i am sure htc will not give official support for flyer on this... but curious tat if dual boot android with chrome os is possible on flyer...
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_50_jelly_bean_to_arrive_in_q2_with_chrome_os_dualboot-news-3839.php
google will release it in q2
Sounds fake.
Yep, Google's gonna bash their only just-rolling out OS with a new one in a couple of months. Sure.
OP, I know you were trying to share some news but just please use reliable sources (GSMArena is a site I've never heard of).
Not flaming. In fact, nowhere in the rules does it say you have to give reliable/confirmed info. But as my rule of thumb, this is the case.
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Yep, Google's gonna bash their only just-rolling out OS with a new one in a couple of months. Sure.
OP, I know you were trying to share some news but just please use reliable sources (GSMArena is a site I've never heard of).
Not flaming. In fact, nowhere in the rules does it say you have to give reliable/confirmed info. But as my rule of thumb, this is the case.
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Pardon me but gsmarena is pretty reliable. They are a forum which reviews mobile devices.
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Pardon me but gsmarena is pretty reliable. They are a forum which reviews mobile devices.
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Yes GSMarena is pretty reliable. A lot of sites are reporting this (PC World and DigiTimes) are two.
It seems that JellyBean will be a tablet update from HoneyComb
here's a quote
"Android 5.0 Jelly Bean will come in two flavors: Google and Microsoft. The article said that brand vendors "can either choose to adopt only Android 5.0 or add Android 5.0 to Windows 8 devices with the ability to switch between the two OSes without the need to shut down the computer."
One the most exciting aspects of Windows 8 is its flexibility--that you can jump from tablet to smartphone to game console and back. Adding Google products to the mix makes Microsoft's upcoming revamp of Windows even more insanely thrilling, and may be the very bullet to shatter my iPhone once and for all."
Maybe google got tired of all the Apple lawsuits and decided to drop the big hammer.
edit: Thanks nikhiltanwar for the heads up
My 2c for those saying it's an unreliable source...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...nd-android-jelly-bean-to-wait-or-not-to-wait/
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AidenM said:
Yep, Google's gonna bash their only just-rolling out OS with a new one in a couple of months. Sure.
OP, I know you were trying to share some news but just please use reliable sources (GSMArena is a site I've never heard of).
Not flaming. In fact, nowhere in the rules does it say you have to give reliable/confirmed info. But as my rule of thumb, this is the case.
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this is reliable source only... what i was wondering is tat can 1.5 ghz cpu can hold it smoothly... i am sure 1 gb ram is enough but problem is cpu....and i am sure HTC will not give anything to us now.... so its upto our forum developers only to do some good for us.... and most of details will come during may-june when google will release it... cheers
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My 2c for those saying it's an unreliable source...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...nd-android-jelly-bean-to-wait-or-not-to-wait/
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Just because a story gets copy/pasted on various websites, doesn't make the original source any more valid.
Just like the iPhone 5 rumors that got copy/pasted on pretty much every single tech website on the internet, and guess what? 100% of them were wrong.
Heck, sites like Engadget had iPhone 5 rumors
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Just because a story gets copy/pasted on various websites, doesn't make the original source any more valid.
Just like the iPhone 5 rumors that got copy/pasted on pretty much every single tech website on the internet, and guess what? 100% of them were wrong.
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Granted, but do we know for sure that there wasn't an iPhone 5 on the cards, & they changed to 4S because they lost Jobs, & weren't fully prepared? No.
No-one is saying this is fact. We're just sharing info here. Take it with a pinch of salt.
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Honestly I think HTC is shorting us by not giving us 3.0 so the only reason I'm going to get this is we can port 3.0 to it. So what are the odds? How hard is going to be?
I guess they want more development time to set up Sense on Honeycomb and possibly to push it out sooner so people get this rather than Xoom...
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The first day we have a compatible kitchen, I'll have the port out. Can make that in 10 minutes.
I.e if they haven't switched from RUU to something new...
nex7er said:
The first day we have a compatible kitchen, I'll have the port out. Can make that in 10 minutes.
I.e if they haven't switched from RUU to something new...
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Good sir you are why im buying this device. Thank you very much
Does the digitizer make porting Honeycomb more difficult (i.e., because it's not designed for styluses)? I'm on the fence about the Flyer, but developer support would be a huge plus.
