I have TWRP 2.0 on my Evo 3D. I'm new to rooting and have yet to use CWM recovery. Can anyone explain what is the difference and why it would be better to use one over the other. I do really like the touch interface of TWRP. Thanks.
At this point it's more of personal preference than features.
I'm also on TWRP 2.0 and if it ain't broke, I'm not fixin' it.
What freeza said. I personally, had issues with TWRP2 & went back to TWRP 1. CWM works well too but not the touch version from what i hear (havent tried it yet)
freeza said:
At this point it's more of personal preference than features.
I'm also on TWRP 2.0 and if it ain't broke, I'm not fixin' it.
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Thanks. I haven't had any problems with TWRP at all so maybe I'll stick with it. Just didn't know if there were features in CWM that I was missing.
as long as it wipes & flashes everything right, i'd stick with what you got.
TWRP all the way. No issues so far.
I like twrp so far had both and twrp is real nice imo.
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freeza said:
At this point it's more of personal preference than features.
I'm also on TWRP 2.0 and if it ain't broke, I'm not fixin' it.
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this is pretty much how i am.
and i have never had a problem with either one so i can't really say. i was on CWM when i first rooted back in july, switched to the updated TWRP (not touch) and only did it because it had features that i thought would make using recovery a little more convenient like flashing multiple zips at once, etc, and because scott was nice enough to zip it up for us to flash through boot loader. quick and painless for us 1.4 users.
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I'm Hboot 1.5 and liked the CWM touch and the fact that its integrated into Rom Manager, but I also like the TWRP and the ability to pick as many zips as I want before flashing. Add FlashImageGUI.apk to either of these and I no longer care about s-off. My vote is for TWRP
I like twrp 2.0 because its touch screen controlled and it does everything faster.
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I like twrp 2.0 because its touch screen controlled and it does everything faster.
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thats for sure!! last time i tryed cwm i thought something was wrong when i was flashing stuff because it took sooo long.. twrp is much faster i think..
does twrp have the charging bug ?
I think it is not a matter of which is best, but some devs install scripts will not work for CMW touch or TWRP 2+. I use TWRP 1.1.1 but recommend asking the dev what he uses.
i just tryed twrp 1.1.1 and every time i try and flash a kernel it wont let me??? thats why i always come back to twrp 2.0..
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Hey! im installing my first ROM and my friend had already done it to his phone but the first time he did it he bricked it.
He told me to be carefull on which clockworkmod recovery to choose and to make sure that its the one for my phone (LG P500H)
my question is what do i have to do to get clockwork mod on my LG P500H? (Its not in the list of ROM Manager 4.3.1.3)
I've read a lot here and I don't think I'll ever use rom manager. Seem's many have brick their phone or got fastboot.
However I've install AmendRa first from terminal emulator then flash clockworkmod from the recovery previously install. Look in the dev. section of the forum. there's a lot of information regarding recovery. Take your time and read, that's what I did after bricking my 2 weeks old O1. knowledge is the key to succeed without problems. Knowing what could happen by doing this or that is very helpful, it keeps stress away.
good luck and make your homework before doing anything.
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I've read a lot here and I don't think I'll ever use rom manager. Seem's many have brick their phone or got fastboot.
However I've install AmendRa first from terminal emulator then flash clockworkmod from the recovery previously install. Look in the dev. section of the forum. there's a lot of information regarding recovery. Take your time and read, that's what I did after bricking my 2 weeks old O1. knowledge is the key to succeed without problems. Knowing what could happen by doing this or that is very helpful, it keeps stress away.
good luck and make your homework before doing anything.
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Dude, its AmonRa, not AmendRa
And yeah, though Clockwordmod is candy to the eyes, AmonRa is a lot more stable and reliable
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Dude, its AmonRa, not AmendRa
And yeah, though Clockwordmod is candy to the eyes, AmonRa is a lot more stable and reliable
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Oups! Wasn't sure when I type it :-(
Thank for the correction.
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Hey folks,
I just bought the white international SGS II and i'm loving it!
I previously had an Infuse 4g, so I am pretty experienced with flashing/backing up/ restoring...but I have questions/concerns regarding the I9100.
I am about to try out the CM9 Unstable, so I backed my current stock ROM up using CWM Manager 3.0 (I am on CF-Root 5.0) onto my Internal SD, as I do not have an external SD card.
Now, I have had bad experiences with CM7 with Infuse and ended up not being able to restore due to many problems like MD5 mismatch, different CWM version, and problems while restoring ( I think it said something like devblock??)
