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This is an undervolt test version of my new StupidFast Kernel v1.2.3. This is a TEST release (NO VOODOO). This kernel aims to be fast, compatible, stable, and have good battery life. It is based on my StupidFast v1.0.36.
Code:
Changes since 1.2.2:
Fix for the 0.5-1.0 second pause/lag opening apps/drawer
Scheduling Tweaks
I/O Tweaks
Changes since 1.1.23:
Stock 1ghz @ 1225mV
Changes since 1.1.14:
Tweaked minfree settings
tweaked io scheduler
more compiler flags for cortex/hummingbird cpu
tweaked wifi scan interval to help with battery life
Changes since 1.0.36:
removed custom boot animation to trim size.
using kernel jhash3 instead of jhash2.
optimized compiler flags for the hummingbird cpu.
changed some kernel scheduling timings.
BLN disabled by default (configurable with [url=http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823922]this app[/url])
You will see that the custom boot animation was removed. It's okay. If you already have v1.0.36, 1.1.4 or 1.1.23 installed on your phone, the animation will stay. If you're new to my kernels with v1.2.3, your old boot animation will be there.
I'm not seeing any lag on the phone. Gallery opens pretty much instantly. Settings->Applications->Manage opens pretty much instantly. Launcher Pro+ pretty much instantly appears when the phone starts up.
Testers could NOT find any audio problems with this kernel using the media player in JT's Clean ROM. I've tested Youtube and Pandora and have had no audio issues. Also, we couldn't find any issues with USB mount/unmount, settings changes, etc.
As always, if you find a bug or what you think might be a bug, let me know. This is NOT the final stable release of the 1.2 kernel. Stay tuned to #samsung-fascinate on FreeNode or @geeknik on Twitter!
Download:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6088006/stupidfast-test-v1.2.3.zip
saps from #samsung-fascinate said that v1.0.36 was "far and away the fastest real world kernels I've ever seen, period"
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Thanks to saps, jt1134 my beta testers and the kind folks that donated cash to the cause! Keep fighting the good fight!
sweet. dowlloading now.
Downloading also.
I like your kernels, but I just noticed I am getting a super weird output in ADB when I try using that. I also have superdark ROM so it could be either one.
Ok, I just rebooted and checked again and all is running fine with 1.2.2 in recovery, but not in running android system, must mean its the rom.
Downloading now.. went with full full wipe with jts clean, and still getting popping, on asop player, double twist, pandora
Besides the battery life which is supposed to be increased, is there any other benefit to UV ???? Longer processor life, runs cooler, etc.
What are the drawbacks, if any ???? Does performance take a big hit, etc.
I'm asking more in general terms. Obviously I will observe first hand with this kernel, which I'm downloading now.
mexiken said:
Besides the battery life which is supposed to be increased I assume, is there any other benefit to UV ???? Longer processor life, runs cooler, etc.
What are the drawbacks, if any ???? Does performance take a big hit, etc.
I'm asking more in general terms. Obviously I will observe first hand with this kernel, which I'm downloading now.
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In theory, as I know computer not cell phone, UV will allow it to run cooler, which does mean last longer (but is that really a problem?) and use less juice while still being as fast as before. If it runs stable you will not see a performance hit and it will better with the battery. It will just freeze your phone if its too low and requires more juice, really no harm can be done, overvolting is more dangerous as that burns up cpus, but you overvolt to make the higher frequency stable. Simple overclocking principals apply, you want the lowest voltage for your cpu frequency.
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Downloading now.. went with full full wipe with jts clean, and still getting popping, on asop player, double twist, pandora
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are you upping the CPU to 200mhz to run those? I am doing that and its just fine, although I never had a popping problem at 100mhz either. I just set the min to 200 because that cleans up a little bit of the lag too.
Possibly related, every once and a while my phone will just decide to press a soft key on its own, what is that? (that causes a slight skip in the music when I am playing it)
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are you upping the CPU to 200mhz to run those? I am doing that and its just fine, although I never had a popping problem at 100mhz either. I just set the min to 200 because that cleans up a little bit of the lag too.
Possibly related, every once and a while my phone will just decide to press a soft key on its own, what is that? (that causes a slight skip in the music when I am playing it)
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see if listening to it while hooked to power recreates the problem... i noticed for me atleast its only when plugged in...
I have it up to USB and its not skipping or popping right now, I am also using mixzing
v1.2.2 is the least fastest of all the geeknik kernels for me. There is 1 almost 2 second pause loading and exiting apps unless it was already in memory.
Still faster then everyone elses kernel. And so far battery life looks to be way better on this one but I haven't had it long enough to say for sure.
Nothing has changed on my audio popping issues so I am still using SetCPU at 200min still. I am short 6 hours of battery life like this by my best guestimate... which isn't a big concern for me- just reporting for those who need to make it thru a day without a charger nearby.
Never had any FC's with USB.
Touchwiz/JT's Super Clean ROM
And a thank you to geeknik for all your efforts! love how your pumping these out!
Kernal runs great! No unwanted sounds from the stock music player in jt's rom. USB works just fine. Thanks for your hard work!
are you using setcpu? if so that helped me fix it bumping min to 200... any one else having the problem might try that...
Interestingly enough, this kernel does seem a touch slower than the 1.2.23 regular voltage kernel. Hangs just the slightest bit when firing up and exiting dolphin browser and xda app. Still, appears to be MUCH better with battery life, as the previous geeknik kernels were ravaging my battery.
Definite progress but not quite perfect imho. Still thanks for all your work geeknik, you're killing it with these.
Also fyi, running custom blackhole, with sns and lp
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This kernel is running fairly smooth, like the other 2. I can deal with the extra 0.5 second delay when first opening an app, as long as BLN is optional and battery life is extended. Thank you very much for taking the time to come up with these kernels for us. Other kernel providers tend to make their products less accessible for us XDA users, but you take the stress out of the search. Thank you again.
Thank you very much for taking the time to come up with these kernels for us. Other kernel providers tend to make their products less accessible for us XDA users said:
This is because these development forums are filled with junk threads, nobody taking the time to read a Lil bit. Its getting worse and devs leave because of it. Not the devs fault at all. Just a point to make: )
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Can someone explain how to get bln. I saw a post about it but can't find it or I'm over looking it like an idiot
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Can someone explain how to get bln. I saw a post about it but can't find it or I'm over looking it like an idiot
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Re-read the first post of this thread, there's a link to how to enable/disable bln
The uv kernel is a winner of course. I test these kernels for geeknik before he throws them up for the masses. Not just running quadrant [although I do that too] but going thru the real phone stuff itself. The manage applications load, replacing new dock shortcuts, gallery, apps and stuff everything we actually want to see improve with.
I for one never had battery issues with previous stupidfast kernels but I know some did, same this music crackling. It seems to me most of you that do are either running blackhold or deodexed rom though and quite humbly I'd look their for your culprit moreso than the kernel. If there was a music skipping issue from the kernel itself it would manifest itself across the boards but it doesnt.