+1 for honeycomb development.
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Does the digitizer make porting Honeycomb more difficult (i.e., because it's not designed for styluses)? I'm on the fence about the Flyer, but developer support would be a huge plus.
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I feel the same way although I'm 99% sure ill get it anyway. I don't see the point in 10" tablets. If I was going to carry a bulky device, I'd sooner take my laptop as its far more useful and weighs abt the same as the 10" tablets.
Have used the Galaxy Tab for a few months now and its the form factor which makes is useful to me - will fit in your pocket if you really need a free hand.
My only other concern is performance. With the majority of honeycomb tablets sporting the Tegra 2 chipset, does this mean apps will be designed with those specs in mind? Anyone know how the flyers Qualcom CPU?
Why want to port a buggy honeycomb if around 3 months later (Juni or July) there will be a official 3.0
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Why want to port a buggy honeycomb if around 3 months later (Juni or July) there will be a official 3.0
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No offense intended, but your question comes across ass a little troll-ish. Assuming you genuinely want an answer though:
1) Because apps for 3.0 are designed for tablet form-factor. If you have used any of the 2.x (or even earlier) tablets, you will know that many apps look horrible because they are either scaled up to full screen, or only appear as a 'small box' in the middle of the screen.
2) I love XDA - the Devs here are top-notch and I never have issues running early versions of the ROMs that are cooked up by XDA devs. The releases here are always way ahead of the manufacturer releases and that's kind of the whole point of the site. It lets DEVs get familiar with new platforms so that when oficial releases come out, they can be quickly ported to the 'official' build when HTC get around to releasing it.
3) Never hold your breath waiting for manufacturers to release updates. HTC are relatively quick to release updates compared to most manufacturers, but waiting for official updates can lead to pain and disappointment.
I was wondering this as well, but more in a general sense. I got an ipad from my work for winning a contest, I played with it, and I can't stand apple crap. So I'm going to sell it, looks like I can get about $450 for it on ebay. So I wanted to take that money and get a android tablet, and I was thinking I would wait for the honeycomb tabs to come out and come down in price a little. But then I thought why do that?? Especially since i'm running gingerbread on my Evo and it runs freaking awesome!
So any worries hardware or other with buying a froyo tab and rooting it and getting a honeycomb rom later? Any min specs one should look for etc..? I know it's slightly off topic sorry, but not really sure where I should post this
Thanks!!!
Do a little research next time, it WILL be released with Honeycomb. I can't post the link cause I don't have more then 8 posts, but if you google it, HTC tweeted that it will be released with 3.0.
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Do a little research next time, it WILL be released with Honeycomb. I can't post the link cause I don't have more then 8 posts, but if you google it, HTC tweeted that it will be released with 3.0.
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WTF?? What do you mean "IT will be released with honeycomb"? What is "IT"?? exactly?
anyways that post is old I bought a gtab
http://twitter.com/htc/status/48806237156016128
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Gotcha thanks, makes more sense now, but if you read my original post you'll see that I don't have an htc tablet and that it was just a general question
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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Yea, but you have to pay to use OnLive. I don`t think many people are going to bother with it.
couto607 said:
Yea, but you have to pay to use OnLive. I don`t think many people are going to bother with it.
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And seems people's 3g plan can't hold the bandwidth for a few hours per month...
Hd2 desire s build xda app.
faddys123 said:
But if you port it you will lose the gaming experience app forgot the real name and HTC said they are going to update 2 honeycomb
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didnt google say there licencing wont allow 2.x products to upgrade to honeycomb?
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didnt google say there licencing wont allow 2.x products to upgrade to honeycomb?
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Unless given express permission by mr Google, and the flyer/evo tablet got the green light
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Unless given express permission by mr Google, and the flyer/evo tablet got the green light
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Yeah, now all they need is the source. Can't understand why Google would hold back the source from HTC but...
@htc
HTC
@Geekhangover We will be offering a Honeycomb upgrade when it’s made available. What feature are you most excited about?
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Honestly I think HTC is shorting us by not giving us 3.0 so the only reason I'm going to get this is we can port 3.0 to it. So what are the odds? How hard is going to be?
