Just saw kholks post on Motodev's forums. He got his dev ed. Razr but the bootloader is still locked....
ETA: Link http://community.developer.motorola.com/t5/Bootloader/Motorola-RAZR-Developers-Edition-Can-t-unlock-the-bootloader/td-p/23102
got556 said:
Just saw kholks post on Motodev's forums. He got his dev ed. Razr but the bootloader is still locked....
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And to note also, "fastboot oem unlock" won't unlock its bootloader!
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And to note also, "fastboot oem unlock" won't unlock its bootloader!
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It just went from motofail to motoFAILLLLLLL
lol motofail
What the actual F*** ?!??? What the hell was the point of the developer edition if the boot loader isn't unlocked straight off?
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What the actual F*** ?!??? What the hell was the point of the developer edition if the boot loader isn't unlocked straight off?
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Exactly...between this and US versions of Razr ICS release date. I'm done with Moto after this Razr is sold...but I'm probably kiddin myself b/c I love the build quality and radios of Moto's phones...but c'mon Moto, you're killin us.
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between this and US versions of Razr ICS release date. I'm done with Moto after this Razr is sold...but I'm probably kiddin myself b/c I love the build quality and radios of Moto's phones...but c'mon Moto, you're killin us.
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Agreed. Audio and build quality is far superior to Samsung and the latest HTC's I have seen add of late. But thus bootloader business is ****ed up and unacceptable you loyal Motorola customers
I think you summed up motorola perfectly: ****ED UP AND UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. I would hope that some google executive is on the ball enough be monitoring threads like this as it is the premier mobile device development site on earth. so please keep that in mind dear google excecutive: ****ED UP AND UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. please also discuss at your next meeting and Change The Behavior. thank you.
Now they say....
"hey guys. We're working on getting the files updated on our website. Stay tuned and thanks for your patience."
Moto and to all it may concern,
We loyal Motorola customers (check my sig if you don't believe my loyalty to Motorola), have been waiting...clinging to our last hopes, that your words bear some weight or meaning to your repeated empty promises.
We were told unlocked bootloaders by the end of 2011, didn't happen and we are well into 2012. We were told ICS soon for our Razrs. CDMA Razrs are looking at the earliest Q3 of 2012 or later. While essentially every other manufacturers flagship phone(s) has or will have some version of Android 4.0. And now..you slap us in the face not once but twice with the Dev Edition Droid Razr.
The first slap was thinking this "Dev Edition" would shut us up, satisfy our hunger for being able to truly develop on the Razr. Then you kick us while we're down by releasing this clusterfuck of an idea all the while STILL LOCKING THE BOOTLOADER. Then when you're called out on it, you have the ****ing balls to say, oops sorry about that guys, we're working on it.
So essentially kholk is holding onto a regular $6-700 Droid Razr with no ****ing warranty what so ever. My middle finger is extended to you Motorola and my pants are dropped just waiting for my "bootloader" to hit the back of your ****ing throats.
If Moto is working on a fix to unlock the RAZR Dev edition bootloader, could that mean the fix could somehow be applied to the regular RAZR? That would be interesting.
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If Moto is working on a fix to unlock the RAZR Dev edition bootloader, could that mean the fix could somehow be applied to the regular RAZR? That would be interesting.
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This is a very good point. What if the fix is something akin to HTC's unlock system for their phones bootloaders? Bare with me because it's been a hot minute since I was on a Motorola phone, but do Motorola phones have to deal with S-Off bullcrap? Because if they were able to provide keys to unlock the bootloader and y'all don't have to deal with S-Off, then wouldn't this be the perfect solution?
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I am hoping that is the case. But here is what I am guessing is really going on.
The phone is like a regular locked down Razr, but the Dev Edition doesn't have the e-fuse chip to lock it. They probably just put the stock files on it. Instead it's locked through some other way, until Moto can make a blurgastic bootloader unlock utility for the Dev Edition.
W/ that said I'm hope I'm very wrong about that guess.
I'm forwarding this thread to Motorola
Xperia x10(Feralabs Rom) After trying all roms it was my Fav.
Now on the RAZR.
I see you Drinking that ¥Hateraid¥
Hi
any progress here??? Because on forums.motorola.com they link to this:
developer.motorola.com/products/bootloader/
and pretend like everything is OK.
