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+10 char. Barnes and nobles.
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor-source-code.zip
u forgot link http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor-source-code.zip
that was fast
This is awesome.
Looks like B&N understand that they have something much bigger than an ereader.
I, for one, had not been interested in this device until I saw the posts here about it being rooted and being able to install other programs on it. I went out and bought it last night and will hold on to it until an easier root method is published.
Well of course they understand But since at $250 they're probably not making much, if any profit off the machine, they need to sell content and they have two options:
1) Close the machine off Amazon style and force people to buy content from you, or
2) Open the platform, hope more people buy your device and hope that translates into content sales (book, magazines, etc...) where the money is.
Seems like they're blending #1 and #2 but with a bit more #2... Pretty good for us.
Hopefully, the cooked ROMs will allow to access the stock B&N reading program as well. It's a bit slow at times but it's a pretty good reader with strong book management capabilities (shelves) and the magazines are pretty good too.
Don't mean to sound dumb, but what exactly is this a link for?
Hopefully the link is to the source code used to compile the Android OS on the Nook Color.
Maybe I will even finally compile me some Android.
At the very least it would seem that combining parts of this with AOSP 2.2 might yield one / several usable froyo kernels for the NC. Easy to say, definitely more complicated to actually do.
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Well of course they understand But since at $250 they're probably not making much, if any profit off the machine, they need to sell content and they have two options:
1) Close the machine off Amazon style and force people to buy content from you, or
2) Open the platform, hope more people buy your device and hope that translates into content sales (book, magazines, etc...) where the money is.
Seems like they're blending #1 and #2 but with a bit more #2... Pretty good for us.
Hopefully, the cooked ROMs will allow to access the stock B&N reading program as well. It's a bit slow at times but it's a pretty good reader with strong book management capabilities (shelves) and the magazines are pretty good too.
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I like the device so much, alll I do is talk about how good it is and how it compares for the money.
I highly recommend it to everyone looking for a reader, that's capable of much more.
I'm surprised how many people are interested
I bought one yesterday and already have it rooted. Additionally, I have ADW Launcher, all of my favorite apps/games, DroidX keyboard, etc. I agree that this is easily one of the best values in the tablet segment. I'm really eager to see Android 2.2/2.3 though.
I got my Nook last week and use it quite a bit. I too agree it is the best tablet around, especially when you consider the price point. I'm using it now even with tapatalk. Most of my friends are probably tired if hearing me extol its virtues. Once Froyo or Gingerbread hits, along with bluetooth (if possible) this thing will be even more awesome.
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Got one for my wife last week, rooted it right away and we both think it's great. It's the only tablet in the house and I'm using it more than she and considering buying another NC just for myself.
Perhaps I should just be patient with Honeycomb (supposedly) coming out early 2011, along with new devices designed specifically for a more tablet friendly OS. Does anyone question whether NC will be able to run Honeycomb?
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Got one for my wife last week, rooted it right away and we both think it's great. It's the only tablet in the house and I'm using it more than she and considering buying another NC just for myself.
Perhaps I should just be patient with Honeycomb (supposedly) coming out early 2011, along with new devices designed specifically for a more tablet friendly OS. Does anyone question whether NC will be able to run Honeycomb?
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The answer to honeycomb relies on two things (the way i see it):
1) We must be able to boot custom roms. From what i gather, alot of progress is being made there already, so i doubt that will be too much of an issue. If we can get a recovery option, and be able to do nandroid backups, it would be even safer.
2) The hardware must meet HC's specs. This is the real question mark - what kind of hardware will HC actually need? As it is, our tablets really aren't lacking in the hardware department, and a custom overclocked/undervolted kernel should really help (speed boost to 1.0-1.2). As it is, our A8 CPU and SGX530 GPU are no slouch (though yes, our GPU is weaker than top end gear), and the 512MB ram should really help performance. Again, it comes down to what custom kernels and roms can be cooked up for our hardware..
B&N Clerk Talked About Hacking It
jtreminio said:
Looks like B&N understand that they have something much bigger than an ereader.
I, for one, had not been interested in this device until I saw the posts here about it being rooted and being able to install other programs on it. I went out and bought it last night and will hold on to it until an easier root method is published.
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Hi,
I got one yesterday. Can’t open it until Christmas, since it’s my present from my wife. Anyway, when I bought it the clerk was talking about training. I told ther that the person that was getting it was very tech savvy. She said “They will get it home and hack it in about an hour. You know it can be hacked into a full tablet computer.”
This was from the cashier.
Best sub 300 tablet in the market right now
Its basically a 7 inch droid x
Hope we get aosp rom soon
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what are the specks on the nook?
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what are the specks on the nook?
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Check the specs on the wiki page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nook_Color
Smooth...
I have been watching this ColorNook development since they announced it coming to market.
Bought one 5 days ago after autonook was finished. For $250 it beats the market tablets hands down. Tethered it wirelessly to my Droid and I was in business.