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Before u spend ur money. You should know that the has no RUU released. And any system posted of the xoom that's not the WiFi version moto keeps having the links removed. And to top it all off the system dump can not be deodexed. I have even tried myself. The only version of 3.0 that can be ported is SDK and nothing works on it... T-Mobile will be releasing an honeycomb tab but know Google it will be locked too... And its not HTC's falt honeycomb will never meet sense. Google will not allow any overlays of any kind of honeycomb. That means no blur or sense...
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I read this this morning and found it interesting.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ag_occurs_more_often_in_android_than_ios.html
Makes sense why no matter how powerful our phones get they will still lag
The website is Apple Insider... that article lost all credibility to me.
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The website is Apple Insider... that article lost all credibility to me.
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+1 not a credible source
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+1 not a credible source
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The article is largely quoting or paraphrasing a Google+ post from a student who did some research into the Android code.
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
BTW, for the TL;DR crowd, here's the money quote:
"...on iOS all UI rendering occurs in a dedicated UI thread with real-time priority. On the other hand, Android follows the traditional PC model of rendering occurring on the main thread with normal priority."
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The article is largely quoting or paraphrasing a Google+ post from a student who did some research into the Android code.
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
BTW, for the TL;DR crowd, here's the money quote:
"...on iOS all UI rendering occurs in a dedicated UI thread with real-time priority. On the other hand, Android follows the traditional PC model of rendering occurring on the main thread with normal priority."
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The point he makes where you can test it yourself is brilliant.
Despite the source of the article, it did seem like a pretty good read to me and offered some decent insight as to why my Rezound, despite being essentially a flagship device, still can't match the feel of iOS. Not that I care too much, I've become accustomed to it, and it would only be frosting on the cake if they could make it so Android had that 1-to-1 feel that was mentioned.
Androids UI threads do not run at high priority like iOS and windows phone. You can read about this almost anywhere. Touching the screen on an iphone immediately halts all processing and only the display get's access to do work, so the experience is -always- fluid, at the cost of stopping all 'actual' work being done.
ICS will be better with multi-core support, but will still attempt to do work in parallel with screen updates.
But honestly, I never see any of this 'stuttering', or at least, It doesn't bother me very much if it is happening because I don't notice it.
Apple has always focused on the visuals of their products more than the actual functionality. Doesn't make it better or worse, just different. If ultra smooth transitions between things are a critical point for you, then you want an Apple device. If you prefer to focus on functionality then you probably want an android device. Just because a UI doesn't flow 100% smooth doesn't ruin the experience for me. For others it might. Google is not blind to the issue, they will eventually work it out, but for now we have what we have.
I really appreciate you posting this article as it easily explains the one big problem I've had with Android. Don't get me wrong though I have and always will continue to have an Android phone. Customization trumps fluidity. Google will correct the issue eventually as mentioned above.
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Knowing this makes me feel better about my phones and not quite so concerned with it. It actually makes perfect sense and maybe in a way makes our phones more capable.
I wonder if they will re write android to fix this and act more like ios. Maybe for android 5 lol. Doesn't Microsoft totally re write their is at some points. I'm pretty sure win7 has no win95 code in it at all.
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Knowing this makes me feel better about my phones and not quite so concerned with it. It actually makes perfect sense and maybe in a way makes our phones more capable.
I wonder if they will re write android to fix this and act more like ios. Maybe for android 5 lol. Doesn't Microsoft totally re write their is at some points. I'm pretty sure win7 has no win95 code in it at all.
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You just compared apples to oranges. Windows 8 will be MS first cross platform attempt. Which would be like comparing Chrome to Android.
Sadly even ICS doesn't solve this issue at all. Seems the route they're taking are huge hardware bumps in hopes that it will solve the issue. Good hardware cannot cover up faulty coding. I hope Google fixes it soon.
faulty coding? it's faulty because it runs differently from iOS? please, dude. it doesn't prioritize UI because it can ACTUALLY multitask, unlike iOS. that's the point. if you want a super smooth phone, leave android.
Dude we all love android here.. but if something is screwey then its screwey..no need to go Apple fanboi on us LOL
Are you talking to me? Lol.its not faulty. it's how the phone and operating system were created. If you don't like it, that doesn't mean it's faulty. Seriously?
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I usually don't get any lag but I'll take true multitasking and lag over an horrible excuse for multitasking anyday
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Really a thread about what an intern at Google thinks? Who has left? An intern.