Anyway, battery life is going to be stellar trust me, under light-moderate use Im only using like 2% per hour here swyping 8-10 texts per hour here, very good indeed
Hey Saps- I see ya on all the forums and your contributions have really helped me out...
That being said I keep seeing an overlook of real world usage in these testings. Can you guys test beyond stock apps? I mean checking stock should be the first thing you do obviously but how many people use the stock music player or the stock browser, etc? I am betting most the people that have the knowledge enough to test these kernels and ROMs aren't using stock functionality and apps.
Please test this kernel with the PowerAMP or Music PlayerPro music apps before writing off the issue.
Use Dolphin to check the internet, etc. Use K-9 to check email, etc.. ya know- use the popular apps during testing also if you could?
Audio cracking, FC's with the USB settings, and I even heard mention of live wallpapers having issues. These reports coming from 3 reported different ROMs.
How are you missing this?
I myself have had great success with battery life on the Stupid Fast kernels. Better then stock kernel for sure. But I've been having to run my battery faster by using my workaround to avoid the music crackling.
JT's Super Clean ROM using TouchWiz
Just suggestions so we can all get on the same page and enjoy these badass mods.
P.S. What ROM are you using during testing of this kernel? I'll gladly switch to fix the issues
Hi,
Does anyone have any kind of summary of the available kernel options for the SGS2?
I've been running mostly stock firmware, though
a) using the cf-root kernel (for titanium backup and wifi adhoc)
b) Updating via odin & using frankenstein firmware
For now I'm planning to stick with the stock rom as performance and battery life is good, as is software compatability - no messing, most things work.
Though I am intrigued by the other kernels that are floating around especially with respect to power saving. Compatability/currency is critical - other features are secondary. This includes gpu acceleration and the likes all working properly.
I mostly leave some sync active along with push apps so ridiculous standby, but only with all comms down isn't interesting. I don't have a power issue though as can get 12-17 hours usage on stock.
I like the idea of BLN but worry it's going to hit power too much due to wakeups. Just maybe it might be handy if it can be figured for infrequent notification
Are there a particular subset of kernels worth looking at? Trying to cut down the problem space for all of the kernels.
Someone mentioned "siyah" as a good one?
I'm on KI8 now, probably moving to KJ2. root is a given?
Or maybe I'm too conservative - are there current, close to stock roms that I'm silly in ignoring?
planetf1 said:
Hi,
Does anyone have any kind of summary of the available kernel options for the SGS2?
I've been running mostly stock firmware, though
a) using the cf-root kernel (for titanium backup and wifi adhoc)
b) Updating via odin & using frankenstein firmware
For now I'm planning to stick with the stock rom as performance and battery life is good, as is software compatability - no messing, most things work.
Though I am intrigued by the other kernels that are floating around especially with respect to power saving. Compatability/currency is critical - other features are secondary. This includes gpu acceleration and the likes all working properly.
I mostly leave some sync active along with push apps so ridiculous standby, but only with all comms down isn't interesting. I don't have a power issue though as can get 12-17 hours usage on stock.
I like the idea of BLN but worry it's going to hit power too much due to wakeups. Just maybe it might be handy if it can be figured for infrequent notification
Are there a particular subset of kernels worth looking at? Trying to cut down the problem space for all of the kernels.
Someone mentioned "siyah" as a good one?
I'm on KI8 now, probably moving to KJ2. root is a given?
Or maybe I'm too conservative - are there current, close to stock roms that I'm silly in ignoring?
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Not being funny mate but by the time you wait for someone to reply to you, you can actually take the time and search first in this forum to see if anyone else has answered your question....Loads of threads around to see which kernel is the best...Or even actually take the time to go into the Original dev section and read about each kernel that is available there....so next time before you open a thread please press the nice search button and read
anyway go for either 3 tops kernels ninp, speedmod or siyah..
The amount of info seemed overwhelming.
I ended up going with speedmod 2-12
Siyah was also on my shortlist
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Hi there,
probably that request would make more sense in the developer forum but i didnt post enough yet
Actually i get insane battery batterylife with the bali 1.8.8 UV version, therefore i tried the non UV version with even more lowerd voltages via set cpu. it was stable but drained a lot faster. don´t know why.
so my request would be "pre-undervolted" bali kernels that might have even longer batteryliftime. Any hints on that? Someone who is able to compile something like this?
Best regards,
vibrantoparanto (from germany)
Hint' Bali X+Voltage control app= win !!!
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^^ that is your answer....currently what im using
bali-x is what i used before - i lowered the voltages up to -150mv with some frequencies but it still gave me only about half the battery lifetime (less than 24 hours with moderate use) then i get with bali uv. What did you use to manually undervolt and how is your battery lifetime?
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bali-x is what i used before - i lowered the voltages up to -150mv with some frequencies but it still gave me only about half the battery lifetime (less than 24 hours with moderate use) then i get with bali uv. What did you use to manually undervolt and how is your battery lifetime?
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i hate to burst your bubble, but youre chasing a ghost. uv'ing will not produce very noticeable changes to your battery life, especially if were are talking baout different versions of the same kernel.
take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21024393&postcount=8
Cannot agree with that. I tried *a lot* and flashed different roms and kernels for years now. With stock kernels i get up to two days standby with low/moderate use, with bali UV i get almost three days. I have no idead why, but at least the standby time differs dramatically between kernels. At least thats for sure - under load that might be another thing. But probably you´re right and its just a "good standby behaviour" which would hardly benefit from lowered voltages. Would be still interesting to try a hardcore UV kernel
TopShelf, it is funny that you posted that note/post b/c I was just getting ready to PM you that I put part of it in my guide like I mentioned a week or so ago and the apps too.
Take a look at the Guide and maybe you will find some answers to your questions.
If you want to UV to the max, then you will have to test that yourself b/c every Vibrant reacts differently to OC/UV. Step it down -25v each day (don't set on boot until you know they work) and see where it freezes. There are OC/UV examples in the guide but beware, they are both for MIUI kernels.
Is there probably any admin out there who understands what i talk about and can move that thread to the developer forum?
this thread belongs here, you posted in the right section. posting in development will not get you answers from developers, it will only get you yelled at by hall monitors.
it is a common misconception that "developers" ONLY visit the "development" section. this is far from the truth.
sorry to say, the reason you have not gotten answers isnt because you posted in the wrong section, but because requests like these are pretty much never honored. the reason is because if a developer decides to make a slight alteration to a ROM/kernel for a member, he will then get BOMBARDED by dozens of other members who have tiny little tweaks that they would like in their ROM/kernel
Still trying to bring back some life to my request with this argument: I just checked my girlfriends device (using zendroid 2.1.2 with bali 1.8.8uv) and couldnt believe it: 3 days and 14 hours since unplugged with 8% left. The battery is a stock 1500mHa. And as its my girlfriends phone its definity not "overtweaked and calibrated". Personally i care much more about standby time than super heavy usage (guess that should be fine then too).