So I'm pretty worried about not being able to restore back to the backup i just made.
So correct me if I'm wrong folks,
1) Go into CWM, flash CM9(once? twice?), Gapps, Faceunlock,
2) Data wipe/factory reset
3) Reboot
and should I choose to restore back to the stock Rom backup,
just go into CM9's recovery and restore..?
will this method give me problems restoring? will I have different versions of CWM recovery from the one I have currently? Is there any way to check if my back up was made properly?
Thanks a lot folks! Appreciate it!
Edit: "Make sure you're already running ICS bootloader (if not, go to SamMobiles and flash XXKP2 bootloader)". Is this necessary? Cus I have seen some folks say that they've not and was fine installing CM9.
First the procedure:
1. Wipe
2. Install CyanogenMod 9
3. Reboot
4. Install CyanogenMod again
5. Install gapps and face-unlock
Worked for me every time.
Your backups should work unless there were errors while creating them.
If you want some more safety, you can create a new backup after flashing the Siyah-kernel. The latest version uses the same version of ClockWorkMod as CyanogenMod 9.
Whether you need to flash the bootloader or not, depends on whether you already have it or not. I'm running galnet-MIUI and already had the bootloader installed. I don't know how to tell if you have it.
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Ok...
I did further research and found out that Nandroid backup backs up everything EXCEPT the kernel.
I'm pretty sure that CM has its own kernel...but will it be CWM 5.0.2.7(the one i made backup in.)?
If it's not, the correct steps for me to restore my nandroid back up is to
1)boot into download mode from CM9,
2) put the cf-root kernel that i used in the ODIN PDA, flash,
3) turn off phone, reboot into CWM, then restore my nandroid back up right??
Can anyone please confirm this method??
I only have this phone and I cannot risk soft-bricking or hard-bricking this beautiful device.
Thanks in advance!
Also, i made a back up in blue recovery of CWM 5.0.2.7..does that matter?
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First the procedure:
1. Wipe
2. Install CyanogenMod 9
3. Reboot
4. Install CyanogenMod again
5. Install gapps and face-unlock
Worked for me every time.
Your backups should work unless there were errors while creating them.
If you want some more safety, you can create a new backup after flashing the Siyah-kernel. The latest version uses the same version of ClockWorkMod as CyanogenMod 9.
Whether you need to flash the bootloader or not, depends on whether you already have it or not. I'm running galnet-MIUI and already had the bootloader installed. I don't know how to tell if you have it.
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thanks for the reply,
so I must have the ICS bootloaders in order for CM9 to work?
ooo siyah kernel method... that makes it easier! haha thanks so much!
I will proceed to do that!
btw, how is CM9 working for you?
do you think you'll be able to use it as a daily driver now that NITZ is gone??
1. Afaik cwm backs the kernel up and restores it too. (afaik = 99.9% sure, in this case)
2. CyanogenMod ships with its own kernel.
3. The kernel is not cwm. ClockWorkMod is just the recovery that is integrated into the kernel. CyanogenMod 9 has cwm-recovery 5.5 (Siyah too btw)
4. You don't need to use download-mode to restore.
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You must have ICS-bootleggers. He did not say that for fun xD.
Is it suitable as daily driver for me?
Nope.avi
Why?
Accelerometer is unresponsive, so it takes forever to flip your screen.
Battery drainage is horrible.
Camera isn't working properly.
And the biggest no-go for me:
The device gets way to hot when using it.
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You must have ICS-bootleggers. He did not say that for fun xD.
Is it suitable as daily driver for me?
Nope.avi
Why?
Accelerometer is unresponsive, so it takes forever to flip your screen.
Battery drainage is horrible.
Camera isn't working properly.
And the biggest no-go for me:
The device gets way to hot when using it.
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alright,
thanks for the information!
I'll flash the Siyah kernel
Btw,
Flashing CM9 Zip does not flash the ICS bootloader right?
so then if I want to restore to my GB 2.3.5, would I need to flash GB bootloaders before restoring via Odin??
If the zip would flash the loaders, he wouldn't have mentioned it.
They're backwards-compatible.
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If you need to make a post in the Q&A forums about flashing CM9, then you are definitely not the sort of person who should be flashing it. It is in very much a beta stage and there is a very high possibility it will **** your phone up even if you have done nothing wrong. If that happens you need to be the sort of person with enough experience to solve the problem by themselves. If you are asking questions before you've even flashed it then really, it's not for you. Use CM7, at the moment it's better than CM9 in every single way.