Facebook for android was written by an intern and they have been trying to fix it ever since.
Man can't wait for root just for the fact that these useless threads will go away
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I usually don't get any lag but I'll take true multitasking and lag over an horrible excuse for multitasking anyday
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Really a thread about what an intern at Google thinks? Who has left? An intern.
Facebook for android was written by an intern and they have been trying to fix it ever since.
Man can't wait for root just for the fact that these useless threads will go away
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I just saw the article and wanted to share .. fml
Such damn negativity from a simple article. Pretty sure nobody is slamming android. I'm certainly not.
And for the record, students and interns are normally who make **** happen with technology. Who do u think makes up the teams at research universities
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I just saw the article and wanted to share .. fml
Such damn negativity from a simple article. Pretty sure nobody is slamming android. I'm certainly not.
And for the record, students and interns are normally who make **** happen with technology. Who do u think makes up the teams at research universities
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Of course they are. But I wouldn't take a part time employees word as gospel on a company as large as Google.
I certainly haven't had a lag issue. This just smacks of apple fanboy
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By now you guys may have heard of the latest news regarding Samsung's unwillingness to release documentation about their Exynos chip based devices. Codeworkx and Entropy have been trying for quite some time now but Samsung has responded in a somewhat optimistic fashion. The story is in the portal if you haven't seen it yet.
I'm posting this here so we can get as many people as possible to contact Samsung via all the social media avenues we have(twitter,Facebook,google+, etc). Lets tell them what we want and the possibility that we may go with another manufacturer for our next device(I.e LG Nexus device, hopefully open source).
I would implore users to follow @Entropy512 and @codeworkx on twitter to join the conversation
Portal link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/#disqus_thread
Petition thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
Codeworkx comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32576852&postcount=17071
More: http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/10...ver-missing-exynos-docs/#.UHVMN3qlP4Q.twitter
Spread the word to your friends in other device forums, etc to join the fight!
COME ON, SAMSUNG!!!!!
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By now you guys may have heard of the latest news regarding Samsung's unwillingness to release documentation about their Exynos chip based devices. Codeworkx and Entropy have been trying for quite some time now but Samsung has responded in a somewhat optimistic fashion. The story is in the portal if you haven't seen it yet.
I'm posting this here so we can get as many people as possible to contact Samsung via all the social media avenues we have(twitter,Facebook,google+, etc). Lets tell them what we want and the possibility that we may go with another manufacturer for our next device(I.e LG Nexus device, hopefully open source).
I would implore users to follow @Entropy512 and @codeworkx on twitter to join the conversation
Portal link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-aware-of-exynos-documentation-issue/#disqus_thread
Petition thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
Codeworkx comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32576852&postcount=17071
COME ON, SAMSUNG!!!!!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-hears-exynos-community-documentation-concerns
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Also https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/255733883449004032
This thing is growing to a serious amount right now and I like it
There are a growing amount of threads about the source code issue:
Note N7000:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32622901#post32622901
Galaxy SII I9100:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929188
The only lesson I've taken away from owning a captivate and gs2 since day 1 of each release is that if you don't want to be disappointed, nexus line is the way to go.
I'll get the next nexus and wash my hands of this sordid galaxy business.
If it's LG, so be it. Samsung makes great hardware but I feel like they string us along on the support front.
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The only lesson I've taken away from owning a captivate and gs2 since day 1 of each release is that if you don't want to be disappointed, nexus line is the way to go.
I'll get the next nexus and wash my hands of this sordid galaxy business.
If it's LG, so be it. Samsung makes great hardware but I feel like they string us along on the support front.
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Even if it is lg Google should solve the horrid software updates
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Nope. I'll still buy Samsung devices. They have the best hardware and design IMO, and I actually like Touchwiz.
i'm pretty phone-agnostic. but i'll avoid HTC and Moto like the plague because of actual hardware
will give up all the exynos produce.... too buggy with developer support
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will give up all the exynos produce.... too buggy with developer support
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huh?
I voted for YES to add some pressure. Actually, im enjoying my phone, but the experience would be even better if we had proper Exynos Documentation.
djluis48 said:
I voted for YES to add some pressure. Actually, im enjoying my phone, but the experience would be even better if we had proper Exynos Documentation.
