There has been some discussion, but none since the Consumer Preview came out about being able to get Windows on a tablet such as the Gtab which is a Tegra2 chipset.
Does anybody know if it is even possible to get Windows on the Gtab at any point without a specific bootloader for it? With Android being more open than Windows we can tinker and change it far more than we ever will with Windows so I am not so much as asking if it is being done as much as I am asking if it can be done. And then if so if anybody is even looking at doing it. I would love to take a Consumer Preview copy and try to install it on my Gtab just to see if it would work but I don't know enough about tablet technology to even start, desktop on the other hand I'll get working, but not with a tablet.
So after all this, if anybody is willing to assist in trying this I am will to test it out. I have 2 Gtabs and I am willing to put one up for testing, but I want to do the testing so I can learn if anybody is will to teach.
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There has been some discussion, but none since the Consumer Preview came out about being able to get Windows on a tablet such as the Gtab which is a Tegra2 chipset.
Does anybody know if it is even possible to get Windows on the Gtab at any point without a specific bootloader for it? With Android being more open than Windows we can tinker and change it far more than we ever will with Windows so I am not so much as asking if it is being done as much as I am asking if it can be done. And then if so if anybody is even looking at doing it. I would love to take a Consumer Preview copy and try to install it on my Gtab just to see if it would work but I don't know enough about tablet technology to even start, desktop on the other hand I'll get working, but not with a tablet.
So after all this, if anybody is willing to assist in trying this I am will to test it out. I have 2 Gtabs and I am willing to put one up for testing, but I want to do the testing so I can learn if anybody is will to teach.
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gTab doesn't come close to meeting the min hardware specs that Microsoft has published for Win8 tablets (screen res, hardware buttons, storage space, UEFI support, Bluetooth 4.0, 720P camera, magnetometer & gyro, etc). It is doubtful that any modern Windows version will ever run in the 512M of memory the gTab has. In addition, MS has also said that Win8 Tablet will be tied to hardware (you won't be able to go to your local PC store & pick up a copy to install on any old tablet). The vendors will tie Win8 to their specific hardware & that is the only way you will be able to get it.
FYI, the Win8 tabs that were given out at BUILD had an Intel core i5 processor, 4G ram, 64G SSD, 1366x768 display, Wireless N, & 3G.
With android, devs have access to os source code that helps them to be able to modify android to the varying hardware. In the case of Win8, I don't believe you will ever see MS release source code which would make the task of porting to an unsupported devices next to impossible. Just my 2 cents.
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As the topic says, I wonder if we can get a working copy on the Prime. Story follows:
CNET's Brooke Crothers says that his sources have told him that Windows 8 is now stable on the ARM platform and will be seeded to developers soon. He also suggests that the ARM versions of Windows 8 will indeed include the legacy Windows desktop.
"Windows 8 on ARM should go to developers in February, said one source, who had some hands-on time with a high-profile device from a major PC maker, adding that Windows 8 was impressive and stable," Crothers writes. "In October of last year [Windows 8 on ARM] scared the industry because it was unstable. But what we are seeing now is quite stable, said another source, who also confirmed an expected February developer time frame."
Among the other tidbits of interest in this post:
Less expensive. ARM-based Windows 8 devices will be less expensive than those based on x86 ... to the tune of "hundreds of dollars less on ARM. "
ARM and x86 releases will not be staggered. Despite rumors that the ARM- and x86-based versions of Windows 8 might ship at different times, Crothers's sources say that's not so. "The release of Windows 8 on ARM should not be later than the release of Windows 8 on Intel," the post notes.
Microsoft Office. According to one of Crothers's sources, "Office is fine [on ARM]." If true, this means that the legacy Windows desktop will be included on ARM-based versions of Windows.
Legacy applications. As expected, however, normal legacy applications will not work on ARM without being recompiled for that platform. "I'm not aware of any third-party legacy applications running on Windows 8 on ARM," one source told CNET.
