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i tink that LG was waiting for cooking a stock rom based on android 2.4 (instead of the 2.3 promised) because of their similarities, in fact the gpu accelerations for 2D, rumored for the 2.4, can only help our P500 performance.
i hope this, and you?
Ps: i tink that a P500 at 150$ with 2.4 in the very next month can bring android for many doubtful people..
I'm not really keeping my hopes up. I bet the last official update we'll receive is Gingerbread. Most companies focus on their flagship phones, and despite the O1's popularity, I don't think it'll receive much.
Also, IMHO, Google is going too fast. Manufacturers are having a hard time catching up and stuff.
But if you ask me, I'm contented with Froyo. Unless, of course, there's a really badass killer feature available only to future releases.
And I think this should be in the General category
kpbotbot- It's more like manufacturers use the differente Android os'es for marketing uses . Look at samsung , they're waiting to release the native 2.3 devices and bearly then will they release gingerbread for their current flagship : Galaxy S . It's a dirty world .
Yeah. Here's a super thank-able screenshot I took weeks ago
LG and Samsung seem like very different companies. The Optimus line is a very good buy for most carriers. It will convert a lot of users to the Android world like me. LG seems to catter to their users too.
The manufacturers should understand Android devices should follow Googles releases. It seems like most manufacturers just barely make the software and communities like xda do the actual bug fixing and create a more robust system with the custom kernel & ROM releases.
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why would companies spend money and time in the software when
communities like xda do the actual bug fixing and create a more robust system with the custom kernel & ROM releases.
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@orlox - Imagine buying a phone that doesn't come with an operating system.
I prefer if companies release only the lifeless phone, and xda would give life to it.
So androids will be much cheaper
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I prefer if companies release only the lifeless phone, and xda would give life to it.
So androids will be much cheaper
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I like the idea!
Post delivered via piece of paper tied to a brick... sorry 'bout the window! XD
The reason I chose this phone is because, for me, it's a small portable computer. If only every bit of hardware of this phone had a corresponding device driver (that we can get hold of), I think there's nothing stopping us from using a full Linux desktop, or other operating systems capable of running on the ARM architecture.
Not so relevant note: Some say the bootloader is locked. True?
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The reason I chose this phone is because, for me, it's a small portable computer.
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So true!
I am very satisfied with my first Android experience, in spite of all the bugs and hardware limitations of this cheap phone. Almost anything I needed but couldn't do before on my "dumb" phone became possible with this micro computer. So I don't really care if it's running Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Ice Cream or Milk & Toast & Honey.
You would care if it was running Cupcake.
P.S There really is a possibility for us to get 2.4 on our phones. It is still called Gingerbread but it will support Honeycomb apps.
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there are some questions to answer, why people buy a smartphone in general. We must see the differences between users who "use" the mobile as a daily instrument, users who use the mobile to play 3D games, users who read in the internet and communicate with it and users who are tweaking/hacking (not so sad as i write here). Most of users are using their device for communication, and so the manufacturers can say "why we should develop so fast as google? Our users doesn't need the new features like NFC or other". When communities like XDA, Cyanogen,CodeAurora,androidcentral or others develop their ROMs to their needs, they should do that - they are users who "want" the features. So, manufacturers can invest more time and money in new devices for more experience and for advanced users (like technical freaks). We (users who are lucky for while) can buy the "new" device at a later time, so we can save some money. Nothing other does LG,Samsung or HTC - they are developing for the feature. The money and time to invest in updates or bugfixes are too much for the most - this could be one reason for hold back updates or dont develop. As a developer i can say, the time to spend for Gingerbread development is not small - i have needed 3 monthes to develop a rom, that have just some bugs, and i've do that for fun. for a manufacturer this is not fun
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Yeah. Here's a super thank-able screenshot I took weeks ago
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This makes perfect sense from the carrier's perspective. If people had to pay to upgrade to the next version the carriers might have more incentive; as it is now they aren't seeing any more money so why bother investing time on something that could blow up in their face.
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there are some questions to answer, why people buy a smartphone in general. We must see the differences between users who "use" the mobile as a daily instrument, users who use the mobile to play 3D games, users who read in the internet and communicate with it and users who are tweaking/hacking (not so sad as i write here). Most of users are using their device for communication, and so the manufacturers can say "why we should develop so fast as google? Our users doesn't need the new features like NFC or other". When communities like XDA, Cyanogen,CodeAurora,androidcentral or others develop their ROMs to their needs, they should do that - they are users who "want" the features. So, manufacturers can invest more time and money in new devices for more experience and for advanced users (like technical freaks). We (users who are lucky for while) can buy the "new" device at a later time, so we can save some money. Nothing other does LG,Samsung or HTC - they are developing for the feature. The money and time to invest in updates or bugfixes are too much for the most - this could be one reason for hold back updates or dont develop. As a developer i can say, the time to spend for Gingerbread development is not small - i have needed 3 monthes to develop a rom, that have just some bugs, and i've do that for fun. for a manufacturer this is not fun
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Yeah , bro , but you're one man fighting against the tides . It's bound that LG has at least a reminder of 5 man cell team working on getting gingerbread out . And besides they have other ways of getting info and ironing out bugs faster then you can .