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As am I, but Samsung needs to start giving it up. And look at how much emphasis they've placed on the whole emmc brickbug issue. They have great design and hardware elements, but if there are less devs to support the continuity and customization of these Samsung devices, then it makes all the more sense for me to jump ship. I don't like the other manufacturers, but if they are more supportive of developers in terms of code release, etc. then that's where i'll be heading. Or I might just buy a Nexus device. Samsung needs to stop being so darn stingy.
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As am I, but Samsung needs to start giving it up.
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Samsung doesn't NEED to do anything... them providing anything more than the product itself (and warranty support) is going above and beyond.
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Samsung doesn't NEED to do anything... them providing anything more than the product itself (and warranty support) is going above and beyond.
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They need to do it if they want to keep sales where they're at now.
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They need to do it if they want to keep sales where they're at now.
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Agree with this. People are becoming more tech savvy each day, and even my dad wants ICS/JB on his phone. He is 50, but he readed on the net about the update, saw some videos and know he is looking to buy a new phone shipped with ICS that will receive the update to JB. I told him that he should buy a phone with good dev support in case he decides to root and flash rom (had to explain what that was, but he got it pretty fast). He agreed
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Agree with this. People are becoming more tech savvy each day, and even my dad wants ICS/JB on his phone. He is 50, but he readed on the net about the update, saw some videos and know he is looking to buy a new phone shipped with ICS that will receive the update to JB. I told him that he should buy a phone with good dev support in case he decides to root and flash rom (had to explain what that was, but he got it pretty fast). He agreed
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So true. One of my co-workers was a staunch Blackberry fan; when his phone tanked and he went back to our telecoms provider (the S3 had just been released), he convinced them to upgrade him to an S3 instead of replacing the dead BB with another one. Now he's complaining about the JB update taking so long, etc. , and he can't wait for his warranty to run out so he can root... lol
Even my friends who mostly go for iPhones where I am (so many of them it's ridiculous) are on average more tech savvy than I usually think, but the people with Android phones more often want to learn about rooting and roming and they come to me for that and I always lead them here. So it isn't just the tech geeks now.
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They need to do it if they want to keep sales where they're at now.
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thats the thing... they don't NEED to do anything but provide the hardware and warranty. it doesn't matter to them, as a large corporation, if people mod the phones or not. people will still buy the hardware.
the relatively few of us that want the full support are nowhere near the amount of people that just don't care... which is exactly why (it makes me feel dirty saying it) apple can get away with phones that are nothing more than functioning paperweights compared to what we do with out phones. the masses dictate the sales, not us as a small group (in comparison).
samsung will just come out with a better version of TW to try and get people to not want full support, thats a better business model for them when you think about their users as a whole.
it's business 101, do whats best for the masses, not the few.
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it's business 101, do whats best for the masses, not the few.
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I would say its "Marketing 101", and the term you might be looking for is Niche Market.
Wikipedia said:
A niche market is the subset of the market on which a specific product is focusing. So the market niche defines the specific product features aimed at satisfying specific market needs, as well as the price range, production quality and the demographics that is intended to impact.
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Doesn't matter which business model they follow, it isn't hard to publish documentation. We aren't asking them to dev for us, just release the damn information so our devs can do what they do easier and better!
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A number of blogs/tech sites are saying invitations have been sent out for a "Google Play" event in New York tomorrow (24th October) at 19.00hrs local time (0:00hrs 25th October BST (UK time)). That part seems to be definite.
Tech Radar say that they were told by Google it was just a meet & greet event, so no launches. But what some others are saying is that Kitkat 4.4, Nexus 5 & Nexus 10 2 might be launched at this event. Kitkat I think is an outside possibility, Nexus 5 & Nexus 10 2 not so much.
So far we have only rumours/speculation as to when these products (& OS) might be launched. I'm not stating this as gospel. But I thought it worth posting just in case even if it is only for Kitkat. And people would at least be forewarned in case they live stream it.
http://www.hngn.com/articles/15363/...xus-10-2-made-by-asus-to-debut-october-24.htm
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PS Not that I am desperate for them to release the Nexus 10 2 or anything.
I think it's been confirmed that it's not for those devices.
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Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
A number of blogs/tech sites are saying invitations have been sent out for a "Google Play" event in New York tomorrow (24th October) at 19.00hrs local time (0:00hrs 25th October BST (UK time)). That part seems to be definite.