Why so secret. One of the most vexing things about dealing with Microsoft these days is the veil of secrecy around anything about Windows 8. The app compatibility story on ARM-based Windows 8 versions may be a big part of this, the report suggests. "That's one of the snags that Microsoft is trying to work through. You want to come out with a fairly robust library of applications, one source said. Both believe this is one of the reasons Microsoft is being cautious about demonstrating Windows 8 on ARM."
Interesting stuff.
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Source:
http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/su...indows-8-arm-stable-heading-developers-142084
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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$5 says if you install the latest drivers (synaptic I assume) from mfr site you can. The touch pad does NOT need to support multi touch, they basically say if it detects wierd input, assume 2 fingers for scrolling. Even worked on my old Pentium M which was definitely not multi touch. Won't give you pinch zoom like the new models but 2 finger scrolling is FORWARD compatible, at least with synaptic.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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Right? I and the when I try to go back to using the touchpad its like I have never used it before.
Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
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Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
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Good news to hear then. Can't wait till dual boot possibility then. Hopefully it can be as simple as an apk install..lol I had an old tilt2(rhodium) win mote phone. I was able to dualboot android, xdandroid, thru just a cab install.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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When my mother wanted to see if she could borrow my old notebook, I did that too, a lot....which oddlyshe had tried with my netbook once when fiddling with it, before getting a tablet lol.
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OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
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Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
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OK, I see now. I guess the screen resolution and NFC requirement thru me off the most. Thanks for clarifying that.
Windows 8 was demonstrated lightly on the Tegra 2 platform and heavily on the Tegra 3 platform.
The Prime's hardware is there; it will just take some development.
Anyone Try to Install/Dual boot Windows 8 on Prime?
Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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that won't work at all since the win8 copy that's out right now is the x86 branch.
we need the arm branch to at least begin to start trying to get it working.
plus we need an unlocked bootloader as well.
Hey there, i hope i`m right in here and you pros can answer me some questions.
We are currently building a new software which will be released soon, i won`t go into details in here, because we not ready to release some infos about it yet. Anyway, thats not the problem....
Here is my question: Our Software could expand to TVs and now we are searching on how to get our solution onto TV Screens. We cam across all those Android based TV Boxes, we ordered some and tested them, unfortunatly they didn`t offer everything we needed.
Sooo, is it possible to release a custom Android Installation on such a Box?
What if we get the blank hardware boxes, can we get an Android Installation up and running? (With the paid help of some XDA-Developers..)
We would really need a stripped down Version only with our APP and some other stuff running.
Also another question, if it is possible to release a custom box, is it legal to Google`s Terms?
We are brand new in this field, so please be so kind and help us out. If it is possible and we can implement this thing we are definitly will be going over xda-developers, because we just don`t have any clue about Android Systems.
Are you meaning something like this?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/244278/meet_cotton_candy_the_dualcore_android_usb_device.html
We all know that Android is flexible enough to be put on phones, tablets, laptops, and TVs. FXI, a technology lab based in Norway, decided to add USB drives to Android’s host of platforms.
FXI’s Cotton Candy USB device might look like any other flash drive, but it packs smartphone parts like a dual-core 1.2GHz Samsung Exynos processor and its own ARM GPU for 1080p video playback. It also has lots of connectivity, including Wi-Fi, HDMI, Bluetooth, and a MicroSD card slot to expand its 1GB of storage.
This Raspberry Pi-eqsue miniature PC comes with Android 2.3 (also known as Gingerbread). When you plug it into a PC or Mac, it automatically bring up a separate pop up for the Gingerbread OS. This functionality could be used to bring Android apps or games to any computer. Alternatively, if your HDTV has HDMI ports, you could potentially turn it into a smart, Internet-connected monitor.
Angry Birds might be a little hard to play on your TV. [Photo: FXI]
The only down side of the device is that it is not supported by Google, so you won’t be browsing the marketplace anytime soon. Instead, FXI is working to get a third-party app store together. For now, though, you'll have to side-load any apps you want to run on it.
