On Android you have the option of moving the apps to the SD card which will obviously create more internal memory.
But are there any disadvantages in this, will it slow the apps/phone down?
Well, that is a good question
The APPS may work a bit slow - it depends on the class (quality class) of your SD card - if u have a fast one it won't be visible and u won't notice the apps are on your SD.
I don't know the exact SD card class numbers - i suggest googling it never did pay attention on it, because it wasnt my #1 priority
Hope i have helped
Cheers.
Thanks, any other views on this topic?
The class of the SD card is a measure for bandwidth, I don't think android apps require a lot of bandwidth, moreover when you have opened an app it will be stored in the internal RAM, so at that point it shouldn't be an issue anymore. Of course, opening an app can be slower, but I think that access time is a larger bottleneck than the read/write speed in that case. Personally I never noticed it.
for some reason some of the apps are a little more buggy when they are on the SD so just try it and see if it works well for you. If it does there is so big downside of having it on there
Stumbled across this thread. Figured I'd share some info. First off some info on A2SD. Since it would take a lot of space I'll give you some links. You can look HERE for info on what A2SD is, and how it works. You can also check THIS thread for Darktremor's A2SD Beta info. Then there's A2SDGUI (GUI for Darktremor A2SD) which looks interesting. Here is some great information on SD Cards, how they work, and the Classes. Hope that helps shed some light on things .
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Stumbled across this thread. Figured I'd share some info. First off some info on A2SD. Since it would take a lot of space I'll give you some links. You can look HERE for info on what A2SD is, and how it works. You can also check THIS thread for Darktremor's A2SD Beta info. Then there's A2SDGUI (GUI for Darktremor A2SD) which looks interesting. Here is some great information on SD Cards, how they work, and the Classes. Hope that helps shed some light on things .
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There A2SD EXT methods, i was asking about the native Android move to SD option.
I havent got any problems with any apps whenever I move them to the SD Card. I havent moven apps which doesn't allow me to put it on the SD Card. But if you do move an app onto the SD Card, widgets for that app won't work unless the developers released an widget app for that app. For example, I moved Evernote to the SD Card and I couldn't use the widgets but the developers released another app which allowed me to use the widgets.
Hope this helps
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There A2SD EXT methods, i was asking about the native Android move to SD option.
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You could run whatever Rom your using through the Kitchen, and Enable A2SD.
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On Android you have the option of moving the apps to the SD card which will obviously create more internal memory.
But are there any disadvantages in this, will it slow the apps/phone down?
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Yes. Longer start up and shut down times because the apps on the sd card has to be monted and unmounted respectively on each boot.
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running Aloysius V11 maps and my internal memory is getting full. How do I start using the apps2sd and get my memory space back? is apps2sd an app that i can download from th market? I searched and came up with nothing in the market.
No idea, it's easier to just flash a froyo ROM that has it automatically set up lol
i think the rom i'm currently using has apps2sd but i cant find anything that turns it on.
You have to partition your drive or some ****. I dono man.
KaosFroyo has it set-up, no partition needed.
Thanks guys. I'm not looking to change roms as Aloysius has been stable and fast enough for my needs.
I'm not looking for advice on other roms, just some pointers on how to get apps2sd going within this rom.
If its an actual app you buy or if only a custom feature in certain roms. In the description for the Aloysius roms it lists apps2sd so it does work or is included - just need some help on how to get it started.
I followed this script and it worked perfect for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715933
I know it's a lot to read, but I suggest reading the whole thread cause there's a lot of troubleshooting people did, and I think I remember reading somewhere in there about some people running it on Aloysius. I am personally running EE 3.0.
Hope this helps.
After reading through the Aloysius thread for a while, admittedly not a long while, it appears people are getting mixed results with a2sd. If you search the thread with "app2sd" there are some things people have tried. Some work, some don't.
I don't have Aloysius, and have no intentions of trying, but feel free to dig through 3 pages of results.
in the amon_ra recovery menu you it can partition your card for you (make sure you back up your files to your pc first), then you should have no problem running an apps2sd script like the Darktremor a2sd one posted above.
