How many people use LiveOC over stock OC System - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Who prefers LiveOC over the regular OC system?
Just wondering.
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I prefer to use voltage control and overclock the ol' fashioned way lol...I have played with nstools and live oc, but its more than I really need.

110%, 1320 mhz, stock voltages
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110%, 1320 mhz, stock voltages
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Which governor do you use? GlitchOndemand
Glitchass v2
Conservative
Interactive
Powersave
Performance
Lazy
Smoothass
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i use glitchondemand/ fiops overclocked @ 1500mhz with no undervolt.

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Which governor do you use? GlitchOndemand
Glitchass v2
Conservative
Interactive
Powersave
Performance
Lazy
Smoothass
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Stock..
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droidstyle said:
i use glitchondemand/ fiops overclocked @ 1500mhz with no undervolt.
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No heat?
Is this dangerous? With no overheat, is this dangerous? Are you using this day to day?
Didn't get into oc too much.
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Stock..
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thanks so much
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Enyo. said:
No heat?
Is this dangerous? With no overheat, is this dangerous?
I've never overclocked this high before. Didn't get into oc too much.
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So.. You never tested 1.9 ghz before you released your kang kernel?
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So.. You never tested 1.9 ghz before you released your kang kernel?
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I tested it.
For a day or two.
But using my phone day to day.
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enyo... I have tested with glitch kernel at 1.7 ghz and i currently hold the record benchmark for this device on antutu using performance governor. After testing for a half hour at that speed i fell asleep with the phone stuck at that speed. I'm typing this message with that phone now. That was done with glitch v13. The most i ever got from high clock speeds was freezes and reboots.
However, if you get stupid with live oc the story can be very different.
But to give an idea of what my phone handled back then, go to the cm7 glitch thread and check what the gpu/buss speed was at 1.7ghz. But remember that those bus/cpu speeds, and voltages were finely tuned by tk , and you probably won't be able to push that hard with live oc.
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enyo... I have tested with glitch kernel at 1.7 ghz and i currently hold the record benchmark for this device on antutu using performance governor. After testing for a half hour at that speed i fell asleep with the phone stuck at that speed. I'm typing this message with that phone now. That was done with glitch v13. The most i ever got from high clock speeds was freezes and reboots.
However, if you get stupid with live oc the story can be very different.
But to give an idea of what my phone handled back then, go to the cm7 glitch thread and check what the gpu/buss speed was at 1.7ghz. But remember that those bus/cpu speeds, and voltages were finely tuned by tk , and you probably won't be able to push that hard with live oc.
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So just overclocking, @ 1.5GHz or 1.2GHz and, monitoring the temp, processor will last just as long as it would non overclocked?
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Enyo. said:
So just overclocking, @ 1.5GHz or 1.2GHz and, monitoring the temp, processor will last just as long as it would non overclocked?
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It's all luck. Chance. Fate. If tk has not burned his phone yet i would say you have a lot of catching up to do to get the mileage he has. I had mine overclocked 1.5ghz for a few months.. And guess what, i have never monitored temp. But hey, i pay an extra couple dollars a month on top of insurance for lifetime warrantee. So i think my phone burning up would fall under that. But anyway, your stressing out to much over it.
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It's all luck. Chance. Fate. If tk has not burned his phone yet i would say you have a lot of catching up to do to get the mileage he has. I had mine overclocked 1.5ghz for a few months.. And guess what, i have never monitored temp. But hey, i pay an extra couple dollars a month on top of insurance for lifetime warrantee. So i think my phone burning up would fall under that. But anyway, your stressing out to much over it.
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Thanks so much.
Going to over clock to 1.5, not going to stress about it. Ulcers come like that
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no heat and i use it daily...first time i can ever say this when overclocking to 1500. i agree with neh4pres posts...becareful with live oc it can screw your device up quick. most folks will never see any benifit by using live oc imo anyway. part of the reason why i just use vc...

I actually use 10% live oc and 1200mhz step... All voltages stock. Fully stable and it FLIES
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I must have every bit of speed. That said here's the setup:
ICS AKOP 25 Glitch 14 B5 for 6.0
1200 step with 118 LOC
Glitch OnDemand with some OV and UV. (see pics)

Live OC is the way to go as you get a boost to your GPU and RAM in addition to the usual CPU bump.