Glad I made the leap. Rotting took less than an hour. Great job guys.
Thanks
The nook color is an awesome little device! I chose it over the galaxy tab, (it was way too expensive, & i didn't want another two year contract with sprint). It's crazy how much people on craigslist are charging for a tab, they get up to $600!, no thank you, i'm happy with my autonootered/rooted nook, & it didn't cost me an arm and a leg I recommend you guys pick one up, it's only gonna' get better.
Ok, been floating around here for months... I've tried most of the roms out there..
Right now I'm using Cyanogen 7...
It works great, it's fast, 99% of everything works... except... the camera and HW video acceleration...
Which rom should I use if I want 100% of the device to work.
If I switch over to a Vegan 5 rom, the cam works, but then my 32 gig sd card doesn't show up....
So, I'm asking for someones opinion...
What is the best 100% working rom... Plus'es and Minus'es on it, work-arounds?
I can bounce around in a file manager and get things off the sd card, but the kids and wife can't... that's why I haven't stuck with Vegan 5...
Any help/opinion would be great.
Thanks,
Tim
Get "Camera Fun" from marketplace. Works fine on a Gtab using C M 7.
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Rooted stock.
But for family friendly use, its hard to beat. After the market fix that is.
Or VEGAN Ginger 7.0
I am back on rooted 4349 because the kids can use it. VEGAN Ginger seems 40% faster than stock though.
That's what I am/was leaning towards, however I can't figure out how to have the system load from my 32 gig sd instead of the internal...
The kids have movies that eat up the internal rather quickly
Thanks for the reply.
Tim
But netflix works on cm 7 and not on vegan. Cm 7 is the most advanced
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CM7.1 RC1
works the best just replace the DSPmanager with the one from nightly 83
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CM7.1 RC1
works the best just replace the DSPmanager with the one from nightly 83
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Gets my vote too, everything works great: Netflix, YouTube, games like asphalt 6 etc.
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But netflix works on cm 7 and not on vegan. Cm 7 is the most advanced
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Netflix works on vegan GE now with a little tweaking. Check out this helpful post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15147560&postcount=13
C7 better than caulk Clemson v6? I never used CM7. what are the major pros for cm7. This is my first rom. Thx
ONLY a froyo rom will work 100%, since that's the only android source that is available to work from. Ginger and HC are frankensystems, taking code from here and there to get a working OS.
I'm on Calk/Clem v6 1.2 bootloader and everythign is working fine. You'll get hardware acceleration, you'll have a working camera, you'l have access to SDcard. you won't have Netflix, but honestly, people, is the selection of netflix movies that stream really that great? Besides that, you'll need a wifi connection to stream them anyway. You mentioned that you have movies on the SD, then do you really need netflix? I only ever access netflix at home, through my Wii, so, no need for it on the tablet.
besides...check out "megaviewer pro"
Agreed 100 % with Calkulin/Clemsyn combo. Used it for a while until I tried Beasty2.2.a/Clemsyn combo on 1.2bl and stayed there since. Same if not better, and can play PlantsVsZombies.
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ONLY a froyo rom will work 100%, since that's the only android source that is available to work from. Ginger and HC are frankensystems, taking code from here and there to get a working OS.
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See, that's what I thought so I've been looking for a good Froyo rom, but apparently now everyone is going gaga about Vegan GE. Folks claim its just as fast as the froyo edition (most forms of HW acceleration are now working, aside from HD playback if I understand correctly).
Also, wasn't a HC rom released last week for one of the sister tablets to our G-tab (think it was the Adam)? That should mean native driver support for HC.
But honestly, now I don't know what to think, and since I share this tablet with my wife and kids, I can't afford to go testing all the roms out there to find a good one.
you won't have Netflix, but honestly, people, is the selection of netflix movies that stream really that great? Besides that, you'll need a wifi connection to stream them anyway. You mentioned that you have movies on the SD, then do you really need netflix? I only ever access netflix at home, through my Wii, so, no need for it on the tablet.
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See, I hate it when people say that. That's what people say when they want to justify their choices and just accept the lot given to them. Remember when iOS users said they don't really need MMS because they have email? Or that they really didn't need multitasking? But when they got all those things, suddenly they turned from "who needs that" to "look what the iPhone can do!". How many iOS users say they don't really need flash anyway, and secretly loathe that we can do it and they can't?
I'm glad you are happy streaming netflix with your wii. Do you remember last year when that didn't work yet? Every day I would check and see "Coming Soon" on their website. Did you feel like "meh, I don't need it on my Wii- I have it on my laptop!"?
Meanwhile, netflix was actually one of the deciding factors to get a tablet. Right now, when we go on family trips we pack light and bring a netbook for casual browsing and mini-movies. Until I saw netflix running on the G-tablet via a youtube demo a couple of months ago, I didn't consider replacing it with a tablet as an option.
