Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
Happy with my hardware, goodness the camera is awesome!
But the software is kinda bleh.
My HD2 running droid almost seemed faster, both on 3g, and internally with switching apps or even pictures. Of course I understand the handicapping that T-Mobile curses their phones with, but is anyone else having 3.5g issues?
Do the current custom ROMS produce better radio reception?
I'm in no hurry to flash, everything else is slick, exactly what I needed in a phone...but the weak data stream (10mbps fluctuating to 0.01 mbps and back during downloads) is irritating.
WiFi is not an option, I simply want a steadier data connection.
EDIT: My entire usage footprint is bright T-Mobile pink indicating awesome "4g" (yeah yeah I know, there's no such thing?)
kidrythm said:
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
Happy with my hardware, goodness the camera is awesome!
But the software is kinda bleh.
My HD2 running droid almost seemed faster, both on 3g, and internally with switching apps or even pictures. Of course I understand the handicapping that T-Mobile curses their phones with, but is anyone else having 3.5g issues?
Do the current custom ROMS produce better radio reception?
I'm in no hurry to flash, everything else is slick, exactly what I needed in a phone...but the weak data stream (10mbps fluctuating to 0.01 mbps and back during downloads) is irritating.
WiFi is not an option, I simply want a steadier data connection.
EDIT: My entire usage footprint is bright T-Mobile pink indicating awesome "4g" (yeah yeah I know, there's no such thing?)
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Just got my Amaze a few weeks ago... and I do believe this phone was promised to have a great connection... "HSPA+ 42" .... Mine works OK... but I live in Chicago. Sometimes it all depends on where you live..... if you live in a major city then you shouldn't have too many signal problems.
I found a T-Mobile customer support link you might wanna check out....
Tell me if this works for you...
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3294
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.[1]
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[1] Update: ... And this week AT&T announced the end to even the grandfathered unlimited data plans (like I had from 2006).
honestly can you even tell? to browse on your phone i dont think you need a better connection than 10mb/s i get 2 because of the area im in (WIND is the Equivalent of T-Mobile USA) and im happy with it lol ( speeds are supposed to be 5-12 mb/s
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Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.
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AT&T doesn't have good plans... My boyfriend has LTE ... he has the SGSII SKYROCKET.... he only gets 2GB of data... then after he exceeds... they give him AOL DIAL UP SPEEDS... and he has the UNLIMITED PLAN.... and he pays $115 / mon.
I pay $85 / mon and get 5GB of data on the HSPA+ 42 network.... hmmmmm
I WIN. (and so do you.... )
I get 10-12mbit connections, compared to my hd2 which got me 1-2mbit. there is a difference. Also, I feel like the amaze is slightly better, since the hd2's network capability is horrible, after 1 hour of being in a dead spot, it won't try to re-establish a network when I'm back in a signal zone. The only way to get it again is to restart. Tried it with multiple radios/roms.
ChromeJob said:
Not sure I understand what your issue is, but if you're less than chuffed with the software, stay tuned.... Amaze is one of the models that HTC has confirmed as getting ICS in "early 2012" (probably more like Q2, perhaps Q3). Whether it will get Sense 4.0 hasn't been documented, but I presume it will. I don't believe Gingerbread (2.3.4) or Sense 3.0 were optimized for the dual-core S3, so ... perhaps the update will bring snappier performance. (Hands-on reports of Sense 4 indicate it's pretty slick, a major improvement.)
From what I've been told, T-Mo's HSPA+ network is spotty ... great in some spots, so-so in others. I'm supposed to be in a prime spot, and I think I'm in line-of-sight of my local tower ... but in my second story bedroom, I can only get 17MBPS down (with Ookla Speedtest.net). (shrug)
And a week ago, AT&T (I canceled with them in December) turned on LTE in my section of town. Oops.
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Tmo towers are getting updated this year. In some spots I already get 20-27 mb/s in the Twin Cities MN
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My hd2 gave me about 2-3mbs, my amaze gives me 12-15mbs and peaks of 18-22
Glorious!!!!
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Yeah, when I am in good 4G coverage I can hit 20 download and 5 upload. It is actually faster on 4 G than on my WiFi, lol!
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Make sure you update the SIM card to the new "4G" SIM cards. I used to work at T-Mo and you need the new SIM card to have better connection.
JesseMT4G said:
Yeah, when I am in good 4G coverage I can hit 20 download and 5 upload. It is actually faster on 4 G than on my WiFi, lol!
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I actually prefer 4G over my WiFi. But I don't wanna get throttled -__-
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I did the sim switch, which seemed odd because I used the sim in the box.
I was throttled down to 0.06 mbps, consistent until about an hour ago since 3/1...voice cleared at exactly 12 am...data throttle cleared later (imho, this is wrong and should be illegal under an unli mited contract).
FYI: I maxed out at 14g during one billing cycle before the caps...I am not the enemy...I blew up my data just to see what it could do, all on the hd2, no tether/hot spot.
My head hurt for a week.
So, fixed the light bleed, got the sim, found light slivers creeping from both lower sides of the screen...but only when the capacitives are on, and soon to be rooted etc.
But seriously, your speeds are depressing me...I average 4 down, .23 up in Kansas City...home of Sprint.
Shouldn't be too long, I'll have it purrrrring.
kidrythm said:
I did the sim switch, which seemed odd because I used the sim in the box.