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I must have every bit of speed. That said here's the setup:
ICS AKOP 25 Glitch 14 B5 for 6.0
1200 step with 118 LOC
Glitch OnDemand with some OV and UV. (see pics)
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thx a bunch for this nfo. just used ur voltage settings for my device and was able to overclock into the 1300mhz range from the 1200 step. im impressed since last time it was very unstable at 1200 for me.
thx.

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thx a bunch for this nfo. just used ur voltage settings for my device and was able to overclock into the 1300mhz range from the 1200 step. im impressed since last time it was very unstable at 1200 for me.
thx.
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with the devil kernel i have been running 102% loc between 200-1000mhz. on glitch i can oc up to 1500mhz with no loc, soon as i add any loc the device freezes. im guessing my leakage is not dialed in correctly for glitch, also i get a bit nervous playing wit arm voltages.

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with the devil kernel i have been running 102% loc between 200-1000mhz. on glitch i can oc up to 1500mhz with no loc, soon as i add any loc the device freezes. im guessing my leakage is not dialed in correctly for glitch, also i get a bit nervous playing wit arm voltages.
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Try these i have not had a reboot in over a week
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With CM7 Batt = 40°C and CPU=53°C is that too hot

With CM7 my Batt = 40°C and CPU=53°C is that too hot. It happens after about 20 minutes of normal use. I'm on cm7 beta. i'm running everything default, which I believe is 1100 mhz. Let me know what you guys think.
Seems fine to me. I have setcpu set to lower clock speed at 65C, but rarely get to 60C. I see nothing wrong with your temps.
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I think as long as the CPU doesn't go over 60 you're good
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IUH1991 said:
I think as long as the CPU doesn't go over 60 you're good
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That's correct. Its only after you go beyond 60 that you start getting into trouble. You're fine if you're topping out at 53.
The only issue IMO is that above 40 on the battery is that the battery does tend to drain faster...
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After an hour of use or so, I got to 63C on the CPU? What should I do?
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jake.perkinsr said:
After an hour of use or so, I got to 63C on the CPU? What should I do?
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What were you doing on your phone, which kernel do you have installed, and what radio are you using?
I was just randomly doing stuff, including surfing, Netflix etc. my kernel is 2.6.32.39-mb860-cm7-Karanalmod stock cm7 beta and my radio is N_01.77.30 P
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I was just randomly doing stuff, including surfing, Netflix etc. my kernel is 2.6.32.39-mb860-cm7-Karanalmod stock cm7 beta and my radio is N_01.77.30 P
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Hmm, try flashing the enhanced 1.0 GHz kernel and try some undervolting. Overclocking, while resulting in increase speed, leads to more heat production as the CPU is forced to do more work. Simply setting the CPU to 1.0GHz on setcpu won't cut it yet as the app only changes the clock speed for the main core. As the second core is switched on, the CPU reverts back to 1.1 (or whatever the highest speed is).
Where do I get that kernel?
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Look up faux's thread in the dev section