FXI is in talks with other companies to bring Cotton Candy to market by the second half of 2012 and predict that the device will cost "well under $200" according to The Verge.
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MoPhoACTV Initiative
Yes, thats also this kind of thing we might need. But currently we are more looking into these kind of Boxes: cect-shop.com/Android-TV-Box_c55_x1.htm
And we would need a custom Android installation on one of these boxes? As asked above, is this possible and legal?
Why android?
i don't know the exact details about, but I think getting regular linux to run on a set op box is easier and cheaper to customize with exactly the software you want it.
It doesn`t have to be Android. Andorid was just a possible solution we found and the other reason is that i`m capable of programming apps for Android so it was the closest possibility.
You say Linux...hmm... also a possible solution.
Lets tell you at least some details. The Box should run only with our application, and should be able to be connected to a TV where the application is started then and does their thing. It`s a specialized kind of Software Application for targeted companys.
What it should be able to do:
At least an output resolution of 1280 * 720
Connectable with HDMI, DVI etc. to Televisions
As you say Linux, are you capable of doing such a thing? We might need you...
Or do you have some resources where we can find some developer who can achieve this?
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It doesn`t have to be Android. Andorid was just a possible solution we found and the other reason is that i`m capable of programming apps for Android so it was the closest possibility.
You say Linux...hmm... also a possible solution.
Lets tell you at least some details. The Box should run only with our application, and should be able to be connected to a TV where the application is started then and does their thing. It`s a specialized kind of Software Application for targeted companys.
What it should be able to do:
At least an output resolution of 1280 * 720
Connectable with HDMI, DVI etc. to Televisions
As you say Linux, are you capable of doing such a thing? We might need you...
Or do you have some resources where we can find some developer who can achieve this?
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I think any experienced linux dev is capable of doing such a thing, not that difficult. Get a good supported distro, remove all the bells and whistles and let it just boot to your application. I think that is the most elegant solution. Android is much more difficult to customize in such a way. I might have the technical skills to pull it off, but I'm not interested, sorry.
It all depends on your needs and resources. Try googling for embedded linux. linuxfordevices.com is a good place to start i think.
Why the choice for a setopbox and not a regular application? In call centers and other businesses normal programs are used to display information on a large screen, while running on a regular OS. The cost of having to develop and deliver support on not only the software, but also on the setopbox and its embedded OS is quite large. You have to take that into account. Given that you post this question on this forum, I suspect that your resources are rather limited. If I were you, I would reconsider the choice for a setop box.
First, thx for your time...and second, i understand what you mean in your post, but our software already runs on Mac OS, Windows and iOs, so we already have an application running. The settopbox would just be an addition, because some of our customers might need such a thing. Thats the reason why i`m doggling around searching for some ideas.
Our resources are limited sure, but not too limited, the reason why i posted here, is because i`m searching for answers here too, and xda is always a good place to ask in my opinion. We are going other ways too, let me make that clear!
So, i understand what you meant by Linux, i am now contacting some Linux devs who might want to achieve this.
Thx!
I was curious if anyone had any idea if the Prime would be able to run Win RT when released. I think it would be awesome to have access to both systems on this hardware. Hey the Asus Tablet 600 has a Tegra 3 also.
Given how the Prime struggles to run Android properly, I wouldn't place much hope on it. Certainly Asus wouldn't be supporting it. They're too busy as it is trying to fix up the Android experience.
Maybe the XDA devs will come up with something...
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I was curious if anyone had any idea if the Prime would be able to run Win RT when released. I think it would be awesome to have access to both systems on this hardware. Hey the Asus Tablet 600 has a Tegra 3 also.
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From what I understand, the Asus Tablet 600 basically a Transformer Prime, except it has double the RAM. So, I'm certain it would run on our TF201s, but the problem is Win RT is only available installed on new devices. You won't be able to buy a disc or download it from MS like Win 7 or W8. If someone were to somehow extract the image from a device, say the 600, I'm sure it would be more likely than not that it would run on our tabs.