Tech Radar say that they were told by Google it was just a meet & greet event, so no launches. But what some others are saying is that Kitkat 4.4, Nexus 5 & Nexus 10 2 might be launched at this event. Kitkat I think is an outside possibility, Nexus 5 & Nexus 10 2 not so much.
So far we have only rumours/speculation as to when these products (& OS) might be launched. I'm not stating this as gospel. But I thought it worth posting just in case even if it is only for Kitkat. And people would at least be forewarned in case they live stream it.
http://www.hngn.com/articles/15363/...xus-10-2-made-by-asus-to-debut-october-24.htm
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PS Not that I am desperate for them to release the Nexus 10 2 or anything.
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Sorry but these websites (IBTimes, Christian Post, etc) it's referring to are little better than a webcrawler putting together information that looks kind of like an article. They frequently just make up random crap to get clicks for their site and vicariously, ads. I would wait for a site such as android central or droid life to make some kind of announcement. As of right now, all official information is that the event will feature no news at all, and is just a small get together.
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Sorry but these websites (IBTimes, Christian Post, etc) it's referring to are little better than a webcrawler putting together information that looks kind of like an article. They frequently just make up random crap to get clicks for their site and vicariously, ads. I would wait for a site such as android central or droid life to make some kind of announcement. As of right now, all official information is that the event will feature no news at all, and is just a small get together.
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I have freely admitted in the OP that I am clutching to the shortest of straws. And stated that I think it unlikely. However clutch I will. Even if we just get some more info on Kitkat I'm interested.
Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
I have freely admitted in the OP that I am clutching to the shortest of straws. And stated that I think it unlikely. However clutch I will. Even if we just get some more info on Kitkat I'm interested.
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Oh there's nothing wrong with that. I'm doing the same thing. I wish they'd turn around and say "psych! Everything will will be there! But I don't see them doing that.
Now that Apple has released the iPad Air, it puts them on the defensive end though. The more time that passes, the more likely people will overlook the Nexus 10. I'm not entirely sure Google cares though. They've already infiltrated the Apple ecosystem with most of their apps. Google's strategy is certainly one of slow, constant persistence. These tablets and phones are a kickback to people who support them I think, not a direct competitor with any other brands tablets. That's how it seems to me anyways.
Hopefully they don't keep us waiting too long. I sold the N10 in anticipation for this, and I've been waiting patiently for a while now. Come on Google.... don't wander into the world of Valve time....
We;; is 8:38 and no news about the event. It hasn't been streamed on youtube like other times and thers no updated blog about it either. Also theres been lots of errors with google services today? Coincidence? or could they have had some issues? Hopefully we'll know what went on in the conference by tomorrow but it most likely wan't any of the devices since it wasn't public.
Very suspicious that we've heard nothing I think.
I wonder if they did something huge and its all under embargo until a certain time?
Its quite odd to not hear anything from any of the major tech sites.
prb304 said:
Very suspicious that we've heard nothing I think.
I wonder if they did something huge and its all under embargo until a certain time?
Its quite odd to not hear anything from any of the major tech sites.
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One of the "friends" that were invited made it sound like all they did was hang out with a bunch of other Google employees according to an article I read but why would they send out invites for that. I agree with u and I think they're planning something big and bribing the sites to stay quiet
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prb304 said:
Very suspicious that we've heard nothing I think.
I wonder if they did something huge and its all under embargo until a certain time?
Its quite odd to not hear anything from any of the major tech sites.
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abdel12345 said:
One of the "friends" that were invited made it sound like all they did was hang out with a bunch of other Google employees according to an article I read but why would they send out invites for that. I agree with u and I think they're planning something big and bribing the sites to stay quiet
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I think you might both be being sarcastic.
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P.S I have just let go of that very short straw I was holding. No Nexus 10 2 clues. No Kitkat insights..... Woe is me.
Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
I think you might both be being sarcastic.
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Mrs Hedgehog
P.S I have just let go of that very short straw I was holding. No Nexus 10 2 clues. No Kitkat insights..... Woe is me.
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I was being 100% serious!
prb304 said:
I was being 100% serious!
