I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516924
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate BGR
I stopped reading at "BGR".
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
Love my Note, regrets = NO.
but's it's battle for my wife S3 or IP5
Mortem Tuam said:
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate BGR
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Yeah me too I read it at http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/ which cited BGR.. still (its own quad didn't surprise me) but 1080p!
Still curious about its battery & speaker/s (hopefully more impressive than the Note's speaker). Would it have been so hard for Samsung to launch the Note with ICS in February? Does the Nexus have some kind of phone ICS exclusivity until March as some Samsung rep suggested to me at the Note launch..?
ryandelman said:
No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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Everyone knows iBGR is not a reliable source..
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While I have no faith in the reliability of these two sources and as a result don't pay much mind to anything that they and other such sites write, I still find reading the comments section of articles like those very much entertaining.
For example,
Person 1: What will be the marketing price?
Person 2: Most coments sayng its fake :O
Person 1: Even I think so .. It dont even have single button ..
What Apple cant even do
Uh. Galaxy Nexus? Hmmm. Some of those iSheep never cease to amaze me with their ignorance.
Another common topic:
"um. doesn't ceramic shatter ridiculously easily?"
"Won't it shatter if you drop it?"
"Ceramic = Heavy as hell? no?"
Granted, they are stating it in a question form, showing they truly don't know **** about ceramics and their wide array of characteristics. At least there are some other comment posters that know about ceramics and will hopefully quell the blind ignorance. It just amuses me when people spew about a product and bash it about something that they are completely wrong about. People need t do more research.
Lastly, I love when people bash a phone over it's size. That's just blatant bias in the most obvious form.
"I don't see the value in making the screen 4.8" (what happened to normal sized phones?)"
4.8" may not be normal to some, but it is perfectly normal to somebody with large hands such as myself. In fact, using an iPhone is cumbersome to me, so their normal sized phone is in fact "not normal" to me. I hate when people state their own opinions and biases as fact. I will see my note as a big middle finger to all people who care about my phone's size. It's my phone, piss off and worry about your own life. I already have people shocked with the size of my Infuse, and I just laugh saying it's the best phone I've ever used by far, mostly due to the size. However, that is not true for everybody, and I let them know that I like the size of such phones because my hands are huge.
How can you state something like the "phone is too big"? It should be, "this phone is too big for me." See what I did there? removing bias makes your statements so much less controversial and fanboy hate-inducing. Most of these people fail to realize that nobody really gives a flying fack about some other random person's opinion on the internet. Or at least they shoudn't, but sadly (or maybe more entertainingly) people get dragged into arguments on tech blogs all due to the fact that they cannot recognize bias and opinion, and cannot distinguish between those and fact. I can't believe these tech sites get away with so much heavy bias and still continue to rack up the views. Granted, I contributed a view, but an unbiased one at that.
I don't have any problem with people commenting on these sites with their opinions about a device, but they should leave it at that, an opinion, and not try to state it as fact. Overall, I am proud of Android users in the way that they tend to be the more calm, collect, and unbiased commenters compared to a lot of iSheep. Both sides have their radicals, but I think the Apple slaves tip the scales with crazy. Haha. Provides good entertainment to say the least. =]
Err0xx said:
The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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I'm glad someone with TF201 experience spoke up, I still want to see a TF700 series with its 1080p display+improved GPS-wireless.
In all the coverage at MWC of quad core phones with these smallish batteries, I'm still surprised there aren't more inquiries into battery life specs..especially with LTE.
BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for the I717?
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BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for
the I717?
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
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No LTE switch hacks?
"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
Price
what will be the price of this phone??
Scythe024 said:
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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The Qualcomm dual core beats the nvidia quad core in benchmarks.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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better camera sensors are great but would be nice to see optics upgraded and talked about more. Megapixles and sensors are important but optics are what makes great pics.
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Made this thread, so people could decide whether or not to buy the Skyrocket without people trying to push their opinions on people.
Facts:
- 800x480 pixels*
- Super AMOLED Plus*
- 4.5 inch display*
- Approximately 4.66 oz.*
- 5.15 inches x 2.75 inches x 0.37 inches*
- 1.5 GHz dual-core processor (UNKNOWN WHICH---Do not listen to anyone claiming to know which one) *
- ??? amount of RAM, may be 1.3gb or 1024mb
- 4x Digital*
- 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash
-*2-megapixel front-facing camera
-*These specs are from Samsung's webpage, not recommended to trust other websites, as they have as little info as we do.
