Should I get this 2800mah battery, Anyone familiar with Qcell? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I'm kinda skeptical they are truly 2800mah with the same form factor....
No reviews....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006SK5L2I

Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries

ckang008 said:
Ive been using them. Got the 2x battery + charger version. They ard quite good in fact. Beats buying the original for same price of 2 batteries
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Do you notice the difference in the 2? Like does the qcell with 300mah more make a difference?

I have one; started using it yesterday. Haven't used it enough to notice a difference, but personally I doubt there is one. If it was so easy to fit 300mah (>10%!) extra capacity into a battery, why wouldn't Samsung have done it in the first place? Surely a 2800mah battery would be a better selling point than 2500mah.
I miss that battery testing web site where the guy stress-tested all the aftermarket batteries and showed how basically all of them were massively over-rated.
I have two OEM batteries (got one as part of the awesome Samsung portable battery charger) and I figured for $15 or so the Q-cell was worth trying. One of these days I'll do a run-down test and see if there's a difference. If there is, I'll buy 10 of them and then report back here how great they are.
I *love* this product:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...03&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod5530247
It doesn't charge the phone, but you can toss it in a bag, swap batteries mid-day and have enough juice to get through a long evening of speed tests and server management while out on the town.

I've never had a phone die on me mid day.

I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.

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I've never had hypothermia. Doesn't mean I don't carry a jacket when it's cold out.
My point is that for me, by mid-day my Note is often in the 30-40% range, and if I want to comfortably go for 8-10 more hours it's nice to have a fresh battery so you don't have to think twice about it. It's one thing to be at 5% and getting critical battery warnings at 10pm when you're home on the sofa. It's another to be getting 5% battery warnings when you're out somewhere far from a charger and need to use the phone.
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Mid day its that low? I go through my whole day and by the time I go to bed at 12 its at 40-60%.

Yes. I have 3 email accounts - 1 exchange and 2 IMAP (even though I set the intervals for IMAP to 1 and 2 hours), and I use the phone as a desktop replacement for answering emails, server management, and various other web-intensive functions. I lose 10-20% per hour while in use. Screen on auto brightness. Bluetooth is always on because I use a headset or a car link for voice calls, though I don't make a lot of voice calls. If I did my battery would be dead by noon every day. On voice calls my battery graph drops precipitously.
I am in a fringe LTE area, which I suspect doesn't help. Sometimes I get 1-2 bars of LTE, and most of the time I get 4 bars of non-LTE. Searching for signal and switching back and forth is probably not good for battery. Either that it's the time that it's on LTE that kills it. So I'm resigned to either swapping batteries mid-day or leaving the phone on a charger at various times throughout the day.
Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.

Thanks looking forward to the results.

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Back to the Q-cell battery, tomorrow I will use my other phone for the day and try to run a couple of video loop tests with the Q-cell battery and the OEM battery and see how long each lasts.
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Yes please do the test, that would be awesome.

Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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hausman said:
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Maybe try this widget?
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl=en

hausman said:
Planning on it...Monday is looking good as ill have some uninterrupted time where the Note can sit on my desk playing movies. I want to run them down as quickly as possible, so I'm planning to turn wifi on, brightness full, fullscreen movie mode. I don't know if running maps in the background or maybe GPS status would help too. Open to suggestions.
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Don't they make apps that will drain the battery in a consistent way for comparison?
Actually here are some:
https://market.android.com/search?q=battery+benchmark&c=apps

Thanks...I'll look into those but I figure full brightness video is fine too.
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Test 1 is currently running. Fully charged Qcell 2800, started at 6:45am; as of approx. 9am (2h 12m of full screen video with GPS status running in the background) battery was 65%. I have the phone in flight mode to remove network connectivity/signal strength as a variable. Full results will be in tonight.

Well this isn't even close. I'm half tempted not to bother finishing the test. On test #2, OEM battery, after 2h 12m of video the OEM battery is at 78%. 78% vs 65%....that is HUGE. The OEM is winning by a mile. But for kicks I'll finish the test and post all the results/graphs.

"2800mAh" battery is more like 1600mAh
The results are much worse than I expected. And I notice that Amazon isn't even selling these batteries anymore, so that's something to take note of. I would imagine the data below would look familiar for any aftermarket battery sold at a cheap price (and possibly some sold for a not-cheap price).
Each battery was charged to 100% to start. I used the Samsung video player on full brightness (using the video player setting, not just the Android setting since the video player setting overrides the system). I played 3 movies on the Note during the rundown tests, in the same order. Mostly the Note sat on a corner of my desk playing with volume off; occasionally I stopped it to take a measurement or screenshot.
The "2800" battery lasted 5h 32m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was fairly linear, though it did accelerate a bit starting at about 25%. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was at 65%, after movie 2 (4h 15m cumulative) it was 30%, and did not make it through movie #3.
The OEM battery lasted 9h 35m to 1% charge. Discharge rate was also linear and remained essentially the same from 100 to 0. After movie 1 (2h 12m) it was 78%, after movie 2 (4h 15m) it was 57%, after movie 3 (6h cumulative) it was 36% (the "2800" battery died during movie 3), and after movie 3 I went back and played movie 1 again (in full) and then started movie 1 AGAIN and got another ~90 minutes into it.
The difference is ridiculous. Since the "2800" battery was only $14, price per mAh is actually better than the OEM battery which is more than twice as expensive, but this thing is more like 1600mAh than 2800mAh. This isn't surprising to me, but it is good to quantify how terrible these knockoff batteries are. If I'd paid $20 or more for it I'd be angry, but given how cheap it was I'll toss it in the drawer and know I have a cheap 5-hour battery in addition to my two OEM batteries.
Since the "2800" battery has only had a couple of charge cycles, I will try to run the test again in a few days and see if more charge/discharge cycles make a difference. My OEM batteries haven't had many more, though, since I have two and I've been swapping between them on alternate days. I don't expect to gain 1200mAh.
Notice something else. When I rebooted for the 2nd test, bluetooth turned itself back on despite the Note staying in flight mode. I didn't notice that during the test, but that means that the OEM battery was actually under more load than the "2800" battery for the 9+ hour run.
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OEM:
Buy Samsung batteries.

Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.

SPtheALIEN said:
Damn.
I have been hearing that the Hyperion ones are good, though. The pricing seems to be about the same as the QCell. I guess I'll find out--they should be arriving today.
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please report back !

So after using them for a few days, they actually seem pretty good.
I don't think I have the patience that Hausman (I actually want to call him 'haus) to do a more technical burn analysis (thanks 'Haus). Plus, I'm lazy. However, I've been using them instead of the Samsung OEM battery for the past few days and they seem to be transparent enough that I don't notice that a different battery is being used.
For $30 on Amazon, I'd tap that.

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2000mah battery OEM size

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I purchased 1 of these Andida (1600mah) for my G1 and battery life increase is very noticeable. Just ordered 1 for my Tmo TP2.
Looking forward to your review. I will also buy one in case its worth once I have my rhodium. Cheers..
an extra 500mah's does seem nice for a few quid, ill hold out for your review also.
post for review curious myself as I got about a day out of this thing although I did talk for 3 hours on it
I would be real leary and real careful about buying a battery that inexpensive, even if it is 2000mah. If its protection circuit is not good or even worse, non existent, that TP2 is nothing but a grenade in your pocket. I know I'm not risking a no name Chinese battery in any device I know. You just never know what you are getting for your money.
I would be real leary and real careful about buying a battery that inexpensive, even if it is 2000mah. If its protection circuit is not good or even worse, non existent, that TP2 is nothing but a grenade in your pocket. I know I'm not risking a no name Chinese battery in any device I own. You just never know what you are getting for your money.
I purchased this like 10days ago... takes a while to get here... alot of people are purchang this and no complaints yet...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90763
So how about some impressions after some time? Is it good, it doesn't make your TP2 explode?
I just ordered mine so I'm curious to find out your opinion.
Ive been using this for over a week.... no explosions yet... im getting 20-30% more life out of my phone... the battery packaging is legit and the battery is high quality... lets just say now i cant even remember where i left the oem battery lol
Received mine yesterday
So far so good (89% after 10 hours and I have push email)
2000mAh Andida
Received the 2000mAh. Put it to the test with Coreplayer in a loop playing Coraline fullscreen sound off. The Andida lasted 130 minutes first charge, 155 minutes second and third charge.
The stock 1500mAh HTC lasts 220 minutes. Quite a difference. But for € 7,50 including shipping you won't hear me complain. It's still a whole lot cheaper per minute than the other leading brands.
BTW, I haven't tested it yet but it seems the 2000mAh Andida provides longer stand-by times. Will test that starting today. If so, someone have a theory as to how Li-Ion batteries perform different under different circumstances? If there is a theoretical possibility that is
Packaging was quite professional I must say. Apart from that, the battery doesn't heat up, not during charging and not while it was put to the test.
Die Bruine said:
Received the 2000mAh. Put it to the test with Coreplayer in a loop playing Coraline fullscreen sound off. The Andida lasted 130 minutes first charge, 155 minutes second and third charge.
The stock 1500mAh HTC lasts 220 minutes. Quite a difference. But for € 7,50 including shipping you won't hear me complain. It's still a whole lot cheaper per minute than the other leading brands.
BTW, I haven't tested it yet but it seems the 2000mAh Andida provides longer stand-by times. Will test that starting today. If so, someone have a theory as to how Li-Ion batteries perform different under different circumstances? If there is a theoretical possibility that is
Packaging was quite professional I must say. Apart from that, the battery doesn't heat up, not during charging and not while it was put to the test.
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A higher stand-by time but lower overall energy density is unlikely given they are both lithium ion. It's possible there are more impurities or something of the sort in the Andida battery, giving a higher internal resistance (meaning it has a high voltage drop-off when under full load). That would indicate a very poor manufacturing process and be a surprise.
