The title says it all.....
I am NOT looking to flash a ROM yet. I want to stick with the stock rom / sense...
Now that I took all the bloatware off.....
What else could / should I do????
Maybe improve battery life?
Maybe tweak settings??
What are some cool things I can do to my cool Amaze...
What do you guys think????? I need ur opinions!!!
mznatnat said:
The title says it all.....
I am NOT looking to flash a ROM yet. I want to stick with the stock rom / sense...
Now that I took all the bloatware off.....
What else could / should I do????
Maybe improve battery life?
Maybe tweak settings??
What are some cool things I can do to my cool Amaze...
What do you guys think????? I need ur opinions!!!
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Lol most of what you ask comes with flashing custom roms and kernels. I guess you can start by exploring root only apps...?
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Try System Tuner (free on the market)
adjust clock speed when the phone is on standby. You will see a significance in battery. Or you can try a different battery app. Explore your options.
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highly recommend titanium backup on the market it's worth the price...you can get rid of bloatware with it too, and back up and and all programs and their data...
the person above is right, system tuner is a good program, but I don't know how it'll do with the stock kernel, if you downclock your phone you might start to see some lag...if you do decide to do that make sure you go to boot settings in system tuner and make sure set cpu on boot completion so everytime your phone restarts you don't have to reset the settings you put in system tuner..
honestly the best way to get a better battery life is don't install a lot of junk and you can also use the program juice defender...
install badass battery program and see what is sucking up the battery...
good luck
glacierguy said:
Lol most of what you ask comes with flashing custom roms and kernels. I guess you can start by exploring root only apps...?
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Thanks .... Ill try it out in about an hour or so.....
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seansk said:
highly recommend titanium backup on the market it's worth the price...you can get rid of bloatware with it too, and back up and and all programs and their data...
the person above is right, system tuner is a good program, but I don't know how it'll do with the stock kernel, if you downclock your phone you might start to see some lag...if you do decide to do that make sure you go to boot settings in system tuner and make sure set cpu on boot completion so everytime your phone restarts you don't have to reset the settings you put in system tuner..
honestly the best way to get a better battery life is don't install a lot of junk and you can also use the program juice defender...
install badass battery program and see what is sucking up the battery...
good luck
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I actually already have titanium backup .... Its a great app.... That's how I removed all my bloatware.....
And thanks ill follow your advice ..... I appreciate it...
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mznatnat said:
the title says it all.....
I am not looking to flash a rom yet. I want to stick with the stock rom / sense...
Now that i took all the bloatware off.....
What else could / should i do???? .................................................................
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status update:
Removed too much when i removed bloatware.... Bluetooth = gone... I effed up!
Should always freeze apps before removing permanently. Did you do a nandroid or titanium backup?
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aaldiar said:
Should always freeze apps before removing permanently. Did you do a nandroid or titanium backup?
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Nope.... I didn't do any of it because like an idiot... I thought I knew what I was doing..... FML!
Hello,
Similar situation here. Rooted my Droid Razr Maxx today to remove the Verizon bloatware. I only did this because they where insisting I update their apps and give them more permissions and I didn't use them either.
I'm not looking to use a custom rom or anything, just wanted to remove those apps. I did use the backup option on each app prior to deleting it.
The Beginners guide suggests I add CWM. Is this really needed for my situation or should I get this setup as well? I won't be loading any roms and plan to stick with the default one. I am fine with it just wanted the bloatware to be gone.
I would've flashed a recovery first. Just because you can make a backup and reflash it just incase something goes wrong. Like removing something you shouldn't have. To each his own. But if the RZR Maxx is anything like the older Moto devices you can use RSD Lite to go back to completely stock. So since this is the HTC Amaze Forum I don't know if that option is available for the RZR. You can navigate yourself to those forums and ask over there.
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hackShack said:
Hello,
Similar situation here. Rooted my Droid Razr Maxx today to remove the Verizon bloatware. I only did this because they where insisting I update their apps and give them more permissions and I didn't use them either.
I'm not looking to use a custom rom or anything, just wanted to remove those apps. I did use the backup option on each app prior to deleting it.
The Beginners guide suggests I add CWM. Is this really needed for my situation or should I get this setup as well? I won't be loading any roms and plan to stick with the default one. I am fine with it just wanted the bloatware to be gone.
