Howdy All,
Well to cut a long story short, I have broken my leg, rather badly, to the point of minimum 6 months in a wheelchair sort of break. No big deal, it will heal, but I figure it gives me a hell of a lot of downtime, which means I may just have time to get into this cooking thing.
I've found a few guides, but they all seem to be device specific, and reccomend further reading without pointing one in the direction of where to do that reading.
Can any one point me to some resources and get me into the kitchen? Any help would be muchly appreciated!
Cheers,
JD
Really? Not one suggestion?
I'm not asking you to do the work for me, I just need a little help in which direction to head. I'm looking for documentation and resources, and after being elbow deep in google searches, the best I can find is some tool that takes a stock i9000 rom and makes it flashable.
I've been playing with roms for a long while, I've dabbled in coding both with android's bastardised java and a few other languages. I'm not here saying please hold my hand, I'm just wondering how the chefs here got started.
There seems to be a distinct lack of documentation or information to bridge the gap from never having cooked a rom to noob chef. Once I get that under my belt I will have a better idea about what I specifically need to learn more about
This is a community yeah? Surely if that's the case, there's at least some advice for someone who is interested in starting development. Give something back and all? I'm not here to take someone elses work, put some themes on top and release it as my own, I'm genuinely interested in learning more about the OS and understanding what makes these things tick.
I'm sure you all didn't fall off the toilet while hanging a clock and wake later with an understanding of the metaphorical flux capacitor that powers custom ROMS, all I am interested in is how to get started, how did you get started, what should I be reading about?
Thanks in advance for any help.
JuzzyDee said:
Really? Not one suggestion?
I'm not asking you to do the work for me, I just need a little help in which direction to head. I'm looking for documentation and resources, and after being elbow deep in google searches, the best I can find is some tool that takes a stock i9000 rom and makes it flashable.
Its the post topic kitchens are in the Dev section
But you want something different to a kitchen to put together a rom you are looking to learn how to build a rom .The route is probably the XDA developers forum front page .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/
jje
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Down the hallway, first door on your right
But seriously, wouldn't have a clue. Just bumping this for you.
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Hey guys,
I just got my mogul and am just starting to mess around with it. I am looking at custom roms, and would like to understand what they are doing, and eventually figure out how to make my own.
I am having trouble understanding how the rom file works. I downloaded one of dcd's clean rom to have a look at it, but i cant get past the 02_OS.nb file. what is this file, and how do I interpret it? Is there some program that i can use to extract it (if it even works like that)? I found the nbh extractor program on the wiki, but i cant find anything to do with the nb files on the wiki, or through the search function for that matter.
Thanks for any help,
Stuart
Sturatt,
What you are trying to do takes quite a bit of research and lots of getting stuck trying to figure things out. It sounds like you are very new to this and if that is the case I would definately do a lot more reading first. I got into making my own roms based on others roms within kitchens and it took me about a month or two to say I actually understand what I am doing and I still don't know how to do a lot of things.
Anyway if you don't want to spend tons of time messing with roms I would suggest getting a rom that has alrady been built by guys that have tons of knowledge such as DCD's roms, Custels roms, Colonels roms etc. The first two have postings on this forum, there are others at the ppcgeeks forum.
That being said if you do want to spend the time check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10401 this is a discussion on what you are trying to do and there are some links to tutorials.
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Sturatt,
What you are trying to do takes quite a bit of research and lots of getting stuck trying to figure things out. It sounds like you are very new to this and if that is the case I would definately do a lot more reading first. I got into making my own roms based on others roms within kitchens and it took me about a month or two to say I actually understand what I am doing and I still don't know how to do a lot of things.
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Start with downloading and learning to install custom pre-made ROMs. Read all relevant material as links to other discussion boards are just about everywhere. With custom ROMs, you can find a base that you like and as you develop your ROM skills, you can take it to the next level by further tweaking a ROM to suit your needs.
Research, some trial & error, make plenty of back-ups and prepare to do some hard resetting!
