[Q] Surface Hardness of the AT&T Note's glass screen is? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

anyone know the surface hardness for our screen's? i'm still in shock mine is deeply scratched already. screen protector will arrive 1 week too late
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It's Corning Gorilla Glass so you can go to their website and download the technical data sheets if you want to know.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/characteristics

no mention of "surface hardness" there.
anyone?

What happened to get your glass scratched?

ARTAQaf said:
anyone know the surface hardness for our screen's? i'm still in shock mine is deeply scratched already. screen protector will arrive 1 week too late
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I noticed slight scratches from the stylus on mine. My screen protector was a day late too, D'oH!!! You'd think that the stylus wouldn't scratch it
If you're looking to get rid of minor scratches you can try some 3M polish like this person tried. I'm thinking about getting some to get the screen back to a more pristine condition and re-apply the screen protector.
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Using the info that thread of gorilla glas = = alkali-aluminosilicate may yield better search results. I found a PDF that has some info but no direct surface hardness mentioned in the paper.
Also the gorilla glass wiki has a range of different hardnesses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Glass

Through all my own anecdotal evidence, I've come to the conclusion that a portion of corning's production method leaves something to be desired in terms of consistency. Throughout the internet, threads can be found that go something like:
"I thought this pos had Gorilla Glass!!!! It scratches way to $$&*% easily!!!"
"My phone has been through hell with no case or screen protector and no scratches! You must've done something unreasonable!!!"
I've seen this everywhere, about almost every phone, and have come to this conclusion. Even my own g glass phones have varied wildly in scratch resistance. I still prefer having gorilla glass, but I do think it's a bit hit-or-miss.

i had my phone for 2 days and it got 2 scratches just from being in the pockets of my sweatpants. i took it back to best buy and got another one and had them immediately put on a screen protector.
the glass isn't nearly as scratch resistant as my HTC inspire. i had it for a year and only had 1 scratch.

EvoXOhio said:
i had my phone for 2 days and it got 2 scratches just from being in the pockets of my sweatpants. i took it back to best buy and got another one and had them immediately put on a screen protector.
the glass isn't nearly as scratch resistant as my HTC inspire. i had it for a year and only had 1 scratch.
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My note has been through worse and is absolutely perfect! See my previous post .

kimocal said:
I noticed slight scratches from the stylus on mine. My screen protector was a day late too, D'oH!!! You'd think that the stylus wouldn't scratch it
If you're looking to get rid of minor scratches you can try some 3M polish like this person tried. I'm thinking about getting some to get the screen back to a more pristine condition and re-apply the screen protector.
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Using the info that thread of gorilla glas = = alkali-aluminosilicate may yield better search results. I found a PDF that has some info but no direct surface hardness mentioned in the paper.
Also the gorilla glass wiki has a range of different hardnesses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Glass
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The 'scratches' from your stylus are most likely in the coating on the surface of the glass, not the actual glass. Even regular glass isn't scratched by plastic. Rubbing some finger grease into them should fill them back in. I've noticed similar behavior on my Infuse, and they tend to go away as oils from my fingers fill them in.

my scratch is deep enough to feel with my fingernail...i dont think the 3M polish is meant for a scratch this deep from what i read on the link. thanks tho!

welchertc said:
Rubbing some finger grease into them should fill them back in. I've noticed similar behavior on my Infuse, and they tend to go away as oils from my fingers fill them in.
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I tried that and they still didn't go away. With the screen protector on though they are not noticeable. When I re-fit/replace the current screen protector I'll double check the "finger grease" theory