Unconfirmed:
- Snapdragon Chipset
- Exynos Chipset
Will update as soon as new info is available.
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(UNKNOWN WHICH---Do not listen to anyone claiming to know which one)
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I'll bet you the cost of your phone that it's Qualcomm. There is no 1.5Ghz Exynos - it's either 1.2Ghz or 1.4Ghz. The same thing happened with TSGS2 when they didn't initially announce which chipset it had. In all cases, when a phone's been Exynos, they've said so in advance. But, as you've said, don't listen to me.
BarryH_GEG said:
I'll bet you the cost of your phone that it's Qualcomm. There is no 1.5Ghz Exynos - it's either 1.2Ghz or 1.4Ghz. The same thing happened with TSGS2 when they didn't initially announce which chipset it had. In all cases, when a phone's been Exynos, they've said so in advance. But, as you've said, don't listen to me.
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You know that there's a possibility that it is neither? Yeah there's a high possibility that's a snappy, but till' they announce it, all we're doing is speculating.
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Honestly, what do you guys do with these phones that you NEED the BEST cpu speed and ram out there? Pr0n doesn't require much more than flash support. lol
Chances are they are using the same device as the Rogers LTE version which is the Galaxy S II LTE which is already out in Korean, that device is using a Qualcomm 1.5 DualCore Snapdragon just like the T-Mobile GSII The specs alone speak the world about it already.
Considering Samsung won't make multiple LTE versions you can rely in the specs that are already out there for the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE or the HD version of that one. In the end you have to look at what mobile processors are out there with that chipset speed. Considering the Eyxnos doesn't have a 1.5 Ghz variant the Qualcomm is a safe bet.
xAnimal5 said:
Made this thread, so people could decide whether or not to buy the Skyrocket without people trying to push their opinions on people.
Facts:
- 800x480 pixels*
- Super AMOLED Plus*
- 4.5 inch display*
- Approximately 4.66 oz.*
- 5.15 inches x 2.75 inches x 0.37 inches*
- 1.5 GHz dual-core processor (UNKNOWN WHICH---Do not listen to anyone claiming to know which one) *
- ??? amount of RAM, may be 1.3gb or 1024mb
- 4x Digital*
- 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash
-*2-megapixel front-facing camera
-*These specs are from Samsung's webpage, not recommended to trust other websites, as they have as little info as we do.
Unconfirmed:
- Snapdragon Chipset
- Exynos Chipset
Will update as soon as new info is available.
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Except if you look at the Specs for the already out LTE versions it states those use a Qualcomm Chipset. They aren't going to change it up that much, you re-purpose what you have, don't create a whole new device just for one carrier.
If 99% of the specs match up to an already in production device, chances are the other 1% match up as well.
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You know that there's a possibility that it is neither? Yeah there's a high possibility that's a snappy, but till' they announce it, all we're doing is speculating.
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I'll bet you the cost of your phone that it's Qualcomm. There is no 1.5Ghz Exynos - it's either 1.2Ghz or 1.4Ghz. The same thing happened with TSGS2 when they didn't initially announce which chipset it had. In all cases, when a phone's been Exynos, they've said so in advance. But, as you've said, don't listen to me.
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There is an Exynos 1.5ghz. The Exynos 4212. Announced 2 months ago...climb back under your rock.
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Stevenrogers_420 said:
There is an Exynos 1.5ghz. The Exynos 4212. Announced 2 months ago...climb back under your rock.
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You are right, there was one announced, but it's too late for the LTE version of the GSII. Remember just because a device/processor is announced doesn't mean it's being put into production right away. Think about this, the 1.5 was announced on October 1st. AT&T wouldn't be pushing out a device with an untested processor right away. They need to test a device for MONTHS before doing that. Factor in the timeframe from announcement to putting into production, then you may have a month timeframe, not enough time for AT&T to test a device to their standards. The Exynos will NOT be in this device.
