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I don't know why everyone hates on motoblur. I love it on my D2G, its quite fast and the builtin weather widget is nice.
You may be the only person to ever admit to liking blur. That must have taken some balls to post.
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I like it too, you will be surprised how many people do. It is just those who don't making too much noise of it.
For me blur dialer, contacts, messaging, social networking integration is something that makes UI streamlined for my daily use. I hear good things about the "new blur" coming with the GB update and I can't wait to try it.
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leobg said:
I like it too, you will be surprised how many people do. It is just those who don't making too much noise of it.
For me blur dialer, contacts, messaging, social networking integration is something that makes UI streamlined for my daily use. I hear good things about the "new blur" coming with the GB update and I can't wait to try it.
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Finally, another non-hater.
I gave it its fair try but I finally ended up using go launcher ex and freezing whatever blur thing I could. I did for a while use fission and liked it but could not input the sim unlock code on it so I stayed with the original.
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I used it for about 9 months before learning how to root and change ROMS. It was buggy, lots of forced restarts, etc. That built in weather widget is crap too, doen't update very well. Since switching to Liberty I've been happy as a clam. This runs much faster and next to zero bugs.
Then again in the case of a bug there's ways to report it to the developer and get something fixed rather quickly.
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I used it for about 9 months before learning how to root and change ROMS. It was buggy, lots of forced restarts, etc. That built in weather widget is crap too, doen't update very well. Since switching to Liberty I've been happy as a clam. This runs much faster and next to zero bugs.
Then again in the case of a bug there's ways to report it to the developer and get something fixed rather quickly.
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Odd, I've never had any of those issues, and my phone runs smooth.
mikespears said:
i don't know why everyone hates on motoblur. I love it on my d2g, its quite fast and the builtin weather widget is nice.
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..... To the pyre!!!!!!
Huh. I must have simply gotten used to whatever the system in my old Droid 1 had. Like being able to sort and display contacts by last name first name.
I can appreciate that there are users that like the blur apps, but I think they "blur" the line between true smartphone fuctionality and older pda-like phones.
disclaimer: I carried pdas around for almost 10 years before smartphones.
Dan
i can understand why someone would like the blur apps, i personally like the contacts widget, contacts app and messaging app, but blur itself is terrible, first thing i did when i got my phone (after giving blur a chance and hating it) was root it and freeze all the bloat, except the blur apps i actually like, the phone was much smoother, battery life was better and i didnt have to deal with the blur launcher and useless apps anymore.
I got my D2G about two weeks ago, I had issues with blur, but with the 2.3 update they've all disappeared. I can't think of a reason why I should root my phone now.
tynan said:
I got my D2G about two weeks ago, I had issues with blur, but with the 2.3 update they've all disappeared. I can't think of a reason why I should root my phone now.
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To freeze blockbuster and City ID. That alone puts me over the edge.
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To freeze blockbuster and City ID. That alone puts me over the edge.
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Along with all the Verizon apps.
I also like it. the services of it is good. and with built-in launcher, the Motorola widgets works such good.
The best function is SNS network integration, very easy to use and powerful.
But the Motorola will stop developing it for next new coming devices. another word, I think the Google will create some powerful applications like blur. (if the players can't totally accept Google+ at this moment).
When is this going to be available? I'm sick and tired of having to go through MotoBlur and all those other ****ty AT&T apps. I just want a regular computer OS on a cellphone so that I can talk to people over skype via. wifi. Is that so hard to ask?
So, how can I go about this? Or is this still not available?
Still unavailable, unless you want a extremely unstable and slow rom, best bet right now is to flash gingerblur
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When is this going to be available? I'm sick and tired of having to go through MotoBlur and all those other ****ty AT&T apps. I just want a regular computer OS on a cellphone so that I can talk to people over skype via. wifi. Is that so hard to ask?
So, how can I go about this? Or is this still not available?
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Be ready as soon as you get it done!
If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If you build it they will come. Otherwise get a different device or quit crying and ride it out.
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Ninja rom de-blurs and de-bloats.
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Ninja rom de-blurs and de-bloats.
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It definately does not de-blur. Its just themed as aosp but the rest of blur is still there. Its goal is to become de-blurred but were far from that. Id say a few more weeks/ month or two.
I recommend cherryblur. I think it can provide what you're looking for. Upon loading it bypasses the MOTOBLUR setup process entirely and replaces the moto interface with LauncherPro, which is much more enjoyable to use. From there you can download SDK Stock App remover and Advanced Task Killer for complete control over what goes on under the hood of your phone. It may sound like a *****, but if you're a control freak when it comes to your personal devices like I am, it's well worth the effort.