The other posters are right though, it's much much easier to use apps2sd with a froyo rom, as you just choose "send app to sd card" in the settings menu.
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in the amon_ra recovery menu you it can partition your card for you (make sure you back up your files to your pc first), then you should have no problem running an apps2sd script like the Darktremor a2sd one posted above.
The other posters are right though, it's much much easier to use apps2sd with a froyo rom, as you just choose "send app to sd card" in the settings menu.
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Mixed lemon and darktremor thanks for the tips and I will def read up on that thread.
A2SD is a scam. I can't get it to work on my phone, it looks like it's working and yet I only have 17MB of memory. People claim to have all sorts of memory (115MB - 150MB) free when they get A2SD working, but the most I have had is 80MB. A week later, all that space is out the window, and I haven't downloaded any more apps, so where did it all go, huh?
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A2SD is a scam. I can't get it to work on my phone, it looks like it's working and yet I only have 17MB of memory. People claim to have all sorts of memory (115MB - 150MB) free when they get A2SD working, but the most I have had is 80MB. A week later, all that space is out the window, and I haven't downloaded any more apps, so where did it all go, huh?
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Is your dalvik-cache also being moved to SD? That's where all the memory is tied up. I had about 40MB free before I finally picked up a Class 4 card and moved the cache over. Now I'm at almost 140MB free, and it never changes.
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Is your dalvik-cache also being moved to SD? That's where all the memory is tied up. I had about 40MB free before I finally picked up a Class 4 card and moved the cache over. Now I'm at almost 140MB free, and it never changes.
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Any noticeable difference in performance after the memory freed up?
Okay, first of all, I have done a lot of search on this topic over various forums and google. Some topic pops up occasionally, but never got answered, strange...
Basically I am trying to figure out two things:
1. How to move apps to microSD card? Not a single definitive answer or tutorial would allow me to move apps to external SD card. I've tried app2sd, link2sd also the stock CM7 application manager, which all of them would only allow to move apps to internal storage of the phone which is called SD card for Galaxy SII. Also the microsd card is under the diretory of mnt/emmc. Some other tutorials suggesting moving game data over /sdcard/external_sd/, I tried as well, but my microSD's storage doens't go down so I assume the data is still on internal SD card.
2. How to enable apps to save user data automatically on micro sd card? For example, I have lots of camera apps, which automatically save photos that I took on /sdcard/DCIM, I want them to be on my micro SD card AUTOMATICALLY, is there a way of doing this?
Many thanks, oh btw, I am using cyanogenmod 7 on Galaxy SII
I cannot see much reason to move apps to external sd card with a sgs2, that is something for inferior phones , there is a lot of space on application storage and internal sd card for that.
Most people are fine by just moving media files to the external card.
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how about my second question, i shot a lot of photos and hd videos daily, i know i can manully move them to external, but that Kinda make my gallery look clustered if you know what i mean.
Have you tried doin it internally via your phone:settings-applications-running services.On the top left touch on "downloaded" and all your downloaded apps will appear.Touch on whatever app you like and you will get the option to move,uninstall or clear data.Remember that not all downloaded apps are able to be moved to external sd and if the app you would like to move is unmovable by default then you will see that.
The problem is Android only likes one sd card. So when you have an internal SD card like the sg2 the system doesn't take advantage of your external sd card.
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how about my second question, i shot a lot of photos and hd videos daily, i know i can manully move them to external, but that Kinda make my gallery look clustered if you know what i mean.
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You can change storage area in camera settings (with stock camera app).
totally new to partitioning my SD card, if i partition the card does the phone automatically use the space when it starts running low or what?
sorry for the newbishness, but any info/guidelines/or link to details on what its about and how to do it would be appreciated.
Thanks
I had a similar question. Is there a good reason to install something like DarkTremor to the EVO 3D? Always seems I am running out of low internal space even though I am always moving apps to sd card.