Samsung isn't going to make a custom GSII LTE just for AT&T they will use what they already have. All the specs match up to the current GSII LTE including processor speed, by that reasoning the device will be the same specs as such.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/01/samsung-releases-1-5ghz-exynos-processor-and-16mp-cmos-for-mobil/
Samsung's just announced the newest and fastest version of its Exynos mobile processor. The 4212 is a dual-core ARM Cortex A9 clocked to 1.5GHz, built using a 32mn process that makes it 30 percent more efficient and 25 percent faster than the 4210. Last year's model was capable of many impressive feats, but its 3D abilities were hampered by the limits imposed by its HDMI 1.3 controller. The new boy gets version 1.4 and hence the freedom to run stereoscopic imagery at an impressive 70fps. The chips will be available in Q4 of this year, but only to "select customers" who -- we guess -- look after Mr and Mrs. Samsung's cats over the holidays. The chip comes too late for the Galaxy S II LTE but we can expect to see it in future superphones before too long.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I'll bet you the cost of your phone that it's Qualcomm. There is no 1.5Ghz Exynos - it's either 1.2Ghz or 1.4Ghz. The same thing happened with TSGS2 when they didn't initially announce which chipset it had. In all cases, when a phone's been Exynos, they've said so in advance. But, as you've said, don't listen to me.
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I would like in on this bet too? My SGS2 against your qualcomm SGS2? I would like your phone so let me know. I can sell it to some other sucker and buy another OG SGS2. So let me know soon. Thanks
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RockRatt said:
I would like in on this bet too? My SGS2 against your qualcomm SGS2? I would like your phone so let me know. I can sell it to some other sucker and buy another OG SGS2. So let me know soon. Thanks
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I'll be glad to take yours off your hands if you think there is going to be a 1.5 Exynos in the phone. No worries I will be gentle with your phone.
Stevenrogers_420 said:
...climb back under your rock.
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Then take my bet...
You're all boobs. Lol.
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"select customers" - do you HONESTLY think that AT&T, the launch partner for Samsung's biggest competitor, and a carrier that has shown CLEAR favoritism towards Apple for the past few years, is considered a "select customer" by Samsung?
Hell, we're lucky we didn't get the crippled Tegra2 variant of the non-LTE GSII that was reserved for "third world" markets. Seriously - there was a LOT of worry that the I777 would have a Tegra2.
The AT&T website....which I looked at while ""IN" the store showed a 1.3 gb of ram.... the manager, and another good friend (that works in the store) had quoted it is the exynos chipset....I hope so...that would be the selling point for me
vuoflfan said:
The AT&T website....which I looked at while ""IN" the store showed a 1.3 gb of ram.... the manager, and another good friend (that works in the store) had quoted it is the exynos chipset....I hope so...that would be the selling point for me
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Hopefully
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vuoflfan said:
The AT&T website....which I looked at while ""IN" the store showed a 1.3 gb of ram.... the manager, and another good friend (that works in the store) had quoted it is the exynos chipset....I hope so...that would be the selling point for me
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As an ex AT&T Employee, I can say that reps in the store know jack ****.
Also the only reference on att.com to the Skyrocket is in the press release that shows ANYTHING specwise. Not sure what site you looked at but that's about all that has been released specwise, which matches up with Samsungs Galaxy S II LTE version which is already released in Korea WITH the Qualcomm Chipset
Samsung Galaxy S™ II Skyrocket™
Lightning fast reflexes powered by a 1.5 GHz dual core processor and AT&T 4G LTE speeds make the Galaxy S II Skyrocket faster for Web browsing and all your favorite apps. A SuperAMOLED Plus display spanning 4.5-inches is the brightest, most colorful screen on the market.
4.5-inch SuperAMOLED Plus display(800x480 pixels)
Android Gingerbread (2.3.5)
1.5 GHz dual-core processor
8-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash, with 2-megapixel front-facing camera
1080p HD video recording
16 GB of on-board memory, microSD expandable to an additional 32 GB
The Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket will arrive in AT&T company-owned retail stores and online Nov. 6 for $249.99 with a two-year commitment. Customers can learn more at www.att.com/speed.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Then take my bet...
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I'll be the middle man.
Anyway, is anyone contemplating between HTC Vivid or Skyrocket? Really cant decide right now.