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HI @ all.
I love the new MOTO RaZr,
but for the future... i dont know moto releases updates in germany for the razr. (Ice Cream and so on)
So has the Razr an unlocked bootloader or a locked one like Atrix ?
Thanx for answers, this will help my buy decision
It is locked but will be unlocken when motorola releases ICS.
Oh locked? Hmm
when motorola releases ICS...in 2013
I think i choose Galaxy S2 .
THX a lot
Wrong section, reported for move.
Ice Cream Sandwich has been promised for early 2012 both internationally and stateside.
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Ice Cream Sandwich has been promised for early 2012 both internationally and stateside.
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Honeycomb 2.3 was also expected in September 2011 in Europe, but has yet to be released
Motorola does not meet both the promises
at least for the European market
the RAZR is the flagship phone for VZW's holiday season. I doubt they'd even let Moto slip up.
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the RAZR is the flagship phone for VZW's holiday season. I doubt they'd even let Moto slip up.
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Until next week when the Droid 4 comes out.
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except Moto announced that the RAZR would be their focus..
let us hope
Check this for motorola Razr update to ics.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
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except Moto announced that the RAZR would be their focus..
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Yea. Till their next phone comes out.
desmonexus said:
Honeycomb 2.3 was also expected in September 2011 in Europe, but has yet to be released
Motorola does not meet both the promises
at least for the European market
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um, Honeycomb 2.3 huh? I'd love to see that!
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So, as far as moto saying they'll unlock the bootloader, thats one thing, but is anyone working on hacking it to unlock it sooner?? I thought the GSM version ships unlocked?
I got the GSM version and I think it is unlocked
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the RAZR is the flagship phone for VZW's holiday season. I doubt they'd even let Moto slip up.
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I think the galaxy nexus is their flagship phone.
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I think the galaxy nexus is their flagship phone.
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nope. they're hyping the RAZR on their own. google is doing all of the nexus stuff themselves, bar the posterboards in stores. plus the nexus missed black friday which is most of the holiday seasons sales
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nope. they're hyping the RAZR on their own. google is doing all of the nexus stuff themselves, bar the posterboards in stores. plus the nexus missed black friday which is most of the holiday seasons sales
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I dont know it seems like verizon is making a new droid phone that they claim is the best phone on the planet every other month. I bet the razr will be succeeded by another droid soon lol
while that probably is true, it doesn't change the fact that the major part of the holiday season is already over, with the RAZR in the spotlight.
Verizon has advertising subsidized by Motorola to advertise the RAZR.
Google is the ones in charge of promotion for the Nexus, as well as Samsung, and Samsung doesn't subsidize Verizon's advertising, hence very little advertising done for the Nexus by Verizon.
Verizon & Moto have jointly stated that the RAZR is the flagship phone for Motorola until at least mid Q1 2012.
The Droid 4 will not supplant the RAZR in advertising space as a flagship phone, and therefore will not get the same development support as the RAZR will get for the time being.
The locked bootloader, is a Verizon decision, and really, it means next to nothing. I don't understand why it gets all the press, when an AOSP version of ICS will be ported to the RAZR sooner rather than later anyway, and why someone wouldn't want an AOSP version of android over the Motorola official version, really is beyond me.
AOSP (meaning Android Open Source Platform = basic build from the ground up) is a blank slate version anyway. It's much better than a Motorola official version. If you know how to root your phone at all, there's no point in waiting for the Moto official version of ICS with bloatware included.
AOSP's are far superior to these versions.
Also, the locked bootloader does not in anyway hinder the development community, and is not a roadblock to any development on the phone.
Does anyone truly understand what a custom kernel gets you anyway?? To be honest, not much at all these days. I've had custom kernels, and I've had 2nd init ROMS built over standard kernels, and the 2nd init ROMS actually performed as well or better than custom kernels.
A locked bootloader really is a good talking point, but doesn't hinder creative progress.
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Also, the locked bootloader does not in anyway hinder the development community, and is not a roadblock to any development on the phone.
Does anyone truly understand what a custom kernel gets you anyway?? To be honest, not much at all these days. I've had custom kernels, and I've had 2nd init ROMS built over standard kernels, and the 2nd init ROMS actually performed as well or better than custom kernels.