So, you might even say this is rather critical for some people. Heck, I've been stuck on CM7 all this time, which I don't particularly like, for this very reason. Just think before you say stuff like that, you know? Especially if you want folks to trust your opinion.
I got my gtab mostly for watching downloaded videos, web browsing, some gaming. My first rom upgrade was vegan-tab ginger edition. Did not play videos as well as I hoped(choppy). Had some minor issues with sound. I switched to calk/clem ver 5 and videos are smooth and most video players work. I'm not into neflix, but Hulu, Flash, slingplayer, all work. It may not be the best rom, but it works for me.
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I got my gtab mostly for watching downloaded videos, web browsing, some gaming. My first rom upgrade was vegan-tab ginger edition. Did not play videos as well as I hoped(choppy). Had some minor issues with sound. I switched to calk/clem ver 5 and videos are smooth and most video players work. I'm not into neflix, but Hulu, Flash, slingplayer, all work. It may not be the best rom, but it works for me.
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I'd guess that is because of the lack of HW acceleration in Ginger. Seriously, why is everyone running away from Froyo roms? ::scratches head:: what am I missing?
Meanwhile, does calk/clem support BT keyboards? I have a BT keyboard that is working great on the ginger roms I've tried. A little scared it won't work in Froyo...
@Dishe:
The netflix account I use isn't even mine, it's my stepfathers. He got it a while back, to get videos in the mail. Then he started streaming to his laptop. He gave me his password so that I could get it on my Wii. Since then, about Christmas time, I think I may have watched one complete movie at home. I just have never found their selection of streaming videos to be that great that it was an application that I absolutely needed. I usually download movies from ThePirateBay.org and watch them with my netbook connected to my TV.
So, for Me, Netflix isn't an application that I will justify not having by downplaying it. I didn't have it 7 months ago on anything. I tried it, and really couldn't find anything to like about it. When my stepfather offered my his account, I seriously thought that I would be able to rid myself of the over 300 DVDs that I own, because "I could just stream anything on Netflix." Well, I started searching their library for movies that I own, and pretty much none of them were available. So, I can be 100% sure that not having it on my G-Tablet isn't a justification of not being able ot have it. It's a realization that I hardly ever use it on a device that it runs flawlessly on, so it's not remotely necessary on a device that it might be able to run on.
I downloaded Megaviewer pro, which also streams videos, and it can actually find nearly every movie I search for.
I did take my g-tablet on a mini-vacation last week. I had "kidvideos" (good for cartoons for the little ones) and Megaviewer installed on it. I can honestly say that my son never even asked if he could watch a movie on it. The only time we could even consider it was when there was a network around that I could log into, anyway. So, you're anchored, and the selection is minimal.
MAybe if we had 3G capabilities, it might be worth it. But right now, the only place I can stream videos is at home, where netflix works fine on the 52 inch screen...rather than the 10 inch one.
for your BT question...I don't have one to test, but my BT GPS does work on it.
Edit: Oh, and why is everyone running away from Froyo....because it's old news. The tablet community is all about the latest and the greatest. Why did everyone want Vista when XP worked just fine? It's just a mentality that the newest product must be the best product. I never understood it either. I've been using Froyo since getting my tablet, and never even considered Gingerbread, knowing it's limitations. The basis of my opinion is that our devices came with Froyo, has drivers for Froyo, and works 100% with Froyo...
and yes, I'm still on XP, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Fair enough on the netflix thing. But other people love netflix streaming- myself included. I catch up on old TV shows and randomly pick new movies to watch. Something I forgot to mention is that its nice having it on the Tablet because sometimes there's a movie my wife doesn't care for, so I can watch it on my own anywhere instead of hogging the TV or computer. Its nice to watch it on a tablet from bed or the couch or places a laptop would be awkward to use.
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Edit: Oh, and why is everyone running away from Froyo....because it's old news. The tablet community is all about the latest and the greatest. Why did everyone want Vista when XP worked just fine? It's just a mentality that the newest product must be the best product. I never understood it either. I've been using Froyo since getting my tablet, and never even considered Gingerbread, knowing it's limitations. The basis of my opinion is that our devices came with Froyo, has drivers for Froyo, and works 100% with Froyo...
and yes, I'm still on XP, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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See, I just had this conversation with someone in another thread!
Sometimes newer is better- Froyo brought JIT, voice search, and other great features and performance enhancements. Now it works great, and is exactly what our devices came with! But moving on to an unsupported rom just because its newer is EXACTLY like XP to Vista, IMO!