Entropy512 said:
"select customers" - do you HONESTLY think that AT&T, the launch partner for Samsung's biggest competitor, and a carrier that has shown CLEAR favoritism towards Apple for the past few years, is considered a "select customer" by Samsung?
Hell, we're lucky we didn't get the crippled Tegra2 variant of the non-LTE GSII that was reserved for "third world" markets. Seriously - there was a LOT of worry that the I777 would have a Tegra2.
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Not even just that, I totally didn't read the full quote. The quote states the chipset won't be produced to Q4. Says it all. No 1.5 Exynos
naturefreak85 said:
I'll be glad to take yours off your hands if you think there is going to be a 1.5 Exynos in the phone. No worries I will be gentle with your phone.
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Wait that was my bet!!! My att SGS2 with the exerynos chip against the person who THINKS it will be the 1.5Ghz exerynos... it wont be and can't be... it is gonna be the same as the OTHER qualcomm Ltd phones out there already.
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You guys interpreted what you read wrong, misleading information to others. Samsung announced their 1.5 exynos chip last month, that's all they did "ANNOUNCE". Where in the press release did they say its not ready or they still working at it? For all we know it could be on any of the upcoming phone including the skyrocket? Do you guys work for Samsung? Just because they Announce it last month that does not mean it has not been in production for months or in testing again for months. Who knows? again only "Samsung'' That been said I highly doubt is the exynos chip inside the skyrocket. As of yet it has not been confirm. I hope it is though
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You guys interpreted what you read wrong, misleading information to others. Samsung announced their 1.5 exynos chip last month, that's all they did "ANNOUNCE". Where in the press release did they say its not ready or they still working at it? For all we know it could be on any of the upcoming phone including the skyrocket? Do you guys work for Samsung? Just because they Announce it last month that does not mean it has not been in production for months or in testing again for months. Who knows? again only "Samsung'' That been said I highly doubt is the exynos chip inside the skyrocket. As of yet it has not been confirm. I hope it is though
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From the press release:
" Samsung’s new Exynos 4212 application processor will be sampling to select customers in Q4 2011. "
That means that selected customers (which ATT is probably not top tier) will get samples of the technology to start looking at in Q4. Even if ATT was lucky enough to get their hands on a sample on October 1st do you really think that they could have tested, customized, ordered and mass produced a brand new phone by Nov. 6th?
The same ATT that took over 6 months to bring the OG SGSII to market with very minor changes? The same ATT that still hasn't released Gingerbread for their version of the Galaxy S that has been available for over a year?
Don't have to work for Samsung for this one to add up.
Now is it impossible? NO. But winning the lottery and retiring tomorrow is not impossible either, but I am not holding my breath
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Sweet, we know it exists. I'd be nice if HTC told us when to expect it. Any idea?
They won't officially say when, until they are ready to deliver it, except in very general terms like 3Q 2112 2012...
Edit** Might be 100 years...
krelvinaz said:
They won't officially say when, until they are ready to deliver it, except in very general terms like 3Q 2112...
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Damn 100 years from now :/
it'll most likely make it's debut in quad-core phones around sep/oct+ and if it comes to the rezound(may not though) it won't happen until 2013.
I say we'll see Sense 4.0 officially the same time we see ICS officially, which is probably late spring, early summer.
I don't know if we are getting sense 4.0, that might only be reserved for s4 processors and tegra 3
I'm living on a yellow submarine
I forsee Sense 3.6 ontop of 4.0.1. HTC's response " Got One X?"
Don't we have a 4.0.3 leak already?
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EmerikL said:
Don't we have a 4.0.3 leak already?
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Yeah we do. Just saying it would be pretty funny if HTC did that lololol. 3.6 ontop of 4.0.1. If that happens we know the T in HTC stands for troll.
Why is it on HTC's website that the one x has a dual s4 processor 1.5 GHz and not a tegra 3
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because, in america, it's being released as a dual 1.5 instead of the quad..don't ask me why lol
Cause Tegra 3 isn't LTE compatible.
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jayochs said:
because, in america, it's being released as a dual 1.5 instead of the quad..don't ask me why lol
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Saw that a little while ago. That's only going to accelerate the bad attitude towards HTC that's been building lately. So much for their flagship phones in 2012 promise, huh?