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Brando screen protector

The ultra clear Brando screen protector for hd
1 It fits perfect (because is 1/2 mm smaller than the original and it fits perfect at the edges)
2 Covers the entire screen
3 it disappears the Whiteness under big viewing angles (this phenomenon appears with the original screenprotector )
Can you post, link or price, or...
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02912&dept_id=039&cat_id=0980
I'm wondering which one should i get, the screen protector or the invisible shield?
i bought brando ultraclear. Now i'm waiting
I just ordered it as well.
Looks cool and got a lot positive reviews. Should be ok than
The Brando Ultra Clear fits perfect on the Touch HD.
For me I use the Brando´s screen protectors for years and I think it´s the best you can get.
I have the Ultraclear and found it is about 1mm too short - it leaves a very small amount of fascia just below the buttons unprotected.
That said, it is better than the rubbish one that comes in the box.
If you are in the UK, they are available from Inkino from stock.
I bought mine from xpansys which is quite good, fits brilliantly & covers full screen exactly. you get two in the pack
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=173045
apd said:
I have the Ultraclear and found it is about 1mm too short - it leaves a very small amount of fascia just below the buttons unprotected.
That said, it is better than the rubbish one that comes in the box.
If you are in the UK, they are available from Inkino from stock.
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I agree it's too small, but much better then the htc one.
im also thinking of getting that screen protector. but yall saying is doesn't fit the whole screen. is it noticeable. can you guys show a pics with the screen protector on the phone. thanks in advance.
My Brando Ultra Clear arrived in yesterday's mail from Hong Kong. Now I feel like a total idiot ... I can't get this @&%@ thing to stick down and stay on the screen. How on earth does it attach? There's no adhesive or sticky side. I've spent an hour trying to fit it to the Touch HD. Lots of bubbles - the screen looks like it has leprosy. I've washed it, cleaned it, tried everything I know.
HELP! Please!!
BTW, it has a cut-out for the light sensor, but not for the front cam (which the stock HTC one has).
is Brando's soft film?
This screen protector is 100x better than the stock one, in my opinion. Here's a picture for size reference
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Yes indeed...I can see...it fits very well...no edges...
AFW said:
My Brando Ultra Clear arrived in yesterday's mail from Hong Kong. Now I feel like a total idiot ... I can't get this @&%@ thing to stick down and stay on the screen. How on earth does it attach? There's no adhesive or sticky side. I've spent an hour trying to fit it to the Touch HD. Lots of bubbles - the screen looks like it has leprosy. I've washed it, cleaned it, tried everything I know.
HELP! Please!!
BTW, it has a cut-out for the light sensor, but not for the front cam (which the stock HTC one has).
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Are you trying to put on the actual screen protector or the piece of film that covers the protector when you open that pack? I was doing this myself for a couple of minutes, if its the top cover then its quite rubbery and green tinted, the actual screen protector is probably still stuck to the back cover of the protector still as mine was.
As for the Brando protector once it's on its a lot more impressive than the HTC one from the box, there is a very tiny gap at the bottom of the screen but less than a mm and doesn't affect useage.
KASM said:
Are you trying to put on the actual screen protector or the piece of film that covers the protector when you open that pack?
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Thanks for replying, KASM! No, I'm using the clear Utra Clear itself and not the bluey-green film that protects the protector. The instructions say that one should fit the protector to the device and then remove the green film. I tried that, with no success whatsoever. After fiddling for a while the clear protector had fingerprint smudges, so I washed it (without the device, as the instructions recommend ), dried it with a hairdryer (as recommended) and tried for another hour.
This is rather infuriating as I'm considered rather handy with little tech thingies ... I can't quite change a transistor on the silicon, but doing electronics is a doddle, so why the [email protected]#& is this giving me such grief...
AFW, did you try the other side of this screen-protector?
Cos normally they have that sticky surface covered by this blueish-greenish film
Although I got mine on with little fuss, I must have made a hash of cleaning the screen as it shows as lots of dust particles underneath the SP, have to do the damn thing again after cleaning it.
Determined to get it right after spending so much on a piece of plastic.
KASM said:
Although I got mine on with little fuss, I must have made a hash of cleaning the screen as it shows as lots of dust particles underneath the SP, have to do the damn thing again after cleaning it.
Determined to get it right after spending so much on a piece of plastic.
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Mine arrived this afternoon BUT after a number of failed attempts to get a perfect fit I think I might need to give the screen protector a wash
Does anyone have any tips on the best way to wash the screen protector before I try to reapply it (I suspect that flinging it in the washing machine isn't considered a good move )
I am waiting for my ultra-clear, i beg on my knees somebody with a "BRANDO deployment certification" to kindly explain the process so that i avoid to put my self-confidence at stake!