You ran out of space, even with 1.1GB and then still moving apps to sd? I find that hard to believe. What do you have installed?
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You ran out of space, even with 1.1GB and then still moving apps to sd? I find that hard to believe. What do you have installed?
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I think what he's trying to say is that even with moving apps to sd he keeps filling his internal space back up before getting around to moving everything in the meantime to the SD card manually ...
and we're both looking for a better solution.
DTa2sd symlinks a partition on the sdcard to data. It does not switch over and start installing apps on the sdcard once internal memory is full. Its only good when you have a phone with a small internal memory to begin with. I will look into something that should help with what you want.
BTW: My internal memory is almost full. With the size of some apps and their data it is way to easy to fill up the internal memory. You are not looking at just apps, but also the data associated with them.
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I've 16gb class 10 sd installed in SIII. Can browse it using My files (stock filemanagr) but can't see the external sd in OIbrowser or when trying to move apps from internal to external. In app manager it doesn show the option to move. Also tried app2sd but the option of moving doesn't show.
Any help would be appreciated.
Samsung changed the mount location for the external SD card, will be a problem for lots of apps until they update to support the new location (I confirmed this in my hands-on with the S3 last weekend - details @ AndroidNZ.net). Can you not do it with the native a2sd function from Settings --> Apps --> Manage apps though?
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Samsung changed the mount location for the external SD card, will be a problem for lots of apps until they update to support the new location (I confirmed this in my hands-on with the S3 last weekend - details @ AndroidNZ.net). Can you not do it with the native a2sd function from Settings --> Apps --> Manage apps though?
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NOpes appmanager doesnt show move option in SIII.
This is not good can this be changed by a dev?
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Why would you want to do it? GS3 has a single partition for all data, you'll never run out of the 16GB (11 usable) space you have to store apps. And it's faster memory than your sdcard.
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Why would you want to do it? GS3 has a single partition for all data, you'll never run out of the 16GB (11 usable) space you have to store apps. And it's faster memory than your sdcard.
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Yes, i understood this after reading more posts. This way is much better. 11gb itself + 50GB dropbox + wahtever you can throw in extSD
That's correct. You can read all about this in the excellent article by Chainfire on his blog entry: "Is Google blocking apps writing to SD cards?". In summary; it is not yet clear whether or not this is a (Google) feature or bug. But although Samsung is trying to work around the issue, they do so in a very sloppy way...
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Thanks for the link to the article. clarifies a lot. Got my SGS3 yesterday & I freaked out when I couldn't find the "Move to SDcard" link in the app manager...
I don't really like that method...
who needs to move apps to sd card if u got a freaking 11 gb of storage in the 16 gb version or any other .....!!
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who needs to move apps to sd card if u got a freaking 11 gb of storage in the 16 gb version or any other .....!!
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if that is the case, then what is the point of the freakin SD card???? for show??
or for MP3 and movies only?
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if that is the case, then what is the point of the freakin SD card???? for show??
or for MP3 and movies only?
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Agreed this is not what I was expecting, the question is can it be changed?
Or have I just wasted my money on a 64gb sdxc card?
the phone has 11 gb to store music and files, or it has 11 to install app's (internal memory, like the s1 had 1.9 gb to store apps and 5.6 to store files)?
according to the above, i would say that internal memory is used for apps and the external(SD) for music/video or non app.
im wondering if you can store maps for navigation there as they do take quite a bit of space.
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Is this some sort of code ?
I've been using my SGS3 for 3 days now. 16GB internal +32GB external SD
So far:
- device memory total space 11.35GB & available 1.65GB (downloaded my Google Play Music collection, went straight to internal memory, no choice)
- SD card total space 29.71GB & available 29.71GB
What I hope is happening:
the data is being distributed somehow between both cards and it just doesn't show, OR as someone stated above, the internal storage has 11GB dedicated to apps & music and what-not, and once that is used up, any additions will be moved to the external SD
What I think will happen:
"You have run out of memory, please remove some files or apps to proceed", in a typical Microsoft moment...