That's good for my psyche though. My jealousy meter pegged at 0 once I heard that. Not to mention ATT (I've had no real issues with them, but I've always worked out in the sticks where only E is available).
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Saw that a little while ago. That's only going to accelerate the bad attitude towards HTC that's been building lately. So much for their flagship phones in 2012 promise, huh?
That's good for my psyche though. My jealousy meter pegged at 0 once I heard that. Not to mention ATT (I've had no real issues with them, but I've always worked out in the sticks where only E is available).
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Not HTC's fault that Nvidia couldn't deliver LTE compatibility. If you're going to bash on HTC.. Why not get a different brand of phone? That's the wonders of Android! Choices! TBH we won't even need quadcore on our devices.. It's a huge unecessary hardware bump used to cover up crappy coding that Google still hasn't fixed. It's just the nature of the beast know as Android. The dualcore coming up in the one X blows away our dualcore in benches. But for everyday performance probably no difference. I'm going to just post this http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2 so your jealousy meter will go back up .
im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
bal1985 said:
im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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For everyday usage you won't notice a damn difference between the two. At this point I feel that all dual core phones are unecessary. There's just nothing in the market that really challenges the current devices on the market. All I can really see is use quadcore bench, flex epeen at smartphone benches = win? If you're talking about performance differences don't even sweat. I'm sure there will be better 3D performance on the s4 and tegra 3, but original point, nothing on the market to challenge our hardware. If you're talking about physical architecural differences in each processor, check out the wikis for each perspective processor.
honestly, i don't even care. those new phones, from the start, i KNEW were going to be for ATT or Tmo..look at the design, it's just like HTC's stuff on those carriers anyway..verizon's HTC stuff looks much different.
either way, i'm not upset in having the rezound, because honestly, it's perfect. i highly doubt any of that stuff is that much of a big step up from the rezound, so i'm def not feeling any buyers remorse lol
True that. We have the best hardware. Still....I had a rezound....took it back. Got a gnex...then ditched it for a rezound. I think this is the perfect phone. Its sturdy, and has what I want. Beats, great camera, and it has good radios...
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bal1985 said:
im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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I think i read something on either Phandroid or AndroidCentral when the S4 was announced that it actually out-benched the Tegra. If nothing else, it was close.
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I think i read something on either Phandroid or AndroidCentral when the S4 was announced that it actually out-benched the Tegra. If nothing else, it was close.
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Hence the link that Zets just linked a few posts up. The S4 chip (which I was initially hoping the Rezound was going to be released with) is pretty bad ass and is some competition with that Quad from Invidia. I am just wondering what the power consumption would be like with the Nvidia (Quad plus one) and the Dual of the S4 chip. Curious how this will play out...
All in all, just as others have stated, these newer phones have a marginal increase in horsepower compared to the Rezound and that's pretty much it besides being released with Sense 4.0. I'll sit back and enjoy my Rez for a bit longer than I expected and happy to do so.
Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?
According to this article, it's true. Featured: Verizon wireless turns down HTC’s ONE series in favor of Droid Incredible 4G LTE
There are some similarities between the incredible 4G and the one series of devices. The incredible 4G will carry beats audio, support for HTC’s Media Link video system, and will run on Android’s newest version of the operating system 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. While it shares these traits however, some things are different as it will not house the same 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon S4 from qualcomm, but a slower 1.2 ghz dual core model. It also doesn’t use the image sense camera processor that is found in the One line of devices.
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So not only will it not have the ImageSense chip, but it will also not have the beastly s4 chip either. I don't see how this would be any sort of upgrade over the Rezound. The only thing it has going for it is native sense 4.0(although our Sense 4.0 ROMS are coming along great),bettery battery life(due to lower pixel density screen and larger mAh battery), and a 4" screen(for those that prefer it). The only thing I can infer is that the article meant to state that it was the same S4 chip, but just an underclocked version. Let's hope I'm right.
Edit: I've been aware that there are many different versions of the s4 chips, so it still is the s4. My apologies.
It's still an S4, just running at 1.2Ghz.
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It's still an S4, just running at 1.2Ghz.
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This article says otherwise.
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This article says otherwise.