I'm also hoping for this to happen. Dual boot would be sick, but I might even replace Android with WinRT if I had to. I'd probably go back and fourth between OSes if it weren't too complicated.
Fingers crossed
from what i have read, windows rt would require a different bootloader.
so there is basically no chance it would come to the tf201
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
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hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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Tablet based on Tegra or Snapdragon gets Windows RT. This is Windows for ARM and will not run normal PC games.
Tabled based on X86 (for example Intel) gets Windows 8. This is windows for PC and will be able to run normal PC games (and windows applications). (if the GPU has enough power ofcourse)
Though I expect the ARM version will have much better battery life and is more suitable for a tablet.
And keep in mind that game developers are already making game engines for Windows RT. For example, there is already a demo for the Unreal3 Engine.
madshark2009 said:
hey guys there is a rumor about windows 8 coming out for tablets and im so excited for that .. yet my question is will this windows 8 for tablet be able to run windows games like a PC ? lets say i want to install some game like Need for speed or call of duty will it be able to run it as a PC windows ?
Thanks
With all respect
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i believe you're expecting to intall windows on Prime. Sorry to dissapoint you, but this will not be possible.. Windows 8 for tablet will only be available for OEM.
ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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Only available to manufacturers. Is not like normal windows where you buy a license on a store and install on any x86 computer. Is more like Windows Phones where the OS is attached with the phone..
And since is a closed source OS, i doubt the community can install it on other devices (maybe on tablets where exists models for both versions with the same hardware this can be done, i don't know)
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ooh thanks guys ! and what do you mean only available on oem ? ive seen videos on youtube about this asus having windows 8 on it ? well ?
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If you search wikipedia for Windows 8 RT you will see the hardware requirements and then see why you should not expect to see W8 on the TFP:
Hardware buttons: Must have five hardware buttons - 'Power', 'Rotation lock', 'Windows Key', 'Volume-up', 'Volume-down'. The Windows Key to be at least 10.5 mm in diameter.
Five-point digitizers: Microsoft requires that Windows 8 touch PCs use digitizers supporting a minimum of five touch points.
Mobile Broadband: If a mobile broadband device is integrated into a tablet or convertible system, then an assisted GPS radio is required
Display: Minimum native resolution/color depth is 1366x768 at a depth of 32-bits. The physical dimensions of the display panel must match the aspect ratio of the native resolution. The native resolution of the panel can be greater than 1366 (horizontally) and 768 (vertically).
Near field communication: Devices supporting NFC need to have visual marks to help users locate and use the proximity technology.
New button combination for Control-Alt-Delete: The new option is to press Windows Key + Power.
Storage: At least 10 GB free space, after the out-of-box experience completes.
Graphics: Direct3D 10 device with WDDM 1.2 driver
Camera: Minimum resolution 1280 x 720[5]
Ambient light sensor: 1-30k lux capable with dynamic range of 5-60K.
Accelerometer: three axes with data rates at or above 50 Hz
Magnetometer and gyroscope
USB 2.0: At least one controller and exposed port.
Networking: WLAN and Bluetooth 4.0 + LE (low energy)
System firmware: UEFI
Built-in speaker and microphone[6]
If anyone can resolve the hardware issues they then have to persuade MS to supply them with W8 Licences (projected to be 85$). There is no indication that W8RT will be sold as a retail product and it will be sold to tablet manufacturers - OEM's -original equipment manufacturer / manufacturing.
If I remember correctly, there was an app you could download from Google Play Store which would allow you to run a version of Windows 8 on your Transformer tablets. It required that you have W8 installed on a desktop and connected your tablet to it. If the system can run the OS if you paid for the app, it should be able to run it standalone as well. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions...
Long story short, possible but unlikely.