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If you need to make a post in the Q&A forums about flashing CM9, then you are definitely not the sort of person who should be flashing it. It is in very much a beta stage and there is a very high possibility it will **** your phone up even if you have done nothing wrong. If that happens you need to be the sort of person with enough experience to solve the problem by themselves. If you are asking questions before you've even flashed it then really, it's not for you. Use CM7, at the moment it's better than CM9 in every single way.
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It's not thaaaaaaaaat bad. I mean, he won't be able to brick the device through cwm.
If he doesn't ask, he will never learn and it's always better to ask twice than to break something.
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Thank you sniper =) really appreciate the support.
Ive been flashing and restoring before with my infuse 4g. Just sometimes ran into problems with restoring with diff CWM versions and stuff. This phone is very precious(expensive) so i thought i would learn it for sure before i attempted anything.. thanks anyways for sharing your opinion!
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It's not thaaaaaaaaat bad. I mean, he won't be able to brick the device through cwm.
If he doesn't ask, he will never learn and it's always better to ask twice than to break something.
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I couldnt agree more... i think people here on XDA need to stop trying to be all hot **** saying Oh you asked a question your a noob... in reality most ppl here want to ask the same question but dont because afraid of getting *****ed out... and when someone else asks... try to be badass and put the person down...
Iv used a Galaxy S and a Moto Atrix and now a S2... flashed the life out of each phone along with all kinds of stuff and mods... yet i would have wanted to ask these same questions before flashing hence googled and found this thread... So thanks to those that replied as well... i was about to flash ics till i read this and guess imma hold back now even more...
But again i think people here need to calm the hell down... a person asks a question in the thread and you call them a 'noob' and what not... a person asks a question in the Q&A section and again you tell them off... stop being such anal retentive trolls...
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I couldnt agree more... i think people here on XDA need to stop trying to be all hot **** saying Oh you asked a question your a noob... in reality most ppl here want to ask the same question but dont because afraid of getting *****ed out... and when someone else asks... try to be badass and put the person down...
Iv used a Galaxy S and a Moto Atrix and now a S2... flashed the life out of each phone along with all kinds of stuff and mods... yet i would have wanted to ask these same questions before flashing hence googled and found this thread... So thanks to those that replied as well... i was about to flash ics till i read this and guess imma hold back now even more...
But again i think people here need to calm the hell down... a person asks a question in the thread and you call them a 'noob' and what not... a person asks a question in the Q&A section and again you tell them off... stop being such anal retentive trolls...
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Most people should not flame some one as long as they show they have at least tried to look for an answer first. Yes we were all new at one time but we all learned.
Like you said you Googled and found your answer. Not that hard.
Think it's bad now. Should have seen it a few years ago. Lol clutter up the threads with questions that the answers were found with a search. You got warned. Do it twice and you went on vacation for a few days to learn how to search. So the next time you think people are being too hard. Remember it is not as hlbad as it was.
When I search for the answer, I ended up here.
are these considered ICS bootloaders? If not, when would you flash them, because they are completely unmentioned in any of the instructions or FAQs
CWM flashable Modems:
XXKP8 Modem: http://www.multiupload.com/64J2P1MZL6
XXKP4 Modem: http://www.multiupload.com/NYUYFOT1ST
Koush is giving the world access to his buildbot to test out the new version of CWM. So I decided to give it a whirl. Offers incremental backups making them much smaller and faster.
This is for ICS ROMS only
*please note that I know that I am NOT a real dev. I just figured out how to run his buildbot and got it working on my phone.
Build Details
Download Recovery
*usual disclaimer that I am not responsible for you bricking your phone*
To install
1. Download file to your computer
2. In command line, navigate to the folder you have the recovery
3. Reboot phone into fastboot
4. "fastboot flash recovery recovery-CWM-6.0.0.0-ruby.img"
5. "fastboot reboot"
6. Reboot Phone into recovery as normal
Anyone test it as yet other than you? Would be cool to see this in action, good post, many of those who wanted CWM will love you for it, lol.
As far as I could tel I was the first to build a ruby version. I just pulled the 5.0.2.8 CWM and used that as a base and had it build a touch version. I tried getting it to use the stock recovery but the only one I could find was from the all-in-one toolkit and it built, but the recovery had trouble mounting points so I didn't upload it here.
I've always been a fan of CWM but that's prolly mostly because that's what I familiar with. I've used it since my G1.
So it can flash kernels???