[Mini-Review] Zagg InvisibleShield Screen Protector

After swooning over my Amaze's screen for a week, I decided it would be wise to "not be a fool and cover your tool" as they so cleverly reminded us in sex ed. This in mind, I set out to find a screen protector that would keep my screen scratch free while showing off all 4.3 inches of it's beauty.
As it happened, my brother managed to snag me a Zagg InvisibleShield for somewhere in the range of $3 on a staff promotion. Normally InvisibleShields run you a pretty penny so naturally, my expectations were high.
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As is rather apparent, the product is well packaged and comes bundled with some nice additions including an oversize cleaning cloth, a rubber squeegee and a bottle of application fluid. Of course, packaging doesn't protect your phone so let's get to it shall we?
The application process is rather different from your run-of-the-mill screen protector. This tedious process involves spraying the solution on your hands as well as the actual protective film. Upon applying the wet film onto your screen, you can slide it into place while it's still wet; which is rather nice if you're OCD about placing it perfectly. Once in place, the squeegee is used to squeeze out the applicator fluid and any air bubbles; this bit makes me a bit nervous as electronics and liquids don't get on rather well. Nonetheless, once applied the underside of the screen guard appears cloudy though this clears up overnight.
So what about the actual performance of the product, you ask. Well, this is were it falls short. I have no doubt about the protective qualities of the InvisibleShield, it seems like it can hold up to some pretty harsh treatment, my issue however is with the actual appearance and feel. Unlike traditional screen protectors, Zagg's offering seems to take on an "orange peel" texture once applied and while it's not blatantly noticeable, it's rather unpleasant when visible. Worse yet, the product is rather prone to smudging and not the easiest to clean. The deal-breaker for me however is the actual feel of the product, it's noticeably more "tacky" than the naked screen and makes dragging your finger around a bit difficult and at times rather annoying; this however is a matter of personal preference so don't take my word as the gospel.
Overall, I'm rather disappointed with the InvisbleShield from Zagg. While at $3, I'll bite my tongue and use it, I certainly wouldn't be happy paying the full $19.99 for it!
As I mentioned, your mileage may vary and while I'm not a fan, you may well be so take my opinion for just that, an opinion.
Thanks for the review pal, I myself use a cheap anti-glare matte screen protector I got from eBay (I'm talking cheap, like, a couple bucks for 3), and was interested to see how it amounted to a supposedly higher-end screen protector
Right off the bat I can see the difference in packaging - mine was sent to me in the form of a letter, with the screen protectors sealed in a clear plastic slip inside the envelopes, both sides with even more clear plastic that is only removed upon application.
I'm most interested in the liquid solution they provide for you to put between the screen and the protector upon application since it seems to be pretty useful (I just wiped my screen down with rubbing alcohol, let it dry, and used my DSLR airblower to get any dust or lint off of the screen, then applied the protector with a card as the squeegee. Pretty ghetto, but it gets the job done
If you want a smoother texture with your screen protector, try a matte anti-glare one, it'll leave a tiny bit of pixel distortion on the screen but I simply can't use any other kind of screen protector after trying the matte ones
I'm not sure the solution does any more than allowing the adhesive to "loosen up" while you apply the screen protector.
As for the matte eBay screen protectors, I'm a huge fan! I bought a bunch for my Blackberry back in the day and they're:
- cheap
- perfect tactile feeling for touchscreens
- great at cutting down glare
Personally, I'd recommend cheapo screen protectors as they do the job without all the frills of something like this.
Realook is where its at. $10.00 for a 2 pack on Amazon
Wow! Nice write up! Although I'm a fan of zagg, everything you mentioned is true.
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ive bought and applied 4 zagg's to mine and my gf's amaze, and they've all turned out ****e.
im not a fan of the dry applications because its near impossible to do it immaculately, and the wet application seems to stay hazy.
after 4 attempts i just drove to the mall and bough ghost armor, best $20 ive spent on this phone.

Skinomi TechSkin Screen Protector is garbage - Scratched and scuffed from installing