Sad that they didn't place on the internet a god damn ETA by now .... thus I guess may or june might a realistic launch date
Oh and to be on-topic with the thread , I guess we'll see 2.4 by CM7 if any of the legendary devs still take interest in this phone ofc
+1 i second that...plus i heard that not all the code used is even OPEN..I mean mik somewhere mentioned that some libraries had no corresponding code in the source code archive....thats gotta stink plus porting of android is different than developiing Linux Distro..I mean no mailing lists and not such a big community of "porters"....but tahts just my take..
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+1 i second that...plus i heard that not all the code used is even OPEN..I mean mik somewhere mentioned that some libraries had no corresponding code in the source code archive....thats gotta stink plus porting of android is different than developiing Linux Distro..I mean no mailing lists and not such a big community of "porters"....but tahts just my take..
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you're right:
many libraries are closed source, it's like a driver from nvidia for Linux X.org.
The only way to port it to a new android version is to test if it works - if not, we have a problem. manufacturer does not support communities, so we have to build many workarounds or rewrite the code so that it works. i would wish, the manufacturers opens their drivers and codecs for playing audio and video - so we can develop faster, more stable and uncomplicated:/
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i've readed the last days that gingerbread 2.4 is the internal 2.3.3 - let's check, if apps for honeycomb work on this version: in 2.4 there should be compatibility for the honeycomb apps^^
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you're right:
many libraries are closed source, it's like a driver from nvidia for Linux X.org.
The only way to port it to a new android version is to test if it works - if not, we have a problem. manufacturer does not support communities, so we have to build many workarounds or rewrite the code so that it works. i would wish, the manufacturers opens their drivers and codecs for playing audio and video - so we can develop faster, more stable and uncomplicated:/
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i've readed the last days that gingerbread 2.4 is the internal 2.3.3 - let's check, if apps for honeycomb work on this version: in 2.4 there should be compatibility for the honeycomb apps^^
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if everything's open then it is unlikely they make money. Then they close down and there won't be any phone.
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@yanuk... seems to be like u have not used linux before...Let me tell you how it works...Theres tons of companies (apart from thousands of enthusiasts) that write OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS for their hardware and submit it to the LINUX KERNEL maintainers(Linus torvalds included) example INTEL..If i m buying an ANDROID phone, i only want to pay for the hardware and not software..All drivers developed by the manufacturer shud be open source ..BUt instead its more like an abuse of the OPEN SOURCE community ..HOw CAn devs go ahead and hack the crap out of their phones, when they have trouble even porting newer OSes because of "some f****** proprietary driver" ...Screw the manufacturers ..I wish OPENMOKO had taken off when it had the chance..OPENMOKO = OPEN SOURCE OS +OPEN SOURCE HARDWARE with all datasheets, spec, circuit diagrams available..RUn whatever u possible can run on an it !!! My dream of having a completely Open (gtk runnin) geek device is still very distant..
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@yanuk... seems to be like u have not used linux before...Let me tell you how it works...Theres tons of companies (apart from thousands of enthusiasts) that write OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS for their hardware and submit it to the LINUX KERNEL maintainers(Linus torvalds included) example INTEL..If i m buying an ANDROID phone, i only want to pay for the hardware and not software..All drivers developed by the manufacturer shud be open source ..BUt instead its more like an abuse of the OPEN SOURCE community ..HOw CAn devs go ahead and hack the crap out of their phones, when they have trouble even porting newer OSes because of "some f****** proprietary driver" ...Screw the manufacturers ..I wish OPENMOKO had taken off when it had the chance..OPENMOKO = OPEN SOURCE OS +OPEN SOURCE HARDWARE with all datasheets, spec, circuit diagrams available..RUn whatever u possible can run on an it !!! My dream of having a completely Open (gtk runnin) geek device is still very distant..
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Seems like you have not worked in and managed any technology firms before.
I'm sincerely hoping your dream come true where you will own a successful openmoko company develop cutting edge technology with over 100 staff and offer your sw and hw for free with no claims to patent rights. All the best!
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Could seriously breathe new life into the tp seeing as how it's supposed to be built to run on lesser hardware.
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Well, it did just come out. CM hasn't even started on it. Can't say I expect a build for at least a month, could be wrong though.
It doesn't run better on lesser hardware per se, just uses less RAM. I don't think we've really been having issues with memory, and we're still stuck with our slow Snapdragon S3.