This thing about these batteries having 2000mAh is total BS. I've tested for my own amusement a few of these cheap batteries under a few different testing regimes (using This). They can squeeze a few mAh by stripping down the packaging and safety stuff, but not much. All battery manufacturers are limited by simple chemistry. In this case, Lithium Polymer. If you want a high Ah battery, it will be bigger.
Die Bruine said:
Received the 2000mAh. Put it to the test with Coreplayer in a loop playing Coraline fullscreen sound off. The Andida lasted 130 minutes first charge, 155 minutes second and third charge.
The stock 1500mAh HTC lasts 220 minutes. Quite a difference. But for € 7,50 including shipping you won't hear me complain. It's still a whole lot cheaper per minute than the other leading brands.
BTW, I haven't tested it yet but it seems the 2000mAh Andida provides longer stand-by times. Will test that starting today. If so, someone have a theory as to how Li-Ion batteries perform different under different circumstances? If there is a theoretical possibility that is
Packaging was quite professional I must say. Apart from that, the battery doesn't heat up, not during charging and not while it was put to the test.
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I have not done an official minute test but I feel exactly the same about this battery. Price, packaging is good but not even close to 2000mah of use time under data usage. Standby time is pretty good but who cares since we use the phone for data or else you wouldn't have a touchscreen $500 device. I am not saying it was a waste of money since it is a second battery...but definitely not an extended battery.
Alcibiade said:
Received mine yesterday
So far so good (89% after 10 hours and I have push email)
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Does push use more battery?
mmafighter077 said:
Does push use more battery?
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yes.........................
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yes.........................
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Oh I dont know why but I thought it used more battery every time it connected to the internet every 15 to 30 minutes to check for email (what ever non-push is called). Well I was mistaken. Thanks. Guess thats a whole nother topic which I dont care enough to start..
I just purchased this battery btw. From my experience I purchased a 3rd party battery from china for my g1. I had no problems with the battery I could see a difference. It lasted at least 6 months until I got rid of the g1 for the tp2.
I bought the g1 extended battery on ebay for $13. It was the exact same battery that fommy.com was selling for $40. Im sure china is where most resellers get there items from but they probably slap sticker over the original and call it theirs.
I see this as cutting out the middle man and saving myself the cost.
i would definatelly never trust a battery that cheap, especially in something that:
a) is kept in a pocket (see pic :)
b) is ususlly left to charge over night.
something that happened to someone using a chineese no-brand extended battery in an HTC Touch Pro:
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got my battery from this seller...
Ok... I got my battery and the standby is better (which is a plus for me all by itself at $10) but it does get noticeably warmer and which is abit unnerving for me (with the exploding pocket thing happening )... I think this will be as a ok 2nd battery but I don't trust it unattended and will treat in as a disposable solution... Has anyone else had any issues with the temp of this battery being warmer that the norm... (oh and ps... who really puts there phone in their back pocket... thats crazy...)
dfspot said:
Ok... I got my battery and the standby is better (which is a plus for me all by itself at $10) but it does get noticeably warmer and which is abit unnerving for me (with the exploding pocket thing happening )... I think this will be as a ok 2nd battery but I don't trust it unattended and will treat in as a disposable solution... Has anyone else had any issues with the temp of this battery being warmer that the norm... (oh and ps... who really puts there phone in their back pocket... thats crazy...)
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id rather it exploded back there, than 3" from the family juwels......
10 days? try one month!!
o0adam0o said:
I purchased this like 10days ago... takes a while to get here... alot of people are purchang this and no complaints yet...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90763
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I purchased and they charged my credit card 11/27, here it is 12/28 and still no batteries. There is no tracking number for these when they were sent as they didn't let me know that the way I'd paid I couldn't get a tracking number.
What I don't understand is I get a lot of things from DealExtreme and they ship from China and it's always trackable for bulkrate shipping. So, what gives with this company?