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its an s4 clocked at 1.2, same chip, different clock speed, probably to improve battery life.
It almost sounds like a S3.5
graymonkey44 said:
This article says otherwise.
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It states it's getting a slower dual core, it doesn't say it's not an S4...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/7/3006119/droid-incredible-4g-lte-hands-on
While not technically a "One" device from HTC, it nevertheless has respectable specs for a 2012 phone: 960 x 540 Super LCD, 1.2GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4, and Android 4.0 with HTC's latest iteration of Sense.
does that clear it up?
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its an s4 clocked at 1.2, same chip, different clock speed, probably to improve battery life.
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It says it "as it will not house the same 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon S4 from qualcomm". This can be interpretted that it doesn't have an s4 in it all together. Or that there are different versions of the s4 chip. I am aware that every other website states that it does have the s4 chip in it. I'm just questioning the inconsitency of this article or stating the possibility.
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It almost sounds like a S3.5
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Except for there's no such thing. It's an S4, just running at 1.2GHz.
There's lots of different versions of the S4, ranging from 1GHz all the way up to 1.7GHz.
Yeah, my apologies, there are 3 different s4 chips that have a 1.2 ghz processor. So it could be the MSM8230, MSM8630, or MSM8930.
It is still AN S4, just not the SAME S4. It is probably the 8930 instead of the One's 8960. Check this chart from Qualcomm:
developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
androidandme.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/snapdragon-s4-details.jpg
mobiletechworld.com/2011/07/05/new-qualcomm-2011-2012-roadmap-and-soc-specifications/
If it is the 8930, it would be a world phone, and the GPU would be not as nice as the 8960, but the memory is single channel instead of dual channel, and of course the display is qhd, and the camera isn't as tricked out.
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Yeah, my apologies, there are 3 different s4 chips that have a 1.2 ghz processor. So it could be the MSM8230, MSM8630, or MSM8930.
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First of all, I'm upset with the fact you would even post a thread that insinuates the Droid Inc 4G would NOT have an S4 when there has been no reports otherwise.
Second of all, you still don't know what your talking about listing random model numbers of upcoming S4 processors.
The 8230 is NOT an LTE chip, and neither is the 8630. The only possibility you mention is the the MSM8930, of which you fail to see the importance of such a claim. The MSM8930, as well as it's non-LTE brethren you also mentioned, has an Adreno 305 GPU. The Adreno 305 GPU would be the latest GPU we've seen in a while, which would lead to much more interest in the chipset of this phone.
Now I am not insinuating that the phone does have the MSM8930, I have no proof of that, though it does seem like that is a possibility, but it is also possible the phone has an underclocked version of another S4 for improved battery life.
Source 1: en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29
Source 2: developer.qualcomm .com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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boosthungry said:
First of all, I'm upset with the fact you would even post a thread that insinuates the Droid Inc 4G would NOT have an S4 when there has been no reports otherwise.
Second of all, you still don't know what your talking about listing random model numbers of upcoming S4 processors.
The 8230 is NOT an LTE chip, and neither is the 8630. The only possibility you mention is the the MSM8930, of which you fail to see the importance of such a claim. The MSM8930, as well as it's non-LTE brethren you also mentioned, has an Adreno 305 GPU. The Adreno 305 GPU would be the latest GPU we've seen in a while, which would lead to much more interest in the chipset of this phone.
Now I am not insinuating that the phone does have the MSM8930, I have no proof of that, though it does seem like that is a possibility, but it is also possible the phone has an underclocked version of another S4 for improved battery life.
Source 1: en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29
Source 2: developer.qualcomm .com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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MSM8930 does look like the only option for LTE+CDMA @ 1.2Ghz
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MSM8930 does look like the only option for LTE+CDMA @ 1.2Ghz
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Which would make it another world phone. Assuming the radios and antennas support it.
tekhna said:
Which would make it another world phone. Assuming the radios and antennas support it.