Overclocking

Can someone post all available frequencies(the voltage for lower than 600MHz and how much battery will it take comparing to the lower frequencies, eg 864 takes "x" battery more than 844)
Is there safe to use 864, and does it take to much battery, or not?
Thanks a lot
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frequencies below 600: 122, 245, 320, 480 (all of these use the same voltage)
frequencies above 600: 652, 672, 691, 710, 729, 748, 768, 787, 806 (the difference in battery varies depending on your governor and usage but generally, the higher the frequency the more battery it eats)
stability-wise, the only thing that can go wrong when you oc to 864 is a kernel panic. other than that it should be safe to use. however, in the long run i think it can harm your cpu (and yes it does use a lot of battery)
this is my understanding. if someone does not agree, feel free to point out what you believe is wrong
yep sweetnsour is right ...
All that can be added to what sweetnsour said is that there are three more frequencies over 600: 825, 844 and 864 MHz. But the chances for our CPU to be stable at any frequency above 806 MHz are very low.
Another notable side-effect to the overclock, beside quick battery depleting, is CPU overheating. I found my CPU to be stable at 806, but I went back to 729 just because the phone warmed up so much faster. At 729, I sense no difference compared to 600 MHz.
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All that can be added to what sweetnsour said is that there are three more frequencies over 600: 825, 844 and 864 MHz. But the chances for our CPU to be stable at any frequency above 806 MHz are very low.
Another notable side-effect to the overclock, beside quick battery depleting, is CPU overheating. I found my CPU to be stable at 806, but I went back to 729 just because the phone warmed up so much faster. At 729, I sense no difference compared to 600 MHz.
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Yes a rooted with other tuning needs no oc, but what is thr highest that will not harm anything on a long term...
And does 122-480MHz really have same voltage?
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vlt96 said:
Yes a rooted with other tuning needs no oc, but what is thr highest that will not harm anything on a long term...
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This is highly subjective, no one can tell for sure, except maybe the manufacturer. Buy in theory you should be safe with any frequency at which your CPU is stable and does not overheat. You will sell or trash the phone long before the overclock will affect anything.
And remember: the CPU spends a fairly low amount of time at the high frequency; most of the time it will fall back to the minimum, as long as there are no tasks requiring high processing power.
As far as I could gather in the 10 months I spent on this forum, the community agreed that 729 MHz is the most convenient value.
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This is highly subjective, no one can tell for sure, except maybe the manufacturer. Buy in theory you should be safe with any frequency at which your CPU is stable and does not overheat. You will sell or trash the phone long before the overclock will affect anything.
And remember: the CPU spends a fairly low amount of time at the high frequency; most of the time it will fall back to the minimum, as long as there are no tasks requiring high processing power.
As far as I could gather in the 10 months I spent on this forum, the community agreed that 729 MHz is the most convenient value.
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Yes, 728hz is the best value for performance and battery.
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Yes, 728hz is the best value for performance and battery.
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This flocking app needs thanks button...
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So the perfect is 480--729 SmartassV2 thanks...
Btw is the voltage really the same from 122 to 480?
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vlt96 said:
So the perfect is 480--729 SmartassV2 thanks...
Btw is the voltage really the same from 122 to 480?
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I personally dont use Smartassv2 as it has some wakelock problems, so try different governors and find out which works best for you.
Btw, you are using the wrong kernel for your rom(6.5.8), you should be using fserve kernel or 4 Sept kernel by Franco (.32).
Yaa 480--729 is the perfect.Above 768 phone becomes unstable.
Altamash sayyed said:
Yaa 480--729 is the perfect.Above 768 phone becomes unstable.
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And below 480 is same ****? I mean it won't do anything good to battery right?
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vlt96 said:
And below 480 is same ****? I mean it won't do anything good to battery right?
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Exactly!
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MaKTaiL said:
Exactly!
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Oh ye I got it *cool*
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Hey my is..
806/600 scary
But before 2 months i cant even overclock 768...how now 806??
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becuase governor is scary
Ohh...wen i removed my charger after 10 sec it gaved panic..ithink 768/480 is proper for me...nd can u give me details about the governer plz
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all using Smartass governer??
vj_dustin said:
all using Smartass governer??
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Smartassv2 cuz v1 its like a petformance governor, only at max cpu... v2 goes down when screen off...
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vlt96 said:
Smartassv2 cuz v1 its like a petformance governor, only at max cpu... v2 goes down when screen off...
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No true, smartass also caps when screen off

Overclocking disable 1ghz freq?