are you using a extended battery??

i'm looking to get a extended battery that is better that the standard g1 battery but i don't wanna convert my G1 in a gigantic brick...i dont mind a few more milimeters of tickness on the g1 but not too much...for the people that are using extended battery which will you recomend?
It's like saying I need to get a shot, but not with a needle. It will add thickness, if you don't like it get one of the 1700 batteries from the thread below.
I didn't mind the extra girth for a two day battery life. But right now I'm back to stock because it fell off my bed and the cover broke on the bottom.
evilkorn said:
It's like saying I need to get a shot, but not with a needle. It will add thickness, if you don't like it get one of the 1700 batteries from the thread below.
I didn't mind the extra girth for a two day battery life. But right now I'm back to stock because it fell off my bed and the cover broke on the bottom.
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i concur. i just got my new battery a couple days ago. a 2200 mAh. yes, it did make my g1 into a brick (in size, not functionality), but i would choose actually being able to use my phone over size anyday.
I got a Seidio 1400mAh battery. The brand is reputable, the use I get from it is noticeably more, and the size is the same as the stock battery.
My stock battery started to bulge out last month and wouldn't last even two hours on a charge. I'm not able to use my phone as much as I'd like during the day, but I can take it off the charger at 6am and still have over 30% charge at 9pm. I don't call, but I use lunch and break time to check up on facebook and newsfeeds.
I use Andida 1600mAh Battery. It works much longer than the default one while not making your phone bloated (it's the same size as original). And best of all it's pretty darn cheap! I was quite skeptical about it at first, but I got it just because how cheap it was. And it works like a charm!
oh well so i ordered this morning a 2200 mAh battery for $24...i'll be here anytime in the next two days...so should i do first charge the battery or use the battery till it die and then do the calibration?
Same with all Li batteries, drain, then charge fully.
I am using an Andida 1600mah battery as well. But I would like to ask whether there is any other battery that does not require a case covering? I just dont like to turn my phone into a brick. What is the max without requiring a bigger case? 1700mah? or 1800mah? Thanks.
ok so i just got my new extended battery to be honest is not that thick (still pits on the original pouch)and i like the new backcover...actually is a diferent one that the ones i saw on the pictures...i put it on my G1 and it has %53 left so i'm gonna kill it and recharge...awesome...
Karolis said:
I use Andida 1600mAh Battery. It works much longer than the default one while not making your phone bloated (it's the same size as original). And best of all it's pretty darn cheap! I was quite skeptical about it at first, but I got it just because how cheap it was. And it works like a charm!
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Please be aware that the recent batch of Andida 1600mah batteries are NO good. Before you go on ebay and get one, take a read on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5378371#post5378371
I got 2 batteries, both do not charge. I just got a replacement from the seller, the replacement does not charge and a lot of people are experiencing the same thing.
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I too brought the 2600mAh battery off of eBay. Cost me £12.00 which is around $20 I believe. Funny thing is, when I recieved it, it said 2850mAh on the battery. Now I don't know if it's a genuine HTC battery or not (sure as hell looks close enough) but it definately does the job. And as far as the size goes, as the previous poster said, you get used to it. Plus I find it a bit easier with the extra size when typing on the device. I would advise it to anyone. Makes your phone last a hell of a lot longer. Small, but very worthy investment.
Small question though: I don't know if I had a dodgy battery before, but this new one seems to charge in around half the time of the stock battery. Has anyone else experienced this or is it just me? I just thought I'd ask
Wow this batttery is a beast...my settings using the original battery was alway on edge,the lowest brightness setting,maybe a few text a few minutes talking listening music for like 2 hours and by the time I got home it will be under %10 this is barely using my phone now I have it on 3g using wifi whenever is possible texting browsing playing videos from youtube medium settings on brightness playing games listening to music for 2 hours and by the time I got home is at %55 and when I tried to kill the battery for a new recharge it just don't wanna die my last charge last over 24 hours...I'm so glad that I get this new battery finally I can use my phone without being attached to the charger....I'm planing to get me a bluetooth headphones...
I got a White G1, I bought a 2300 mAh Extended battery from ebay for about 23 USD, with the black battery door, but after months of abuse, the door cracked on me till a point where it just wouldnt stay on my g1 with my hand behind it ... So I ordered another one this time for only 12-13 (w/ shipping) bucks .. and it's white... Just got it today, Pictures below
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DKM119 said:
Wow this batttery is a beast...my settings using the original battery was alway on edge,the lowest brightness setting,maybe a few text a few minutes talking listening music for like 2 hours and by the time I got home it will be under %10 this is barely using my phone now I have it on 3g using wifi whenever is possible texting browsing playing videos from youtube medium settings on brightness playing games listening to music for 2 hours and by the time I got home is at %55 and when I tried to kill the battery for a new recharge it just don't wanna die my last charge last over 24 hours...I'm so glad that I get this new battery finally I can use my phone without being attached to the charger....I'm planing to get me a bluetooth headphones...
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What is the name of the battery?
And for the rest who bought the batteries, can you please state what it the seller's name or the battery brand? I'm thinking of trying one of those large ones Thanks!
I have the Seidio Innocell 2600 mAh battery. I like it now, but the bulge took about a week to get used to. It's great not having to worry about charging the phone halfway through the day (my stock lasted 6-8 hours tops).
The only complaint I have about the bigger battery cover is that it is easier to crack and break. I have a crack in the lower left corner of my cover, and I'm worried it will continue to grow. I've looked on eBay and Google for replacement battery covers, but I can't find any for sale without a battery.
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The only complaint I have about the bigger battery cover is that it is easier to crack and break. I have a crack in the lower left corner of my cover, and I'm worried it will continue to grow. I've looked on eBay and Google for replacement battery covers, but I can't find any for sale without a battery.
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I too can vouch for this. I have a crack in the exact same place. I also have lost the small lip like thing at the top where the back cover becomes in line with the keyboard. Only the lip part is gone though. If I find a cover available without the battery I'll be sure to post it.
I picked mine up from Gadget Garage off of ebay for around $20. I'll also vouch for the batteries themselves. It adds thickness but the change in battery life makes it worth it imho. Mine has been up 17 hours and I'm still at 50% without charging at all.
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I got a Seidio 1400mAh battery. The brand is reputable, the use I get from it is noticeably more, and the size is the same as the stock battery.
My stock battery started to bulge out last month and wouldn't last even two hours on a charge. I'm not able to use my phone as much as I'd like during the day, but I can take it off the charger at 6am and still have over 30% charge at 9pm. I don't call, but I use lunch and break time to check up on facebook and newsfeeds.
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I bought one of the 1600 mAh pieces of crap and sent it back. Where did you order the Seido 1400 mAh from?
Is anyone using a case with a big battery? My current case (Body Glove) has protected my phone from everything for over a year. Don't want to lose the case for a bigger battery.