You're looking for Windows RT, the ARM version of Windows 8 (vs the Intel version that will run all the old apps we known and love and run on our intel computers). It is certainly possible (hell, probably extremely easy) to install Windows RT on our Transformer Primes. In fact I'd venture a guess to say most of Asus' Windows RT tablets are nothing but transformers, an extra button, and a few extra hardware features Windows mandates it have (ie the "Windows" button). That being said, in a TECHNICAL sense, it should be uber easy to install Windows RT.
The issue comes with licensing, legalese, and most of the crap most of us here hate because all it does is make our lives more difficult and expensive when we know damn well the hardware is capable. Microsoft has already said a few things that don't sit right with me. A few below:
1. All Windows RT devices must have locked UEFI bootloaders (ie, NO installing Android or Ubuntu, when all 3 COULD be installed in dual-triple boot configurations)
2. Windows RT will only be available to OEMs to be installed from the factory (no installing to Android devices, despite the hardware being capable.)
3. All Windows RT devices must only be able to install software from the market (with MS's 30% cut like Apple) and ONLY be for the metro environment, not the legacy desktop.
This all being said, I'm the proud owner of the HTC HD2 and if you look at that thing, which Microsoft said would never get Windows Phone despite satisfying 98% of their hardware specs, it's currently running the latest versions of Windows Phone AND Android (JB). This is all from a device that shipped with Windows MOBILE 6.5 in October of 2010. Performance is on par with single-core windows phones and single-core snapdragon chips (similar to what's in the original EVO).
It's possible, the question is, who's willing to cross Microsoft, and what kind of encryption needs to be broken first. It WILL happen, the question is a) how long and b) which devices are popular/worth it enough to MAKE it happen.
Until Microsoft fixes their current trajectory to their own 'clo$ed eco$y$tem' like Apple, I'll wait...
Hello Guys,
I have bought a Dell Latitude t02g Table. The specs looks great - Windows 7 Pro - 1.5ghz atom processor, 2 GB Ram, 64GB SSD.
I think the specs are great but its just too damn sluggish when i run facebook or any flash games on it. very unresponsive on normal browsing.
I think this tablet can be great on Google Android x86 platform but After doing a lot of research - I see that people have installed LUBUNTU on it or windows 8 on it and are in a compromised situation. Where Windows 8 has blue screens and etc and moving on Lubuntu, has limited the functionality of he hardware graphics and rotations.
So much money paid for a device that promises a lot and so much disappointment .
I just wish if we could have a forum for this device where the XDA Team can make something super for this device - maybe an android port over that fully works and makes teh tablet smooth like other tablets.
Do you think there is something already out there that has fixed the tablet and makes it shine like a star as advertised? or will there be further enhancements on this and i can wait for it?
Or should i just sell it off for literally peanuts and forget about it
Any help/ hints would be great.
Thanks
AJ
delldell latitude 10 st2
I also wanted to know if for the dell latitude 10 st2 there was solution?
Try the latest windows. That's what I did. To make good use out of it. I installed Kodi n hooked it up to my TV via HDMI worked well. N then sold after a few weeks. Let me know how it goes
There's a fork of android for x86 architecture (http://www.android-x86.org/ ). Some year or two ago I tried few of provided builds but with mixed success. The issues is that bundled drivers are either generic and performance is bad, or different builds have different modules working ( like WiFi but no sound or sound but no WiFi)
It's not that difficult to get two kernel .config files from two most "working" builds and merge them together and build a new kernel, but the process itself is very time consuming (you have to compare files option by option manually, automerge is not an option in this case)
Builds were tegav2, asus_laptop and eeepc
Looks like http://www.android-x86.org/ project moved quite far since that time so maybe you want to give it a try. It's rather brick-safe and you can always go back to Windows/Linux.
Speaking of which, right now my ST has Win10 installed, but performance is bad. I'm thinking of installing clean ubuntu (from Minimal CD) with i3 WM to get maximum out of that hardware. On other laptop with similar specs such setup looks very promising