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Still trying to bring back some life to my request with this argument: I just checked my girlfriends device (using zendroid 2.1.2 with bali 1.8.8uv) and couldnt believe it: 3 days and 14 hours since unplugged with 8% left. The battery is a stock 1500mHa. And as its my girlfriends phone its definity not "overtweaked and calibrated". Personally i care much more about standby time than super heavy usage (guess that should be fine then too).
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Since you didn't like the answer you got, for clarification purposes you are basically asking for a dev to use their time for FREE an modified/debug/test a kernel with your requirements just for your own sake ?
i wanted to point out that this is a very interesting kernel with great battery lifetime. if you have a look at all the other threads of people desperatly trying to get 24h of battery then you probably wouldnt consider this request as "wasting free time of others for my own sake".
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i wanted to point out that this is a very interesting kernel with great battery lifetime. if you have a look at all the other threads of people desperatly trying to get 24h of battery then you probably wouldnt consider this request as "wasting free time of others for my own sake".
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i can prove to you that UVing does not make that much of a difference. if youre willing to learn, try this little experiment:
-UV your phone using your current settings
-put your phone in airplane mode
-turn it off
-charge it to 100% while its off
-after it boots up, leave it in airplane mode and immediately lock the screen
-let your phone sit idle in airplane mode from full charge to death (record the time)
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Once youve done this, repeat all of the above steps but with STOCK VOLTAGE. record the time.
now compare the two times. i would be willing to bet a large sum of money that it is not a notable difference, if any.
my point is instead of trying to convince yourself that your theory of UVing is correct, why not do a TRUE battery life test, and simply find out for yourself. you cannot run true battery tests while you are actually using your phone becuase phone usage is massively different on a day to day basis, even if you dont think it is, it is. there is background data, text messages/calls, notifications, etc. (which is why i said to put it in airplane mode, that way its just sitting there, with little to no variables)
i guarantee you that you are putting way too much thought into voltage settings. they do not help as much as people want them to. dont say im wrong until you actually try what i said above. although youre probably nto going to.
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Still trying to bring back some life to my request with this argument: I just checked my girlfriends device (using zendroid 2.1.2 with bali 1.8.8uv) and couldnt believe it: 3 days and 14 hours since unplugged with 8% left. The battery is a stock 1500mHa. And as its my girlfriends phone its definity not "overtweaked and calibrated". Personally i care much more about standby time than super heavy usage (guess that should be fine then too).
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sorry, but this does not prove anything. what are you comparing it to? your phone? you cant compare her battery life to your own unless you guys have the same exact setup, same exact apps, and same exact usage habits, etc.
you are not going about this battery things the right way. you NEED to be willing to learn more instead of trying to come up with your own reasons in your own head as to why your battery gets a specific lifespan. If getting THAT MUCH more battery life was as easy as UVing your phone, dont you think the manufacturers would incorporate that and use that as a marketing strategy?? "New from Samsung, the Galaxy S III!!! This will revolutionize the mobile industry, curing the battery woes across that smartphone world...now with lower voltage for drastically improved battery life!! Pick yours up today!!"
It's not that easy, you need to read up on what affects battery life.
thank you for your thoughts topshelf, but as i posted earlier i am on that topic for years now and i really tested a lot. not as scientific as running phone on idle with different frequenzies but trust me: I know a whole lot about this topic. Also i share your thought that the voltage is not that important in the end. On the other hand i have to say you guys are quite ignorant about my observations i did earlier:
1. The bali-x kernel with manual undervolting provides (provable) worse battery lifetime than
2. the 1.8.8uv kernel.
Conclusion: As you say it is not that much about the voltage but about the way the kernels work as a whole. On the other hand it would be *very* interesting if the insane battery lifetime of bali uv could be even further improved. And no i wont put my phone to sleep for days in order to do scientific test (whoever is willing to i will donate - battery lifetime almost like astrology)
Last but not least: It is true that different roms provide significantly different battery lifetimes - for whatever reason. Some roms turn your phone into a handwarmer, others give you almost the standby times you were used from the non-smarthpones. And i think even the big companies have a hard time to write device specific code that is highly optimized - i mean you still get new devices with gingerbread instead of ics and so on. conclusion: on the software side *is* much room for improvement if it comes to battery lifetime on most devices.
just my 2 cents
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i wanted to point out that this is a very interesting kernel with great battery lifetime. if you have a look at all the other threads of people desperatly trying to get 24h of battery then you probably wouldnt consider this request as "wasting free time of others for my own sake".
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Look at your post, you and "others" are asking for some one to do research and development on their free time and for free ? little selfish on you.
Look at all the kernels thread in the development section and read thru all the comments, I bet there is far more people whining and complaining about this and that, than providing actually constructive and monetary feedback to the developers.
Its not as easy as it seams, ecotox already tried this before with his ultra low power kernels and some reported great succes while others couldnt even boot, it goes down to the quality of the silicon on each particular phone. no dev has the time/money to develop such request considering all the different variables involved.
lastly if you are so fond on this idea, why dont you take the initiative and learn to compile and patch and make your own kernel ?
Diff phone but a good simple guide to read:
http://arighi.blogspot.com/2011/08/howto-custom-kernel-on-samsung-galaxy-s.html
basic read:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5529470/how-to-compile-linux-kernel-for-real-android-phone
basic read:
http://igottadroid.com/wordpress/?p=61
For latest source:
http://opensource.samsung.com
"Be the change you want to see in the world." Mohandas Gandhi
Simple: If you want to change the world, start with yourself.
I'll read those links. Thanks for the info.
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And no i wont put my phone to sleep for days in order to do scientific test (whoever is willing to i will donate - battery lifetime almost like astrology)
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im not trying to pick on you, but this sarcastic response shows your overall attitude that jrafael is trying to make you realize. you want somebody to take time out of their day/night to do something for you...yet you arent even willing to let for phone sit for a day in order to learn a thing or two...letting your phone sit doesnt even take any effort, compiling a kernel takes a lot more effort than that
i hate to say it, but why should someone help you, if you dont want to help yourself.
thank you jrafael for the links - thats a great read.
@topshelf: still think you overreact here. For one who has developed it and has the workflow it is a matter of a few minutes - and no one is forced to do anything unless he thinks its might be worth it - maybe its inspiring? i am just asking. not everything idea must be done by the one who thinks about it. and the quote about battery life is true i would say - we are really lacking valueable info on battery drain with different setups.
As I said, I'm a noob when it comes to not the Galaxy Note but also the Android Operating system. Before switching to Android in April, I was stuck on iOS (iPhone 4) for more than 2 years; before that was the good old Symbian OS on a Nokia N95 8 GB. So far, since making the switch, the experience has been great. Themes, ringtones, tons of customization are just some of the things that are easily possible with "jailbreaking" on my former device.