One week left of 30-day period...mixed feelings (edit: nevermind)

I absolutely love everything about my first Android phone, the hardware, software, apps...it's all good...except the battery life. I've tried most everything I've read here to try and maximize it, and I'm still having to break out the charger to get me through the evening.
Coming from BlackBerry, I've been used to having battery life exceeding two days...not that I ever needed to last that long, I always charge each night anyways. I merely want to be able to make it to bedtime each night without having to charge the phone, without having to cripple the features I love about it, and without having to be overly wary of my usage.
Is this dream possible with this, or any Android device?
I've tried the stock ROM, now on UnNamed...tried Juice Defender (got rid of it), SetCPU, Screebl, using Llama to shut off wireless when away from home or work, brightness down low (shame with such a beautiful screen)...and I still average around 7% an hour drain. CPUspy tells me I spend 60% of the time in deep sleep and 15% at 200mhz.
I don't really know what else to try, I want so badly to keep this phone, but don't want to significantly compromise the way I'm used to using my mobile device. I don't play games, I don't watch videos, I use my phone as an information and communications tool...and from that standpoint, this phone is simply awesome, if it would just get me through the day.
I have one week left to try and resolve this...what should be my next step?
It does sound like you're having unusual low battery life, my phone says that it's been 2 days 6 hours since my last charge and I'm still at 30%. If I were you, I would go and try to exchange it and see if maybe they give a little extra time to test out the phone.
See I would be ecstatic with 30% remaining after just one full day...I take the phone off the charger at around 7am, and would prefer not to put it back on a charge until 11pm or later.
I got it from Amazon Wireless, so I'll have to give them a call and see what they say about an exchange...you always run the risk of getting a device with an issue though, and this one is perfect otherwise...
Best of luck resolving this man!
It seems that the drain is only really happening when the screen is on...I can let it sit for awhile, and the battery meter doesn't budge...but I pick it up and start using it and you can practically watch it dropping...
Turn your data off when you're not using it
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So from about 7:30 this morning until around 12:45pm, I dropped about 13%...which is around 2.5% an hour, something I can live with. Although that was with almost no use, screen off most of the time. In the last 45 minutes, I've been using the phone, reading emails, screen on much more, and it's dropped 8% more in just that 45 min period. My screen brightness is about 25%.
That can't be normal, right?
EDIT: Ya know, I'm just going to shut my mouth and enjoy my phone. I put it on the charger at work for the last 30 minutes of my workday today, and I'm at 80% at 8pm...I'm good with that. I'll pick up a couple spare batteries, and with chargers at work and home, I'm all good. I'll keep it as bright as I want it, sync data as often as I want, leave the CPU speed alone, and quit looking at the battery gauge...when I do that, it's a fricken awesome phone.
I was having this problem also, I use juice defender pro, and setcpu. I have juice set up to kill all connections when the phone is sleeping and set it up to where it syncs my facebook/emails every 2hrs, in setcpu you can create custom profiles that allow you to underclock your cpu when its sleeping, charging, certain times of the day/night. Im looking at my phone now and im at 1 day 0h 16 minutes with over half left. If you need some help setting up custom profiles and configuring juice (I recommend redownloading it again.) Shoot me a pm and ill see if I can help you. Good luck
I didn't want to compromise how I use my phone either. Most days I take my phone off the charger at about 7:30. By about the time I come back from lunch 1ish, it usually above 50%, but right around there. I generally plug it in at work for a few hours and generally can get it back to 90+ before going home. The day includes generally 3-4 hours pandora, so I figure that's par for the course. When I had my captivate doing the same thing it was almost dead by noon.
I think I might just be able to make it all day on a singles charge with what I consider heavy use, but its nice never seeing my battery drop below 40. Here's my weekly use, you can see the pattern of small drain, recharge, drain, charge overnight.
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Everytime I think my battery is draining too fast I think back to how long ago the power in my hands wasn't in a computer tower, and I calm down. My phone is an extension of my hand, always being used, I don't expect my friend to starve, and don't feel unreasonable to let him snack mid-day.
For what its worth I am on UnNamed. I used S8 and did not see the giant jump in battery a lot of people claimed, I felt it was the same. I wasn't on stock long enough to really tell. But, I feel you need a week or more to really know, and I didn't last that long on stock.
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What is your screen timeout set at? Anything more than 30 seconds will drain battery excessively. Also, do you keep your screen on when listening to Pandora, or while charging the phone? Those are also a waste of battery.
2.5% per hour when idle its not bad, and losing 8% in 45 minutes with the display on is actually pretty good...
I leave the screen timeout on 1 minute, its too frustrating to me when I am trying to read a webpage or thread and it times out. Maybe I am a slow reader, LOL. 45 seconds would probably work for me, but its not an option in these ROMs. I leave my screen brightness to automatic, and turn off my screen as soon as I start pandora. I do use Bluetooth to listen to pandora, so I bet that doesn't help. I also listen to audiobooks over Bluetooth in the car to and from work. But I did all the same stuff with my captivate. I have started using wifi when at home, but haven't seen a battery impact for that.