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Probably. But if they don't want it to be a world phone like the Rezound (obviously they decided against it at some point) they will probably leave out the required antennas or radio code.
fernando sor said:
Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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this assumes that everyone's desire for a phone is a bigger screen and higher resolution....which isn't the case
personally i like the 4 inch screen over bigger ones, and i have a tablet if i need to watch videos/browse on a huge screen
screen aside, its hard to call the other specs a "huge step back"...you could be disappointed that its not some *superphone* that blows away anything that came before it but it still has
1gb of ram (same as all other top tier phones)
s4 processor (yes less powerful than one x doesnt need to power a 4.7 inch hd screen)
only 2nd vzw phone (and first non nexus) to launch with ics
bluetooth 4.0
nfc
the combination of a qhd screen and its processor should yield (read should) very good battery life for a lte htc phone
obviously if you have a rezound, its not going to be worth an upgrade in all likelyhood (unless you just dont like the rezound for w/e reason), but frustration aside at not getting a one x or equivalent on vzw theres no reason to trash the phone
the complaints sound similar to ones hurled at the inc2, and despite its relative lack of popularity it was a very solid, snappy mid-tier phone with awesome battery life...so if this its lte equivalent, count me in
This IS the vzw one series. Vzw is butthurt about their DROID line so they gave ir that title. I its like the evo 4G lte. Still considered part of the one series, and just not officially with that name. I and it's an s4 just clocked at 1.2. They will be able to oc it in like a week though so it doesn't matter.
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fernando sor said:
Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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nitsuj17 said:
this assumes that everyone's desire for a phone is a bigger screen and higher resolution....which isn't the case
personally i like the 4 inch screen over bigger ones, and i have a tablet if i need to watch videos/browse on a huge screen
screen aside, its hard to call the other specs a "huge step back"...you could be disappointed that its not some *superphone* that blows away anything that came before it but it still has
1gb of ram (same as all other top tier phones)
s4 processor (yes less powerful than one x doesnt need to power a 4.7 inch hd screen)
only 2nd vzw phone (and first non nexus) to launch with ics
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the combination of a qhd screen and its processor should yield (read should) very good battery life for a lte htc phone
obviously if you have a rezound, its not going to be worth an upgrade in all likelyhood (unless you just dont like the rezound for w/e reason), but frustration aside at not getting a one x or equivalent on vzw theres no reason to trash the phone
the complaints sound similar to ones hurled at the inc2, and despite its relative lack of popularity it was a very solid, snappy mid-tier phone with awesome battery life...so if this its lte equivalent, count me in
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agree. 720p screen is nice, but it seems to kill battery. I still prefer the 4.3 over 4, but other specs are on par or better than rezound.
antp121 said:
This IS the vzw one series. Vzw is butthurt about their DROID line so they gave ir that title. I its like the evo 4G lte. Still considered part of the one series, and just not officially with that name. I and it's an s4 just clocked at 1.2. They will be able to oc it in like a week though so it doesn't matter.
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No, that's not the case at all. Verizon came out and said so. It doesn't share specs with any One device. I used to think that too, but its clear now that the Dinc4g is not a One device. It's a Dinc.
I haven't really been keeping up with the new phones and the ones coming out, I had no intention of selling my amaze anytime soon.. but I found this page(http://www.digitaltrends.com/highlight/t-mobile/) and saw they are still listing our amaze - I thought for sure websites would have stopped pushing it.. then I saw that tmobile is now selling the amaze for free! Damn you tmo!
But I was wondering what people thought about other phones that are coming out? I did some light researching and the galaxy s3 euro version looks pretty nice, with the quad core - why the US versions they keep pulling that out, I have no idea.. but 2100mah battery (that can be accessed!) and external sd, the camera pics and video look good(but still not as good as ours) - overall it seems a good competitor.
But rather than do tons more research, I'm sure some people here have some phones they are salivating about, or perhaps pissed off(dual core S2 for the US, wtf?!) about.. and I figured I'd say hi here rather than just stalk the development forums like usual!
So what's good?
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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For all phone goodies I check gsmarena.com
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Im going to wait for the Samsung note 2 with hopes that it will be sold in T-Mobile and quad-core.
fuego77 said:
I'm keeping it simple, first quad core HTC phone T-Mobile gets will be mine! Keeping my amaze until then
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that is about how I feel, but I'm not a true htc cannot yet.. so I won't discriminate yet. My old vibrant was okay, but I felt the quality was low enough I'd be hesitant to go with Samsung again..