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Did you remove your bloatware yet??? Or are you about to?
I used titanium backup to backup the apps before I deleted them.
I haven't used TB in a long time.. But I don't think you can restore system/apps after they are removed. Unless its different now.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
I have the option on the apps I removed to restore them from backup.
I have yesterday flashed ICS first time in my life, rooted it and installed titanium backup Pro (the first time too). Then I uninstalled more than forty precious pre-installed apps what definitely were placed there for my benefit and thriving...
So far everything’s running just perfect. I can’t imaging smartphone can perform better than what I hold and play in my hands. I am so happy again with my amaze.
However, I still have seven apps “frozen” in my TB. I do not understand what to do.
1. Google Backup Transport.
2. Google One Time Init.
3. Google Partner Setup.
4. Maps.
5. PC Synchronization.
6. Location Picker.
7. Network Location.
PLEASE someone who understand the meaning of the aforementioned ones advise me so I would better refrain from removing them too..
Thank You. Merci Beaucoup. Muchas Gracias. Danke.
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jauhien said:
I have yesterday flashed ICS first time in my life, rooted it and installed titanium backup Pro (the first time too). Then I uninstalled more than forty precious pre-installed apps what definitely were placed there for my benefit and thriving...
So far everything’s running just perfect. I can’t imaging smartphone can perform better than what I hold and play in my hands. I am so happy again with my amaze.
However, I still have seven apps “frozen” in my TB. I do not understand what to do.
1. Google Backup Transport.
2. Google One Time Init.
3. Google Partner Setup.
4. Maps.
5. PC Synchronization.
6. Location Picker.
7. Network Location.
PLEASE someone who understand the meaning of the aforementioned ones advise me so I would better refrain from removing them too..
Thank You. Merci Beaucoup. Muchas Gracias. Danke.
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If you ask me, those apps that you have frozen are quite important to your phone. I have to go to work I am late so I'll try to respond in depth tomorrow when I get back.
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Hey All,
I would like to ask anyone who knows how I can properly use Titanium Backup I would really appreciate it. The problem i've had before is that when ever I backup I never seem to know how to properly back up my apps so I can also back up the data like my saved games on angry birds, and my tags on sound hound. If I back up and thn restore I always mess something up and my roms end up all screwed. please some one guide me!!!!
I usually only backup user apps. Press the options button on the bottom left of the vibrant. Then choose batch, then choose backup all user apps.
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I usually only backup user apps. Press the options button on the bottom left of the vibrant. Then choose batch, then choose backup all user apps.
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Like I said though, doing that only backs up the apps but it doesn't back up the data i.e. shazam tags, etc.
ibuddha said:
Hey All,
I would like to ask anyone who knows how I can properly use Titanium Backup I would really appreciate it. The problem i've had before is that when ever I backup I never seem to know how to properly back up my apps so I can also back up the data like my saved games on angry birds, and my tags on sound hound. If I back up and thn restore I always mess something up and my roms end up all screwed. please some one guide me!!!!
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I always select Back up all APP + System data option and that should work
There is a thread on the proper use of Titanium and the best practices, its on my list to find and study today. When I find it I will post and edit.
Don
Edit: I found it in the captivate section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808255
In addition above is some good advice on Rom manager I use both.
Edit2: not much there sorry.... the search goes on.
12paq said:
There is a thread on the proper use of Titanium and the best practices, its on my list to find and study today. When I find it I will post and edit.
Don
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im interested in this too.
the pain of setting everything up again is actually the only thing keeping me from flashing a new rom. (flashed my mytouch so much that i only kept a few apps)
and can the free version do everything the paid version can do?
kboater said:
im interested in this too.
the pain of setting everything up again is actually the only thing keeping me from flashing a new rom. (flashed my mytouch so much that i only kept a few apps)
and can the free version do everything the paid version can do?
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I found the post its an edit link to my post above. It was in the captivate section but it still should be relevant. Good luck!
Edit: not much there sorry.... the search goes on.
12paq said:
I found the post its an edit link to my post above. It was in the captivate section but it still should be relevant. Good luck!
Edit: not much there sorry.... the search goes on.
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thanks alot. I'll look at it now. I hate flashing ROMS sometimes because I don't get my app data. It sucks having to start Angry Birds from leverl 1 every time I flash something!