I was throttled down to 0.06 mbps, consistent until about an hour ago since 3/1...voice cleared at exactly 12 am...data throttle cleared later (imho, this is wrong and should be illegal under an unli mited contract).
FYI: I maxed out at 14g during one billing cycle before the caps...I am not the enemy...I blew up my data just to see what it could do, all on the hd2, no tether/hot spot.
My head hurt for a week.
So, fixed the light bleed, got the sim, found light slivers creeping from both lower sides of the screen...but only when the capacitives are on, and soon to be rooted etc.
But seriously, your speeds are depressing me...I average 4 down, .23 up in Kansas City...home of Sprint.
Shouldn't be too long, I'll have it purrrrring.
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I'm not sure you'll get better download speeds then if you already have the latest sim card. The amaze has yet to get a way to flash different radios...
Coming from the Hd2 your going to be rather disappointed with the development here. If only we could pull Tytung over here.
kidrythm said:
Hello!
I am coming in from years of HD2 use, running gingerbreadish as droid.
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Were twins. I had the hd2 before the amaze too! :3
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craigtut said:
I'm not sure you'll get better download speeds then if you already have the latest sim card. The amaze has yet to get a way to flash different radios...
Coming from the Hd2 your going to be rather disappointed with the development here. If only we could pull Tytung over here.
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Agreed!
At least the development here isn't born of pure frustration like it was for the HD2.
The countless denials and misdirection from T-Mobile, my 6 years of problem free history ended when I activated the powerful nightmare (all cell giants have accepted the dark side by now).
It was a year and a half before I felt comfortable using an sd Rom.
I still don't trust the hardware for a full wipe...
knifeproz said:
Were twins. I had the hd2 before the amaze too! :3
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What are your initial thoughts?
Imho, this is the HD3...
My thoughts? Hmm....I love this device far more than than the hd2 for the sole purpose that things work. As in its android from the box and I don't need to take wp6.5 off resulting in bad battery. The hd2 is a great device and I love it and this is kind of like it except no hardware buttons and less devs. But so far with what I've seen with the 5 days I've had this phone its amazing, and it was a great move to switch from the hd2.
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My thoughts? Hmm....I love this device far more than than the hd2 for the sole purpose that things work. As in its android from the box and I don't need to take wp6.5 off resulting in bad battery. The hd2 is a great device and I love it and this is kind of like it except no hardware buttons and less devs. But so far with what I've seen with the 5 days I've had this phone its amazing, and it was a great move to switch from the hd2.
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The addition of the forward facing camera, dedicated camera/vid button, and a larger market (pathetic, anemic, sorry assed Windows marketplace, and the millions of harsh unknown sources offering buggy ugly 'apps' for 6.5) is really all I needed in the Leo to make it 100%...
I'm not in any hurry to tweak this phone, it's pretty much where my Leo was, save for the obvious refinements.
The process is a bit more involved on this unit, so we'll see.
ICS looks pretty good too.
But for now, yeah, I made the right choice over the Samsung GSII and I am happy overall.
No restarts, dead pixels, overheating issues on either unit.
Couldnt have said it better. Although I do recommend to root your phone and flash a diff rom + kernel - its a battery saver
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Okay, when people have sigline images that are 4 times the height of the post, it's time to turn off signatures. C'mon people, be respectful of those with limited bandwidth, or ... who want to read your words, not ogle your MSPAINT skills.
My "4G" speeds are erratic as heck. One minute I get 2.7mbps, the next I get 188kbps. Welcome to the ISDN era...
Could this be because I dropped in the SIM card from my old HD2? What voodoo is in the SIM card makes that much difference? I thought the new SIM card was just for WiFi calling...
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Really want the giant screen of this phone, even though I really like my Epic Touch 4G; Obviously Sprint data speeds suck right now, but, not sure ATT would be that much better here in the SW 'burbs of Chicago..
Anyone out there that switched from the ET4G for this bad boy?
Are you glad you did, or not so glad?
Thanks so much for your input!
I came from a long line of devices on Sprint, my last being the E4GT. I'm extremely happy with the Note, no regrets in leaving Sprint at all.
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i'm hoping someone from the Chicago land area will chime in and tell me how ATT service is here now' a few years ago I tried ATT, and I couldn't even make or receive phone calls in my house in Willowbrook..
wase4711 said:
i'm hoping someone from the Chicago land area will chime in and tell me how ATT service is here now' a few years ago I tried ATT, and I couldn't even make or receive phone calls in my house in Willowbrook..
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In not far from u (la grange) and att has improved ALOT in last few years. Still get dropped calls here and there but not like in the past. LTE is just wow and that's even with us in Chi town land not getting nowhere near the speeds other markets are. (10 mbs here and Dallas is at 40mbs) .
I've had VZW LTE on my galaxy tab and left them, was never on sprint but remember Nextel
As for the Note I don't think u will put it down much, battery is mehhh but given how much I use it I'm not complaining and there's always a charger near me. My mother lives in wiilowbrook and I have not had any issues in that area, Indian head park is weak in my experience.
Hope this helps.
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bbgt2 said:
In not far from u (la grange) and att has improved ALOT in last few years. Still get dropped calls here and there but not like in the past. LTE is just wow and that's even with us in Chi town land not getting nowhere near the speeds other markets are. (10 mbs here and Dallas is at 40mbs) .