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not surprising at all to see your battery drain like that when you use bluetooth so extensively. nothing wrong with bluetooth, but it is definitely going to use up your battery faster - there is a huge difference in battery drain between a regular voice call made with the handset, and a voice call of the same amount of time made in my car via bluetooth - i don't have exact statistics, but i'd say about double the drain. same thing between a wireless bluetooth headset, and a pair of wired headphones.
sounds like you have solved your problem with multiple chargers, but if you wanted to avoid charging in the middle of the day, switching to a wired pair of headphones when listening to all of your pandora would almost certainly do the trick.
Wow, I didn't realize it was so much. I have headphones in my desk at work for computer trainings, but never use them on my phone. Plus I could plug my phone into my car's radio go play over the speakers. I think its a convienience thing more than anything else, not having to unplug for the car when I get to work, nit taking the headphones out to pick up something at the printer.
As you said another charger is a good fix, something I never need on weekends, but I ways attributed that to pandora more than Bluetooth. Definately food for thought. Thanks.
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As far as the screen timeout, I use Screebl and it works great. It senses the position of the phone to know when it's being used and keeps the screen on, then also can tell when the phone has been set down and turns the screen off within seconds. You can manually set the angles and positions so it also works fine when you're reading in bed. Helps with both keeping the screen on for those long emails as well as shutting it down quickly to save a little battery life.
Without a doubt, it's the screen being on that is the primary battery killer on my phone...when it sits idle, regardless of how often data is being used, I'm under 2% per hour drain. When the screen is on, you can practically watch the needle go down, it's crazy.
I do use SetCPU to drop the CPU to 200-500mhz when the screen is off, and to drop to 200-800 when it gets below 30%...aside from that, I'm done trying to optimize. I want to have my email and other notifications come in when they were sent, not an hour or two later. I want to see the great screen in the daylight, not a dimmed version. This is why I bought the phone. All that power requires some juice, so I'm going to make sure I've got extra juice on tap.
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I didn't want to compromise how I use my phone either. Most days I take my phone off the charger at about 7:30. By about the time I come back from lunch 1ish, it usually above 50%, but right around there. I generally plug it in at work for a few hours and generally can get it back to 90+ before going home. The day includes generally 3-4 hours pandora, so I figure that's par for the course. When I had my captivate doing the same thing it was almost dead by noon.
I think I might just be able to make it all day on a singles charge with what I consider heavy use, but its nice never seeing my battery drop below 40. Here's my weekly use, you can see the pattern of small drain, recharge, drain, charge overnight.
Everytime I think my battery is draining too fast I think back to how long ago the power in my hands wasn't in a computer tower, and I calm down. My phone is an extension of my hand, always being used, I don't expect my friend to starve, and don't feel unreasonable to let him snack mid-day.
For what its worth I am on UnNamed. I used S8 and did not see the giant jump in battery a lot of people claimed, I felt it was the same. I wasn't on stock long enough to really tell. But, I feel you need a week or more to really know, and I didn't last that long on stock.
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What is that app you're using?
The SGS II has power drain issues as well? I had the captivate and I could turn it on and watch the battery drain. I'm on Atrix 2 right now and I have zero issues with the battery. Best buy has dropped the price of the SGS II and it's really tempting to switch. Hmm what to do... What to do...
I picked up an Atrix 2 from Best Buy off contract last weekend so I could compare side-by-side with my SGS2, I really wanted the notification LED...but I took the A2 back yesterday. Improved battery life and the weak notification LED couldn't overcome the stark disadvantage in performance and screen quality (in my opinion). Laggy web browser and menu scrolling in comparison and an overly backlit looking screen with little contrast...although if I hadn't already had a couple weeks with the SGS2, I'd have probably been fine with it.
Everyone has different experiences with battery life depending on how they use their phone, you should grab the SGS2 and do a comparison and see what works best for you. Battery life has dropped down my priority list as of late, since I'm using the phone so much more now for every little thing (becasue it's so damn gorgeous), I have to expect to use up some juice.
Yeah I had to install miren browser, go Launcher, and handecnt SMS to change the color of the LED colors. Loving the phone and hopefully we will get an unlocked boot loader. SGS was really easy to root, flash, and OC. Still a bit pissed at AT&T for releasing another SGS II, no reason for doing that. I have a couple of weeks to kick the thought around. If its looking bleak for us A2 users then I'll jump on over to the OG SGS II lol. Screw the skypocketrocketshipboat.
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What is that app you're using?
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Its called device analyzer. Its an app made for data collection about android device useage for the University of Cambridge. It also keeps track of data use, but not as granular.
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I leave the screen timeout on 1 minute, its too frustrating to me when I am trying to read a webpage or thread and it times out. Maybe I am a slow reader, LOL.
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try screebly, that will let you set you timetout to 15s, whiel avoiding the issue you speak of above.