That being said, I'm still adjusting to my new phone even after 3 months. Thats why I'm starting this thread; I need help on a few questions. So, here it goes (I did search for a lot of these, but no solid solutions) -
1. One of the great things about my old phone was the battery life. Even after using the phone's music function, checking facebook/emails/news/weather every now and then, I would still have around 60%~80% juice left after an 8~10 hour shift at work. None of that on the Note. Just having the 4G running leaves me with around 40%~50% juice after work, with no hard usage like going on the web, or using my phone as a music player. How come? I understand that most of the juice is used by the big-ass display; but there is a still a huge consumption even when the display is not turned on at all. I recently came across a term called deep sleep on the forum; I'm not sure if my phone goes to that or not. How do I check (keep in mind that I'm a noob; I installed CPU Spy, Battery Spy and BetterBatteryStats, but what am I looking for. I'll include a pic from all these apps)? Basically, how do I increase battery life?
2. Charging/Data cables - I dont understand this.. I have included a picture of 3 cables. The 1st one of my brother's from an old HTC phone. This is the only cable I can use to transfer date to and from my phone; that too with a lot care because if I move my phone around, the connection gets lost and I cant even charge my phone unless I unplug the cable, put my phone in a stationary position and replug the cable. The 2nd one is the cable I use to charge my phone. I cant use it to transfer data (I guess because of the little head converter); again, with this cable I cant move my phone around. I have to keep the phone screen-up for it to charge; cant pick it up or move it around or no charge. The 3rd cable is useless. It came with a pair of bluetooth head set. I cant transfer data, nor charge my phone. On some cables, my phone shows its charging; but it either charges very very slow, or shows its at a 100%, but as soon as I take the cable out, the % goes down to 60~85. The phone seems to charge fine on a car charger I have (not a USB car charger, this one has no removable parts). I think it might be the USB port on my phone, but not sure.
3. The 4th picture is of the Go Task Manager widget. Currently its showing 239 MB of RAM free. I closed Battery Spy, and it came down to around 300~325 MB free. Does Go Launcher take a lot of memory? How can I free more RAM? Didnt the Galaxy Note have 1 GB of RAM; what happened to the remaining 305 MB of RAM?
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
5. Flashing the phone with a custom ROM voids the warranty, right? Does the "flashing counter" thing work (I read somewhere that there's an easy way of flashing the counter in Recovery to 0)? I included a pic of a crack thats on my screen (long story short, I dropped my phone screen down on a rock). I'm about to send it to AT&T (since I have insurance from them) for the screen (hopefully they'll send me a new one, which will fix the whole charging/data transfer problem too). Will they check the counter too? Should I flash the counter? I have to pay $200 for a claim, be it water damage, accidental damage, theft, loss, etc; if they do check the counter, should the just drop the **** out of the phone so it dosnt work at all?
Long read, I know. Just wanted to cram in as much information as possible so that I can get answers as soon as possible. Any and all answers will be appreciated. Thanks a lot for taking the time to read through the whole thread and replying (if you do).
Ways to increase battery life:
- I hear using wifi as much as possible instead of data is a huge improvement as well as turning off auto sync and you can turn wifi off when the display is off. Also the typical of having it on a low brightness, finding out if you have any rogue apps that are causing more drain than they should. The last resort is to get either multiple batteries or an extended one with a different back case. Aside from those things, you are only going to get so much on time display from the note. I get on average 3.5 hours and can push my phone to about 22 hours from 100%. Milestone 6 Rom, KingKangKernel 5
About the cables:
- Buy a new usb cable. If you ever intend on modifying your phone or even transferring any time of data, you are going to NEED to have a secure and trustworthy connection. And by a new wall adapter. (most phone cables come with the little adapter head for outlets so just make sure it comes included). Pop it off for computer use, and pop it on for wall use. There are a ton of threads about those in the accessories section so you may want to give that a peek. They also have info there about possible substitution batteries.
Ram:
-I don't understand this too much because haha I suck with some techy stuff. But I believe that touchwiz uses a lot of the ram (could be completely wrong) But, I know that a lot of those apps that you are never going to use AT&T(insert name here) apparently constantly are using power and resources. I used to try to clear the ram all the time and it never really went down. Haha sorry I can't help more with this part.
Roms:
- Milestone 6 with KingKangKernel5 ALL THE WAY!!! I would be willing to walk you through the process step-by-step with all the files and such that you would need if you'd like. Other than that, you need to have an idea of what you want before going to the development side of things. Do you want Touchwiz, OC, UV, BLN (YOU WANT BLN lmao), miui, cm9, cm10 (haha), aokp, aosp, aocp, a stock feel, customization out the ying yang. Decide all this stuff and then your choices will narrow drastically to about two or three. From there, it is easy to experiment and possibly decide you had your requirements all wrong and start the process from the beginning haha.
Warranty:
- Get your next insurance claim through BB (best buy). Their black tie protection covers anything as many times as you want without that 200 dollar fee (might as well get a new phone at that ridiculous price!!!) for only ten dollars a month. : D
-Don't know how AT&T does their insurance stuff but I feel if your issues are physical (scratch/ port) that they have no reason to deny you a claim even if there is proof of modification because rooting doesn't crack your screen or break your port. Hahaha, but they can be uptight so I would suggest possibly getting the claim first and then delving into the developmental side of things. There is an odin flashable zip to bring your counter back to 0. I have never tried it personally but many people have had a ton of success with it so I would suggest checking out that thread and just reading carefully what other people do so that you do not make a mistake with anything.
Hope this helps. Hahahahaha, sorry it's so long.
Custom roms improve batt life greatly because on a stock phone u have tons of apps running in the background if u root and flash a rom u can freeze all of them that u want plus now we can over clock our kernels to make r note fly as far as the rom for u ....well u just have to try them diff strokes for diff folks lol i use cm9 roms alot u got to remember ur note has a huge screen so its gonna pull more batt...i also use jucie defender ultimite ...bigjoe has a super everything thread for this phone u can find all ur answers there
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1. Battery life varies strongly with usage, in CPUSpy each bar represents how much time the phone processor has spent at each speed. The more time spent at lower speeds the better for your battery life.
If you scroll to the bottom of the list the lowest speed should either be: 384 MHz or Deep Sleep
The phone only enters Deep Sleep if the phone screen is off, and no apps are calling for CPU time. This speed saves the most battery. Rogue apps could be preventing your phone from sleeping. BetterBatteryStats is a tool to help you discover these apps and either: change your usage patterns or uninstall them.
Check CPUSpy first. If Deep Sleep is not at the bottom, or its bar is relatively small then check BetterBatteryStats for the rogue app.
However even if it's in Deep Sleep if you get around the city a lot during the day the phone will be switching radio towers often, switching uses quite a bit of battery. If you stay in a single place for a while you should be able to leave it on a desk for 8 hours and find that you have lost none or almost no battery at all (Such as at night when you are sleeping).
This is a "4G" phone, carrier coverage is spotty and if you are in an area with bad reception or poor coverage, your phone's radio must switch to a higher power level to maintain a connection with the cell tower thus using more battery. 4G towers are more sparse, and therefore 4G has worse coverage compared to your previous phones.