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It was built off of 5.0.2.8 so I would have to guess that you would have to be S-OFF to flash kernels. I am S-OFF and am the only one I know of running it.
Why is it only able to flash ics roms?
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As far as I could tel I was the first to build a ruby version. I just pulled the 5.0.2.8 CWM and used that as a base and had it build a touch version. I tried getting it to use the stock recovery but the only one I could find was from the all-in-one toolkit and it built, but the recovery had trouble mounting points so I didn't upload it here.
I've always been a fan of CWM but that's prolly mostly because that's what I familiar with. I've used it since my G1.
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I'm confused. Didn't Xboarder56 put out a cwm touch 5.0.8.9 version back in march? What's the difference between this version and his?
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I'm confused. Didn't Xboarder56 put out a cwm touch 5.0.8.9 version back in march? What's the difference between this version and his?
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This is based off of Koush's new 6.0 CWM. It has incremental backups instead of the doing the entire ROM each time. That is the biggest advantage to me.
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Why is it only able to flash ics roms?
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Just going by the CEM site here. It states that the touch version only works on with ICS ROMS
Can we flash this thru Odin?
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Can we flash this thru Odin?
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You are in the wrong section of the wrong device of the wrong manufacture. This is for the HTC amaze. HTC does not use odin
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rymenigmatic said:
Can we flash this thru Odin?
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Are you serious?
rymenigmatic said:
Can we flash this thru Odin?
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Yes you can, it's actually the only way you can flash this now.
phoenix79 said:
Koush is giving the world access to his buildbot to test out the new version of CWM. So I decided to give it a whirl. Offers incremental backups making them much smaller and faster.
This is for ICS ROMS only
*please note that I know that I am NOT a real dev. I just figured out how to run his buildbot and got it working on my phone.
Build Details
Download Recovery
*usual disclaimer that I am not responsible for you bricking your phone*
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Are there any screenshots?
FINALLY, A FRICKING RECOVERY THAT JUST WORKS.
Jesus, I tried every recovery I could find.
I'm not mentally impaired, so I do understand (and preffer) to use fastboot, and all other recoveries either required a download of an app to do the work for you or they just plain wouldn't boot (I'm looking at you, EXT4 touch binary...)
Plus it's well documented and it's a real developer friendly recovery, not so user oriented. I love it.
jubeh said:
FINALLY, A FRICKING RECOVERY THAT JUST WORKS.
Jesus, I tried every recovery I could find.
I'm not mentally impaired, so I do understand (and preffer) to use fastboot, and all other recoveries either required a download of an app to do the work for you or they just plain wouldn't boot (I'm looking at you, EXT4 touch binary...)
Plus it's well documented and it's a real developer friendly recovery, not so user oriented. I love it.
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or you can just flash the 4EXT recovery image from my toolkit. That is another way. 4EXT wants the app installed so it can tell you about updates and let it update by itself.
jubeh said:
FINALLY, A FRICKING RECOVERY THAT JUST WORKS.
Jesus, I tried every recovery I could find.
I'm not mentally impaired, so I do understand (and preffer) to use fastboot, and all other recoveries either required a download of an app to do the work for you or they just plain wouldn't boot (I'm looking at you, EXT4 touch binary...)
Plus it's well documented and it's a real developer friendly recovery, not so user oriented. I love it.
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Troll I assume?
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ok help?
so my question is does this allow the install of kernels with a rom not separately? Next question is if im rooted with s-off and a locked boot loader can i install this by recovery like along time ago.
what's the difference between them?
what's the effect of it on my phone?
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weigeloveu1 said:
what's the difference between them?
what's the effect of it on my phone?
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ClockworkRecoveryMod is more compatible with ROMs and mods that they post on XDA. TWRP, I think that is the other recovery you are talking about, has a better UI and seems to have more functionality over CWR but sometimes, ROMs and Mods need to be patched from .zip's written for CWR. Hope this helps. This is just a general way of looking at it. I'm sure there is more info elsewhere. Oh, also, CWR is like the OG of recovery mods, and TWRP is like the other G but not the OG. Haha, and effects? Not sure what you mean by that but both do about the same thing.
Sense 5 DNA
paulxpaul said:
ClockworkRecoveryMod is more compatible with ROMs and mods that they post on XDA. TWRP, I think that is the other recovery you are talking about, has a better UI and seems to have more functionality over CWR but sometimes, ROMs and Mods need to be patched from .zip's written for CWR. Hope this helps. This is just a general way of looking at it. I'm sure there is more info elsewhere. Oh, also, CWR is like the OG of recovery mods, and TWRP is like the other G but not the OG. Haha, and effects? Not sure what you mean by that but both do about the same thing.