Would I get better speed if I disabled 1ghz frequency and left 1.2ghz the default Max frequency?
Would it be faster?
Or slower? Or nothing?
Don't like the 1ghz frequency. But I notice my phone is a little slower when disabling. It.
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I thought you were making a kernel with 1.9 ghz overclock? That should be fast enough
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Kidding, correct?
1.2 > 1.0
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Good to see enyo has found where he belongs in xda. Asking questions and learning.
This is a big improvement enyo.
as to 1.2 feeling slower, your putting a massive undervolt on it. Try backing it off a bit and see if responsiveness comes back. Also, higher clock speeds can lead to better battery in theory by completing tasks faster and allowing the CPU to govern back down to a idle state.
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neh4pres said:
Good to see enyo has found where he belongs in xda. Asking questions and learning.
This is a big improvement enyo.
as to 1.2 feeling slower, your putting a massive undervolt on it. Try backing it off a bit and see if responsiveness comes back. Also, higher clock speeds can lead to better battery in theory by completing tasks faster and allowing the CPU to govern back down to a idle state.
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Thanks. Your right. Backed to -75mV on 1.2ghz and faster response came back.
Also it because really fast after switching to the Medium Leakage.
I rarely let my phone sleep, so 1.2 is the maximum I'll go for speed/battery.
But, the more you UV, you get laggy if its too low, but stable?
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Enyo. said:
Thanks. Your right. Backed to -75mV on 1.2ghz and faster response came back.
Also it because really fast after switching to the Medium Leakage.
I rarely let my phone sleep, so 1.2 is the maximum I'll go for speed/battery.
But, the more you UV, you get laggy if its too low, but stable?
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Honestly -50uv across the board yields the best performance, battery life and reliability.
droidstyle said:
Honestly -50uv across the board yields the best performance, battery life and reliability.
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Is there a advantage if it's undervolted 100+ mV?
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Enyo. said:
Is there a advantage if it's undervolted 100+ mV?
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that would be called overvolting... yes performance may increase, but inturn added heat, less battery life and instability can occur with it.
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that would be called overvolting... yes performance may increase, but inturn added heat, less battery life and instability can occur with it.
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So -50mV is just enough?
I'll do that. Your good with setups of oc/uv.
Seems really stable for me.
Trying Low leakage for better battery. But Medium is perfect right
Now.
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that would be called overvolting... yes performance may increase, but inturn added heat, less battery life and instability can occur with it.
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just tried your setup. And I didn't know how slow my phone was till I used yours. So undervolting to much does slow down your phone. And it Got hot out of no where.
Thanks
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What are you clocked to?

Well what are you over clock preferred settings. Mine are min: 1.024 and Max: 1.92 governor: smartassV2 I/O scheduler: deadline.
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I run 1.22 Max and 245 min. Its bad for the CPU to be clocked the way you are.
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Max 1.4 gHz - Min 250 mHz
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Well what are you over clock preferred settings. Mine are min: 1.024 and Max: 1.92 governor: smartassV2 I/O scheduler: deadline.
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What's your battery life like? And as stated above, that can't be good for the processor.
Excessive heat is the worst thing you can do to a processor.
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ArmyAg08 said:
Max 1.4 gHz - Min 250 mHz
What's your battery life like? And as stated above, that can't be good for the processor.
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Its been pretty bad I guess that's why I just changed to Max 1.408 and min: 368
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jonah1234 said:
Its been pretty bad I guess that's why I just changed to Max 1.408 and min: 368
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Oc really isn't even necessary on liquid ics. You'll never notice the difference if you out it back down to stock.
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Oc really isn't even necessary on liquid ics. You'll never notice the difference if you out it back down to stock.
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How is he overclocking on a ics rom anyways since we dont have kernel source I didnt think we could overclock ics roms yet.
I overclock to 1.2 ghz max and minimum either 245 or 368 mhz.
My battery life is pretty good, I'm running AOKP
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How is he overclocking on a ics rom anyways since we dont have kernel source I didnt think we could overclock ics roms yet.
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The kernel is a modified gb kernel. It has oc capabilities.
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Excessive heat is the worst thing you can do to a processor.
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I've heard that's actually second to voltage.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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I've heard that's actually second to voltage.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Yea I could see voltage being a major issue for a processor. If the voltage is to high it would heat the processor up though. Soooooo..... you're right back to heat being a huge factor.
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What speeds and settings could I safely use to conserve battery?
I'm new to clocking.
I just want long lasting battery life.
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Leave the speeds stock and undervolt. When undervolting don't ever check save for boot or whatever until you are certain those settings won't cause you problems. If you undervolt to low it will reboot your phone. Go to high and it could overheat but I doubt you will need to do that for any reason. I would start with a -50 uv and see if it is stable for a few hours. If you think its good -25 to all for a few more. I usually can't get below -75 across all voltages but every phone is different so some people can go -100.
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Leave the speeds stock and undervolt. When undervolting don't ever check save for boot or whatever until you are certain those settings won't cause you problems. If you undervolt to low it will reboot your phone. Go to high and it could overheat but I doubt you will need to do that for any reason. I would start with a -50 uv and see if it is stable for a few hours. If you think its good -25 to all for a few more. I usually can't get below -75 across all voltages but every phone is different so some people can go -100.
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Can I do this with setcpu?
Or would you recommend a different app?
Because when I started setcpu, it set me on 1036MHz max and 245MHz min. and the governor is set on lagfree, and then the scheduler is set on deadline.
Not really sure what to do here... lol.
Forgive me... like I said, I'm new to clocking.
I haven't touched anything since I started the app.. I was too concerned to.
It's not set on boot yet.
There's also a page for profiles and another for the governor... both of which are have me looking at them as if I were one of the three stooges looking at a supercomputer.
I have no idea what to do.
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Use incredicontrol. It's easier to use and profiles don't help much anyway. I would setup as 1024 max 245 min smartassv2 governor deadline scheduler -50 - -75 undervolt across the board.
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Use incredicontrol. It's easier to use and profiles don't help much anyway. I would setup as 1024 max 245 min smartassv2 governor deadline scheduler -50 - -75 undervolt across the board.
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It's not giving me a 1024 max.
It jumps from 960000MHz to 1036800 MHz max. and then the min. is set to 245760MHz.
Next tab (SVS) has 850 in the box on the right all the way from 24576MHz to 245760MHz. Has 875 in the box beside 368640MHz, then 900 beside 768000MHz and so on.
Are you saying that in those small boxes on the right beside the xxx MHz I should lower that number by 50 all the way down to what I set the max to be?
Say from where it says 850 all the way from 24576MHz to 245760MHz, I should change that 850 to 800? And just -50 from every one all the way up the the MHz that I set as the max?
Wow, I hope I didn't just confuse you.
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What kernel are you using? The CPU and voltage table will vary with kernels.
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I'm running Gingeritis 3D v1.2 and running ziggy's kernel that comes with it.
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I am over locked to 1400 Max and 245min. Gives me nice battery life and great speed. ESP with the new Liquid ICS v.1.5 MR3
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Faux Kernel vs Nightmare Kernel on ViperAmaze