A locked bootloader really is a good talking point, but doesn't hinder creative progress.
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That's a pretty bold statement. Doesn't hinder development at all huh? I think many devs would beg to differ on that one pal.
I'm trying to decided between the Galaxy Nexus and the Droid 4.
I'm assuming Droid4 and RAZR will have the same exact hardware and therefore be pretty much interchangeable ROM wise. Is this correct?
If that is the case I'm heavily leaning toward the Droid 4 but it depends on 2 things.
1. With the "removable back", the battery being accessible without removing glued on case components(just screws)
2. The developer support for the RAZR/Droid4 being sizable despite the locked bootloader.
Thoughts?
The developer support is still growing and I think we will be satisfied in the end. But is not a nexus though.
There are some things happening already, for example someone have been able too boot ICS.
Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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Also the bootloader will be unlocked when Moto releases ICS.
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This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
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This is confirmed officially even on Verizon? If so the Droid 4 wins me over hands down.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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No, I'm sorry didn't think of Veri.
Moto said that they would unlock the bootloader if the operator is okay with it. So it's up to Verizon, and what I have heard they probably won't allow it.
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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After doing some brief research on this, I read that the unlock tool that is released with the ICS update abroad will "probably" allow developers to unlock the Verizon RAZR. Is this actually likely?
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Likely? Probably not, but it might be possible for a dev to reverse engineer or figure it out...
Lots of IFs, but with Safestrap out now and devs working on roms, after we get FXZ or SBF, we will have a great device with lots of options for ROMs.
1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
3. In terms of user base, the one thing that really helped the Razr was the 1 cent Amazon Wireless deal. It was the top phone available on Verizon at the time, so I'm sure that built a good base of users- but maybe not the type of users who develop ROMs.
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1. IIRC, the Droid 4 will also lack a removable battery.
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The Droid 4, there is some question as to whether the phone will have a removable battery or not.
The test units were not sent with the case removal tool that was seen on the spec sheet that was released today.
I haven't seen a new confirmation on the removable battery yet, and Motorola never confirmed anything on this front.
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2. ICS might not be released until May or June. By then the Razr will be an "old" phone, so it might not really take off with developers if it does not build momentum in the next 2-3 months while it is still "new."
-but from the looks of it the development of the Razr seems to be really starting to take off.
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That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
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That is of course IF - and this is a big IF, the Razr's bootloader gets unlocked before that. And judging by what I have seen, it doesn't take that long if the phone is a flagship phone... Correct me if I am wrong
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The boatloader won't get unlocked. You'll see a workaround, like a 2nd-init, or something along those lines, but Verizon won't allow unlocked boatloaders, and Motorola is going to comply with Verizon's desire to keep the boatloader in lockdown.
That won't stop development, and ASOP ROM's which is what Droid Th3ory is working on, an ASOP ICS port.
mhhh but the Atrix have unlocked bootloader, why only that moto have that luck?
Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Atrix is on at&t. The carrier designates whether the boatloader stays locked or not. It isn't moto's decision.
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Except for the Galaxy Nexus...
So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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Very good question. Why don't you ask them? It would be interesting to hear their reply.
Well it looks like dev on this phone is dead!
I mean they have already released ICS 4.0.2 for the vzw GN and we ain't got **** yet!!
Looks like I'm going to have give this phone the wifey and go get me a GN.
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but no dev spt is a bummer!
...What are you talking about. The Nexus shipped with ICS in the first place, of course it got it before we did. And it got 4.0.2 update 2 hours later straight from Google. That has nothing to do with Dev support.
And naturally, since it's a Nexus device, it's gonna get ages more dev support than any other phone. But we are getting places ourselves. DroidTh3ory released RAZRX two days ago. He's working on ICS right now. We got Safestrap 2 days ago. Once we get the FXZ files we're probably going to get like 200x the support we're getting right now. Not to mention the Nexus' hardware which is composed of fantastic innards, but a plastic, easy-to-chip case, normal glass screen with minimal scratch resistance, & a weak radio.
It boggles me how you can say dev support is dead with all of the stuff that's LITERALLY happened in the past two days.