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Both twrp and cwr can pretty much flash the same things.
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For me the main difference is the ability to name and rename backups that TWRP has. You can't really go wrong, they're both REALLY nice recoveries on the DNA.
I use TWRP but have used CWM too, both devs are really active in recovery development and very qualified. My previous device, I would have told you one specific recovery you had to use until recently. There was one kind of recovery that just always worked and the others didn't.
That's not at all the case with the DNA, both recoveries available are excellent. I just happen to prefer TWRP because of the layout, the way you can check the partitions you want to wipe and then swipe to confirm and get em all at once. And it also lets you queues multiple zip files and when you press install it will do them all at once. And TWRP has some beautiful themes if that's important to you. I dont often theme recovery though because the stock one looks just fine.
does cm 10.1 require clockworkmod? it might not be the case anymore but i thought you needed clockworkmod auto update with cm?
TWRP is better : actual touchscreen support, great backups(compressable to save space) lots of options, good interface, allows "ota" style rom updates through goomanager
Which is better and why please. TIA.
pego99 said:
Which is better and why please. TIA.
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In my opinion TWRP is feature rich while CWM is much more straight forward.
Just my 2 Cents
Samckaz said:
In my opinion TWRP is feature rich while CWM is much more straight forward.
Just my 2 Cents
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+1
i found TWRP to be easier to use. i tried to use CWM a few times, but was getting some errors...probably because i didn't have the latest version of it or something. so i was told to try out TWRP, and i never looked back. it had Loki built in and it has a great layout of all the necessary functions.
i'm sure both function fine though.
pego99 said:
Which is better and why please. TIA.
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That is entirely personal opinion. Both can do all the same stuff and get the job done. I myself prefer TWRP but it is not because it is better, I just like the UI and theme better, built in keyboard and file manager are also nice.
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I had CWM for a good while but once TWRP came out there was no turning back.
hlxanthus said:
That is entirely personal opinion. Both can do all the same stuff and get the job done. I myself prefer TWRP but it is not because it is better, I just like the UI and theme better, built in keyboard and file manager are also nice.
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+1. It's a personal preference. Neither is better. Don't you guys read the rules on best threads?
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I prefer twrp 2.5.0.2 . I'm not a fan of the controls and menu layout in cwm.
Twrp 2.5.0.3 isn't as stable as 2.5.0.2 in my experience however. There is a flashable zip for .2 in the twrp thread for those who want to "downgrade"
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They are both great recoveries. I love the fact you can mass wipe dalvic cache, system, data, and cache in one swipe using TWRP, but I have to use CWM to flash Hyperdrive.
Another vote for TWRP here. Backups are much smaller compared to CWM as well.
Twrp has worked flawlessly for me
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I have the shabbypenguin-oudhs cwm recovery that auto lokis whatever you flash. Does the twrp do that also? I've read some posts that sound like it does but haven't found a real answer.
persom55 said:
I have the shabbypenguin-oudhs cwm recovery that auto lokis whatever you flash. Does the twrp do that also? I've read some posts that sound like it does but haven't found a real answer.
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No, but it isn't necessary. Have you seen a single kernel or recovery that's been posted and wasn't already loki'd?
TWRP is what I started using on my TF700T, simple to use and never had an issue with it. That's what I stick with.
cmw definitely for people recently learned flashing
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I have to say for me my phone likes twrp. Havent had any issuse on my end
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have you ever?
persom55 said:
I have the shabbypenguin-oudhs cwm recovery that auto lokis whatever you flash. Does the twrp do that also? I've read some posts that sound like it does but haven't found a real answer.
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Changed the name of your nandroids using shabbys recovery? I was just thinking about that but I didnt want to mess any of my nands up .Im thinking of going back to twrp but idk .
Twrp supports extFAT and my 64 GB sdcard.
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I don't use either one. I have found my S4 runs very fast using PhilZ Touch Recovery. It is touch base and supports exFat and ext4. When it does a wipe it wipes the System also.
Another for TWRP. Coming from the Bionic and having safestrap 3.05 and then 3.11 it was based on TWRP 2.2.2.1 or something if i recall correctly. A friend uses CWM on his GS2 Skyrocket and thought I'd have to use it but now he's also on TWRP.
I'm using for all the same reasons, it does everything needed and great UI and built in keyboard. never had a failed anything.