I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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Capgun_Homicide said:
I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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You have to read xda rules again.. Your free to use both of them and see it for your self without asking which is best in public!!
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I'm just curious to see everyone's experience with the Faux kernel as opposed to the one that comes pre-installed.
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I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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SuperAfnan said:
I think they're both great you can't go wrong with either kernel. It's like choosing a lamborgini or ferrari, they're both awesome but it truly comes down to preference.
I think I got better battery with faux 31 but I under clocked and undervolted so I can't do a fair battery life test.
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I've noticed better battery life as well; not majorly, but noticeably. Although I feel it also has a little perfomance drop. Could just be me, though.
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Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Capgun_Homicide said:
Sorry for a question within a question, but what does undervolting/overvolting do? I've only ever tampered with MHz frequencies.
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Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
PS, check out my rom in the development section.
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SuperAfnan said:
Don't worry.
Undervolting is basically adjusting the voltages so the cpu uses less voltage aka electricity. It helps a little but it can make your phone unstable so watch out. Of you undervolt use the system tuner app on the market. You should definitely under clock if you want to save power too. When you undervolt be sure to underclock, and don't do it too low or your phone might freeze! That's why your shouldn't go so extreme on it.
Overvolting is basically adding more voltage to the cpu. There is no point in doing it for our amazes to be honest. It is already a battery hog. I guess it can help if you want to over clock a lot but there is absolutely no point in doing that.
In older legacy phones if you wanted to over clock because the cpu would be so weak, like 600mhz then you would have to overvolt to over clock to like 1ghz if you were lucky. Our devices are 1.5 ghz dual core and sense isn't THAT bad. There's no point in doing overvolt in this phone though.
PS, check out my rom in the development section.
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I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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Capgun_Homicide said:
I just saw it in Venom Tweaks and was curious. The most I underclock to is 1 GHz; cuts down the CPU maximum by a third and doesn't hinder performance to much. What voltage would you recommend at that clock speed?
P.S. I have I plan on flashing it to try it out when I get WiFi access. Trying to cut down data usage since I don't have WiFi at home.
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1ghz is perfect. As for voltage it really varies but I subtract 75 or 50 mv from all voltages.
PS. Oh nice, hope you get wifi soon then.
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