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So vzw allows the GNex unlocked but locks the Moto phones? Why?
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I posted this somewhere else, there's really 2 reasons for this:
1) Google required that the Nexus come "open".
2) In the agreement to carry the phone, essentially Samsung & Google have taken over support for the phone, to the point where the contract, while through Verizon, is actually supported by Google, and therefore they can dictate the bootloader.
That's what I could gather from reading up on how the Nexus came to be a Verizon phone. There were some pretty heavy negotiations here, and Verizon didn't want Sprint to get the phone, and couldn't stand to have another Iphone/Att&t exclusive situation happen again.
Now, for Moto, they are already heavily tied to Verizon, and so they have no leverage for getting their devices to be released as open.
They even were first (I believe) to start saying they wanted open phones, back when the xoom was released. They made a statement that by late 2011 they were going to release all their phones with unlocked bootloaders like the xoom was......that didn't happen because Verizon threatened to pull the phones if they did that.
Verizon even forced HTC to remove it's bootloader unlock tool on the web, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's really not Moto's fault, it's Verizon's, and the Nexus is going to be the way it is because Google has control, not Verizon.
yeah except the nexus ships locked and is unlockable through adb.
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So what you're saying is we'll get a ICS Rom from developers long before any Verizon update to ICS.....right? Because waiting till June is absurd! This phone is just too friggin good to not get some attention......is my opin,anyway....
Hey I was wondering if its possible to run ubuntu or any operating system other than android on the DROID x2
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Until the bootloader gets unlocked nope... But if and when the bootloader gets unlocked then development will hit it off real hard with Ports and so on
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Tachi91 said:
Until the bootloader gets unlocked nope... But if and when the bootloader gets unlocked then development will hit it off real hard with Ports and so on
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I'm beginning to think this will never happen. I've emailed Motorola about this, pretty much calling them out on the so-called announcement months ago about them unlocking the bootloader. I've asked them why it's 2012 and why nothing has happened and no announcements have been made, and all I get back is that they care about ensuring the customers are protected from ruining their phones.
I replied back asking why haven't they sent out an updated statement as to why no bootloaders have been unlocked when they stated they would unlock them, and I haven't heard back from them yet on that one.
So, I think they pretty much reneged on that statement, so don't expect this to happen. The only way it can now (no one will be able to crack the key needed to decrypt the bootloader and kernel) is for some Moto developer to release an unlocked ROM image. That's how it happened on the Motorola Atrix, but it was an accident that the image was leaked and a developer found it by accident. The Cheesecake project has been watching all the updates that have been placed on an internal Motorola server, but lately, nothing new has come up, so it definitely appears that X2 internal development within Motorola has possibly come to a stop.
So, we are at the mercy of Motorola. I don't buy their explanation that it's Verizon because HTC was able to unlock their phones that are on Verizon, so the ball is back in Motorola's court.
Also, if you DO email Motorola about this, do NOT be nasty about it. You need to be civil but to the point. In my first email, I stated that the Droid X2 was my final Motorola device. In my response to their response, I thanked them for responding, but asked why they still haven't come out with a reason as to why they won't unlock the bootloaders after they announced they would. I also reiterated the fact that the X2 was my final Motorola device.
I'm hoping they change their minds, but my gut is telling me otherwise. Therefore, it's time to move on to a different device that has an unlocked bootloader. I also feel that the X2 has been orphaned by Motorola and a lot of developers because of Motorola's lack of support for this device. This makes me feel even more that ICS will not see the light of day on the X2. And the only way the developer community can put ICS on the X2 is if the bootloader and kernel are unlocked. If that doesn't happen, then ICS won't ever come to the X2.
+1.. I feel the same way. Im really hoping for the best & am really grateful for the devs we've had to help make this phone better, but it just seems that its hit its peak of potential without an unlocked bootloader. And with no unlocks in the foreseeable future from Moto, im thinking of moving on myself & making this my last Moto, plus Verizon isn't helping either with their little B.S. charges they keep trying to come up with... I know Sprints not the greatest, but they still have unlimited & the Galaxy S is getting ICS love, plus they'll be getting the Galaxy Nexus as well next month so decisions decisions lol But im grateful for all the great people in this forum & just wish Moto could get on the ball....sorry for the jabberjawwin...
