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benyben123 said:
Hi.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1055
Two options here - one is:
S II Original Android Development
other is:
S II Android Development
I can see the description, but I am not fully getting it
Thanks
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See here. (Found in the sticky in the I9100 general section)
You've been around for a while, and been quite active. You should know about forum rule #1...
benyben123 said:
Hi.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1055
Two options here - one is:
S II Original Android Development
other is:
S II Android Development
I can see the description, but I am not fully getting it
Thanks
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Looking and reading tends to help.
how did u guys find it by using the search??? i didn't
benyben123 said:
how did u guys find it by using the search??? i didn't
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... because it's in the sticky in the general section?
Or by typing "original vs android development" in the search box?
Never delete your original question and replace it with [solved]. What one earth is the use if someone with the same questions finds this question later and just sees [solved].
What I've noticed is that there's a lot of thread in "original dev"; but not that much "real" developers. A lot of Rom are just stock with little changes. Except some kernel, I've only seen one original ROM: CyanogenMod. I guess there's also MIUI, but all others could go to "not original dev". Recently I've seen a lot of CM9 variants. Difficult to find real developers in this forum, and others who just use patches from others...
Just my opinion...
Nojevah said:
What I've noticed is that there's a lot of thread in "original dev"; but not that much "real" developers. A lot of Rom are just stock with little changes. Except some kernel, I've only seen one original ROM: CyanogenMod. I guess there's also MIUI, but all others could go to "not original dev". Recently I've seen a lot of CM9 variants. Difficult to find real developers in this forum, and others who just use patches from others...
Just my opinion...
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I agree... but there is kernel development in there too.
Also, MIUI, as far as I know, is derivative from CyanogenMod. So there is some argument about how original it is, really.
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Hi to all.
What do you think about separate Android roms from WM ???
Is it possible to make a new thread in HD2 section sticked for always ?
Everyone could have this what he need .
Anyone think it's a goog idea ?
For example :
HD2 ANDROID ROM Development ?
Well the real problem right now is that there is no true Android ROM. Yes you can run Android but till it's flashed to the actual phone like you would with a WinMo ROM it's not a ROM.
then name it just "HD2 ANDROID Development"
it would be great if there is an own android section
i agree! all Android Dev together
Yeah set it up like they have in the rhodium forum.
enough threads already exist full of spammers...one more?
why not call it "spam here if u want for hd2 android development"
I think it would work out great having another spot for Android. Soon most people will be running Android on the HD2 anyway. Makes sense
+1
this ended up being a huge help for the development on the TouchPro2 (Rhodium). Someone got mods to create a new forum and then they took the liberty of re-organizing all the builds and kept up with the development and its still running nice and neat.
I think this would be a great idea for the HD2, it is about as far along as it can get now and is already attracting more attention. No need to clutter up the WinMo ROM development forums
+1 Also
This made the HD1 forum better with a separate sub-forum for Android.
What I also think would be a good idea in ALL the forums really is a dedicated ROM release forum where ONLY roms can be posted and no general questons etc. That way you could cycle through the rom list without it been swamped with lots of other posts.
i agree, a subforum dedicated to this imortant issue (android on HD2) would be very useful for the general order of the forum according to me.
the android builds are beeing created and updated everyday (thanks to all the developers) but only two 3ds (in different subforums!) exist...
I found finding info about Andorid confusing so please separate in another forum.
+1 I love this idea.
i sign this good idea +1
+1 For a new subforum for HD2 Android development.
+1 its really necessary
ATHiEST said:
+1 Also
This made the HD1 forum better with a separate sub-forum for Android.
What I also think would be a good idea in ALL the forums really is a dedicated ROM release forum where ONLY roms can be posted and no general questons etc. That way you could cycle through the rom list without it been swamped with lots of other posts.
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+1 on both ideas !
+1 from me too never got into android for the tp2 but now i have got bored of win mo on hd2 i am enjoying playind with android
+1 here too. It would make life so much easier (and would get rid of people asking for it )
I dunno. There are only really a couple of threads that are relevant, and you can keep up to date with progress on the irc channel.
I seem to be keeping up ok by READING and SEARCHING.
+1 from me, it would make keeping track of things easier, assuming people read what's there instead of posting crap!
Isn't it time to rearrange the forum a bit?
I can't find my way through all the [kernels] [mods] [devs] etc.
I opt for something like this for the development forums:
Galaxy S II Original Android Development
- Roms
- Kernels
- Mods
- Etc
Galaxy S II Android Development
- Roms
- Kernels
- Mods
- Etc
Galaxy S II Themes and Apps
- Apps
- Themes
What do you guys think?