I love to trick out my machine, but at the end of the day I want it to work the best it possibly can. Vista didn't do that, so I stuck with XP until Windows 7 (which, btw, is a fantastic and worthy upgrade from XP). The same is true of tablets, however without continued support from Viewsonic, or Froyo roms from the community (and l0rd knows I don't have the time to pick up development myself anymore), I feel like certain bugs will never get fixed. Skype 2.0, btw, will apparently work with video chat on Gingerbread enabled devices with cameras (not on G-tablet yet, but with Galaxy working within hours of announcing the new Skype, I think it might soon). Between that and Netflix, I'm really not sure what I'd rather anymore.
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Skype 2.0, btw, will apparently work with video chat on Gingerbread enabled devices with cameras (not on G-tablet yet, but with Galaxy working within hours of announcing the new Skype, I think it might soon). Between that and Netflix, I'm really not sure what I'd rather anymore.
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Actually, skype video only work for ONE specific android device. This is not a bug. This is corporate incompetence.
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Actually, skype video only work for ONE specific android device. This is not a bug. This is corporate incompetence.
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Someone hasn't been reading the news...
http://techcitement.com/mobile/skype-2-0-for-android-brings-video/
Dishe...The XP to Win7 analogy is fitting here. Let's take my tiny little Acer Netbook here. Supposedly, it's not able to run win7, due ot hardware limitations. That's exactly the case with the G-Tablet.
Now, if Acer were to develop a way (drivers and such) that I was able ot run Win7, then I would probably switch. The fact is, my netbook was created to run XP, so, I know that XP is the only OS that will run properly on it.
The G-Tablet, has hardware that is CAPABLE of running Gingerbread and Honeycomb, and I assume, eventually Ice Cream Sandwich (why do these nicknames make me hungry?)
The problem, is that Viewsonic/Nvidea have failed at providing the drivers and such that will make it possible to run these newer Android versions.
Sure, I could attempt to install Win7 on my netbook, but then I'll be *****ing and complaining when things don't work, or won't work. Same as if I continue to lie to myself in thinking that Gingerbread or Honeycomb will work flawlessly within the constraints of the hardware that we are using.
I commend the people that try their hardest to get these things working. They do it for the joy of saying that they did it. They provide something to the users that gives them hope that it will eventually be a reality. I truly believe that it will be, as long as Nvidea cooperates, which they said they would, as long as device providers request the drivers...none have, as of yet. We thought that Notion Ink was, but they are using the pieced together rom that tabletroms developed...essentially failing their own community.
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Dishe...The XP to Win7 analogy is fitting here. Let's take my tiny little Acer Netbook here. Supposedly, it's not able to run win7, due ot hardware limitations. That's exactly the case with the G-Tablet.
Now, if Acer were to develop a way (drivers and such) that I was able ot run Win7, then I would probably switch. The fact is, my netbook was created to run XP, so, I know that XP is the only OS that will run properly on it.
The G-Tablet, has hardware that is CAPABLE of running Gingerbread and Honeycomb, and I assume, eventually Ice Cream Sandwich (why do these nicknames make me hungry?)
The problem, is that Viewsonic/Nvidea have failed at providing the drivers and such that will make it possible to run these newer Android versions.
Sure, I could attempt to install Win7 on my netbook, but then I'll be *****ing and complaining when things don't work, or won't work. Same as if I continue to lie to myself in thinking that Gingerbread or Honeycomb will work flawlessly within the constraints of the hardware that we are using.
I commend the people that try their hardest to get these things working. They do it for the joy of saying that they did it. They provide something to the users that gives them hope that it will eventually be a reality. I truly believe that it will be, as long as Nvidea cooperates, which they said they would, as long as device providers request the drivers...none have, as of yet. We thought that Notion Ink was, but they are using the pieced together rom that tabletroms developed...essentially failing their own community.
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We are in agreement.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Pretty stoked for this.
Must. Get. Hands. On. This. !.
Thank you for the link, intesting to know. And it also makes my feet tingle with excitement.
right there with u sir
Here is a video of Ubuntu for Android in Action. Officially supported. No hacks or dual boot needed.
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Very excited to try this.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/21/ubuntus-full-desktop-os-coming-to-multi-core-android-devices/
engadget article
That would be so amazing !
Only problem I see is that Ubuntu for Android only seems to be available for vendors (Asus, Motorola, HTC, Samsung, ...) and mobile carriers (AT&T, Bell, ...)
Hope that the Cyanogenmod team can get their hands on this. CM9 + Ubuntu for Android would be so AWESOME !!!
Could this mean that we can get linux usb support instead of having to hack together drivers to support hardware?
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Could this mean that we can get linux usb support instead of having to hack together drivers to support hardware?
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I would think so since USB is one of the requirements to run it.
wonder if anyone get a first hand on this. I would not mind to be beta tester.
The Prime is more than capable to handle it.
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wonder if anyone get a first hand on this. I would not mind to be beta tester.
The Prime is more than capable to handle it.
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Yep! Also like the Ubuntu people said, the more cores, the better. Now this will be something to take advantage of powerful multi-threading capabilities of prime. Quad core tegra3 would push this easily n very fast n smooth also.