I've had VZW LTE on my galaxy tab and left them, was never on sprint but remember Nextel
As for the Note I don't think u will put it down much, battery is mehhh but given how much I use it I'm not complaining and there's always a charger near me. My mother lives in wiilowbrook and I have not had any issues in that area, Indian head park is weak in my experience.
Hope this helps.
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How does the 4glte work inside your house?
Even though I am really close to Sprint wimax towers, i really get no 4g signal inside my house...
Do you drop calls inside your house, or out on the road?
I work from a home office, and using the phone part of the "package" is very important to me...
Thanks again!
I live in Burr Ridge. Last month I sold my Epic Touch 4g on Sprint for the Note.
Back in the day I'd had the iPhone 3g on AT&T and the service sucked, and I'd swore I'd never come back to AT&T, but I really wanted the Note. I've had no problems on the Note on AT&T...no dropped calls yet, and love the 4g speeds. The 3g speeds I get on AT&T are faster than any of the 4g Wimax speeds I used to get on Sprint.
Fyi here is a speediest from my house and I'm not on lte (it always says 4g in the statusbar, when you're in LTE you'll see a little "lte" in there as well)
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Came from sprint, California. It's more expensive but the service is awesome. Unlimited data was a cruel joke unless I was in 4g area, staying still with a door or window open
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stevieraveon said:
I live in Burr Ridge. Last month I sold my Epic Touch 4g on Sprint for the Note.
Back in the day I'd had the iPhone 3g on AT&T and the service sucked, and I'd swore I'd never come back to AT&T, but I really wanted the Note. I've had no problems on the Note on AT&T...no dropped calls yet, and love the 4g speeds. The 3g speeds I get on AT&T are faster than any of the 4g Wimax speeds I used to get on Sprint.
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thats great to hear!
when I used to have ATT a few years ago, I dropped calls ALWAYS in certain areas; rt 83 and 63rd street, 55 and 355 overpass, it was pretty pathetic to tell people on a call that you had to hang up, because you were going to lose the call..Plus, when I lived in Darien, I had to go out side to make or receive calls, and that was just stupid, especially in the winter!!
Glad to hear they have upgraded the network in the SW burbs...being an older guy, I actually use the phone for phone calls first and foremost..
and, as far as pricing, it appears that with 3 lines and the family plan, I will be paying about 30 dollars a month LESS with ATt than with sprint..hard to believe, but I confirmed the pricing yesterday...Sprints 10 dollar "premium" to own a smartphone now is just bull****..
stevieraveon said:
I live in Burr Ridge. Last month I sold my Epic Touch 4g on Sprint for the Note.
Back in the day I'd had the iPhone 3g on AT&T and the service sucked, and I'd swore I'd never come back to AT&T, but I really wanted the Note. I've had no problems on the Note on AT&T...no dropped calls yet, and love the 4g speeds. The 3g speeds I get on AT&T are faster than any of the 4g Wimax speeds I used to get on Sprint.
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I assume its just as easy to root this guy as it was the ET4g?
I checked the Dev section, and it doesn't seem there are as many custom Roms for this guy yet; it is a lot newer, but I wonder if things like CM9 will ever make their way to this phone...
wase4711 said:
Really want the giant screen of this phone, even though I really like my Epic Touch 4G; Obviously Sprint data speeds suck right now, but, not sure ATT would be that much better here in the SW 'burbs of Chicago..
Anyone out there that switched from the ET4G for this bad boy?
Are you glad you did, or not so glad?
Thanks so much for your input!
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If you like your epic touch 4G...then you'll Love the Note. No doubt.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
SKyRocKeting727 said:
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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/Thats what she said...
wase4711 said:
I assume its just as easy to root this guy as it was the ET4g?
I checked the Dev section, and it doesn't seem there are as many custom Roms for this guy yet; it is a lot newer, but I wonder if things like CM9 will ever make their way to this phone...
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Yeah, rooting was just as easy. Also, there aren't may custom Roms, but Quality > Quantity.
DAGr8's Saurom rom is the only ROM I've flashed so far (gingerbread ROM) and I've had no complaints. There also has already been an ICS leak and various ROM's that I haven't tried yet and we know a real release will be coming.
Also, Cm9 is supposedly coming:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568698
I have a split level house so I'm more in the lower level and I do have spots where I get weak call signal but still able to make receive calls. I too work out of my house (transfer office to cell when I leave) so I rely on my cell for work mainly. LTE reception is very good for me at home but I do use my wifi mainly when home. I have been with att since it was Ameritech and have had every iPhone since the first one but can safely say iPhones cell reception is crap compared to the note. My wife and daughter have iPhones and they still drop calls way way more then me. I never had the phone ur coming from so I can't attest to compare as I have been a sammy guy since the galaxy s and cannot see myself going to another brand.
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For anyone wondering. .yea this device is 3 times the speed of sprint ..I came from sprint after 3 years of bottom of the barrel 3g so called..3g I signed up with atat and Right of the bat atat was twice as fast good signal and YES CAN FINALLY STREAM MEDIA WITHOUT LAG.It may not be lte but hspa is suitable
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/Thats what she said...
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After she met me....