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http://www.expansys.com/motorola-atrix-207852/
Seems the SIM Free version is out in the UK. Does anyone own one and can get the Gingerbread rom for it? I'd like to have the atrix without the AT&T crap, but keep Motoblur... I'm from the UK so it would also be nice to have all the UK customisations and not US ones (e.g telephone no. spacing, en-GB language etc.)
One of the great things about open source is the hobbyist/developer side bringing us great enhancements and functionality for cheap or free. Then you have the ungrateful users like this are experts at *****ing, whining and demanding but not smart enough to go buy something like the nexus s or a phone that has had its bootloader unlocked more than a month and some development under its belt for awhile.
I voided my warranty.
jimbojones69 said:
If this phone doesn't offer it, which phone does?
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If you want it that bad, then grab the lower spec Motorola Milestone. If you need one with an 850 3G Band, then get the Telus Motorola Milestone.
Ironically I know someone who went from the Atrix to the Milestone for this purpose alone, and they are actually happier because of no Motoblur.
Then again if I didn't have my SGS, I might have entertained the idea of going back myself since I truly hate Motoblur as well... (my Atrix is sitting on the sidelines waiting for official CM7 or Vanilla)
Obscene Topiary said:
I recommend cherryblur. I think it can provide what you're looking for. Upon loading it bypasses the MOTOBLUR setup process entirely and replaces the moto interface with LauncherPro, which is much more enjoyable to use. From there you can download SDK Stock App remover and Advanced Task Killer for complete control over what goes on under the hood of your phone. It may sound like a *****, but if you're a control freak when it comes to your personal devices like I am, it's well worth the effort.
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IMHO Advanced Task Killer needs to be laid to rest since the days of Eclair.
Froyo changed everything, and ATK hasn't worked properly since Froyo came out.
I recommend using "System Panel" instead. It shows you everything running in the background. You can kill programs just like ATK if you really want, but more importantly you can find the repeat offending programs that keep popping up and freeze them in Titanium Backup...
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I am amazed at how many people still believe that ATK is a "must-have". It's such a gross misconception. Here is a thread that covers the topic quite comprehensively:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
ccrows said:
IMHO Advanced Task Killer needs to be laid to rest since the days of Eclair.
Froyo changed everything, and ATK hasn't worked properly since Froyo came out.
I recommend using "System Panel" instead. It shows you everything running in the background. You can kill programs just like ATK if you really want, but more importantly you can find the repeat offending programs that keep popping up and freeze them in Titanium Backup...
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I am amazed at how many people still believe that ATK is a "must-have". It's such a gross misconception. Here is a thread that covers the topic quite comprehensively:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
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Exactly!
It blows my mind on how many people (even on other XDA boards) still suggest using 3rd party task killers.
There's no reason, especially with the Atrix, to use them anymore...
I used to be a crack addict... er a blackberry user.
The Bold 9000 was my pride, loved it to death, but it lacked a proper browsing experience and a proper camera with autofocus.
Switched over to the 9700 and still no proper camera and browsing experience.
Wind mobile released the Amaze 4g and I knew I had to have it. I was eyeing the sensation but paying $400-500 was turning me off, and the fact that I wouldn't have warranty as well.
Picked up the Amaze on Monday I believe.. HUGE upgrade from my 9700.
But the more I play with it... the more disappointed I'm getting. This is my first android phone, and I really hate the bloatware, and am kind of annoyed that my first experience with android wouldn't be a stock one so I could get to know the OS in and out before throwing in any theming/extra apps into the equation.
The bootloader is currently locked down with S-ON, which is surprising as hell because Telus unlocked its bootloader, and WIND advertises itself as being the transparent customer loving company that will do anything for its customers. And I know that there won't really be a way to get stock gingerbread without having bootloader unlocked soo...
I have 10 days to return the phone, and I need help making the decision. Return it and stick with my Bold 9700, and hope that it gets the Galaxy Nexus in the near future, or keep it and learn to love Sense.
You can unlock the bootloader from htc's site and one click root it. Bloatware is very easy to remove then and you don't have to switch roms. You can keep stock without the bloatware.
jimczyz said:
You can unlock the bootloader from htc's site and one click root it. Bloatware is very easy to remove then and you don't have to switch roms. You can keep stock without the bloatware.
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That site doesn't support WIND Mobile Amaze 4gs...
It doesn't show any Amaze but it still unlocked mine. Did you try it?
Edit: I see where they list the T Mobile Amaze. Didn't when I unlocked mine.
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It doesn't show any Amaze but it still unlocked mine. Did you try it?