I use mybackup pro n backup apps. ..gives option to backup apk + data. Has worked well for me. Don't have re -download apps or anything.
I know this doesn't necessarily answer the question but it gives a way to backup apps+data(bookmarks,texts,call log, settings, etc)
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Does it actually work? And if it does, does it save a significant amount of battery?
Ive heard it works and I've heard it doesn't work I dont use it I get about 16 - 20 hours with moderate use using the freeze option in titanium backup pro this belongs in q&a btw
My bad on the Q&A part. But thanks for the help.
willsnews said:
Ive heard it works and I've heard it doesn't work I dont use it I get about 16 - 20 hours with moderate use using the freeze option in titanium backup pro this belongs in q&a btw
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How, using the freeze option in Ti Backup to freeze an app, save your battery?
Some apps don't stop running when you back out of them some system apps run all the time but are not needed freeze them and they won't eat your battery all day long .......longer battery life!
Sorry for the noob question but how do you figuer out which app is running all the time even when its not showing up in the default task manager. I would love to use this feature to get more juice out of my battery.
System panel is an app you can get and see what apps are running in the background and if there not crucial to the system freeze them I would ask someone before freezing anything though cause you could really screw up your phone and have to odin back to stock which isn't that bad just a pain in the ass
willsnews said:
System panel is an app you can get and see what apps are running in the background and if there not crucial to the system freeze them I would ask someone before freezing anything though cause you could really screw up your phone and have to odin back to stock which isn't that bad just a pain in the ass
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Yea I think I will do this...Thanks.
Not to get off topic, but does anyone have a list or recommend common apps to freeze? I see it mentioned a lot and everyone says ask someone before freezing, but I never see examples of what is safe and what is not.
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Freeze drm and samsung apps and media hub and then I freeze whatever apps I don't use cause some apps have core functionally if you freeze them you'll get f/c but I'll try to make a list of things I freeze and post it later
spaternitejr said:
Not to get off topic, but does anyone have a list or recommend common apps to freeze? I see it mentioned a lot and everyone says ask someone before freezing, but I never see examples of what is safe and what is not.
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+1
I'm curious about this as well. Is there a good rule of thumb abou what things are not going to cause problems to freeze?
Now, I freeze the basic stuff, like Allshare, etc. because I don't use them, but I'd like to dig deeper into what services can actually be frozen as well.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8910035&postcount=31
Check this out. It helped me.
hey, to make a long story short since i'm sure you don't wanna have to read a whole page,
this my first Android phone coming from iPhone. I had originally gotten the skyrocket, but after getting throttled the second day and wanting to be able to customize and reading the i777 is the superior device, I decided to swap back to the i777 yesterday.
I had the skyrocket rooted and used titanium backup to backup my apps and system data. so I rooted this phone and tried to restore ask the apps and system data. everything at first looked like a perfect switch, but now I found problems. so far from what I've found, when I try to change ringtones using Android system the phone freezes and then it said that it had to force close.
the purge problem is the alarms, when I try to edit one or create a new one, it freezes again and force closes.
does anyone know a way to make it work while keeping all my apps and not having to start from scratch again? I'd be fine with having to redo all the settings and options if I have to
thanks for any help
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ironkids said:
hey, to make a long story short since i'm sure you don't wanna have to read a whole page,
this my first Android phone coming from iPhone. I had originally gotten the skyrocket, but after getting throttled the second day and wanting to be able to customize and reading the i777 is the superior device, I decided to swap back to the i777 yesterday.
I had the skyrocket rooted and used titanium backup to backup my apps and system data. so I rooted this phone and tried to restore ask the apps and system data. everything at first looked like a perfect switch, but now I found problems. so far from what I've found, when I try to change ringtones using Android system the phone freezes and then it said that it had to force close.
the purge problem is the alarms, when I try to edit one or create a new one, it freezes again and force closes.
does anyone know a way to make it work while keeping all my apps and not having to start from scratch again? I'd be fine with having to redo all the settings and options if I have to
thanks for any help
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TiBu has an option for only "missing apps and data" when restoring - this is the only safe option (in rare cases even it fails, but it's rare).
There's also an experimental "system data migration" option in TiBu that's off by default - I've never used it, and be warned that it may not work at all when trying to change to a completely different device.
ok, so you're saying
instead of doing the "restore apps plus system data", do the "restore missing apps with data"?