Out of the 10 or so plastic style protectors I've installed over the years this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
I installed it just fine. As I start to squeegee out excess liquid and air bubbles, I notice that my credit card is scratching the protector like crazy. I check the card and it's smooth as any card, nothing sharp or rough.
I finished the install. An hour later I took a picture to show how defective and stupid this protector is. I emailed customer service asking why their protector is garbage. there is no response yet.
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Unoid said:
Out of the 10 or so plastic style protectors I've installed over the years this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
I installed it just fine. As I start to squeegee out excess liquid and air bubbles, I notice that my credit card is scratching the protector like crazy. I check the card and it's smooth as any card, nothing sharp or rough.
I finished the install. An hour later I took a picture to show how defective and stupid this protector is. I emailed customer service asking why their protector is garbage. there is no response yet.
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I've also dealt with crap like that on past devices with plastic screen protectors. Hope they refund you or something.
that happened to me on a playstation vita screen protector. as i was installing it it was scratching like crazy and i was having a hell of a time wrestling with the damn thing. this after countless screen protector installs. realized after a while that i was installing the protector backwards...
You should probably get a replacement, I don't think their instructions are very clear. Check out the installation video on the website. You have to cover the credit card with the included cleaning cloth.
I installed it on my Nexus 6 and it is barely noticeable, the only problem I had was that the front facing camera hole doesn't align properly.
Wow man, you must have been "squeeging" like there is no tomorrow. Anyway, I hope you get a refund.
Wrap your card or what ever in the cloth first. Never put the edge on the screen protector unless it's a glass one.
I'll ask for a replacement.
I've never had to wrap a card with any protector ever, even since I've been doing them on my Iphone 2g in 2008.
weird that it's such a weak product.
Here's a suggestion
Definitely see if you can get a replacement. But this is how i apply a screen to my phone every time it is needed or when I get a new device
Step 1.
Wash your hands thoroughly this will get rid of any natural oil build up on your finger tips.
Step 2
Get a bowl preferably some thing large enough to fit the screen protector on.
Step 3
Place some alcohol in the bowl enough just to cover the bottom of the bowl don't OD on this.
Step 4
Remove the first layer of protective plastic and place it in the bowl face down as you would apply it to your phone
Step 5
Clean the screen thoroughly with lint free or micro fiber cloth
Step 6
Retrieve your screen protector moisten your finger tips with alcohol to avoid having finger prints on the screen protector don't worry about it being wet you will need it to allow you to make corrections when applying you screen protector on you phone wipe any air bubbles and excess alcohol on the edge of the phone.
Last Step
Very important to let it dry or use a hair dryer if you can't wait for a few hours.
Like I said I get a perfect application every time using this method seems like a lot but it works.
Applied a Dbrand skin and then a skinomi over it. The key is to use a ridiculous amount of solution on the screen and the device. I keep a folded paper towel under the device and one near the edge I'm squeegeeing towards. Always dab when the solution bubbles over a speaker. When its done, it can also help to dry it as much as possible with a paper towel and then wrap with plastic wrap for less than an hour, then take it off to let it breathe and the solution will evaporate though the screen protector after a day or so.
I've scratched the crap out of my screen protector while squeegeeing too hard or with no lubrication.... There's always time for lubrication!
This is actually my favorite screen protector. I had to RMA my device and they are sending me another for free.
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Orzly® - Screen Protector For SONY XPERIA Z3 QUICK REVIEW !!

Orzly® - Screen Protector For SONY XPERIA Z3 REVIEW.
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Orzly® - Premium Tempered Glass 0.24mm Protective Screen Protector For SONY XPERIA Z3 Review.
1. 0.24mm Tempered Glass construction for enhanced impact resistance
2. Maintains perfect image clarity while protecting your phone's screen from scratches, bumps & knocks
3. Easy installation with no risk of bubbles
4. Includes cleaning cloth and application card
5. Anti-chip rounded edge improves gliding and grip experience.
6. Smudge and fingerprint resistant: Oleophobic coating reduces smudges and fingerprints, ensures easy cleaning
7. $15 on amazon
Before I continue let me just say that I’m not a screen protector kind of guy and I have used other products that ended up not lasting or peeling, but when I first read about the Orzly tempered glass I admit I was intrigue.
I received the Package a few days ago which was very nice for a simple screen protector, inside was a Orzly® Tempered Glass Screen Protector, alcohol towelette, microfiber cloth, 2 dust-removal adhesive strip, applicator / bubble-removal card and the instructions manual.
The From the minute I took it out the box I knew this was something different, it felt sturdy and extremely clear even with the sticky film still attached to it. I immediately went to YouTube and quickly watched the video on how to apply it once again just to make sure. I cleaned the screen on the phone real well using all the methods included in the package, the sticky strips worked very well at the end to remove final flying particles of dust. I must say it works as advertised, I placed the screen protector flat on the phone and pressed in the middle section only to watch the screen protector install itself just as the video showed. The corners are rounded to give it a better fit on the phone which also helps with some phone cases not lifting the corner edges. the final product is very nice and flat with out any bubbles or lifted areas, it almost feels as if the two layers fussed together.
Final Thoughts
The Orzly screen protector is definitely a keeper, it feels amazing to the touch retaining full functionality of the screen. The clarity is also very nice and to be honest I can’t tell the difference between the original screen and the Orzly layer. I highly recommend this screen protector to anyone with an Xperia Z3 looking for a premium product!!!!
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Good review. I will use the Orzly fusion case with this Orzly Screen Protector and it will be a good combo.
Great review. Im thinking of getting one as well but Im skeptic about it under water.
What about the back?
I will get the Orzly for the front but what about a glass protector for the back?
I was gonna buy this one but i went with the Nillkin but I'll try this one out if anything happen to where I need a replacement
Hardcore73 said:
I will get the Orzly for the front but what about a glass protector for the back?
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Just buy a cheap plastic one, it will do the job and improve the grip
scaleaton said:
I was gonna buy this one but i went with the Nillkin but I'll try this one out if anything happen to where I need a replacement
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I tried nillkin and now i'm with this...They're both good, maybe nillkin is a bit better but I'm not sure
PipoyKalbo said:
Great review. Im thinking of getting one as well but Im skeptic about it under water.
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They said that if you apply it perfectly it's waterproof
Thanks for the review :good: I think their glass screen protectors are fantastic, I have ordered a few of theirs for devices that I've tested in the past. Phones with curved edges however aren't brilliant but then no glass screen protector is. Curved edged phones are the Achilles heel of glass screen protectors!