I think I'd try to run winmo on this device if I could, I always wanted an HD2.
Android is just so fragmented, I still haven't found a way to get calendar notifcations to work properly.
You can run Ubuntu and BackTrack as an app. They are purchasable from the marketplace. It requires a few other installs, but it should do what you want.
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I'm really pissed at Moto for locking this bootloader while other manufs go ahead and unlock theirs. Seems we're screwed! I've got a couple days yet before I lose the ability to return this thing and am stuck with a very developer UNfriendly device for the next couple years. What to do? I'm not a huge ROM'er but I definately like to tweak and I don't like to envision everyone getting toys/tweaks/tricks on their HTC's,LG's,Sammys,etc etc while us poor souls on the Moto side get screwed over. I'm on the ledge....pull me off or push me over! Need help deciding...does this thing have a future or in two years will I be BEGGING for a chance to upgrade?
I have a Droid Charge with unlocked bootloader and it still gets no development. I still thoroughly enjoy the phone though. Of the phones on the market, the razr is the one I like best. Moto knows how to make a smooth fast phone with great reception.
If you're a rom junkie, go for the nexus. However if you're patient enough, keep waiting with us till the bootloader gets unlocked and enjoy the full potencial of the Razr.
You should do a side by side comparison of the RAZR next to any other phone... that's what I did before buying my RAZR... I like having a removable SD card and HDMI out... the battery could sway you but I think with the maxx coming out someone will produce an after market cover, after all the battery isn't soldered in like the iphone is... I personally love the quality of Motorola phones... as far as development goes, I wouldn't let the locked bootloader get to you, I had my DroidX for 2 years with a locked bootloader and I still had quite a few roms to flash, doesn't anyone remember 2nd init? I'm sure the RAZR devs will find a way around the stupid bootloader... in the meantime everyone get into operation mosh, and let big red and Motorola know we mean business... I love my RAZR, I personally have a lot of faith in this product, I'm actually looking into learning how to develop for android just because I want to help anyone who takes up the torch to develop for this awesome device
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Nitro is working on Eclipse. Once that gets released, you will be glad you kept the razr.
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Nitro is working on Eclipse. Once that gets released, you will be glad you kept the razr.
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Can I ask what eclipse is? I'm kind of having the same feelings as the OP. I'm looking for a reason to keep my razr, but some of the other devices are calling for me.
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If you're a rom junkie, go for the nexus. However if you're patient enough, keep waiting with us till the bootloader gets unlocked and enjoy the full potencial of the Razr.
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The only thing the locked bootloader prevents different kennels from being used. There are two or three roms out now plus a deodexed or two that you install with the bootstrap.
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I can tell you this. I tried out the Nexus for about a week, and took it back. While I LOVE ICS, the phone itself SUCKS. Esp next to the Razr. Slower, horrible battery life, cheap feel, lackluster camera...I could go on and on. I am pissed off too but it is still the best option out there so far.
Sorry for this extremely newb question. This is my first dabble in the Android world, I've always been an iPhone user since moving from dumb to smart phone.
I've been using the Arctic ROM for last couple of weeks and the latest version makes me never want to go back to the stock Rogers ROM. Now here's the question - given that even without an unlocked bootloader, one can still relatively easily flash a new ROM using CWM, what's this big deal about unlocked bootloader. Also what's special about this ever so elusive custom kernel that has been mentioned?
One of the biggest problems I'm seeing with the locked BL bs is that it appears to be scaring away developers who would rather go the easier route and develop on a unlocked machine. Yea you might get it to work on the Razr but it takes steps A-B-C-D-E and who knows how much more for the devs to get it working as opposed to A and B with a ULBL. Look around...we've got very very little in the way of development or ROMS....
If ROM'ing is really important to you, you really ought to get a GNex. Even if the bootloader does get unlocked (which is up in the air, since Moto's broken that promise in the past), there will be far more development for the GNex.
I got the RAZR for the killer hardware and the smooth user experience. I don't know that I'll ROM this even if they do unlock the bootloader, and I was a ROM junkie on my OG Droid.
ICS is rolling out to the Motorola Xoom tablet this weekend. The RAZR may be only a week or two away from getting ICS with a hardware accelerated GUI. That aside, it's a great phone - terrific reception, loud speakerphone, excellent voice quality. You really want to give up all that?