With the amount of devs the TouchPad has, we are relying on just a handful of people to get 4.4 on it. I feel 4.3 barely made it to the TouchPad. I would love Kitkat on my beloved tablet but I hate to say that I have my doubts.
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With the amount of devs the TouchPad has, we are relying on just a handful of people to get 4.4 on it. I feel 4.3 barely made it to the TouchPad. I would love Kitkat on my beloved tablet but I hate to say that I have my doubts.
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I don't even think there's a doubt someone will do a build... But it's nice to know that we won't be limited by memory. Anyway, chalk this thread up to boredom. My moto x has almost nil going on so I'm hanging out in here
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I don't even think there's a doubt someone will do a build... But it's nice to know that we won't be limited by memory. Anyway, chalk this thread up to boredom. My moto x has almost nil going on so I'm hanging out in here
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If someone does though, I just hope its as usable as it is currently. I have a Galaxy Nexus and I am already seeing bugs with ports to that device. Which isnt normal with a Nexus device. So the TouchPad may not be any better. Dont get me wrong, I really hope we see something though.
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If someone does though, I just hope its as usable as it is currently. I have a Galaxy Nexus and I am already seeing bugs with ports to that device. Which isnt normal with a Nexus device. So the TouchPad may not be any better. Dont get me wrong, I really hope we see something though.
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The galaxy nexus is a problematic device. First, google already said no-kitkat for the GN. Second, it's cpu and TI demise.
Your galaxy nexus is now on the list of abandoned nexus devices.
Now, regarding out tablet, first it's a qualcomm so we're not all alone on this one, but it's a very unsuported and old-unknown-binaries rom.
MAYBE someone figures out how to get the camera and bluetooth working. I keep my hopes high.
Not ready
I'm still having problems getting 4.3 settled on my TP. Too many issues (including repartitioning) still need to be solved first.
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It doesn't run better on lesser hardware per se, just uses less RAM. I don't think we've really been having issues with memory, and we're still stuck with our slow Snapdragon S3.
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I am positive that someone will be get Android 4.4 to work especially with the fact that it uses less RAM for running the applications. Usually XDA and Rootzwiki member drmarble helps at getting the initial work for the next version of Android to work. He helped get Android 4.3 (CM 10.1 and 10.2) to work on the Touchpad. And of course JCSullins will help with developing for Android 4.4.
I am sure ROM builders like Milaq and Shumash will provide CM 11 ROMs that are Android 4.4 based although I wouldn't expect to see a CM 11 ROM until January/February at the earliest and until the official CM 11 development has begun.
Android 4.4 launcher on my HP Touchpad.
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Android 4.4 launcher on my HP Touchpad.
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I tried that too. I dont know why the search bar is of to the left. Maybe its a DPI thing. But we havent seen a Nexus 10 with Kitkat yet. I'm looking forward to seeing what its like on that device.
Running Android 4.4 on my Nexus 7(2012) and I gotta say I love it, except the keyboard pops out every time you navigate to the home screen.
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i just dont see this version becoming popular.
It seems to be more of the integration of other devices and their data harvesting than any user advantages.
Despite the name, and an actual marketing contract with nestle this time, i personally think they chose the right theme colour.
Because its going to be s**t
I see 4.4 more of a stepping stone into a much bigger change to the OS.
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There are a lot of good things under the hood in KitKat. It will be interesting to see if anyone manages to get it running, especially with ART. Too bad my TouchPad is moving on to another owner. Finally decided to pull the trigger on a 2013 Nexus 7 LTE.
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KitKat is coming for the hp touchpad. Even have wifi working for me on the evervolv test build made by flintman
KitKat Pre Alpha Build from Flitnman
Time to start talking about Kitkat and the new ACMEInstaller4/5
Android 4.4 Kitkat Test Build Guide and Links:
[ROM] Evervolv | 4.0.0p1 [AOSP 4.4] [TEST] W/UMS support
Download 4.4 Kitkat Pre Alpha Gapps here:
Notes:Low to Medium battery drain(-4mA to -30mA) h/w video, Test Build Make a Backup!, Automated Updater and Installer, Audio plays with the screen off, Camera, No Bluetooth.
Note: Windows users may need to do the following in order to attach the Touchpad with the USB cable.
1. Go into Device manager. You will see "MTP USB Device" under portable devices.
2. Right Click it and select update driver software
3. Select Browse my computer for driver software.
4. Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer
5. Select USB Mass Storage Device then click next.
and/or
6.To transfer files to PC, turn on USB mass Storage from the USB connection notification on the Android device.
Note(Important): Backup and transfer all your SDcard files to PC. This is a testing build and could wipe files from your SDcard data.
[Note(Important): I would recommend increasing the size of your System Partition for this build. After my install I had 398/400MB free, so Flash the 512MB zip below or use Tailor to adjust the size.