2. You should be using the cable included with your phone. Charging cables obviously will not carry data. But data cables will do both, get yourself a good cable.
3. Don't worry about ram at all. Android has one of the finest ram management systems out there. The phone has 1 GB of ram, 200-300 MB is reserved for the kernel and kernel processes. Therefore you actually have around 700MB, the phone uses the remaining space to caches apps and other required data so that your experience is more fluid and "Lag-free". Not to mention the ram background services and apps are using. Which brings me back to my original point. Don't worry about it, fiddling with it could ruin your experience with the device and use more battery. Don't use apps to clear it, Google has already stated that this doesn't do much.
4. The original rom is your best bet if you want all of the features of the phone. Cyanogenmod is your second choice, Cyanogenmod does not have S-pen support and some of the services provided from Samsung. Cyanogenmod is very lightweight and is the most popular choice among all android devices.
Nightly-Built means that the rom is basically updated every night, so that you can receive the latest features and improvements. You can check every day and there will be a new update for your phone with the latest additions and fixes. However not all nightly builds are stable, but they are reliable at the moment.
5. The counter only counts when you use ODIN to flash bootloaders and kernels I believe. When most of us say "flashing" we mean flashing through ClockWorkMod or CWM for short. CWM does not advance the counter I believe. There are no reports of anyone being denied warranty because of the counter. Do not flash the counter reset, this does count as a "flash" and it is still detectable by AT&T.
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As I said, I'm a noob when it comes to not the Galaxy Note but also the Android Operating system. Before switching to Android in April, I was stuck on iOS (iPhone 4) for more than 2 years; before that was the good old Symbian OS on a Nokia N95 8 GB. So far, since making the switch, the experience has been great. Themes, ringtones, tons of customization are just some of the things that are easily possible with "jailbreaking" on my former device.
That being said, I'm still adjusting to my new phone even after 3 months. Thats why I'm starting this thread; I need help on a few questions. So, here it goes (I did search for a lot of these, but no solid solutions) -
1. One of the great things about my old phone was the battery life. Even after using the phone's music function, checking facebook/emails/news/weather every now and then, I would still have around 60%~80% juice left after an 8~10 hour shift at work. None of that on the Note. Just having the 4G running leaves me with around 40%~50% juice after work, with no hard usage like going on the web, or using my phone as a music player. How come? I understand that most of the juice is used by the big-ass display; but there is a still a huge consumption even when the display is not turned on at all. I recently came across a term called deep sleep on the forum; I'm not sure if my phone goes to that or not. How do I check (keep in mind that I'm a noob; I installed CPU Spy, Battery Spy and BetterBatteryStats, but what am I looking for. I'll include a pic from all these apps)? Basically, how do I increase battery life?
To increase battery life you can do a few things. Obviously, use as low brightness as you can stand using, and also try to use wallpapers with lots of black, as black pixels do not draw any power on amoled displays. Next, from your CPU spy pic it looks like a rogue may be holding your device in partial wake lock, as your 384 MHz stage has twice the time of your deep sleep stage. Uninstall any apps you dont need, like benchmarks and other one time use apps like that. Also, if you have stuff constantly syncing, that will drain battery with the screen off too. If you need push email, leave sync on, but change the sync settings of less essential apps to manual sync only, so your phone only syncs those when you use the app. Along with the syncing, if you are in an lte area, data usage will eat much more battery than the iphone for the same data usage. Lastly, if you have crappy cell service, that will also contribute to faster drain.
2. Charging/Data cables - I dont understand this.. I have included a picture of 3 cables. The 1st one of my brother's from an old HTC phone. This is the only cable I can use to transfer date to and from my phone; that too with a lot care because if I move my phone around, the connection gets lost and I cant even charge my phone unless I unplug the cable, put my phone in a stationary position and replug the cable. The 2nd one is the cable I use to charge my phone. I cant use it to transfer data (I guess because of the little head converter); again, with this cable I cant move my phone around. I have to keep the phone screen-up for it to charge; cant pick it up or move it around or no charge. The 3rd cable is useless. It came with a pair of bluetooth head set. I cant transfer data, nor charge my phone. On some cables, my phone shows its charging; but it either charges very very slow, or shows its at a 100%, but as soon as I take the cable out, the % goes down to 60~85. The phone seems to charge fine on a car charger I have (not a USB car charger, this one has no removable parts). I think it might be the USB port on my phone, but not sure.
Buy the stock Samsung wall charger/cable. It will do wonders for you. Solid connection, full speed charging, and data transfer.
3. The 4th picture is of the Go Task Manager widget. Currently its showing 239 MB of RAM free. I closed Battery Spy, and it came down to around 300~325 MB free. Does Go Launcher take a lot of memory? How can I free more RAM? Didnt the Galaxy Note have 1 GB of RAM; what happened to the remaining 305 MB of RAM?
Don't worry about ram usage, android as an os manages it just fine by itself. No need to constantly kill apps or use task killers other than the stock one if you absolutely need to kill something. Constantly killing apps/clearing ram can actually decrease your battery life as well, as constantly killing and restarting apps uses far more resources than leaving them running. Also, if you're constantly killing apps that have push syncing or interval syncing, they will just restart anyways, essentially just killing battery every time you clear ram. Lastly, use as few Widgets as possible. They are nice and pretty, but unless you need them they're just another service that is running, and will slow down your launcher performance if you have too many.
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
Remember, there's no rush, and no "best rom", so just take your time reading how to flash each rom, and try each one out that looks appealing to you. Nobody can tell you what will suit you best, and since all of the roms are great around here, you really can't go wrong trying any of them until you find what fits you best. Custom roms are totally worth it, as they have all of the fat trimmed and are really fun to play with. Be careful though, you may find yourself developing an addiction after you get the hang of things. =].
5. Flashing the phone with a custom ROM voids the warranty, right? Does the "flashing counter" thing work (I read somewhere that there's an easy way of flashing the counter in Recovery to 0)? I included a pic of a crack thats on my screen (long story short, I dropped my phone screen down on a rock). I'm about to send it to AT&T (since I have insurance from them) for the screen (hopefully they'll send me a new one, which will fix the whole charging/data transfer problem too). Will they check the counter too? Should I flash the counter? I have to pay $200 for a claim, be it water damage, accidental damage, theft, loss, etc; if they do check the counter, should the just drop the **** out of the phone so it dosnt work at all?
Yes, flashing roms does void your warranty but only temporarily. You can set it back to stock firmware again and be just fine returning or replacing it. People have also returned their phones with the counter tripped, as it seems that as of right now, neither att or Samsung cares about it. Have you flashed anything yet? If not, get your phone replaced before you do just to be sure, then when you get your new one back, you can have already read and downloaded everything you need to root and rom it as soon as you get it back. =].
Long read, I know. Just wanted to cram in as much information as possible so that I can get answers as soon as possible. Any and all answers will be appreciated. Thanks a lot for taking the time to read through the whole thread and replying (if you do).