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
lojak29 said:
For anyone wondering. .yea this device is 3 times the speed of sprint ..I came from sprint after 3 years of bottom of the barrel 3g so called..3g I signed up with atat and Right of the bat atat was twice as fast good signal and YES CAN FINALLY STREAM MEDIA WITHOUT LAG.It may not be lte but hspa is suitable
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I'm just hoping the service in my area of Chicago land has improved over what it was 3 years ago, when ATT was the absolute worst in my area..
I never drop calls with sprint when I am out of my house, and inside of it, I have been using an Air Rave device that they provided, so that isn't an issue at home.
Their 3G data is horrible, and, they claim its because they are currently upgrading their network; I gotta tell ya, it was just as bad when they weren't upgrading their network. Typical 3g speeds are 100-400kb, so the thought of getting 5-10 megs from ATT is very exciting...
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I'm just hoping the service in my area of Chicago land has improved over what it was 3 years ago, when ATT was the absolute worst in my area..
I never drop calls with sprint when I am out of my house, and inside of it, I have been using an Air Rave device that they provided, so that isn't an issue at home.
Their 3G data is horrible, and, they claim its because they are currently upgrading their network; I gotta tell ya, it was just as bad when they weren't upgrading their network. Typical 3g speeds are 100-400kb, so the thought of getting 5-10 megs from ATT is very exciting...
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If I were you, I would test the Note in and around your house for a few days to make sure the reception works well overall.
At times, the data jumps back-and-forth between HSPA and LTE depending on your whereabouts. But...I don't believe it really drains that much battery.
And I agree how Sprint's 3G is an absolute joke....I thought VZW 3G was horrid...but when I saw it on Sprint, it was unbelievably slow.
They continue to advertise that they're the only 1 of the big 4 providers who still offer "truly unlimited data"....but what's the point of having that if you're basically already throttled with dial-up speeds.
Only thing i hate about note is qualcom processor, thats only aspect I miss of s2
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Aerials said:
If I were you, I would test the Note in and around your house for a few days to make sure the reception works well overall.
At times, the data jumps back-and-forth between HSPA and LTE depending on your whereabouts. But...I don't believe it really drains that much battery.
And I agree how Sprint's 3G is an absolute joke....I thought VZW 3G was horrid...but when I saw it on Sprint, it was unbelievably slow.
They continue to advertise that they're the only 1 of the big 4 providers who still offer "truly unlimited data"....but what's the point of having that if you're basically already throttled with dial-up speeds.
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yeah, I plan on testing it immediately, but, the problem is of course, that once I port the number over, of their service sucks, its a pain to cancel with them and go back to Sprint; I love the Sammy E4GT, but, I am really switching carriers to get the Note, not Att...I just hope all the improvements in my area that I have heard/read about our true.
I mean, this is the Chicago land market, and I am certain ATT wants to come off as a good provider here..
But I really wanted this phone first and foremost..
Did anyone see this on bgr?
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/17/atts-...ound-to-be-nations-fastest-wireless-services/
They basically say Sprint lags behind everyone in 3G and 4G. I personally get really good 3G speeds (>1mbps), and 4G when I can get it but it is not at my house or work. Just in between. Not wanting to be a whiner. I feel like when Sprint rolls out LTE and Network Vision everywhere we'll be back. I'm rather happy with my wireless data, but it seems we are right now missing out on a lot.
My 3g speeds are just pathetic now. They used to be decent, like in the 800 plus range at work. Now I'm lucky if I pull 100kbps. Plus I always drop in and out and even go to roaming sometimes. Please hurry up the roll out sprint.
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You guys have it made.I cant even browse facebook most days.Thats why I call it
"Sprint - The (i hope you dont need it right) Now Network.
This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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Sprint DOES lag behind on network speeds. Even with the upgrades they've done in my area. Things have improved, but I don't think they're anything to brag about. Even 4G wimax when I have a strong signal is pitiful. There are times I feel 4G wimax is like AT&T or T-Mobile 3G. I don't complain, really, because it's fast enough for me to get by. But... congrats on taking the red pill and waking up
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This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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I kind of feel like this also. In a year or so from now, I expect to have fast LTE and good 3G as a backup. If that is not the case I may go elsewhere. Allthough I hate to lose unlimited data and the other perks of being with sprint.
my 3g and now 4g speeds are pretty pathetic. 3g is 100k most of the time except in the evenings when the towers are so overloaded it drops to 1x or 3g will just timeout on everything and 4g is now down to anywhere between 200k and 500k during the evening and 1.5-2mb during the rest of the time. yet sprint continues to say theres no problems in the area lol.
This is definitely not news. My Sprint service has sucked for a while now.
I'm roaming often, and when I'm not roaming the signal is weak. When I'm lucky enough to get a good signal, 3G is still slower than dial up speeds, and 4G is slower than Verizon's 3G.
Sprint is in real trouble if they don't fix this. The only reason I am still with them is because I really do like my Evo 3D. No other carrier has a comparable phone, and I'm stuck in a contract anyway.
If Verizon got a Samsung Galaxy S 3D, I'd probably break my contract with Sprint to go to Verizon.
Who cares about unlimited data if it's practically unusable in most real world scenarios?
My city isn't even on the list of future LTE markets yet either, so I'm not holding my breath for that. I do have Wimax, but it's pretty crappy.