So all those who got their rezound early, hows the battery?

As the title says I haven't seen anyone actually test the battery for a couple days, it's usually review and move on.
So how is it?
Well it hasn't been mentioned so it probably isn't worse than we expect it to be.
Also interested to know. Of course since this will be the first few days people have it, they'll be using it a ton so it may not be the best estimate on battery life but I would love to know an idea of how much to expect.
They haven't had time to calabrate yet.
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First charge with heavy use got greater than expected life. I will still buy an extended one, but thats cuz i hate charging. 7 hours of heavy use on 3g only.
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7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
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7 hours of heavy use isn't bad. So idling with 4G off probably isn't terrible then. That is what I am most concerned about. Hopefully we will get kernel source and just get some undervolt going.
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yeah not to mention that after you root you can flash leaner kernels and ROM's. But we'll have to wait for development to pick up, I really hope we see some good developers here.
So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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So right now it's 1am and I took the phone off of the charger at 8:21 with 85% battery life. It is now at 47% with some steady texting, exchange activesync, some web browsing, and a 7 minute video all on 4g. I'm not sure what to make of that but it seems decent.
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DAMMIT I WANT!!! 3 more days...
I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I don't know that I've charged it fully since I got it. It was close to fully charged before I went to a wedding tonight. Lasted all 6 hours or so I was there, but was tuckering out (~20%) by the time I left. But I did spend a bit of time playing with the phone. And 4G was on the whole time. And I turned live wallpaper on, played with my weather and clock widgets, tried to get a wifi connection that wouldn't work, browsed the web a bit.
I recharged on the way home to about 50%, and sitting around playing with it for the last hour to 1.5 hours, it's still at 40%.
If it makes you feel any better, the biggest battery hog was the display, BY FAR. Like 80-something percent to the <20% combined for the other functions. I'll try and remember to post my impressions from my first "normal" day of use tomorrow and let you know how the battery fairs.
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I got mine yesterday and I can say it is about 25-30% better than a rooted thunderbolt....My logic says once rooted we will get really good battery life.
I am a heavy user and I can say I turned off fast boot and bump charged it 3 times on Thursday night. I gave it a heavy use all day on Friday.
Took it off the charger at 10 am around 8 pm I was on 35%. So that was 10 hours of heavy use and still had 35% left. If I was using the rooted bolt I would have been dead around 5:30 and a stock bolt...even sooner.
hope all these battery estimates are true, sounds like this will be my next phone!
Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network. Played about 1 hour worth of Pandora on high quality setting. A couple minutes of 4G Youtube. Tons of tinkering with games and downloading apps and playing around. Screen brightness was set to something like 30%. live wallpaper enabled. Weather and clock widget enabled. Data tracking widget enabled. Did a few seconds of video Skype too. I would say it was consistent use all day, but not necessarily heavy for most of the day.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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Took it off the charger at about 11am today... Was close to 100%, maybe 95%. Just hooked it up to charge about 10 minutes ago (so off charger completely for ~10 hours). It had ~10% battery life left when I hooked it up.
EDIT: I forgot. One short phone call. I'm sort of a bad guinea pig for battery life on a phone because I really don't make a lot of phone calls. Consider my use representative of someone who uses data during his commute and for texting/games/forum/app usage.
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I have very similar usage habits. Glad to hear that this seems to have relatively good battery life.
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Had Wifi and/or 4G on the entire day, including an hour and a half in a bad service area, where it fought for a bit to find service until I logged into the wifi network.
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Bad/No service areas will kill a battery so fast. My office is in a windowless reinforced concrete room inside a reinforced windowless room inside a reinforced building. (Yo dawg)
I get no service at all. If I leave the 3g on, phone won't make it past 5 hours. Turn the 3G/WiFi off and battery percent goes down a few points.
I need one!!!
Kellex over a Droid-Life has gotten just over 10 hours of normal usage (all in 4G) for the past couple of days. He also stated he is not a heavy user by any means.
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Seems like it isn't as bad as most thought it would be.
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I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
jdmba said:
I remain interested in the phone but undecided due to some really bad hardware failures I have on my Dinc.
While I am very interested in battery life like everyone else, please everyone keep in mind that "how is the battery" is as personal a question as "which radio is the best one to use."
There is no way one person can truly tell you how the battery will be for you. If you sit in an interior office without wifi, and have sync contacts and facebook set for every hour, that ALONE will cause a drain that may not be comparable.
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What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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jbh00jh said:
What does this phone have in common with a year old phone.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, you got another post!
That aside ... just please everyone keep that in mind when making battery life decisions based on what others experience; battery life can be GREATLY impacted by things well outside what programs you might run and how many texts you might send.
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Yay, so did you.
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I don't get your problem i have 2 Batterys if o have to get thru the whole day and night without changing. But 12-15h with one Battery are no Problem for me, and i use Bluetooth Headset GPS Wlan NFC all the time
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I don't get your problem i have 2 Batterys if o have to get thru the whole day and night without changing. But 12-15h with one Battery are no Problem for me, and i use Bluetooth Headset GPS Wlan NFC all the time
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First, based on my usage over the past 3 days, I don't know how that would be even remotely possible. Right now, I have all of that turned off, and my battery is dying just sitting there laying dormant....never saw that before, even with something as small as an iphone 4.
Second, I think you actually proved my point when you said you have to use 2 batteries. I've had iphones and an galaxy note 3 and s5 before and it was never an issue before that I even had to think about having a second battery. I used to read reviews of people saying that a benefit of a samsung over and iphone was the removable battery....while it's true that the battery might be removable, with the iphone you don't need to.
You should not exaggerate, sure this is not the phone if you're a really heavy user.
But I'm using it with everything ON, and never had a problem with it, I'm charging it every night.