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3. The 4th picture is of the Go Task Manager widget. Currently its showing 239 MB of RAM free. I closed Battery Spy, and it came down to around 300~325 MB free. Does Go Launcher take a lot of memory? How can I free more RAM? Didnt the Galaxy Note have 1 GB of RAM; what happened to the remaining 305 MB of RAM?
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
5. Flashing the phone with a custom ROM voids the warranty, right? Does the "flashing counter" thing work (I read somewhere that there's an easy way of flashing the counter in Recovery to 0)? I included a pic of a crack thats on my screen (long story short, I dropped my phone screen down on a rock). I'm about to send it to AT&T (since I have insurance from them) for the screen (hopefully they'll send me a new one, which will fix the whole charging/data transfer problem too). Will they check the counter too? Should I flash the counter? I have to pay $200 for a claim, be it water damage, accidental damage, theft, loss, etc; if they do check the counter, should the just drop the **** out of the phone so it dosnt work at all?
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Ok first keep in mind I came to android with almost the same background as you and about the same time.
Question 3: anything with Go in the name I have seen huge team usage... also custom Roms will be a great thing for your ram you will see big changes if you go with anything like AOKP AOSP or AOCP. These are as close to basic unmodified android as you will find with little to no extras.
4: cyanogen mods are good in my opinion, nightly builds are not finals they are updated nightly... as for a Rom I tried a few and have found my favorite is the collective builds.they just came out with the AOCP (newly updated coming soon) and there is one member of the team that likes ultra slim builds and he slims them down to the bear bones. When ready to flash give them a shot.
5: flashing will void warranty, with that said so did the crack you have. This counts as physical damage. So insurance is the best option. I do agree best buy ins is great but as you have att ins might as well use it. With a crack screen I think you will get a different device to fix charge port but will most likely get refurb phone. I would root and flash with this one so you can do it and IF anything goes wrong you need an instant replacement any way and your not out anything
Other 2 questions I didn't feel I was the one to answer nor am I a expert on any of this, just the info I have
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Battery life isn't the greatest on the Note, but it's acceptable. If you use it a lot, the battery will drain. You can try using a different CPU governor (lulzactive, smartassv2, etc. in custom kernels) to improve battery life or just use powersave (which decreases performance but improves battery life). You also have to account for the huge screen which is OLED, not LCD. With an LCD (like the iPhone 4 has) there is an array of white LED's that illuminate the screen. There's probably 8 or so of them. The LCD glass is a color filter which colors the white light from the backlight. The LCD itself uses little power, and the LED backlight only has 8 or so LED's. The Note uses an AMOLED screen (Active-Matrix Organic LED) in which each individual pixel is four independent LED's (RGBG). They're small LED's and use little power on their own, but you have 1280x800x4 of them (well, not quite due to the pentile arrangement staggering pixels). When they're all on (white screens) it uses a lot of power, especially when brightness is up. On the plus side, when they're all off (dark screens) they use much less power. To save power on an AMOLED, use a darker background/theme.
As for RAM usage, the Note has 1GB and you really don't need to worry about checking it. Android manages RAM very well, especially when it has 1GB to work with. When you leave an app in Android it isn't closed, merely pushed back in an application stack. Only when Android determines that RAM is filling up does it start removing stale apps from this stack.
Personally I've used my Note with many different cables without issue. The included Samsung charger and cable work very well, and I think has the most solid connection of all of them, but I've had success with a cord from my Archos media player as well as my HP TouchPad tablet. The TouchPad's wall charger also gives a slight charging boost as it provides more power (2A vs. 1A) but the Note's highest charge rate is around 1.1A so you don't see a huge difference. It does need a bit more than a standard 500mA USB port provides, so if you plan to charge it off your PC or a 500mA charger, you need to turn off the screen and leave it off, otherwise the screen will eat up the power, leaving none for the battery.
My favorite ROM is CyanogenMod 9. This is a built-from-scratch (Google's source + modifications) ROM that includes a lot of nice features while retaining the stock Android look and feel. I personally do not like TouchWiz or the customizations that Samsung added to their Note ROMs but many people do. It's all about personal preference. A nightly build means that a new release of the ROM is posted (usually by an automated system) every night. This is what CyanogenMod uses for most devices, as their project has many developers and is constantly updating. You don't need to update every day, but a nightly ROM means that you always have access to the latest updates if you want them.
As for the flash counter, I would warranty the phone before flashing a custom ROM. I generally don't take warranty into account on my tech purchases because with all the hacking I do it's often void, but usually if you restore the stock firmware they will fix hardware issues obviously not caused by your ROM flashing..
Thank you all for the quick replies.
Regarding the cable, I've come across this on amazon - /gp/product/B007JZGO6S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=AR2TEZS0WRV7S
Good to buy?
@Ph0n3D0rk - Thank you. Due to the short battery life I've been experiencing, I always use my phone on brightness all the way down with "Automatic Brightness" option turned off. I only have 200 MB per month data, so wifi's the only way to go . I've been looking into extra (or extended batteries); maybe soon. I read into Milestone 6; seems pretty interesting. I might give it a go (maybe when I get the replacement). I'll private message you about it.
@JB calhoun - Thank you. I've started looking into different kinds of ROMs. Is it possible to try out 2 different types or ROMs at the same time? What I mean is that say if I install CM9, then I want to try Milestone 6; will I have to remove CM9 to try Milestone 6? Also, does installing a new ROM every time (almost all instructions say to do a "Wipe data/factory reset") means all my data (on the phone ofcourse and not on the SD card) will be lost? I'm mainly worried about my text messages and whatsapp conversations (I think all other data settings are saved by Google, and reapplied once the app is installed back again, right?)
@SkyStars - Thank you. I tried using BetterBatteryStats, but I have no idea what I'm looking for. Should I be looking at Processes, Partial Wakelocks, Other or Kernel Wakelocks; and then what in these? I've heard a lot about CyagnogenMod. When you say it does not support S-pen, does it mean that the phone has no use for it at all? Can we still maneuver the screen with it, or take screenshots? Or does it just stop working? So, I should stay away from flashing the counter? My counter (I think) right now says 4.
@welchertc - Thank you. I found out about keeping a black wallpaper to decrease battery use a few weeks ago; I've had a black wallpaper since. I'll remove useless apps, then lets see what happens. Is the link I provided in the beginning ok, or should I search for something else? I was wondering about killed apps popping up after some time (Facebook for example). I have email sync turned off. I've been trying to turn off sync for a few apps, but some of them dont give me such an option (eg. The Drudge Report). I have started looking for some ROMs. But I ask you the same question I asked JB about ROMs - Can I have only 1 ROM at a time? And, will have to erase everything every single time? The warranty problem's the same with Apple. Just like you said, it seems to be the same with Apple - just reinstall the stock iOS, and you're ready to go (I had my iPhone changed after I went back to stock from a jailbroken firmware after it also developed battery issues; the new phone I received was brilliant in the battery department). I think my counter is up to 4.
