfill your contract...they make their money charging you a lot more a month on a classic plan every month vs. the monthly 4g for example.
Classic Unlimited = $79 unltd talk/text/2Gigs web....and after all the regional/911/city taxes you HAVE to pay on a contract plan, that is close to $95 a month ...vs same exact service on Monthly 4g, is $60 a month, and all you pay is sales tax on that...
so if you cancel it a month later, they let you out, yes for 200 dollars etf + 200 for the phone , and you are free and clear with a $600 retail phone? If this is the case, sign me up. That's 200 savings plus 20/month on service x24
Are you leaving for good, or coming back? It's it like a vacation, or a few months and you'll be back? You can have them put your account on hold, like a parked state, while your gone. Then when you return they can turn it back on and resume your contract from where you left off. I've seen this done from time to time.
Just depends on your situation.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2938
Looking at the link there is no mention of $10 per month etc, just a flat $200 for more that 180 days. Also how would Tmobile charge me more than what they would make me sign on the contract, even if phone is $600? Can someone else chime in?
And the $75 is the current trade in value for vibrant.
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Don't trade the vibe in for $75, sell it outright or keep it. People are paying twice that on Craigslist.
What are you looking at shortbus......
Does the etf hurt your credit?
What are you looking at shortbus......
ETF doesn't hurt your credit. But don't pay it and ignore the bill, and it still definitely screw up your credit.
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Well it sounds like a no brainer, buy the s3 on contract, wait a couple of months and buy out. They can't ask for the device and an etf. I haven't read the fine print but its not a lease. I am going to check that out.
What are you looking at shortbus......

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