This will only work if they can keep the heat down on the processor. That's gonna be the biggest road block that I can see. 4G + charging = hot, so 4G + charging + hdmi mirroring + mucho computing = sizzler. Not sure how hot LTE gets a phone.
This is still a very cool development.
I may be looking at this wrong though, b/c the provided info is mainly about using a phone as a desktop, but the prime could be the desktop. In which, yes, it would definitely have the power to run ubuntu but what is the point? There are already guides to running ubuntu on the prime. Is ubuntu w unity more polished than what is already available?
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This will only work if they can keep the heat down on the processor. That's gonna be the biggest road block that I can see. 4G + charging = hot, so 4G + charging + hdmi mirroring + mucho computing = sizzler. Not sure how hot LTE gets a phone.
This is still a very cool development.
I may be looking at this wrong though, b/c the provided info is mainly about using a phone as a desktop, but the prime could be the desktop. In which, yes, it would definitely have the power to run ubuntu but what is the point? There are already guides to running ubuntu on the prime. Is ubuntu w unity more polished than what is already available?
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Yes, plus you won't have to jump through hoops to get it to work. It'll be officially supported by Android n Ubuntu. No need to hack or dual boot or whatever. It'll launch like an app. Once in desktop mode, Ubuntu, then everything integrated. So you can even launch your android apps from within Ubuntu. Plus access to all the thousands of free full fledged Ubuntu PC apps. So this will be a more complete version than anything we've seen so far on prime. Plus it'll be alot more powerful. Linux/Ubuntu(Backtrack5) on prime doesn't have complete access to prime power, CPU/GPU, and resources. Everything with this new method will be seamlessly integrated into the android experience.
This might just be what android needed to get it over the hump. I can only see things getting better very fast from here on out. Apple has nothing to match or even come close to this experience we about to have.
My apologies but im not familiar with Ubuntu. What kind of advantages are we going to see. Will this be better than Android in terms of games, apps, productivity, etc? Better office? Better Browsing?
Also, whats with the whole docking situation? And anyone have more information on when this is gonna come out?
Thanks
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My apologies but im not familiar with Ubuntu. What kind of advantages are we going to see. Will this be better than Android in terms of games, apps, productivity, etc? Better office? Better Browsing?
Also, whats with the whole docking situation? And anyone have more information on when this is gonna come out?
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more of a real desktop experience. Official PC apps, more in depth productivity and not dumbed down versions for android. Real Office. Docking station is just for phones. We should be able to run it on the tablet itself. No data of release.
For more detailed info just check out the link in the op that takes you to Ubuntu website where they discuss the Ubuntu/Android experience. This will be a big deal.
Well it sounds like it can be, but you're really going out on a limb here dude...might want to pull it in some until this comes to fruition. Just sayin.
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Yes, plus you won't have to jump through hoops to get it to work. It'll be officially supported by Android n Ubuntu. No need to hack or dual boot or whatever. It'll launch like an app. Once in desktop mode, Ubuntu, then everything integrated. So you can even launch your android apps from within Ubuntu. Plus access to all the thousands of free full fledged Ubuntu PC apps. So this will be a more complete version than anything we've seen so far on prime. Plus it'll be alot more powerful. Linux/Ubuntu(Backtrack5) on prime doesn't have complete access to prime power, CPU/GPU, and resources. Everything with this new method will be seamlessly integrated into the android experience.
This might just be what android needed to get it over the hump. I can only see things getting better very fast from here on out. Apple has nothing to match or even come close to this experience we about to have.
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It will be the new convergenceof tech. All that power packing on phone and tablet. Now you can unlease it.
Imagine you have a tablet, then dock with kb to have a netbook, then when you are at office, plug in for the full desktop experience.
This is where tablet can transform the pc.
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This would be amazing if we could run it on the tablet itself, almost sounds too good to be true. Wouldnt care for it as much if it needed to be docked to a computer monitor though. Hope he just did it because the screen size of the phone would make it impractical to run a desktop OS.
i can settle for this until Asus will integrate it!
Seems I'm fated to always play the role of the wet rag..
First, this will go nowhere. It's a proof-of-concept. See the dock? That means it must be a vendor (carrier) implemented solution, as each phone's form factor is different, and there can be no universal dock. This page is a pitch for carriers, not users.
When you get the carriers into the mix, then the question is, why the heck would they want an open-source OS on their product? That would create all sorts of havoc, and would reduce their control on the product. No carrier in its right mind would allow something like this to access their network, let alone officially support it.
Second, the value of the phone is its mobility, go-anywhere access. If dock+big screen are needed just to use Ubuntu, then its utility is marginalized. Ubuntu needs to be accessible and useful on the phone itself, which segues into the last point...