Everyone else is fair game, if another manufacturer makes a quality quad core, that is when I'd consider a jump from the amaze.. but I haven't been doing a lot of research into what is coming out till now.
And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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And can ANYONE explain why these manufacturers thing quad core is good over seas, but dual core is what WE want? Or do they think we'll just buy it if they just sell it!?
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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That's because we US folks complain about battery life all the f**** time. Many will even sacrifice performance for battery life like underclocking the Amaze from 1.5 to 1.2Ghz. Sarcastically speaking... these folks will buy a quad-core only to find themselves again complain about battery life. What do they do? They will downgrade to dual-core to have a couple of more hours of battery. Companies are hearing these folks.
Flame on folks. Lol
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that is true. But with the Galaxy s3 coming out with dual core here in the U.S, main reason is quad core exynos doesn't support LTE just yet.
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wait for one of the AOSP devices coming to Tmobile. Show these manufacturers that they need to stop focusing on coding unnecessary skins and leave the Android system vanilla, and instead focus on making better hardware that utilizes the power of the processing chips more efficiently in the way that WP phones do out of the box. and better cameras, better quality materials and most importantly, maximizing battery life.
i know i'll be going for whatever Jelly Bean device i'm assuming Tmobile will get. if not i'll just purchase whatever GSM unlocked one Google Play decides to sell.
Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Actually the reason why they us in the US are getting dual cores and not quads is due to a chipset issue, apparently only qualcom has the rights/patents to make modems for US bands, mainly the HSPA+ and LTE band we use, so in order to use those bands on the original chipset that they use for the international version, they'll have to add an extra chipset, the qualcom chipset modem, which will give you the US radio, but will increase battery use, which basically no company wants, apple does this but it's kicking their ass as well with multiple chipsets in a device. So you gotta thank US patents/copyrights along with qualcom for us being stuck with a dual core and at the rate things are going, we'll be pretty much stuck with what qualcom puts out yearly in our devices for quite a few years to come. Though if T-Mobile refarms that 1900 band we should be able to start picking up a few international versions and using them on T-Mobile, though I doubt T-Mobile as a carrier is gonna offer them if they're not packing 42mbps, until they throw out LTE.
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Right on! All issues can be overcome if they really want it badly. It's a matter of time. Business wise, time is what many companies cannot afford due to competition. Supply and demand in an overly competitive industry is at stake.
I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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Actually, you made some really valid points - I was talking to someone yesterday about how technology hasn't really improved THAT much in the last 20+ years besides a few things, pretty much everything is the same and it is just getting smaller and faster.. and that is more so true at this point. Phones, computers, until they do something different or better, the increases in speed is becoming meaningless.
For me the selling point on the quad core is the 5th core with the lower clock speed that handles the non-heavy lifting and is supposed to increase battery. I would probably just shut off 2 of the cores and keep that benefit.. If you actually understand how multi-core cpus work then you know that they each handle a different thread(or task) - it has no benefit having more than 2 cores unless there are more than 2 things that need to be done at once(like processing video and audio at the same time).
The BIGGEST change I would like to see with all of these advances in technology - make a better battery. The military has several battery technologies that are far more efficient than what we have access to.. as soon as those things go public, THEN we might have some true awesomeness.. until then we can only make things faster and/or more efficient.
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I haven't seen anything I'd like to upgrade to. The amaze is more then capable for what I need out of a phone, and will be plenty fast for the next year. Phones just aren't progressing as fast as they did even a couple years back. When I first got my hero there was a newer faster phone out almost monthly. Even with quad core, yes it may be faster on paper, 'woohoo quadrant drag racing my phone beat your phone', but when it comes to day to day use how much faster can you really go? My hero, when I first played with it I could see room for improvement, with the amaze, not so much.
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I couldn't agree more !
So much, I will more than likely keep this phone till next contract, which is a year plus away. Does everything I need.
I probably stand a lone ground on this, but with what I said up top.....I would consider a BB10 phone as long as it is QWERTY. Really miss my physical keyboard. If they can bring some better apps to the table with a decent screen and still decent battery, I may switch. I don't care about market share ....I get what I want, not what is in....
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As soon as they finish setting up the 1900 service, I will be buying an iPhone. Hopefully the iPhone 5 came out by then.