@spade1031 - Thank you. Milestone 6 is an AOKP release. I'll look into the other releases you've mentioned as well. I've been using the Go Launcher because I tried AWD, and didnt like it. Any other nice ones out there? (But maybe I wont need them after a ROM install).
@CalcProgrammer1 - Thank you for the very informative and in-depth writing. What exactly is a CPU governor? If it is what I think it is, then I think I used one back when AT&T hadnt rolled out ICS, and I had (somehow) rooted the older version. I installed an app (dont remember the name) that basically let me create profiles in which I could set the max and min CPU usages; is that it? So I shouldnt worry about closing apps using any witget? The reason I ask is because the phone tends to get a bit slugish when a lot of apps are open, and available RAM (as shown on Go Taskmanger is around ~75 MB). I'll try not closing any apps from now on and note the difference. If I do go with CyanogenMod, what exactly will I be losing in terms of TouchWiz? I have flashed before (tried ICS before it officially came out), so my flash now is at 4. Should I take a chance and turn it in as is and see if they still change it; or should I try flashing the counter before turning it in?
Once again, thanks everyone for the replies.
tutusinghsohi said:
Thank you all for the quick replies
@spade1031 - Thank you. Milestone 6 is an AOKP release. I'll look into the other releases you've mentioned as well. I've been using the Go Launcher because I tried AWD, and didnt like it. Any other nice ones out there? (But maybe I wont need them after a ROM install).
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Dude your gonna hate me but this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538926
Best launcher for the Note? Has a ton of info.. most people will still use a custom launcher after a Rom but it is all personal pref. I like apex (got the paid version) nova isn't bad but not for me... I'm now playing with sslauncher, like this as landscape and portrait can be set 2 different ways and has text icons built in and also NO GRID you have to follow for the icons
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Dude your gonna hate me but this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538926
Best launcher for the Note? Has a ton of info.. most people will still use a custom launcher after a Rom but it is all personal pref. I like apex (got the paid version) nova isn't bad but not for me... I'm now playing with sslauncher, like this as landscape and portrait can be set 2 different ways and has text icons built in and also NO GRID you have to follow for the icons
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Thanks a lot for the link.. I'm going through the thread now..
Go Launcher is alright (for now) because of all the widgets they make.. They turn out pretty crappy when used with other launchers..
Just tried Nova Launcher. Seemed good, but I think I've gotten used to Go Launcher.. But I will definitely make a switch soon..
Also, one of the very first replies to the thread you posted about suggests overclocking. Will I be able to do that when installing custom ROMs?
Regarding how to read Better Battery Stats, the developer of the app is very active on xda and you can actually get help reading the logs from the app on the app thread on xda.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Make sure you read the OP to see how to post the logs and also it'll give you insight into how to understand what the app is telling you.
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@welchertc - Thank you. I found out about keeping a black wallpaper to decrease battery use a few weeks ago; I've had a black wallpaper since. I'll remove useless apps, then lets see what happens. Is the link I provided in the beginning ok, or should I search for something else? I was wondering about killed apps popping up after some time (Facebook for example). I have email sync turned off. I've been trying to turn off sync for a few apps, but some of them dont give me such an option (eg. The Drudge Report). I have started looking for some ROMs. But I ask you the same question I asked JB about ROMs - Can I have only 1 ROM at a time? And, will have to erase everything every single time? The warranty problem's the same with Apple. Just like you said, it seems to be the same with Apple - just reinstall the stock iOS, and you're ready to go (I had my iPhone changed after I went back to stock from a jailbroken firmware after it also developed battery issues; the new phone I received was brilliant in the battery department). I think my counter is up to 4.
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To turn off all auto syncing, like I do, Just go into accounts and sync under settings and there should be one box or slier to uncheck to turn off all auto syncing. You can also leave it on and configure your individual accounts such as email, twitter, and facebook to sync automatically or not. =]
And yes, you can only truly run one ROM at a time. You could make a nandroid of one ROM, flash another and configure it, then nandroid the second once you have it set up, then keep restoring those two nandroids every time you want to switch. Although that is pretty ineffective if you like to keep switching things up on your homescreens, as the nandroids stay exactly the same.
You also don't need to erase everything per se. All of your pictures and stuff are a good idea to backup, to your computer or an sd card, if you're flashing a rom that requires a full wipe. Your apps and app data will be wiped, so definitely buy titanium backup pro if you haven't already, as that will allow you to restore all of your apps between flashes. Also, there are various sms backup apps, though I've never used one so I can't recommend any. email you can obviously resync quite easily, same with contacts once you have them all synced to your gmail account. Other than that, about the only thing you can't restore afaik is exactly how you have your homscreens/wallpaper setup.
tutusinghsohi said:
4. ROM - FLOODED = the only word I can use after I saw the Android Development section. So many choices. Is it worth flashing my phone with one of these? Which one do you recommend? Is the one for CyanogenMod good? What exactly does Nightly Built mean?
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There is really only like 3-4 unique roms in there. The majority of them are peoples themed versions one of those.
CM9 is by far the smoothest but I am having problems with GAPPs 7/19 build. Im currently running AOSPxXx until I can sort out the GAPPs issues Im having.
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Thanks a lot for the link.. I'm going through the thread now..
Go Launcher is alright (for now) because of all the widgets they make.. They turn out pretty crappy when used with other launchers..
Just tried Nova Launcher. Seemed good, but I think I've gotten used to Go Launcher.. But I will definitely make a switch soon..
Also, one of the very first replies to the thread you posted about suggests overclocking. Will I be able to do that when installing custom ROMs?
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To be honest I tried overclocking only once am I was on a super light weight Rom, with that I didn't see much improvement but I have noticed the people do see am improvement are also using bigger Rom s. Again I'm sure you will see this many times more you are on here "flash it and find out" the reason is no one has done every combo out there. But over clicking will help at times just keep in mind your not happy with the battery now? And your gonna run your phone harder? Lol
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Just wondering how it going? Get your new phone? Flash anything? If so what and what do you think of it?
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My two words of advice is
1. Get extra batteries/wall charger I bought 3 batteries and charger for like 12 bucks
2. Get cm9 its amazing
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My personal impression regarding Go launcher is that its very complete (widgets included) but for my experience its a heavy battery drainer so unfortunately i had to uninstall it
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I have searched our Forum for anything on this phone overheating and there is one thread that I came across, but most people did not really have this issue at all. I mean in normal usage doing pretty much nothing my phone holds at 45-50C, given that is with all four cores operating, and if I play a game the cores have reached 70C and up, I am almost certain that is simply too high for this phone to be operating at. Also, even when I use eco mode the phone still idles around 40C and will reach temps as high as 64C. I am just wondering if I am alone or people have actually tested this also and have results similar to mine. I was hoping maybe there might be potential fixes for this or would I need to get a replacement device?
Don't have a great answer for you but I can tell you the phone has some safeguards in place. One that I am aware of is the screen brightness will self-dim until the phone temp drops.
Arlington- as in TX.?
Pony Express said:
Don't have a great answer for you but I can tell you the phone has some safeguards in place. One that I am aware of is the screen brightness will self-dim until the phone temp drops.