Question Cannot get fingerprint scanner working with screen protector on

Hi, I have tried 2 different brands of glass screen protectors now, both advertised as supporting fingerprint, but i just can't register mine with them.
I have touch sensitivity turned on.
Each time i try to register my fingerprint it constantly keeps saying to try again, it had very occasionally got up to 20/30% done, but it then fails that many times that it takes me back to the start.
Is anyone else having this issue?
Regards
James
I got mine installed at a physical Samsung Experience Store. They used some machinery to perfectly fit the protector on the device. No such issue whatsoever. For all I know, you shouldn’t have any issues with the fingerprint scanner when using thin film-based screen protectors. Some tempered glass screen protectors, especially ones with UV glue may cause problems.
Glass ones have this issue(including Whitestone Dome if not applied really really well) and it's nothing new. Samsung's official plastic one is what I like.
@james_lpool If you prefer tempered glass screen protection, I would recommend this one:
PANZERGLASS™ SCREEN PROTECTOR SAMSUNG GALAXY S23 ULTRA | ULTRA-WIDE FIT W. EASYALIGNER
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As you can see in this photo, the glass is thinner above the fingerprint scanner.
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@james_lpool If you prefer tempered glass screen protection, I would recommend this one:
PANZERGLASS™ SCREEN PROTECTOR SAMSUNG GALAXY S23 ULTRA | ULTRA-WIDE FIT W. EASYALIGNER
As you can see in this photo, the glass is thinner above the fingerprint scanner.
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Yeah but that's super expensive.
I got Amfilm , bendable plastic kind (had tempered on S22U and it was a pain) and have had zero issues with fingerprints. S pen also easily glides on it. Not too good with Spigen cases though as they have raised the case sides this year.
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Yeah but that's super expensive.
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Well, you're paying for a high-quality glass screen protection for one of the most expensive smartphones.
Can't put cheap tires on a Ferrari
Presently I have an original Samsung film (plastic) protector fitted, so cannot comment for the S23U at the moment - but: in the past I used a Mowei protector kit for the S22U, the kit contains a weight that is put at the location of the FP sensor during curing ... this worked just fine....
i got whitestone dome glass and it works fine with my s23 ultra.
I first got Axessorize ARMORGlass, and finger print was ok, maybe 80% success rate with 4 time my finger registered. Big down side is the matt finish around the scanner.
Then simply got a gel protector. The seller told me after few month the glass protector will affect the scanner, while the gel wont.
Overall , the gel look better, but might be less safe maybe?
oVeRdOsE. said:
I first got Axessorize ARMORGlass, and finger print was ok, maybe 80% success rate with 4 time my finger registered. Big down side is the matt finish around the scanner.
Then simply got a gel protector. The seller told me after few month the glass protector will affect the scanner, while the gel wont.
Overall , the gel look better, but might be less safe maybe?
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Which gel protector is that specifically?
Thanks for everyone's replies, after a lot of fear, hassle, and a bit of a loss of money I decided on a film protector which is working 100% fine.
Not sure if I just picked rubbish glass screen protectors, but they caused me big issues. Neither would work with fingerprint reader and because they were hard, my original case was lifting the sides of the protector a bit, meaning touch was less sensitive.
The first glass protector I tried was UV and when it came to taking this off, that was a little scary with this brand-new phone!
Trying to peel it back off was a hard job, was very stuck and was actually cracking as I was slowly lifting it off.
So now i have a different case that doesn't affect the protector and a film protector and all seems good now

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