Sprint has totally fell off. I remember a few years ago when Sprint used to consistently be first or second in these data speed comparisons. Now I would have been shocked if they weren't picked last. And I'm sure most Sprint customers would have also been shocked if Sprint was anything but last in this most recent comparison.
Sprint has got more and more expensive over the years, and the service has got worse and worse. Not a very good outlook for the future at all.
does anybody really think sprint lte will be fast? why do they not assume it will be similar to Wimax speeds?
sprint has 3g but nobody assumes it is as fast as the competition.
rude awakening! you will be unsatisfied with lte speeds and then you will realize that Wimax wasn't the problem, SPRINT is the problem
royshero said:
This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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as soon as there network is upgraded... they will morph right into verizon's evil twin. price, and everything. just watch.
the only thing keeping them from not charging an ass load of money is that they are being outperformed in network capability in a lot of areas. i am fortunate to live in an area with very good 4g and 3g, so i can't complain. but man i sure feel your guys' pain with the slow network ****. that would be frustrating. it's like paying for wifi and your wifi is never working or never running fast.
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as soon as there network is upgraded... they will morph right into verizon's evil twin. price, and everything. just watch.
the only thing keeping them from not charging an ass load of money is that they are being outperformed in network capability in a lot of areas. i am fortunate to live in an area with very good 4g and 3g, so i can't complain. but man i sure feel your guys' pain with the slow network ****. that would be frustrating. it's like paying for wifi and your wifi is never working or never running fast.
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They already aren't that much cheaper than Verizon anymore. I think last time I checked Sprint was like $5 a month cheaper or something like that. And that wasn't even factoring all the nickel and dime fees Sprint puts on there.
The only thing Sprint has on Verizon these days is unlimited data. The price isn't a big enough difference to really be a factor. And the unlimited data isn't really a factor (to me at least) if it's too slow to use. Sprint's just lucky their network went to **** after they already had me locked into a contract. And even then, I'd have probably left if I could get a phone comparable to the Evo 3D on another network.
Sprint did the same thing that AT&T when they got the iPhone...they didn't anticipate all the traffic on their network thus not preparing for it. I am holding out though. By the end of the year, a lot of us will have a great network to go with the unlimited data. And will be better than all the others.
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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Yup true I did the 4g against Verizon test he hit 11mbps I hit 10mbps the only difference was ping his was 58 while mines was 101
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
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thats true, if i head to the **** side of town i can get good 3g speeds but no 4g lol. or if im around a sprint store they make sure the towers are working perfect. just some observations ive experienced here in san antonio. hell around my parents house half the time i get network busy when trying to make a call. sprint says theres no problems that the network is working as it should haha. they get all pissed when i ask them so for 200+ a month im not supposed to beable to make a phone call and have data speeds that are so ****ty it basically turns my phone into a cool looking paper weight.
I get 900kbps to burst speeds of 1.5mbps most days. Just heard from a couple of sources that I'm getting 4g in a month or two
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Didnt check 3g as Im always on 4g but you guys are right. 3g slowed down for me too. Used to get 1000+kbps now down to 700kpbs.
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Didnt check 3g as Im always on 4g but you guys are right. 3g slowed down for me too. Used to get 1000+kbps now down to 700kpbs.
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Yeah mine slowed down too I used to get 10 kbps now I get 5 kbps.
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Yeah mine slowed down too I used to get 10 kbps now I get 5 kbps.
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lol, your speeds are like mine
I'm lucky if I get 300kbps in my home area. Luckily, I found out they took down the closest tower in light of the fact of upgrading the others to network vision and haven't yet...so I complained. Until then...it's non-stop bill credits. I'm making them pay for the lack of service. I ask what I get over someone with a $50/mon prepay plan other than the fancy phone I bought...the answer? Nadda.
Pisses me off that we'll have to get new phones again to take advantage of the 4G LTE. Thanks a lot.
My dad got the Evo LTE through the pre order, but decided because of the lack of 4G and the internal battery he is going to return it. I have been playing with it for the past few days, waiting for Sprint to send a return box. After running it through usage (although I could not use 3G) it seems like it would handle how I use it...the only thing holding me back is 3G/4G. I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and have amazing WiMax signal, but Sprints ****ty 3G (around .2 up, .01 down). So my question: Should I wait it out for LTE? Considering we got WiMax fairly fast, I believe that LTE should get to Chicago and the surrounding areas within a year...but I do not know if I can survive on 3G that long. How have you guys held up on only 3G? I own the 3D now, and actually use 4G a lot.
If you use 4g a lot then I suggest you then don't even bother considering this phone.
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My dad got the Evo LTE through the pre order, but decided because of the lack of 4G and the internal battery he is going to return it. I have been playing with it for the past few days, waiting for Sprint to send a return box. After running it through usage (although I could not use 3G) it seems like it would handle how I use it...the only thing holding me back is 3G/4G. I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and have amazing WiMax signal, but Sprints ****ty 3G (around .2 up, .01 down). So my question: Should I wait it out for LTE? Considering we got WiMax fairly fast, I believe that LTE should get to Chicago and the surrounding areas within a year...but I do not know if I can survive on 3G that long. How have you guys held up on only 3G? I own the 3D now, and actually use 4G a lot.
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This is a question only you can answer. I rarely use data on the run. I'm usually around WiFi, so I can easily handle it. I've been on 3g only for a long time, since I was constantly flashing ROMs on the OG EVO that were without 4G. So this is the same experience for me.