Edit: I see where they list the T Mobile Amaze. Didn't when I unlocked mine.
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Nope doesn't work. Doesn't give an error code or reason though.
I use to have the sensation which was a very similar phone to the amaze I was looking for reason to keep the amaze too. reason's why I kept the phone were because it just works. Usually every android phone I've had I wanted to fix something by rooting it and changing roms but with this one I haven't it has great features camera, screen size, looks and build quality etc... I'm not saying root is not needed but I am saying I like this over stock android there are still plenty of options to customize but it picks up where stock Android lacks and that's better features and looks. Stock android right now is ugly unless its a galaxy nexus which not everything has been fixed or made to look better sense has lots of better apps n features like the dialer, looks nice and can dial contacts by spelling the name stock dialer cant, camera is nicer with more options, drop down has quick options to turn on different things quickly, n there's more. This is why I kept it and like it because the reason cm7 exist is so stock android can be customized and have some options in OEM phones with custom uis like touchwiz or sense etc. So thats my two cents stock Android is great but it no longer carries the huge speed improvement that so many people were after before with dual core phones so unless your getting the galaxy nexus the amaze is great phone to keep and hopefully HTC keeps there word and updates us to ics or a dev brings us ics in the future.
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ebatr8 said:
I use to have the sensation which was a very similar phone to the amaze I was looking for reason to keep the amaze too. reason's why I kept the phone were because it just works. Usually every android phone I've had I wanted to fix something by rooting it and changing roms but with this one I haven't it has great features camera, screen size, looks and build quality etc... I'm not saying root is not needed but I am saying I like this over stock android there are still plenty of options to customize but it picks up where stock Android lacks and that's better features and looks. Stock android right now is ugly unless its a galaxy nexus which not everything has been fixed or made to look better sense has lots of better apps n features like the dialer, looks nice and can dial contacts by spelling the name stock dialer cant, camera is nicer with more options, drop down has quick options to turn on different things quickly, n there's more. This is why I kept it and like it because the reason cm7 exist is so stock android can be customized and have some options in OEM phones with custom uis like touchwiz or sense etc. So thats my two cents stock Android is great but it no longer carries the huge speed improvement that so many people were after before with dual core phones so unless your getting the galaxy nexus the amaze is great phone to keep and hopefully HTC keeps there word and updates us to ics or a dev brings us ics in the future.
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HTC widgets are cool, apploader is much nicer than touchwiz IMO, but it's the mass amount of HTC included apps that piss me off. That and random apps like flashlight that I'll never use.
Flashlights pretty useful here yo lol yea I could understand that but nothing rooting can't fix of course
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There is no amaze listed when downloading the sync software. I picked the sensation and everything worked fine. You are mainly downloading the sync program for the drivers that are included.
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The bootloader is currently locked down with S-ON, which is surprising as hell because Telus unlocked its bootloader
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What are you talking about? How is the TELUS bootloader any more unlocked than the Wind one? And TELUS is S-ON too. They all are.
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What are you talking about? How is the TELUS bootloader any more unlocked than the Wind one? And TELUS is S-ON too. They all are.
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What I meant to say is your phone's boot loader is at least unlocked. I'm unable to Flash custom roms or root
Actually the telus bootloader can no longer be unlocked so we're in the same boat.
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I'm loving this bad boy so far. The size is absolutely perfect and fits in my hand like a glove.
Physical/ Build Quality
It actually looks and feels more like the OG Inc then the Inc2. Slightly narrower then the Inc2 but a tad longer and has the same red highlighted speaker above the screen as the OG Inc. It also feels lighter then the Inc2 and, it feels more solid than any HTC to date. The back battery cover doesn't make that annoying squeak and fits tightly . :good:
Camera
Although this doesn't have the same imaging software as the ONE series, it takes pictures amazingly fast. Click, click, click -one right after another.
Beats Audio
Gimmick or not, Music sounds noticeably better on this device than on the Inc2. I'm playing the same FLAC HD files off the same SD card.
Cons
Looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but no HTC widget for Facebook. Only the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Bummer . . .
Price
I paid $106.99 (including tax) for the device as a "Buddy Upgrade" on my company's business account. They applied the $50 rebate directly to the purchase.
I haven't gotten one yet but I'm pissed that, at least according to the website, the phone isn't global ready. WTF?? The DINC 2 was global ready right? And this chip supposedly has GSM capabilities built in. So why not make it global ready from day one?
Verizon is getting on my last nerve...first they pass on the One series and put out this phone with inferior specs, then they jerk everyone around waiting for the release so they can screw us on the plan, then they don't make it global ready when the hardware clearly supports it. I don't get it. I'm going the europe next month and was looking forward to using the phone over there.