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This is exactly the kind of attitude that causes newbies to get flamed. This is NOT the Help Desk. No one is paid to help you in here. We expect you to FIND help for yourself by reading and when no help can be found, THEN post. Laziness is not to be rewarded. Anyone familiar with TiBU knows that you should almost never restore system data with it because it will cause problems except in specific situations. Had you done a little searching and reading you would have likely come across this info as it is well documented in here. Be thankful Entropy took pity on you and gave you the right answer despite your laziness.
ironkids said:
ok, so you're saying
instead of doing the "restore apps plus system data", do the "restore missing apps with data"?
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Yes.
(stupid 10char minimum post limit)
oh ok thanks, and the best way to redo everything is do a factory reset and restore from backup that way? I will still have my root correct?
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and Miami, its attitudes like that that give off a bad presence of forums, I NEVER post on forums unless I can't find anything i'm looking for and in desperate need of knowing what i'm looking for. does that help you out in why I posted?
your attitude reflects on everyone. if you don't like my post and must assume that I haven't searched, then there's no need to post and make yourself look bad.
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ironkids said:
and Miami, its attitudes like that that give off a bad presence of forums, I NEVER post on forums unless I can't find anything i'm looking for and in desperate need of knowing what i'm looking for. does that help you out in why I posted?
your attitude reflects on everyone. if you don't like my post and must assume that I haven't searched, then there's no need to post and make yourself look bad.
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My attitude is fine. TiBU is one of THE most used apps on Android phones and by users in here and if you're saying you searched and did not find an answer about this then I say you're full of it. Like I said, be thankful Entropy helped you out because more often than not he feels the same way about this kind of thing. Redundant threads clog up the forums and it is always better to post to an existing related thread than to start a new one. All members should keep that in mind before hitting the Submit button.
ironkids said:
oh ok thanks, and the best way to redo everything is do a factory reset and restore from backup that way? I will still have my root correct?
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If you're on a stock ROM I believe superuser will be wiped. So, you'll have to re-root. If you're on a custom ROM and do a factory reset, root should remain intact.
All he has to do is really wipe and install the rom he was using. Just do as they said with titanium backup and you'll be fine.
sent from the Dark Obelisk.
Ya, I did a factory rest and my root ended up staying on the phone and I was able to restore everything and
Have no problem. Thanks for your help guys. This is my first Android after coming from an iPhone for 4 years. Its so much better.
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Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
440bro said:
+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
440bro said:
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
---------- Post added at 07:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 AM ----------
And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
idtheftvictim said:
Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
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i use titanium and freeze crap till i see it causes a issue then un freeze that app, its almost same as S4 if ya had one.
darren.wlsn1 said:
i use titanium and freeze crap till i see it causes a issue then un freeze that app, its almost same as S4 if ya had one.
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Lol
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idtheftvictim said:
Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
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I dont really mean to do a shameless plug or anything but if you want a tool you can check out my Project Infinity rom. With todays update I will have an Aroma installer with a near complete user selection apps installer. Eventually I hope to have every single app that is removal as an option to give the most slimmest install possible.
idtheftvictim said:
Has anyone done any de-bloating? My wife's S5 needs it bad, and I'm not sure what I can safely remove without effecting the system stability.
It would be great if there was a tool to help.
Thanks
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Before I rooted, I simply went into the Application Manager (in settings), switched to the ALL tab, and started going down the list. Particularly paid attention to items that showed up on the RUNNING tab to see what needed freezing the most. If you do it this way, you should not be able to accidentally freeze (or "Turn Off" in the app mgr) any programs that are critical to the operation of the phone.
If you want to "debloat" it further, I do recommend Titanium Backup. It is exceptionally good at freezing apps and otherwise managing backups of apps (and backing up user data from system apps, and converting from system -> user, and many other tasks...). I've been using it since my Samsung Infuse 4G. It will require root, and can do more damage because of this if you are not careful.
As others have recommended, go look at debloat lists for the Galaxy S4. The software lists are nearly identical. Just read through what each app does, and determine for yourself what is needed, and what isn't.
Lastly, if you are rooted, and you are going to debloat using a root application (like TiBu), don't forget to make a full nandroid backup using your custom recovery.... just in case.