Arlington- as in TX.?
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Yeah, I live in Arlington, TX. Yeah, I noticed the self-dim feature, but that happens way too much, and too often, I mean I rarely get to use the phone at 100% brightness and no phone should be like that in my opinion. I am just curious if other people are dealing with similar issues, but I am checking eco mode now and my temps on idle are 36C-38C, its when I actually use my phone as a quad core phone, shocking, that it gets waaay hotter. I mean its hot on the back of the phone when I touch there and when I check the temp with an app. I feel I should be able to use my quad core as a quad core when need be, not have it get so hot its unbearable to hold, plus I don't want to do any damage with it reaching 70C temps.
Me, too in Arlington.
I would definitely say based on that it would be a good idea to exchange it, those temps are a bit much.
All og's get hot like that when playing games, etc. It is just how it is designed - like it or not / love it or leave it, lol.
I would have preferred they make the phone a little thicker with more heat sink so it could run full speed all the time when needed.
But they didn't. So, oh well. Maybe my next phone will fix that someday.
Jason
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Me, too in Arlington.
I would definitely say based on that it would be a good idea to exchange it, those temps are a bit much.
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Darn, I was hoping for something else, ha. Oh well, guess I will be dealing with that then, meh.. By any chance could you tell me your temps you are getting? So, I know what is normal for the device?
With 5 mins. light use (wi-fi, web, phone call, 2 texts, no gameplay) 25.4 C
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If you are using a phone for AT&T network on T-mo, it is possible that is adding to the temp prob, not an expert here just an educated guess that the more it tries to find network signal the warmer it may get.
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With 5 mins. light use (wi-fi, web, phone call, 2 texts, no gameplay) 25.4 C
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If you are using a phone for AT&T network on T-mo, it is possible that is adding to the temp prob, not an expert here just an educated guess that the more it tries to find network signal the warmer it may get.
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Yes, but this happen on wifi only with data and no sim card installed, I am waiting to get an at&t sim card, lol. Shouldn't have done it online, but it cost 99 cents, instead of $15 bucks in the store.
Good call... hope it helps !!
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Good call... hope it helps !!
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Well, the strange thing is that I reverted back to stock everything, no root, or unlocked boot loader, and my overheating issue has been solved.. Weird. I only get around 35C even doing a benchmark with all four cores running at the same time. I think the Base rom and kernels still have some bugs that need to be worked out. I idle at 22C now, woot!
Glad to hear that!! Nice work.
am using the new build from Team Nocturnal with no probs. You might want to read through the thread first as some are having issues.... point is, no overheating and battery life seems good so far.
One thing I learned by testing, even going to the extent of exchanging my phone 2 days ago - if you charge your phone while it is off and unplug the charger it will drain the battery because it does not shut down the charge animation. The workaround is to simply turn the phone on and let it boot, either leave it on or then it is ok to turn off.
Pony Express said:
Glad to hear that!! Nice work.
am using the new build from Team Nocturnal with no probs. You might want to read through the thread first as some are having issues.... point is, no overheating and battery life seems good so far.
One thing I learned by testing, even going to the extent of exchanging my phone 2 days ago - if you charge your phone while it is off and unplug the charger it will drain the battery because it does not shut down the charge animation. The workaround is to simply turn the phone on and let it boot, either leave it on or then it is ok to turn off.
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Oh wow, I did not even know that was an issue, ha, well, thanks for the heads up on that and I think I have to send my phone off to LG sadly, according to AT&T, but when I get it back I will be looking into their new base rom, I did skim the thread a little, and I am glad to hear there is no overheating. I am not sure if it was a kernel issue or the base rom itself, which is puzzling.
You may have selected Sk8's kernel during The Base's installation. I can't speak for it myself, but it's different than the stock kernel and may have been causing the problem?
Speculation at best.
No worries, Its what I am doing right now, just speculating, I mean I actually selected both kernels in the base rom, and tested them out. I was trying to figure out what the issue was. I think it might not have left me do a clean install, as I did select Sk8's Kernel first. So, I am thinking that the kernel stuck, even when I did a full wipe, before reinstalling and using the other kernel. I also was getting Kernel crashes, and it kept showing up a kernel crash screen, and asked me to go into download mode to store the dump file on my computer. I am new to android/Linux things, I am far more familiar with Windows based things, but android is the freedom OS of mobile devices. I like the customizations and things you can do with it, lol. Its sweet, and I am learning everyday, so that I can possible become a Dev later on. I have ported some things before and I know other forms of coding, just not the required programming languages for Linux.
My guess would be Sk8's kernel as well, I know it has the gpu overclocked, so if you are running graphics intensive apps it doesn't surprise me that you can be getting overheating issues.
Maybe try the bootloader unlock again to reinstall the freegee kernel...
Just a suggestion.
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My guess would be Sk8's kernel as well, I know it has the gpu overclocked, so if you are running graphics intensive apps it doesn't surprise me that you can be getting overheating issues.
Maybe try the bootloader unlock again to reinstall the freegee kernel...
Just a suggestion.
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v1:
- initial release
v2:
- added GPU OC and UV settings
v2.1
- revert GPU settings until i get them more stable
- add voltage control via sysfs (use system tuner to select your custom UV settings)
- fix the black screen issue for alot of users
v2.2
- fast_charge on usb (icon will still show as slow charge but it will actually charge faster)
- cpu tweak to enable use of all freqs in high stress times like games and benchmarks
^ That is the change log for Sk8's Kernel, the gpu isn't overclocked anymore, it was in the initial release. So, I know its not that, and as I stated in a previous post I tried both of them, but even when I wiped everything, I think that Sk8's kernel was sticking. The reason I say this is even after a fresh install and selecting Freegee Kernel during installation, when the rom booted back up it would show Sk8's Kernel, and I would get Kernel crashes, which would also lead to a Crash screen, asking me to go into download mode to save the dump file. Though even after messing with that and monitoring it for several days, its hard to tell what it was, but I do know I am not having the issues anymore when I brought everything back to stock, I can assume it was one of the kernels, a combination, the base rom, but I am not 100% sure.
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^ That is the change log for Sk8's Kernel, the gpu isn't overclocked anymore, it was in the initial release. So, I know its not that, and as I stated in a previous post I tried both of them, but even when I wiped everything, I think that Sk8's kernel was sticking. The reason I say this is even after a fresh install and selecting Freegee Kernel during installation, when the rom booted back up it would show Sk8's Kernel, and I would get Kernel crashes, which would also lead to a Crash screen, asking me to go into download mode to save the dump file. Though even after messing with that and monitoring it for several days, its hard to tell what it was, but I do know I am not having the issues anymore when I brought everything back to stock, I can assume it was one of the kernels, a combination, the base rom, but I am not 100% sure.
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Shows what I know, lol.
I was going by what I read for the Base ROM Aroma installer description, maybe the Base is still using an old version, but if you installed it on your own, then you should have been the latest.
Sorry, lol.