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Ignore me I'm paronoid (& was 1/2 joking any way). Seen this....... curiouser & curiouser. http://www.geekosystem.com/google-play/
I didn’t break an NDA. The Google Play team didn’t think I would react the way I did when I got the invitation, and neglected to include some kind of note asking me not to share it.
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a lot of speculators figured that Google engineered all of this on purpose to generate buzz in anticipation for their actual release event three days from now.
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And some sites are saying it'll be the 31st of November not the 28th.
Rock-&-Roll-Hedgehog said:
I think you might both be being sarcastic.
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Mrs Hedgehog
P.S I have just let go of that very short straw I was holding. No Nexus 10 2 clues. No Kitkat insights..... Woe is me.
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Lol me too i was serious. I actually read an article that said that and their argument was pretty good so i went with it
prb304 said:
I was being 100% serious!
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*Note: This is a multiple choice poll*
Did anyone expect the development cycle to take so long for a public release?
Where is the dedicated hardware?
Have they changed too much from the original UX promised?
Since Ubuntu Touch was announced many things have changed and many, many months have gone by. How many version updates for Android and iOS? Firefox OS made it to market, Jolla's Sailfish made it to market, Samsung dithering around with Tizen is the only thing taking longer than Ubuntu Touch. Heck, OpenMobile finally delivered an Android Compatibility Layer for HP Touchpad running webOS for crying out loud. And Nokia released an Android phone; so Hell has already Frozen Over!!!!!
What gives?
How do you people feel about the loooooong wait for maturity of this OS?
I first tried and got excited about when I had a nexus 4. Which I sold as soon as the nexus 5 came out. I pledge for a couple Ubuntu edges. Remember that?! It seemed like they were on track to release something in a decent timeframe.
I would still put money down to try out a phone released with Ubuntu touch if it has great hardware.
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One last question.
Does this poll have too many choices?
Seriously though, you might want to read this.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Does this poll have too many choices?
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*shrug* How many polls do you see on forums where respondents complain about too few choices? I merely tried to estimate the possible moods engendered by the question.
ramjet73 said:
Seriously though, you might want to read this.
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Read it when it came out. Read all the tech press, blog post, forum thread, official wiki stuff. Scoured the web. Flashed and flashed and flashed and flashed and flashed and finally was able to update and update and update and update and update...
The point is - Doesn't matter how many people say 's'wonderful, 's'marvelous IF IT NEVER MAKES IT TO MARKET in almost 18 months. People walk away. There is patience and refining. Then again there is just fiddling along and wasting people's time.
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The point is - Doesn't matter how many people say 's'wonderful, 's'marvelous IF IT NEVER MAKES IT TO MARKET in almost 18 months. People walk away. There is patience and refining. Then again there is just fiddling along and wasting people's time.
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It sounds like you've already made up your mind. I just leave it installed on my Nexus 4 and start it up every couple of days to check for updates and review the progress.
I'm sure some phone manufacturer will put their toe in the water sometime soon, and as long as Canonical continues to support the Nexus models that's a pretty good base for potential users. End users will choose Ubuntu Touch because it came with their device or they like the capabilities and won't be concerned about its history.
ramjet73
Um... ramjet? Looks like you didn't vote?
All respondents voted yes, in some way, that it took too long... Maybe you should put in the first "no" vote?
RumoredNow said:
Um... ramjet? Looks like you didn't vote?
All respondents voted yes, in some way, that it took too long... Maybe you should put in the first "no" vote?
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You got it, although my preferred response would probably have been more like "No - It's not dead yet so let's see what happens", but please don't add it.
LOL.
ramjet73
no...but
Since none of the multiple choice answers accurately reflect my opinion, I'll give my own. No, canonical didn't wait to long, but they should focus on developing a kernel that supports hardware for a wider variety of mobile devices, a unified bootloader for smart phones and tablets, and usb installation.
qunungnauraq said:
Since none of the multiple choice answers accurately reflect my opinion, I'll give my own. No, canonical didn't wait to long, but they should focus on developing a kernel that supports hardware for a wider variety of mobile devices, a unified bootloader for smart phones and tablets, and usb installation.
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I'd put that as a "No - I still have faith, a public release is close."
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I'd put that as a "No - I still have faith, a public release is close."
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It is just that I don't believe in faith, and I don't know for sure if a public release is close. But nevertheless, If a release comes out I'll definitely try it. Better late than never.