But if you do have battery issues, you can buy yourself the 2500mah extended battery.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-6-battery-life-test/
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-alpha-exynos-5430-battery-test/
I am a heavy user and average about 4 hours of SOT with LTE Web Browsing and about 30 minutes of calls BUT I will probably get the 2500 Mah Battery ..
Also there may be a 20 -25% difference between Qualcomm and Exynos Versions with Exynos better ( wild guess on my part on %).
Still coming from a Note 3 , Alpha could be a shock.
Should have been 8mm thick with 2700 Mah
Battery and Ram and Camera and SD like Note 4....THEN Alpha would not be discontinued...lol.
I think you have somehow faulty phone, because this phone has awesome standby time, even with nfc/wifi/GPS on. And it can even survive 30mins of talking with just 3% of battery. Usually the battery in my alpha and in some other alphas survives 12+h with wifi/nfc on and with 3-4h SOT.
Sounds like the phone or battery is messed up. Just replaced battery. If it still doesn't fix, contact carrier
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I've had my Alpha for a week now (Exynos version) and I'm disappointed in the battery as well. I bought it for music playback and I took a six hour drive over the weekend with it functioning in airplane mode streaming music through the headphone jack. That was it. It was down to 9% at the end of my drive. Call me crazy, but that's unacceptable for it not being connected to ANY network. It was just playing music and an audiobook located on the device. Is this normal? I can return it, but I love the form factor and the audio quality is second to none, so I will probably just live with it.
-Collin-
There is an extended battery that you can get if you need some extra juice.
Try latest Firmware... BOA2 gave me 20% better battery life
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If you completely disable NFC the battery lasts for more than 2 days.
Can you post screenshots of your battery use? It would be interesting to see why your phones battery die so many times faster than mine
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Can you post screenshots of your battery use? It would be interesting to see why your phones battery die so many times faster than mine
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Yes, I would love to. Please let me know how to do that. I will also try to look it up, but I haven't used android in a while so it's all new to me again.
Incidentally, I continue to be dissatisfied with the battery compared to my past iphones. I have everything turned off, e.g., NFC, bluetooth, etc. And, I hardly have any apps installed.
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@ skirush, you either have a bad phone or an app that is draining your battery in the background. And don't blame the "pathetic" battery. I'm getting 70 minutes of screen time when my battery drains to 20%. Also, I am not using the power save modes.
Did you buy your phone new? It is very odd that you are not getting better performance from your Alpha.
I'm not really sure what to do. I'm pretty pissed about this whole thing. I went out on a limb and bought it new online. Once I got the phone, I confirmed with both AT&T and Samsung that the phone was legit and both said yes. In fact, Samsung even said that the phone is covered under warranty. So, instead of returning it (due to the poor battery life) I kept it. Now, I might be too late to return it to the company I bought it from. It's been over their 14 day return policy.
I have had the feeling that its messed up ever since I first got it, but I decided to stick with it since samsung said it was legit. Now, I'm regretting it.
thumbs down for Samsung support
I called Samsung tech support/customer service. Get this, they are willing to replace the battery...IF, I first send them my battery that's currently in my phone. That's just not possible. Like most people, I have one cell phone with one battery. I don't have a landline phone. So, I don't have spare batteries just lying around to use in the mean time.
That's bs from my perspective. I've had replacements on phones sent to me before. For example, ATT sent me a replacement Note 3 and they took my credit card info on file. After I returned the old unit back to them they release a hold in the amount of the phone.
Not sure why samsung is unwilling to do this. Seems ridiculous to expect someone to send them a battery for their phone, thus rendering it useless. And who knows how long it would take them to send a new one back to me. Could be a total 2 weeks without a phone between me mailing them the old battery and them sending me a new one. Who can do that?
a battery costs about 10$ and for longer trips you may need a second one. So why don't you buy an second one and send the battery from the phone to Samsung?
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First, based on my usage over the past 3 days, I don't know how that would be even remotely possible. Right now, I have all of that turned off, and my battery is dying just sitting there laying dormant....never saw that before, even with something as small as an iphone 4.
Second, I think you actually proved my point when you said you have to use 2 batteries. I've had iphones and an galaxy note 3 and s5 before and it was never an issue before that I even had to think about having a second battery. I used to read reviews of people saying that a benefit of a samsung over and iphone was the removable battery....while it's true that the battery might be removable, with the iphone you don't need to.
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I am an ATT user so I did have the 850A version with the snapdragon and I did notice that the battery life was pretty bad, but not as bad as you illustrate - and yes this phone gets nowhere near the life as the IPhone6 (my wife has one too).
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If you completely disable NFC the battery lasts for more than 2 days.
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I totally agree with this. The NFC chip on this phone kills the battery. I dropped from 100 to 65 % in 4 hours with the phone in standby. I turned off NFC and 3 hours later it only dropped another 6%
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@ skirush, you either have a bad phone or an app that is draining your battery in the background. And don't blame the "pathetic" battery. I'm getting 70 minutes of screen time when my battery drains to 20%. Also, I am not using the power save modes.
Did you buy your phone new? It is very odd that you are not getting better performance from your Alpha.
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I had a DLNA app in the background running (just the service) and it too drained the battery as it was constantly trying to find DLNA ready devices.
Bottom line: Either you have a defective battery/phone or you have a consumer that you have not discovered yet.
BTW I switched to the 850M with the samsung chip just because I get the rooting support that the A version will propably never get. Plus the phone outright is cheaper.
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....Not sure why samsung is unwilling to do this. Seems ridiculous to expect someone to send them a battery for their phone, thus rendering it useless. And who knows how long it would take them to send a new one back to me. Could be a total 2 weeks without a phone between me mailing them the old battery and them sending me a new one. Who can do that?
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I purchased this aftermarket battery as a backup. it's been working like the original one. $6 shipped to you is a steal for me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Battery-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Alpha-G850-/111584617173
Sucks that Samsung is making you jump through these hoops. I would check with the retailer you bought it from if you can exchange it. If not, file a claim with your credit card. Good luck

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