I'm near Chicago, and I too believe we'll get LTE pretty quick. I am excited about it, but this phone is totally worth a lack of 4G to me. It's incredible. The screen, processor, camera, and other things are really impressive. And it's gorgeous!
In the end, it's your personal needs that must decide whether it is worth it.
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I think Chicago is actually one of the first round cities to get LTE.
A great place to find out about Sprint's network is http://s4gru.com
A quick search returned this article:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
Thanks for that article! It looks like mine should be "deployed" around June. I'm actually typing this from the phone ya know what? I'm going for it.
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I'd start with removing the proxy in the ##3282# screen. That helped me with slightly better speeds. That aside, as others above have pointed out, lte is coming to chicago very soon.
I was in louisville this weekend. Did a speed test on 3g at 7am this morning. 2.4mb down and about 900kb up (bit, not bytes). Pretty impressive and does go to show just how badly the 3g data in the chicago area sucks.
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Thanks for that article! It looks like mine should be "deployed" around June. I'm actually typing this from the phone ya know what? I'm going for it.
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Seems like a fair bet to me. My wife loves it and I'm jealous. I have the GSII and love this phone. My upgrade is in 3-4 months and I'm not sure if I'm going to 1; keep my current phone and use my upgrade to make some cash, 2; use my upgrade to get the EVO LTE or, 3; use my upgrade to get the GSIII. We'll see I guess.
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First off phone is awesome! I do have a pre order for an s3 from best buy though, so I will be running stock for at least 29 days and putting the phone through its paces. I came from Verizon and the service was overpriced for what I was getting but data speeds were great most of the time. I can deal with this on sprint by using WiFi more which is in abundance on long island. I know sprint is upgrading service, but did I make a mistake leaving Verizon?
If you have access to wifi at home and work you should be good. This is a great phone
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No... I'm skeptical about these changes to the network, but I think Sprint is doing the right thing.
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First off phone is awesome! I do have a pre order for an s3 from best buy though, so I will be running stock for at least 29 days and putting the phone through its paces. I came from Verizon and the service was overpriced for what I was getting but data speeds were great most of the time. I can deal with this on sprint by using WiFi more which is in abundance on long island. I know sprint is upgrading service, but did I make a mistake leaving Verizon?
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Not sure if your reference to the "29 Days" is to the trial period of the phone before committing to it. On Sprint, it has been reduced to 14 Days.... just thought I would throw that out there if you thought you had 30 days to decided if you wanted to keep the phone or not.
I'm referring to best buys policy on the phone not the service
You made the right choice - unlimited data; cheaper prices; network vision upgrade in progress.
The key is wifi. If you have access to it then you be fine. Sprints customer service is by far better then Verizon. By the way, sprints data isnt as bad as most make it out to be. I wont use it for things like downloading roms or watching videos on netflixs or YouTube. But for radio apps and normal emailing and web browsing i think you'll be fine, i know i am.
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Thanks for the responses.
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No... I'm skeptical about these changes to the network, but I think Sprint is doing the right thing.
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The only thing I am concerned about is their quickness to implement the changes. Once all the tower get the software upgrade, it will be legit. They went this route because had they stuck with wimax it would have meant building a LOT more towers... LTE means updating the existing ones, getting 3 or 4 times the range, and maybe building a few more in necessary areas.
Their initial plan was just simply to be the first to have true 4G... which they did successfully. But in my opinion it nipped them in the ass because as soon as everybody got their LTE implemented, it blew the balls off sprint's low range, high spectrum network, and made their "4G" look like a joke.
They are fools, but so is anybody who outrightly decides to go with them knowing their history and then complains about it. Jeez i get so sick of reading threads "o ma you'll never guess what sprint did to me!!!!" .... like stfu and blame yourself for signing the contract.
anyways, little bit of a rant, but once they get LTE up and running it will be nice, and they will. every single place there is a 4g tower, there will be LTE. and in the mean time, more towers will go up.
Service seems good so far been streaming Pandora with no buffering but Sirius xm buffers like a sob
Well, its a sad day. Returned the evo lte due to constant roaming and data drops and weak signal, For a photon. huge downgrade, but at least the photon gets constant data at a respectful speed for me. Im really disappointed about this situation and hope my galaxy s3 pre order comes in right away so I could give it a shot, if not ill go back to the evo lte and hope radio updates help it. Never been this disappointed before over a phone because i really was enjoying the other aspects of it. Photon will at least get wimax in my area. are the data drops and lack of signal reception due to hardware issues with the lte?
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I searched the forums and didn't see a post like this......
So I have talked to a couple representatives from T-Mobile and it has been confirmed that T-Mobile will be acquiring LTE service sometime next year. One rep told me next spring, the other one told me they don't know.
So I'm just going to wait until the day T-Mobile gets LTE then use my upgrade on an LTE phone.
I honestly can't wait!
Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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I understand what you mean, but if the speeds are higher, then theoretically, they would be able to support more users.
Look at it this way. You have a water hose that is 1 inch in diameter, and you have a splitter that splits the hose 4 ways. On the 4 ends, the rate of flow would be lower than if it was just 1 end. This is our current 4G service.