Oh, and a new thread just broke: The poster says he was contacted by the FCC and they are charging VZW with violations for having a locked bootloader. Hmmm...
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ICS is rolling out to the Motorola Xoom tablet this weekend. The RAZR may be only a week or two away from getting ICS with a hardware accelerated GUI. That aside, it's a great phone - terrific reception, loud speakerphone, excellent voice quality. You really want to give up all that?
Oh, and a new thread just broke: The poster says he was contacted by the FCC and they are charging VZW with violations for having a locked bootloader. Hmmm...
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I pray that you are right. Though I love this phone more than any other phone I've had before (HD2, HD7, Sensation, G2X, Bionic), it's killing me that I can't mess around with it. I paid top dollar for this prostitute. And I want to do whatever I feel like to her, regardless of what her pimp says.
Any word if the ICS update to the Xoom this weekend may have unlocked their bootloader? I know this was the thought and hopes of some for the ICS upgrade coming to the RAZR.
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Any word if the ICS update to the Xoom this weekend may have unlocked their bootloader? I know this was the thought and hopes of some for the ICS upgrade coming to the RAZR.
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Sorry, I have no info on that.
the xoom already had an unlocked bootloader from the last update from what I can tell as on the motodev website, there is a file to relock it if needed
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ICS is rolling out to the Motorola Xoom tablet this weekend. The RAZR may be only a week or two away from getting ICS with a hardware accelerated GUI. That aside, it's a great phone - terrific reception, loud speakerphone, excellent voice quality. You really want to give up all that?
Oh, and a new thread just broke: The poster says he was contacted by the FCC and they are charging VZW with violations for having a locked bootloader. Hmmm...
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That is correct, no BS on my end because I have no reason to make something like that up. I was contacted and it doesnt mean its going to gappen right away.
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I'm really pissed at Moto for locking this bootloader while other manufs go ahead and unlock theirs. Seems we're screwed! I've got a couple days yet before I lose the ability to return this thing and am stuck with a very developer UNfriendly device for the next couple years. What to do? I'm not a huge ROM'er but I definately like to tweak and I don't like to envision everyone getting toys/tweaks/tricks on their HTC's,LG's,Sammys,etc etc while us poor souls on the Moto side get screwed over. I'm on the ledge....pull me off or push me over! Need help deciding...does this thing have a future or in two years will I be BEGGING for a chance to upgrade?
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Best price including shipment to Malaysia?
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-finally-unlocking-bootloaders-for-real-this-time-20120726
1. do yall think this will make it to the dx2/mx2
2. does this make motorola legit now, or is this smoke and mirrors
No because they stated they had no interest in doing it for older phones. =/
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Better read some more. This is only for the Motorola Q (or something like that which is new) and it's for Sprint customers only.
Moto has already stated they have no plans to unlock older phones. As it is, Samsung can't unlock the bootloader on the SG3 on Verizon, so those of us on Verizon, forget it.
iBolski said:
Better read some more. This is only for the Motorola Q (or something like that which is new) and it's for Sprint customers only.
Moto has already stated they have no plans to unlock older phones. As it is, Samsung can't unlock the bootloader on the SG3 on Verizon, so those of us on Verizon, forget it.
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I believe it was the Photon, I had a MotoQ about 3 phones ago, it had winmo on it.
And yeah, pretty much what everybody else said, moto has already forgotten they made the X2, I won't hold my breath.
Everyone here should know that I'm one who has always held out hope that an unlocking of the x2 will happen.
But the fact is, Motorola and vzw will never ALLOW it to be unlocked.
The ONLY way for it to ever get unlocked is for someone to get down and dirty and really break this thing apart, or for a leaked file to be found.
It sucks, my dream is still there, but the rational side of me has all but taken over and hope is almost all lost in my eyes.
Now let's see....maybe I'll flash that atrix sbf to my x2 and restore a vzw nandroid....... hahahahahaha
ashclepdia said:
Everyone here should know that I'm one who has always held out hope that an unlocking of the x2 will happen.
But the fact is, Motorola and vzw will never ALLOW it to be unlocked.