Third, looking at this, I'm disappointed, because it means that the Ubuntu UI still hasn't been adapted to a touch-based, small-screen form-factor. Everybody loves to hate Windows, but at least Microsoft is innovating for once with its Metro UI. Canonical needs to step up and do the same. Whatever it comes up with, Ubuntu needs to be a user-implementable solution, not a vendor (carrier)-based solution, else it will never see the light of day.
I searched but didnt see much since Chrome beta came out. I tried it on my desktop and it worked fairly well, pretty fast and had extensions and whatnot. Do you think this would be possible to get on the Prime? Do you think we even need it for the prime for that matter, Chrome beta is here and extensions will come eventually, but there is no flash. I really liked the multiple logins. Maybe chroot it like ubuntu or dual boot instead? How is Ubuntu coming along anyway, the Dual boot method and the side by side method
Why would you even THINK about turning a device with a quad (quint) core processor into a dumb terminal?
ChromeOS should be dead, should never have been even a concept. Dumb terminals went out with mainframes for a reason.
Yes, I know that mainframes still have uses. I'm fine with that. But we don't need a dumb terminal on every desk. Having your processing power on your desk is a good idea for several reasons. Do I really need to list them?
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Why would you even THINK about turning a device with a quad (quint) core processor into a dumb terminal?
ChromeOS should be dead, should never have been even a concept. Dumb terminals went out with mainframes for a reason.
Yes, I know that mainframes still have uses. I'm fine with that. But we don't need a dumb terminal on every desk. Having your processing power on your desk is a good idea for several reasons. Do I really need to list them?
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All I'm going to say is that you need to do some research into modern corporate IT and cybersecurity. "Dumb terminals" are alive and well.
However, I concur that ChromeOS was a flop.
I think Chrome OS is released years ahead of its time. We are still working with 3g/4g bandwidth issues, limited data plans, skyrocketing overage charges etc. It might actually work well when you dont have to worry about your data plans or losing connectivity. Now, there is a lot of dependency for it to work.
For the question on installing on Prime, Prime is too powerful to run a dumb OS like Chrome (I say it is dumb because it does not need that much processing power). To top it all, it is worse than installing iOS on Prime.
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For the question on installing on Prime, Prime is too powerful to run a dumb OS like Chrome (I say it is dumb because it does not need that much processing power).
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the first samsung chromebook runs on an atom N570 @ 1.66ghz (dual-core). it's a bit difficult to compare the performance of these two chips as the architectures are quite different. tegra3 may have more cores, but thus far web browsers has been better served by fewer, faster cores.
one thing is definitely clear - the performance and compatibility of the chrome browser on ChromeOS currently crushes Chrome on android. the chromebook feels and behaves like a desktop PC browser and the tf201 still feels like a slow, clunky tablet browser. i would love for chrome on my tf201 to perform like a chromebook, but it's just not there yet, not even in performance mode. whether this is the hardware, software, or both is something that i think remains to be determined.
All the bickering aside:
Someone might be able to get ChromeOS running on the Transformer Prime as a standalone OS. However I doubt anyone would be motivated to do so in part because the tablet is WiFi only, and running ChromeOS away from an internet signal would leave you with a useless tablet.
Also Android is like a more advanced and more capable version of Chrome OS. Pretty much everything that Chrome OS can do through extensions, Android can do with built-in features or apps available in the Android Market.
For the same reasons I doubt that Android Chrome will ever support Chrome OS the way you can run it in the Chrome Browser on Windows or MacOSX. Chrome OS is redundant on those systems and very few home users bother using it. It would be even more so on Android since almost all of the functionality available in Chrome OS is available via apps.
Well,
Now 4 jears later... the game has changed a lot.
Now it would be very interesting to have chromeos on the tf201.
Any solution for this?
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As You can see nobody is interested in Chrome OS for TF201, an old device with poor I/O performance.
I see one dev doing custom rom magic for Prime, users are slowly saying "goodbye". My TF201 is still loooking good though.
GibonXL said:
As You can see nobody is interested in Chrome OS for TF201, an old device with poor I/O performance.
I see one dev doing custom rom magic for Prime, users are slowly saying "goodbye". My TF201 is still loooking good though.
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https://github.com/m943040028/chrom...verlay-tf201/chromeos-base/chromeos-bsp-tf201
I usually do not start threads and hang in the shadows here on xda, but I love the site and all the awesome development.
With that said:
Please do not close this thread - This is not a question, or a discussion about a computer. The new Samsung Chromebook with the ARM chip is basically an Android tablet built like a laptop running chrome. It has a Samsung Exynos 5 Dual processor, so this falls under Android development and HACKING for devices that do not have a forum on XDA.
So I have this device and I have to say, it's very well built for the price. The only negative is that it runs Chrome. Now - I'm not here to bash on Chrome OS and I don't need a discussion on the pros and cons of it...
The point of starting this thread is to get Android ported over to this thing. I actually went out and purchased it at Best Buy because I knew that I could go to xda-developers a week later and someone will post instructions on how to install Android. Didn't happen. Not sure why.