Its already the same, all you have to do is search with the appropriate keyword.
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OP makes no sense here we have a question posted in the wrong forum .Making more work for the mods who have to move it to Q&A.
jje
Search bar is your Friend. as Bala said, its already arranged for easy search anyway.
personally instead of original development and android development id get rid of both and just have seperate sections for
Roms
Kernels
Themes
Greenie-UK said:
Search bar is your Friend. as Bala said, its already arranged for easy search anyway.
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I don't like the extra hassle of having to search, I'd rather have this big pile of everything organised.
skimminstones said:
personally instead of original development and android development id get rid of both and just have seperate sections for
Roms
Kernels
Themes
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Agree with this.
My preference would be to start off with a section purely for those that know nothing .After ten thousand posts in that section they are then allowed to read the FAQS and GUIDES for the more complicated stuff .
jje
how would you then classify a rom that has a custom kernel and custom themes, like the new ics.
it would fit into all three categories. Would you put a thread in each with the same subject ?
Cosmic Blue said:
how would you then classify a rom that has a custom kernel and custom themes, like the new ics.
it would fit into all three categories. Would you put a thread in each with the same subject ?
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No, it would go into the ROM thread as that is why people would be downloading it. No one downloads a whole Rom just for the kernel do they.
This is my opinion and not the opinion of XDA.
I'm all for formality and having things easier but then is it easier to complicate a user??
My answer would be yes you give people more options it leads to more confusion.
Such as still people not knowing what a development area is for posting in even though Q&A is just above ^^ or is it General this post goes in???
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We as in XDA are always looking into improving and so please don't think these kinds of conversations are not being had, as Mods are users
Hello to all that reads.
Please help
I have recently acquired Galaxy S 2 - It appears to be stuck on Android 2.3.4
PDA: I9100XWKI4
Phone: I9100XXKI1
CSC:I900XEUKH2
No update through Kies, No update via OTA. Ive not rooted it and its already unlocked
Any Suggestions on what ROM i should stick on this?
Thanks in advance
Are you happy with touchwiz? Try watching some videos on different roms. If you do like touchwiz, go look for roms in the Android Development Sections. But if you wanna try something different, look in the Original Android Development Section. I personally like Insanity II. So far the lightest rom I've ever used.
I've personally flashed a large majority of the ROMs out there and I have found that you can have the best of both worlds. Look up SHOstock ROMs and I think you will be more than happy with the results.
Rock SHOstock. Period.
As you cannot even post in the correct section stock until you get knowledge by reading and learning .
jje
Stock. Don't even update it. 2.3.4 was the last update with overscroll bounce
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JJEgan said:
As you cannot even post in the correct section stock until you get knowledge by reading and learning .
jje
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jje
one word for you...... fool
shut up! This is a generalized question, a discussion regarding different cfw's and stocks alike..... that i don't want to have to post in 2 different areas.
Thanks go out to the other guys for the above constructive comments. I shall have a nosey
I like stock. Touchwiz is nice, Stock roms are IMHO better in stability and they're just... stocky
bobidigital said:
jje
one word for you...... fool
shut up! This is a generalized question, a discussion regarding different cfw's and stocks alike..... that i don't want to have to post in 2 different areas.
Thanks go out to the other guys for the above constructive comments. I shall have a nosey
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Your thread is phrased as a question, has a question mark at the end and you added a question mark icon to it. You also describe it as a question above. Yet you choose not only to post in General rather than Q&A, but then have a pop at a senior and respected member (who has been thanked over 1000 times) in contravention of at least two Forum rules.
Good work for a gnarled four post veteran.
One word for you...
Why are all of the sudden so many roms getting "deved" thanks to the flashaholics tool? Maybe it is just me, but I don't see the point in creating these threads when the flashaholics tool already has a thread and is super simple to use. I am just tired of people almost passing themselves as developers when all they have done is used an amazing tool given to us by ktoonsez.
Maybe I am the only one, but I am tired of these suedo-devs that have popped up this week. Ultimately running a hellraising utility on I-9100 roms does not deserve a new thread everytime it happens in my book and it is rather annoying to see all these threads popping up.
I assume that all of the threads that used flashaholics gave credit to the original rom developer and ktoonsez? If so of isn't a problem with me.
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As long as they give the proper credits to devs, i dont see any problem sharing hellraised roms.
This community is based on sharing, let them share the way they want to. In the end its better than nothing
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I agree, but it lessens the effort put forth by real devs. It took me nearly 20 solid hours of work to make my first ROM. I just think we should have a thread dedicated to "hellraised" ROMs and not clog up the dev forum where real ROMs should shine.