The ONLY way for it to ever get unlocked is for someone to get down and dirty and really break this thing apart, or for a leaked file to be found.
It sucks, my dream is still there, but the rational side of me has all but taken over and hope is almost all lost in my eyes.
Now let's see....maybe I'll flash that atrix sbf to my x2 and restore a vzw nandroid....... hahahahahaha
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im sure they wont unlock any older phones, but if they release a tool there may be hope for some one to use to figure out a way to unlock them. i know its just wishful thinking on my part because i actually love my mx2 now that i have cm9 running on it. just think this give us, ever so small, a sliver of hope.
Older phones not likely at all its not worth it to Motorola to have developers 'waste time' on older phones when there are newer ones to develop. Now if they release a tool there's a possibility that someone may be able to modify it to unlock unsupported phones. I've been messing with MOTO phones for several years and have bricked more than a few by accident. I'll take a look at the bootloader for the mx2 (that's what I have) and see if I can find something. But no guarantees, no doubtably other people with more time knowledge and experience have taken a crack at it. Hence how we know what we do about it.
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Not happening.
Here is a great article and discussion thread on the subject in general.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/0...-and-verizon-allow-you-to-unlock-bootloaders/
Motorola unlocking bootloaders?
Okay...who let Melvin outta jail?
Lol
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ionicone said:
im sure they wont unlock any older phones, but if they release a tool there may be hope for some one to use to figure out a way to unlock them. i know its just wishful thinking on my part because i actually love my mx2 now that i have cm9 running on it. just think this give us, ever so small, a sliver of hope.
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Oh trust me, ill never let my dream fully die, but we have better chances of not even needing an unlocked bootloader b
Via a "bootloader bypass" like kexec along with our 2nd init. That's where the majority of attention should be focused imho
Cuz with kexec working, we can DickSlapMoto all day even with a.locked BL
ashclepdia said:
Motorola unlocking bootloaders?
Okay...who let Melvin outta jail?
Lol
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Oh trust me, ill never let my dream fully die, but we have better chances of not even needing an unlocked bootloader b
Via a "bootloader bypass" like kexec along with our 2nd init. That's where the majority of attention should be focused imho
Cuz with kexec working, we can DickSlapMoto all day even with a.locked BL
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i came from htc where the bootloader was the thing kexec is all new to me so forgive my ignorance.
Any word on X2 bootloader getting unlocked?
Not happening.
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Not for now...maybe later?
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aditneh said:
Not for now...maybe later?
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At one point I had hope that Motorola would do the right thing for us Droid X2 users but I gave up hope and got a GNex instead. Might as well face it, chances of getting struck by lightning are greater than Motorola unlocking it. I'm sure they've already long forgotten they've made this, um, fine device. Right now kexec and DKZ is the DX2's only hope for survival.
If I remember correctly, the X2 was launched last May; so this Nov it will be a year and a half old; doubt Moto will put much effort into it now. I think I'll hold out for the Razr HD, hopefully it will be out by Oct.
redbudga said:
If I remember correctly, the X2 was launched last May; so this Nov it will be a year and a half old; doubt Moto will put much effort into it now. I think I'll hold out for the Razr HD, hopefully it will be out by Oct.
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Verizon is really the problem. Motorola wanted to unlock several devices and big V said no way. The V wants to nickle and dime you for every little feature so they sure don't want you adding any "unauthorized" enhancements. I hear rumors they will soon charge you an extra $10 to access Facebook.
DigitalMD said:
Verizon is really the problem. Motorola wanted to unlock several devices and big V said no way. The V wants to nickle and dime you for every little feature so they sure don't want you adding any "unauthorized" enhancements. I hear rumors they will soon charge you an extra $10 to access Facebook.
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F*** that BS, that would make thousands if not millions of people super angry, I've heard that too, but that would a dumb choice on their end, although this is Verizon we're talking about here...
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Oh, I think you can bet that extra charge is coming in some fashion to a a phone near you. My bet is that the V will follow AT&T and use it as a way to force you off the unlimited data plan into the more costly shared plan. See below.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/tech...ont-charge-extra-facetime-it-kind-will/55915/
Yet another way the iPhone and crapple are going to affect everyone else who don't even use their products. I hope they lose the lawsuit.