So please chime in on ideas on how to get the ball rolling. Who do we have to buy a Chromebook for to make this happen? Do we start a bounty?
Let's keep the xda-developer community going strong! Thank you.
Like you, I did the same.
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I usually do not start threads and hang in the shadows here on xda, but I love the site and all the awesome development.
With that said:
Please do not close this thread - This is not a question, or a discussion about a computer. The new Samsung Chromebook with the ARM chip is basically an Android tablet built like a laptop running chrome. It has a Samsung Exynos 5 Dual processor, so this falls under Android development and HACKING for devices that do not have a forum on XDA.
So I have this device and I have to say, it's very well built for the price. The only negative is that it runs Chrome. Now - I'm not here to bash on Chrome OS and I don't need a discussion on the pros and cons of it...
The point of starting this thread is to get Android ported over to this thing. I actually went out and purchased it at Best Buy because I knew that I could go to xda-developers a week later and someone will post instructions on how to install Android. Didn't happen. Not sure why.
So please chime in on ideas on how to get the ball rolling. Who do we have to buy a Chromebook for to make this happen? Do we start a bounty?
Let's keep the xda-developer community going strong! Thank you.
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As this is arm based I thought for sure there would be an android build for it, a cheaper asus transformer.. its a perfect platform really for Android - I am surprised there isn't more discussion on getting JB ported to this chromebook. Is there any interest?
It has the same Exynos 5 SoC as the Nexus 10, so it seems like it should be possible to get something working for it if it can be hacked to boot another OS. Seems like a kernel based off the Nexus 10 source would be possible.
Google doesn't want Android to be a desktop style OS which is part of the reason they ended the Motorola lapdock after they took over Motorola. But if this thing had Android on it for $249 its a pretty good deal considering it has an Exynos 5.
Samsung Chromebook A15 Exynos
There has been much progress porting Ubuntu Raring Ringtail and Quantal Quetzal to this thing. I look forward to being able to choose between running stable Android and stable Ubuntu (or other distros, even).
With that said, I think that although this device is selling out I'm not sure that enough of these users will be aware of how close this device is to being a true, first Android laptop. From benchmarks I've seen on Phoronix.com the Exynos Dual in this Samsung Series 3 XE303 Chromebook is at least twice as fast as the Tegra 3 Quad in processing and graphics tasks.
Many people don't seem to see the value of Android as a fuller OS that would flourish within a laptop hardware suite. I argue that it is because they do not see the possibilities that software such as ParanoidAndroid would allow for with it's per-app DPI settings and ability to force a Phone, Phablet, or Tablet UI for every single app you run. These features are core to getting the most productivity out of a Samsung XE303 running Android.
I do enjoy the ChromeOS/ChromiumOS interface much because it is simple enough to have a low learning curve, yet it has enough options available to it to be somewhat powerful in the productivity department. It is indeed lacking in its offline capabilities, though. And Android would fix those and then some.
I guess I should also mention that the latest 4.2.1 Android ninja tweaked the native support for gamepads including Sixaxis controllers and Xbow controllers. Now you can game with them for apps that support the controllers. Neat.
Android can be kind of awkward with mouse/keyboard input only. But its the app compatibility of Android which is the biggest selling point. Since it contains a very capable ARM SoC this thing should run all of the latest games on Android no problem.
I'm fairly sure that there are a large number of ASUS Transformer + Dock users that would say they are quite happy with the touchpad/keyboard input on Android 4+.
As for the touchpad and and keyboard on the XE303, it is STELLAR under ChromeOS. Getting it to match under Android is simply a matter of hardware tweaking.
All the Android apps and games I've purchased deserve to be utilized on this device.
+1 for this idea - just got my chromebook today!
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There has been much progress porting Ubuntu Raring Ringtail and Quantal Quetzal to this thing. I look forward to being able to choose between running stable Android and stable Ubuntu (or other distros, even).
With that said, I think that although this device is selling out I'm not sure that enough of these users will be aware of how close this device is to being a true, first Android laptop. From benchmarks I've seen on Phoronix.com the Exynos Dual in this Samsung Series 3 XE303 Chromebook is at least twice as fast as the Tegra 3 Quad in processing and graphics tasks.
Many people don't seem to see the value of Android as a fuller OS that would flourish within a laptop hardware suite. I argue that it is because they do not see the possibilities that software such as ParanoidAndroid would allow for with it's per-app DPI settings and ability to force a Phone, Phablet, or Tablet UI for every single app you run. These features are core to getting the most productivity out of a Samsung XE303 running Android.
I do enjoy the ChromeOS/ChromiumOS interface much because it is simple enough to have a low learning curve, yet it has enough options available to it to be somewhat powerful in the productivity department. It is indeed lacking in its offline capabilities, though. And Android would fix those and then some.