This is something that cropped up in the Infuse forums too, however it took a LOT longer for it to happen here than over there.
I think we may need to move to an approach like the I9100 forums - "original" development, and development.
The difference:
Hellraising another ROM that was not created by you is not by any means "original" - for the convenience of users it makes sense to offer these pre-integrated experiences, however, I think that these should be separated from actual original development, where the person releasing the ROM has started from a stock firmware base (whether I9100 or I777 stock firmware) and made their own modifications.
e.g.:
An I9100 firmware author Hellraises and releases here - they are the original developer of the firmware, so it is "original" even if it might not have met the I9100 forums' criteria of "original"
Someone deodexes and modifies a stock firmware - that's "original"
Someone Hellraises another person's firmware from the I9100 forums - not by any means "original"
Like that idea.
They should all put something in title that says flashaholic tool.. Some did that already.
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i'm on the fence about this.
On one hand, those threads are not necessary because I can use the flashaholics tool myself to flash those ROMs. On the other hand, that work is already done and it makes it that much easier to flash (this is mainly good for the newbs that dont feel comfortable using those tools and also good for the lazy people that know how to use the tool but dont feel like doing it themselves). As long as the OP gives the proper credit, I dont see a problem with it.
Those threads also create a place to talk about bugs related to the i777 however its not like anyone can fix them because the original dev is not monitoring that thread.
i'm not sure if a separate section for "original development" is really necessary but I can see why it might help.
Entropy512 said:
This is something that cropped up in the Infuse forums too, however it took a LOT longer for it to happen here than over there.
I think we may need to move to an approach like the I9100 forums - "original" development, and development.
The difference:
Hellraising another ROM that was not created by you is not by any means "original" - for the convenience of users it makes sense to offer these pre-integrated experiences, however, I think that these should be separated from actual original development, where the person releasing the ROM has started from a stock firmware base (whether I9100 or I777 stock firmware) and made their own modifications.
e.g.:
An I9100 firmware author Hellraises and releases here - they are the original developer of the firmware, so it is "original" even if it might not have met the I9100 forums' criteria of "original"
Someone deodexes and modifies a stock firmware - that's "original"
Someone Hellraises another person's firmware from the I9100 forums - not by any means "original"
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I really like this idea, it addresses my real concern of these hellraised threads clogging up actual dev space, as well as making it more obvious that the OP wasn't directly involved in development for it.
nyydynasty said:
i'm on the fence about this.
On one hand, those threads are not necessary because I can use the flashaholics tool myself to flash those ROMs. On the other hand, that work is already done and it makes it that much easier to flash (this is mainly good for the newbs that dont feel comfortable using those tools and also good for the lazy people that know how to use the tool but dont feel like doing it themselves). As long as the OP gives the proper credit, I dont see a problem with it.
Those threads also create a place to talk about bugs related to the i777 however its not like anyone can fix them because the original dev is not monitoring that thread.
i'm not sure if a separate section for "original development" is really necessary but I can see why it might help.
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This is kind of how I feel about it. As others stated, I don't have a major problem when proper credit is given. In part, I don't like the idea of a hellraised rom justifying a new thread, but on the other hand, it exposes me to a rom I might not have seen otherwise.
I think it would be better if there was a subforum for hellraised roms and nonoriginal work (i.e. the script threads or mod ports), and actual development (the OP is the actual creator of what's being shared).
Dont worry Guys, this is being delt with as we speak. All Hellraised and Flashaholic roms will be collected in one thread instead of having multiple threads.
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Dont worry Guys, this is being delt with as we speak. All Hellraised and Flashaholic roms will be collected in one thread instead of having multiple threads.
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Great move.
At least most of them don't have a donate link...
rav4kar said:
Great move.
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This is the i777 forum. I dont see the need to have 14 i9100 hellraised threads. Its a good idea to have these hellraised roms so people can flash and try them, but we think its best to have them in one place instead of cluttering up the Dev forum.
Red5 said:
This is the i777 forum. I dont see the need to have 14 i9100 hellraised threads. Its a good idea to have these hellraised roms so people can flash and try them, but we think its best to have them in one place instead of cluttering up the Dev forum.
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Best. Moderator. Ever.
Red5 said:
Dont worry Guys, this is being delt with as we speak. All Hellraised and Flashaholic roms will be collected in one thread instead of having multiple threads.
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thanks Red!!
I like Entropys idea. Better to have a sub forum. Not throw em all in one thread.
Red5 said:
This is the i777 forum. I dont see the need to have 14 i9100 hellraised threads. Its a good idea to have these hellraised roms so people can flash and try them, but we think its best to have them in one place instead of cluttering up the Dev forum.