And now, the LTE. A hose that is 3 inches in diameter. Now, it can split it 4 ways, and get about 3x more performance in each hose (Which as you mentioned, is probably unnecessary, since we probably wouldn't notice the difference)... OR you could split it 12 ways and you would get the same performance with 1 inch hose that was only split 4 ways. It now can support 3x more hoses, while delivering the same amount of throughput.
It's not always about speed
At this point I really don't care for LTE specially if it drains my battery faster then what my current juice sucking Amaze does. I do think it's all hype at this point. Also I've been wondering weather I really need a juice sucking tripe/quad CPU on my cell.
There is only so much you can do on a cell phone before its over kill. At the moment I have to carefully manage my 4G, Cell phone signal, WIFI, Bluetooth, Air Plane mode, and have a few well placed chargers at home, car and work just to get through the day with my cell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to doing with a Quad Core or Tegra processor cell phone if I got one. Unless I was playing games on my cell phone which is not that great since it doesn't have a physical keyboard a la Xperia play or Droid 2.
I guess that if you watch a lot of videos online the extra speed might be a plus but then again the screen is kind of small and it would kill the battery quick. Right now even a quick game of angry birds or Zombies vs plants zaps the battery life. I guess that if you tether your cell phone and watch videos on a laptop or a tablet then maybe I can see the positive of having LTE.
I wish T-mobile would instead expand their coverage. At my job they have internal antennas throughout the whole campus for Verizon and AT&T, Metro PCS, Sprint. I asked one of the IT project managers if T-mobile would ever get in on the game and add their hardware so that we could have a better T-mobile signal. He laughed at me and said that T-Mobile doesn't play nice and there was no chance. Good thing we have WIFI at work and I use grooveIP and Google voice as my main communication tools.
At this time I'm more then happy with my Amaze 4G speeds. It seems to be about as fast as my home WIFI. It's definitely faster then work WIFI.
I would much rather see improved battery technology and a better screen. I guess I would have to try out LTE just to see if it was worth it but I highly doubt it. Heck right now seeing full bars on my cell is a big plus and cause for celebration.
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Lte reminds me of another acronym: cai which stands for cold air intake.
Yes while lte (and somewhat I have read it's not even true lte???) May be faster on paper, I can tell you its barely noticeable.
Just like a cai, you may be technically gaining a few horses but you won't notice it. I honestly see very little difference between lte and hspa . If any thing else the speed is very inconsistent which attributes to minimal notability in speed.
And after reading how it's not even true lte I am convinced it's just b.s.
Has anyone noticed how call quality has stayed the same for the past 5 years or so?
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rustyxj6 said:
At this point I really don't care for LTE specially if it drains my battery faster then what my current juice sucking Amaze does. I do think it's all hype at this point. Also I've been wondering weather I really need a juice sucking tripe/quad CPU on my cell.
There is only so much you can do on a cell phone before its over kill. At the moment I have to carefully manage my 4G, Cell phone signal, WIFI, Bluetooth, Air Plane mode, and have a few well placed chargers at home, car and work just to get through the day with my cell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to doing with a Quad Core or Tegra processor cell phone if I got one. Unless I was playing games on my cell phone which is not that great since it doesn't have a physical keyboard a la Xperia play or Droid 2.
I guess that if you watch a lot of videos online the extra speed might be a plus but then again the screen is kind of small and it would kill the battery quick. Right now even a quick game of angry birds or Zombies vs plants zaps the battery life. I guess that if you tether your cell phone and watch videos on a laptop or a tablet then maybe I can see the positive of having LTE.
I wish T-mobile would instead expand their coverage. At my job they have internal antennas throughout the whole campus for Verizon and AT&T, Metro PCS, Sprint. I asked one of the IT project managers if T-mobile would ever get in on the game and add their hardware so that we could have a better T-mobile signal. He laughed at me and said that T-Mobile doesn't play nice and there was no chance. Good thing we have WIFI at work and I use grooveIP and Google voice as my main communication tools.
At this time I'm more then happy with my Amaze 4G speeds. It seems to be about as fast as my home WIFI. It's definitely faster then work WIFI.
I would much rather see improved battery technology and a better screen. I guess I would have to try out LTE just to see if it was worth it but I highly doubt it. Heck right now seeing full bars on my cell is a big plus and cause for celebration.
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Ah, but with quad core, you can be in control, and the way it handles processes is more efficient anyways.. and technically there are five cores, and that fifth smaller core can really help make things more efficient.
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LTE sounds nice and I thought the same about 4G neither which are running where I live. I still have to rely on Edge(2G) for my data. AT&T, Sprint, nor Verizon have their LTE/4G services where I live. So T-mobile can say all they want about their network but that won't be selling me any phones anytime soon.
I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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Yeah I also am more concerned with consistent service. Where I live I can get anywhere from 10kbs, yes kbs down, and pretty much nothing up. To about 5mbs down. But about 7 miles from here I get consistent speeds of 28mbs down I'd much prefer that being the norm since that's plenty fast. I'm told the technology that everyone is hoping to move to is more economically sound and should save the user money theoretically. Now whether the companies will pass that savings to us... Who knows. But I'd much rather get service where I currently don't. And data where I only have service like when I camp certain areas
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Also rather see them increase signal with Hspa+ rather than make the LTE switch. I am already getting craptastic battery life and my service is so spotty! I currently have 4G where I work at outside, but I walk 50 yards rather outside or inside the building I get full bars of EDGE. Always a good signal, just completely different speeds.