Verzion already has said they will send out a software update to make it globally complient in very near future. It has the hardware to support it inside of it.
Yeah, I didn't buy one either for the above reason. They told me in the store today it wasn't gsm capable at the moment.
doeboy711 said:
Verzion already has said they will send out a software update to make it globally complient in very near future. It has the hardware to support it inside of it.
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LOL...with Verizon the very near future could be a year from now.
And by the way, is it just a coincidence that they send out this OTA to the original DINC that is throwing everyone's phone into a constant reboot loop a week before the new DINC 4G comes out? The timing is a little suspicious. I get the stupid notification like every half hour, hoping the thing will eventually just go away.
Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
I picked up one this morning to replace my galaxy nexus. (By the way, does anyone want a nexus)
So far I love it. I wanted a 4g phone that wasn't as big as a surf board. I don't need a huge screen as I will never watch TV or anything on it so this is perfect.
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
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im sure we can fix that easily given that friendstream does exist for sense4 on the other phones
Honestly if I didnt miss school 2 weeks ago, I would leave work and go straight to picking this phone up. I wonder should I do that.... hmmm....
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...(By the way, does anyone want a nexus)...
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Fo free? :cyclops:
slacka-vt said:
No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
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Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.
Y2J
y2jdmbfan said:
Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.
Y2J
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even if its not, would be a very easy (id think) fix for custom stock-ish roms
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LOL...with Verizon the very near future could be a year from now.
And by the way, is it just a coincidence that they send out this OTA to the original DINC that is throwing everyone's phone into a constant reboot loop a week before the new DINC 4G comes out? The timing is a little suspicious. I get the stupid notification like every half hour, hoping the thing will eventually just go away.
Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.
(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
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Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.
(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
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So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?
I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
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Fo free? :cyclops:
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Based on your post logic used in the other thread this kind of discussion should be posted in a different thread based on this ones title...
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Was a longtime user of several phones, including Dinc2, and Rezound.
Picked up the 4g lte today, and I gotta say from the limited time I have with it, I am enjoying it. The biggest plus so far is the nice sharp screen. In fact, I like it more than the rezound's 720 p screen because this one is NOT scaled, so everything looks nice and crisp, and the fonts aren't too big.
Sense 4 on this phone seems pretty snappy and smooth, minimal if any lag on certain scrolls, but they are rare. Haven't made phone calls yet. 4g (here in LA county) is variable in terms of speed... from 300 KB/sec to 1.1 MB/sec. I think that is maybe more related to network congestion.
Form factor of the phone is basically the same as the Dinc2, which is a good thing, but I find this one to be easier to hold in my hands, with softer edges. Also, buttons are easier to press than the Dinc2, which is a plus. Battery door easy to open, and doesn't have flex/creaking. Another nice feature is that the SIM tray and SD card tray are both on the side of the phone, so you don't have to remove the battery to access anything, only the back cover.
All in all, I am pleased so far. Hope to continue the enjoyment, and hopefully will see some nice interest in this phone. Only question remaining is whether the bootloader will be unlocked (either by HTCdev, or otherwise). Honestly, though, Sense 4 on this phone is pretty snappy and quick, so I can overlook this even if we don't get AOSP. But nothing wrong with more options, of course, thanks to any and all devs who know how to cook roms, because I sure don't know how to.
Thanks for reading!
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no sir
I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.
I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.
Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.
I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
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I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.
I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.
Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.
I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
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I wasn't running ComRom on my Rezound but so far my experience has been the exact opposite. The Incdreble 4G has had no lag like the Rezound does. Plus, Sense 4 runs circles around the Rezounds version of Sense.
Besides, It's hardly a fair comparison to pit a custom ROM against stock anything.
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So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?
I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
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Global mode is something different. What I am talking about is buying a prepaid sim overseas or using it with t-mobile/att&t. The command doesn't work because Verizon disabled it but if you download the Thunderbolt LTE on/off app in the play store you can change it to GSM only. The options are there so the phone is capable like everyone said. I just got back from receiving the phone and the app works in switching to 3G. The sim for this phone is now a micro-sim so for someone to test they would need to trim a regular sim and put it in. This settings works for voice only. To send SMS and MMS, we need a dev to fix the ROM. That's how they did it with the Rezound. Or we wait for Verizon to enable all the functionality.
So far I am liking the phone. It's more like the original incredible than the incredible 2.
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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Google Now & Project Butter
erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
Slymayer said:
I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
balintmaci said:
smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
blueglide said:
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
erikmarko said:
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.