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That completely addresses the reason I opened this thread, thank you and please close this thread since there is no longer a need for it to be open since you are already dealing with the issue.
D3M3NT3D_L0RD said:
I like Entropys idea. Better to have a sub forum. Not throw em all in one thread.
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While this works well for the i9100 guys, we wont/dont have that many hellraised roms to warrant its own forum. The reason it works so well in the i9100 forums is because they have a lot going for original development (people creating/tweaking/maximizing firmwares) and the general development. Here we wont have too much going on once those roms are hellraised because they are already tweaked to begin with... so instead of having a separate forum, a single thread is going to be created to house all of the hellraised roms and then issues/questions can be asked/answered in that thread.
Also, I dont like the idea of having a separate i9100 forum under the i777 forum. For that matter, they can go post in the original i9100 thread.
Red5 said:
While this works well for the i9100 guys, we wont/dont have that many hellraised roms to warrant its own forum. The reason it works so well in the i9100 forums is because they have a lot going for original development (people creating/tweaking/maximizing firmwares) and the general development. Here we wont have too much going on once those roms are hellraised because they are already tweaked to begin with... so instead of having a separate forum, a single thread is going to be created to house all of the hellraised roms and then issues/questions can be asked/answered in that thread.
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I'm curious how you would keep that "hellraised roms" thread organized? Would you dedicate one person to update the first post for each new hellraised rom? Scanning through pages and pages, is not really ideal if you want to find a download link......just curious.
Dear Modes...
Is it possible to separate the Android Development forum to sub forums as GB roms & ICS roms.
Its becoming very crowdy and confusing now....
Hope someone is listening...
+ 1 yes, yes
I actually was thinking the same but, when ICS ROM gets officially released (probably in a few weeks), development will only be on ICS ROMs and GB ROMs will be a thing of the past.
But still, I would love to see separate space for ICS ROMs...
This is a great idea - MODS do it
Yet another poster who should know better and post in the correct section instead of messing the forums up with inane posts .
jje
+1
Great idea !
I don't think I've ever seen sub forums on XDA for separate OS iterations, so I doubt it.
By the way, this is a question probably more suited for PM or at the very least Q&A forum, definitely not Android Development...
1) Absolutely should not have had a thread created to pose this question.
2) I don't see the point of splitting the forum further purely along the lines of different Android versions. Having separate forums for the different variations of the SGS2 is fine/necessary, splitting the I9100/T forum into ICS & GB, meh.
all i think is things just need a bit of a cleanup,all the roms that have touch wiz and sammy stuff should go in the original android section and aosp themed roms and heavilly themed roms should go in android development,either that of have sub sections like they do on hd2
Most of the so called custom ROMs are photoshopped icons + JKay's mods. Once ICS gets official and JKay ports his mods to it, Gingebread "development" will disappear on its own, so no need for separate sections.
What we really need is to move all photoshop+JKay stock roms from Original Development to Development, so that original development section gets cleaned up a bit.
proyaz said:
I actually was thinking the same but, when ICS ROM gets officially released (probably in a few weeks), development will only be on ICS ROMs and GB ROMs will be a thing of the past.
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I was thinking the same.
Is not a good idea for me. When will be released officially ICS will have no sense to have two sub-forum.
Not supporting the idea. GB forum would be a desert in a few months, so they would have to merge it back or delete it.
it's a pain find all the info the "Newbies and Noobs" need. +1 I think forums need a cleanup.
Some post from Android Dev are full of the same questions! over and over again.
nio_insane said:
it's a pain find all the info the "Newbies and Noobs" need. +1 I think forums need a cleanup.
Some post from Android Dev are full of the same questions! over and over again.
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You hit the nail on the head noobs posting same question over and over . Why is cause they wont search and dont even read the instructions .So whats the point this is a developers forum not a help forum .Rule is if you are to lazy to search read and learn you dont belong on here .
XDA does not cater to the IWant I Want Know Know crowd .
jje
I think this is a great idea, especially for us noobies out there!
JJEgan said:
You hit the nail on the head noobs posting same question over and over . Why is cause they wont search and dont even read the instructions .So whats the point this is a developers forum not a help forum .Rule is if you are to lazy to search read and learn you dont belong on here .
XDA does not cater to the IWant I Want Know Know crowd .
jje
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Hahahaha i'm not a Android Dev but when i read some topics about "ROMS and FW" i just want a gun to shoot those noobs.
I think a better idea it's rise the amount of helpful topics to new members. Some like 15 or 20 Seriously!