Have a friend on Verizon and he has an LTE phone and his speeds off the network are crazy fast, but it isn't like off the wall crazy different when I am in a strong 4G area. I have hit mid 20's download and almost 4 upload.
Marketing at its finest IMO.
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I searched the forums and didn't see a post like this......
So I have talked to a couple representatives from T-Mobile and it has been confirmed that T-Mobile will be acquiring LTE service sometime next year. One rep told me next spring, the other one told me they don't know.
So I'm just going to wait until the day T-Mobile gets LTE then use my upgrade on an LTE phone.
I honestly can't wait!
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While lte will eventually take over hspa+ is more than sufficient and in my case here in San Diego it's faster.
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Keylogger_0 said:
I understand what you mean, but if the speeds are higher, then theoretically, they would be able to support more users.
Look at it this way. You have a water hose that is 1 inch in diameter, and you have a splitter that splits the hose 4 ways. On the 4 ends, the rate of flow would be lower than if it was just 1 end. This is our current 4G service.
And now, the LTE. A hose that is 3 inches in diameter. Now, it can split it 4 ways, and get about 3x more performance in each hose (Which as you mentioned, is probably unnecessary, since we probably wouldn't notice the difference)... OR you could split it 12 ways and you would get the same performance with 1 inch hose that was only split 4 ways. It now can support 3x more hoses, while delivering the same amount of throughput.
It's not always about speed
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That analogy is actually kind of weak. Firstly, not all phones will be LTE. Second, just like other spectrums, the more people use it, the slower it will be. I'm all for LTE however, as more use it, the faster 4g signal will be. But if you do aa cost benefit analysis(yes, a science-y term), the amount of extra battery consumption for the negligable amount of increased performance would be bad. Until we have things that require those speeds(maybe torrents), you simply wont notice gains worth the extra consumption.
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I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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I live in Florida, used to be Daytona(central florida area), and now jacksonville.. there are a few miles in between that I lose 4g, but I can testify that the east coast down to Miami actually has pretty great coverage. Jacksonvilles signal strength has been amazing everywhere(biggest city in the u.s. by square miles) except for where I just moved, which is the ffirst time I've Ever experienced drops in signal from 4g to 2g to no signal in a few feet.. but that likely has to do witg the interferance from the very close power grid.
While LTE is a great technology with a lot of potential, and it will lessen the burden on other bandwidth spectrums.. the usefulness at the moment is comparable tto the concept of anything more than a quad core(which isn't fully realized) or more than a gig of ram.. diminishing returns. At this point they need new, bigger, and faster features to sell us new phones, just like rom develpers need new features to make new roms worth downloading. I say if it isn't broke, don't fix it. If you like hype.. buy buy buy. At some point it is like buying a new phone that the only difference is that it has siri(I had to throw that in, lol. All hype )
Edit: software is one of the biggest upgrades at the moment. Upgrading from gingerbread to ics will give a bigger performance boost that a faster processor, more cores, or more ram. Everything from the browser on up will be faster than an upgrade to data speed. Or the hardware specs that are neglected on mobile phones that matter just like a computer. How many threads can the processor handle? What's the NM rate of the processor? What is the sspeed of the ram rather than the total? Or how about upgrades to the gpu rather than Number of cores or the amount of ram?
Specs we see are expressed so simple for the consumer to think it matters. Oh, this phone has a 1.7ghz quad core, it must be better than the 1.5ghz. Oh, two gigs of ram, twice as much as the last one! While the smaller harder to understand specs are completely forgotten.
LTE! Bah!
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Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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I am admittedly a bit of a noob. But I would be interested in learning some about build.prop and what lines can be edited. I guess there is always trial and error, but if someone could point me on the right direction that would be cool.
Edit: nm had time to do a bit of searching
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I am admittedly a bit of a noob. But I would be interested in learning some about build.prop and what lines can be edited. I guess there is always trial and error, but if someone could point me on the right direction that would be cool.
Edit: nm had time to do a bit of searching
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Well, I can save you a bit of searching.. no rom in our development section uses the max speeds(except maybe speedrom), but all of these lines exist in any rom and the stock rom's build.prop - if you have different settings, you are getting lower speeds(higher speeds may be possible, these are just the highest I've tested without reducing battery life that I know work):
ro.ril.hsxpa=5
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There are tons and tons of lines you can edit or add to the build.prop.. here are some recent ones from the s3 forums that explain what they actually do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769458
There are also some lines in most of our roms that have #comments before them explaining what they do, like disabling checkin services to htc and google, etc.. definitely worth learning tho
The day that data speeds over 5 mbs is "that" important to me is the day i beat myself to death with my own phone
No tweaks and I get average 28 megabits in Austin Texas
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I'm confused about our phone a bit. I thought I had seen that our phone says something about lte in the kernel or somewhere. Why? And I remember faux saying he had disabled it I think
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I'm confused about our phone a bit. I thought I had seen that our phone says something about lte in the kernel or somewhere. Why? And I remember faux saying he had disabled it I think
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It does have LTE listed, you can even find it in the APN settings, but it's completely pointless without the hardware, which our device doesn't have, reason being why faux disabled it.
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It does have LTE listed, you can even find it in the APN settings, but it's completely pointless without the hardware, which our device doesn't have, reason being why faux disabled it.
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So why would we even have it on the software level?
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