Awesome, thanks guys. I realize it is going to be pretty tough, but i would rather learn it and understand what is going on, so no i dont mind reading a ton of stuff, i was just having trouble finding the stuff to read.
jjlwork and xweaponx thanks for the good advice. and If anyone else has some good articles/links for a beginner in this area, or anything interesting, please post away! In the mean time ill read that thread you posted, and look for more like it.
Thanks again,
Stuart
Let me know what kind of applications you are looking for or what you would like your phone to do and I will try to get you pointed in the right direction...
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Awesome, thanks guys. I realize it is going to be pretty tough
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not really, just lots of reading and testing things. i never had a ppc before august 07 or so. take it slowly, try one thing at a time.
I would like to start learning how to mod ROMs and eventually get into developing my own. After being a user for over a year I'd like to help a little myself eventually. I'm looking for a good place to start , kind of like an all in one tutorial if possible. I know a good amount of java (I took an AP computer science class at my school if that helps you get the idea of around where I'm at) and a little C. And I'm willing to learn more along the way as needed. I have a passion for doing this kind of stuff so hopefully it won't be too hard to learn. I'm willing to start anywhere and any guidance is much appreciated.
Check the developers thread a guide has been posted already
Kieron
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Sorry but i just looked for the thread ao i could link it for you but cant dind it for love or money. Or maybe my mind is playing games with me.
But i was sure a dev posted a guide
Kieron
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So I'm going to try to start doing some dev work. I feel like my programming and hardware background is sufficient enough that I should be able to pick it up fairly quickly especially with some of the tools I've already found.
Question for the existing devs working on the note...
Are you using a tool like Custom ROM Creator Studio or are you doing it by other means? I looked and there doesn't appear to be a book I could read to help me along like I've done in the past with other languages/etc. Are you doing it directly through a linux box? I have a lot of questions as I am beginning this process but for now I have to go off of what I find through google and here. So any help or direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
Edit: I'm currently reading through the documentation at source.android.com
If you don't get and responses I would suggest searching in the general forum area of xda, I found good info on developing there when I was thinking about it.
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supermerkin said:
If you don't get and responses I would suggest searching in the general forum area of xda, I found good info on developing there when I was thinking about it.
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Searching through the general forum now. Finding a lot of device specific stuff, specifically HTC. I'll keep looking though. Thanks for the tip!
Still doing my homework...any teachers that can tell me what homework I should be doing would still be nice
I admire your courage. Best of luck. We need more devs.
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I admire your courage. Best of luck. We need more devs.
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I'm setting up my dev environment on my mac now. With some time (and maybe some luck) I can start moving on this. I'm going to have to set up the same environment on my mac at home as well so I can play around there too. I didn't realize that I'd have to set up such a huge virtual machine to do the development on my windows machine. Didn't really want to give up all that space.
I love my note but want that power that those devs have! Back when I was on my Galaxy S II I went nuts trying to find the one ROM that had everything I wanted but could never find that one ROM that suited me. I have to admit that is my driving force for wanting to develop. Obviously I'll be happy to share what I do (if I really am able to do something) and even support what I release because thats what a good dev does
I've been programming since I was 12. Taken some college courses but dropped out because I knew more than the instructors and was bored out of my mind. Ended up with a job at that university! Now I'm just hoping I can pick up the android os like I was able to pick up everything else.
Hello!
I'm currently studying in the last high school year and I'm thinking in going for Informatics and Computing Engineering at the College so most likely I'll be connected to this kind of development work...
Despite knowing some basic things of HTML and CSS and programming little programs in C or C++ I am still noob and don't really have knowledge to call myself a programmer but I'm interested and "self prompted" to learn more and more about this world and I believe some Android would be good for me.
Well, I am thinking in trying to learn alone in my free time with the objective to be able to build a custom rom for myself or something like that. I also want to make some apps... well, some Android things not only for myself but also to share here and help the others like I've been helped since ever. But... well I am realistic and I believe it isn't that easy and I need to take the right way, that's why I'm asking here for some advice and information... how did you developers learn what you learned? was it from the internet and practice at home or did you take any course? how much time did you need to learn the basics and start your experiments?
Thanks in advance!