I was prompted only once to install stuff on the external SD; those were additional files (250MB) that needed to be downloaded for a game I had just installed. Of course I chose external SD but it doesn't look like it worked...
Some positive indications
Camera app allows me to chose the default save location. I chose external SD and now I see it has created the DCIM folder there with some pics.
My internal card is almost full. I've been making a few little downloads. Using the default file explorer I checked the external card folder, and found another new folder called Downloads with my recent stuff in there.
As explained by Chainfire (the way I understood it), the combined space from both cards works together as one.
Dropbox as well it would seem. Not that I tried that.
This isn't an issue for me. I already have a 64gb card with all my music stored on it. I will most likely never download anymore. The rest of the memory card will be for roms kernels themes and backups and an occasional movie.
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Spot on
Storage is shared for everything from Honeycomb onwards. Many ICS phones don't have sd cards.
EDIT: Oh I see the problem, many apps aren't being given permission to write to the primary external flash storage (16/32/64Gb etc...) and are then failing. That sounds like a bug to me. They've got to be able to write their app data somewhere.
Alright, this is not working properly.
I filled up my internal SD with my Google Play music. Downloaded an app which requires additional data, and it wouldn't download it until I freed up space, even though my external SD is practically untouched.
Freed up just the right amount of space by removing some of my music and I was able to download the extra data for the app.
Went back to Google Play Music to see if a Google product would know how to manage between both cards. I re-check all the music I deleted to download it again, and it tells me my memory is full...
Not happy
If you cannot even save apps on the internal SD card, then that is def. a problem and a bug. But i would doubt that is happening, otherwise all the already pre-installed software would have taken all the space.
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My internal SD is about to filled up while my Ext_SD still has more than 30Gb available out of 64Gb. I have some very big file in the internal SD such as Co-Pilot navigation's map and several games' files like Asphalt 6 & 7 ect ... Those are really big though
I wonder if there is a way to move all of those big files to the Ext-SD? I've heard of something like partitioning the Ext-SD card but don't know how to do it properly so I would really appreciates any instruction / guidance from you experts in the forum
Thanks a lot
Partitioning the external sd is a good idea but not necessary for our phones. I would move pictures and music over the external sd and see if that gives you anymore room.
You can try clearing out some space using the Amaze Memory Clear app from the market or doing it manually from Settings>Storage scroll down till you find Make More Space from the internal storage. You can clear out HTC app caches and temp data and other things it ask you. You'll be surprised how much crap gets saved.
I appreciates your replied and suggestion. Yes I did all that and all of my multi-media files were always on the external SD - even my Titanium backup folder were set on the external but, still, those games from GameLoft and off-line maps that really took all the spaces.
Thank you BTW
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Hi all
My internal SD is about to filled up while my Ext_SD still has more than 30Gb available out of 64Gb. I have some very big file in the internal SD such as Co-Pilot navigation's map and several games' files like Asphalt 6 & 7 ect ... Those are really big though
I wonder if there is a way to move all of those big files to the Ext-SD? I've heard of something like partitioning the Ext-SD card but don't know how to do it properly so I would really appreciates any instruction / guidance from you experts in the forum
Thanks a lot
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Have you tried using app2sd I use it to free up space on my internel. Take some of the other apps or those itself and transfer them to the ext
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Have you tried using app2sd I use it to free up space on my internel. Take some of the other apps or those itself and transfer them to the ext
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Thanks for your input. App2SD only moved app but not it's data. Apps are not a problem in our phone since we have 2,64Gb (internal) partitioned out from the internal SD Card (16Gb) just for apps. More than enough.
It's the data from apps that took spaces and sadly we can not move 'em to the ext-SD. I've also tried the Directory Bind but it's for the SGS2 and it won't works on our phone
Perhaps some of our clever Devs might be interesting of porting the app to our phone someday and that would be great .
Link2SD would be a better option, but it requires kernel support to work.