I guess I should also mention that the latest 4.2.1 Android ninja tweaked the native support for gamepads including Sixaxis controllers and Xbow controllers. Now you can game with them for apps that support the controllers. Neat.
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Who exactly is making progress and how do I sign up. How do we get a dedicated forum fired up for this? Let's get this party started, my chrome book should be in in Monday!
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OK I answered my own question. The Ubuntu port instructions can be found here... http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/04/chrubuntu-1204-now-with-double-bits.html
I'd still love to see a JB port.
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Who exactly is making progress and how do I sign up. How do we get a dedicated forum fired up for this? Let's get this party started, my chrome book should be in in Monday!
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OK I answered my own question. The Ubuntu port instructions can be found here... http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/04/chrubuntu-1204-now-with-double-bits.html
I'd still love to see a JB port.
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Me too... I was reading about the Chromebook and thought... ARM CPU needs Android. The games on ChromeOS look pretty damn awful and Android would also bring many emulators to life.. Amiga, Atari, DosBox, Nintendo... And you could do what ChromeOS does in Android but with all the Android extras.
If there was Android for the XE303 Chromebook I'd buy one tomorrow.. maybe two!
Texting
I do a lot of texting, hundreds and hundreds of messages a day.
The only tolerable way used to be Google Voice, but they recently lowered their daily sms limit (that limit is only imposed if you txt through a computer). So my new solution is this: tether my phone to a tablet that has TabletTalk and a keyboard and go at it from there. The Chromebook seemed like a good alternative to that route.
Please don't ignore the community that needs this.
I think JB on the chromebook would be beast. From the score ubuntu is beast! lol. I cant wait till its outta beta. I have had my CB for almost a week, Already bored with the OS. Cant do anything hardly. Time to flash already. Please keep the thread going as we keep it updated more will see and hopefully a dev will step up and tame this beast from the inside out. Thank you for starting this thread. :good::good:
Started working on this already seems the BOOT partition needs to be rewritten to work with UEFI...Anybody wanna help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951114&page=2
I wouldnt bet on a 12" ARM chromebook, rumors say some people at google are getting tired of the chromebook not getting enough traction and are thinking about axing the project, perhaps even the OS itself.
Personally I wouldn't care since they might finally realize the potential of android on laptops and launch a "Nexus 12"
Anyway, any news with the port?
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I wouldnt bet on a 12" ARM chromebook, rumors say some people at google are getting tired of the chromebook not getting enough traction and are thinking about axing the project, perhaps even the OS itself.
Personally I wouldn't care since they might finally realize the potential of android on laptops and launch a "Nexus 12"
Anyway, any news with the port?
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I don't think they would put Android on a laptop seeing as it's not optimized for that type of hardware, but don't get me wrong it would be sweet, however the OS might be able to take advantage of of certain Input controls such as Keyboard, Mouse, Flash Drives etc... most 3rd party apps wont support it or be optimized for it. However a Hybrid ChromeOS/Android may work very well where you have a Standard Chrome OS base with the Ability to run certain android Apps that have been written to take advantage of such input devices. As far as the OS itself it's actually Open source so in theory it should be possible to allow the running of android apps without Google them selves implementing it. it just might be a little challenging.
Figured I'd bump and share.
Got my CB a week or so ago and so far it's been a pretty good device for when I instantly need a new tab open in a desktop format so I can use a full site and keyboard. Today I loaded up the alpha Ubuntu 12.04 build and so far I'm thrilled that I got this full fledged desktop OS on a 250 dollar solid state machine. I might get another 1 or 2 lol
Android could make it even better, especially PA since it has the different layout settings.
Linux + Chrome + Android - $250 = dope laptop
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Figured I'd bump and share.
Got my CB a week or so ago and so far it's been a pretty good device for when I instantly need a new tab open in a desktop format so I can use a full site and keyboard. Today I loaded up the alpha Ubuntu 12.04 build and so far I'm thrilled that I got this full fledged desktop OS on a 250 dollar solid state machine. I might get another 1 or 2 lol
Android could make it even better, especially PA since it has the different layout settings.
Linux + Chrome + Android - $250 = dope laptop
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I'm waiting for Ubuntu to come off of beta and then I'm there!!!! Lol. Its badass for 250.00
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Anyone fancy attempting to get RISC OS running on this, as an alternative desktop OS?
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Anyone fancy attempting to get RISC OS running on this, as an alternative desktop OS?
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Would be nice....However got my hands full trying to get the N10 system image booting the CB..does look very interesting I might add.
rawtek said:
Would be nice....However got my hands full trying to get the N10 system image booting the CB..does look very interesting I might add.
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Less posting, more developing!!! Seriously though, waiting and watching patiently... Good luck!
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hands full trying to get the N10 system image booting the CB
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I expect you'll get there sooner or later - keep at it!
..does look very interesting I might add.
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It should fly on this thing, even only using a single core.