Well its not for everyone.. I mean its not that easy. Ive been trying to pull of something myself and didnt succeed yet. But im gonna try till it succeeds. Just dont give up. There are plenty of guides around. Im sure youll figure it out!
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There are some resources in these forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/coding
http://forum.xda-developers.com/app-development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central
I've bookmarked them all, thanks ^^
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
wow
Davengerr said:
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
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wow sorry bud but that's just way too much information to just drag over here to your thread it all depends on if you're capable of doing the job correctlyI would highly recommend going over to the development section and just start reading that is the only way you are going to know for sure is 250 peoples experiences not just one that comes over here to your thread and decides to give you a quick easy information. It is what it is.everything you dreamed of knowing about this device is here if you're willing to look for it...there are a bunch of very very recent development items that you're going to want to do your own homework on anyway not just one guy that thinks he knows it all come over here and help you screw up your device...good luck and enjoy your new Kindle
to sum it up there are risks with everything depending on ability to do proper research, comprehension level and ability to follow directions. .hell for some wiping their ass and tying their shoes have more risk than safestrap does when used properly.
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
lupin87 said:
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
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well I'm sorry that you haven't found many of my comments useful obviously you haven't read very many of them but obviously some of my more aggravated ones have caught your attention you're welcome to look at my profile and check out my activity for the last year and a half I helped over a dozen people fix their bricked devices and contributed and many many helpful links which resulted in nothing but people trolling and being lazy and lazier and lazier I am simply trying to get people to do as I did and research and find their own information before adding additional clutter tothe forums...it's fine to be a noob everybody has been a noob at one time. And when you spend enough time here and with enough devices you will figure out that you just cannot help lazy people that are unwilling to find their own research at least to an extent. You're welcome to spend hundreds of hours of your time running around the forums cutting and pasting links to help the lazy ones but soon you will figure out that's all you are doing is enabling a growing problem. in other words the more I have helped them the less they actually knew orlearn because of not doing something the long way.
as some would say anything worth having is worth earning it yourself for the hard work / research. I noticed that most of the folks that do exactly these kinds of threads all of a sudden think they know everything. And then brick because they don't know near as much as I they need to because somebody came over to their one thread and gave them a little information or a couple of links. that they only partially read anyway. And then they are starting another thread. Titled PLEASE HELP I BRICKED MY DEVICE!!! identical to 30 threads that are dealing with the identical situations and .I have personally been up for several hours at a timetrying to help these types of people and they just simply cannot follow directions. And or most the time trying to translate it and screw it up in the translation somehow and then run away and start another thread because they still cannot get it right no matter how many people are trying to help them or how many links you give them. It's a waste of resources and everybody's time.it's just unbelievable to me that all this information is here already if they would just go and find them. they just choose not to. or believe they do not have the time to read them and expect special treatment and or catered to for some reason...I'm sorry I made the time and I'm a busy man and it seems disrespectful to me for anybody else to think they deserve different treatment
so to sum it up you are welcome to spend even half as much time in these forums researching reading and dragging pasting and copying links and see if you don't get a little bitter when you like to come here and find stuff yourself and its all cluttered up with repetition and threads starting with a question that was answered in the thread that was right below theirs READ THE THREADS and learn from other peoples experiences. Then you will adequately realize the risk that you are taking. You are not getting enough information when you start one of these threads to go doing the modifications that people are doing. All the information is here .
that's annoying it happens way too often and a lot more often than my snappy comments..
i vote @jimyv for moderator
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i vote @jimyv for moderator
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glad somebody still has a sense of humor lol I know from experience you can tend to get a little jaded hanging around here too much. I can't help but lurk though..I do own three HDX devices and development has been pretty much a dead fish.( until very recently I must say very cheesy) Compared to the other 15 devices that I maintain for myself and family. As a full-time mechanic and father I spend way too much time in here I know. and to those that have been insultedby what I have had to say I am probably speaking directly to you ,others probably just get a kick from me watching get aggravated. And many more out there that are silent know exactly what I am speaking of and refuse to help anybody anymore because said issues (much of the true talent) unfortunately,and that is the true loss.