Note(Important): This is an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) rom not a CyanogenMod (CM) rom. Dirty flashing an AOSP rom over a CM rom can causes errors and rebooting issues. Always do a clean install when moving from CM to AOSP and vise versa.
Flash through recovery to change the partition size to 512MB(Gradular&codycoyote)
Download 4.4 Kitkat Pre Alpha Gapps here:
Checkout iMark90's thread here:
I'm running kitkat and yeah its nice
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have to be patient:fingers-crossed:
Hello,
First I want to thank everyone that contributed in development of software for our Samsung Galaxy Ace II. Especially Team Canjica, Rox and many many others!
Jolla, the producent of Sailfish OS, has just released the LibHybris 1.0, which allows the devs to build the Sailfish OS for ANY Android device running CyanogenMod 10.1. It is THE BIG CHANCE for our device!
Sailfish OS is a lot faster and smoother OS than Android. Our device with just 768 MB RAM and dual core Novathor CPU should perform a lot better on Sailfish than on Android. And it is possible to run Android apps on Sailfish too!
http://www.jollausers.com/2014/07/sailfish-os-hardware-adaptation-dev-kit-release-1-0/
So I want to ask our great community to try to port Sailfish OS for our device. We have the very good working CM 10.1, so we should try! It can be the second life for our device
I hope we will start the great discussion and the devs will be helpful
Please, port this amazing system to Ace II
Cheers
I dig this! If someone wanted to develop this i would be happy to try this os.
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Even though I'm migrating to the fastest android phone ever, if SailfishOS is released for the Ace 2, I would be a VERY happy man! Please make it happen! Many of us don't use the Ace 2 for 3D gaming anyway, so a lack of apps on SailfishOS is negligible! :good:
Any response from developers?
Well, i do not know how it's done, but cm 10.1.x is quite slower, than 10.2's, so wouldn't be lost what is gained?
Only the kernel from CM 10.1 is used for drivers purposes. Anything else is just pure Sailfish, and it should be A LOT MORE FLUID AND FAST than any Android version.
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Only the kernel from CM 10.1 is used for drivers purposes. Anything else is just pure Sailfish, and it should be A LOT MORE FLUID AND FAST than any Android version.
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...if you say so..ok, thx for clarification. but you know , that newer kernels(10.2 minimum) are main source of speed of actual roms? Even not roms itself, you know..
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...if you say so..ok, thx for clarification. but you know , that newer kernels(10.2 minimum) are main source of speed of actual roms? Even not roms itself, you know..
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I dont think that kernel in CM 10.1 is a lot different than kernel from CM 11. We must ask @Rox, but I think that backporting some features from CM11's kernel wont be too hard. Lets hope so
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I dont think that kernel in CM 10.1 is a lot different than kernel from CM 11. We must ask @Rox, but I think that backporting some features from CM11's kernel wont be too hard. Lets hope so
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...well, optimist, good luck..
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...well, optimist, good luck..
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I think they are a realist myself, as this is an old, yet highly dev supported, phone, and due to it's rubbish GPU, will highly benefit from SailfishOS, as 3D games are useless on this device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/hakd-release-1-0-t2820012
Also, this.
Supposedly most android apps should be compatible too so this should be a fun experience
No one is interested in porting it?
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As far ad I know, android apps work only on the original jolla phone. Porting does not support them yet.
Source: a friend of mine installed it on the nexus 4
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Hi don't get me wrong IS looks great but don't know about devs.. To be honest here is lack of drugs and I think that for android L wait more people than for this.... On the other hand would be use full to contact someone from other teams that have recently ported the latest versions to ace2 if they don't plan to do it again... But this is not you have asked for.... I know. But the community for android is bigger sorry for that and clean one runs the smoothest yeah not clean but with lot of use full features like from carbon.... But if there is a def that likes this more than android l... Would be happy to try also this out.... But have to pedal for community too to consider the total demand over local projects
just my guess, android 5.0 needs updated binary whilst the sailfish need only binary up to cm 10.1
so there will be a bit performance gap because of driver needed
but well that was just a wild guess :cyclops::cyclops::cyclops:
I know LG has confirmed Lollipop next year for the G2 but is it possible for Lollipop to be ported from another device? (Like the Nexus 5)
Or do we have to wait for LG to release some sort of source/kernal?
Just wondering
The G3 will get it by the end of this year, most likely we'll get a port from that
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The G3 will get it by the end of this year, most likely we'll get a port from that
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That's still running LG UI though. Could stock Lollipop be ported earlier?
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That's still running LG UI though. Could stock Lollipop be ported earlier?
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Ofcourse.itll be out in a few days.aosp source code is out
Screenshot of LG G3 running lollipop
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Ofcourse.itll be out in a few days.aosp source code is out
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You sure about that? I mean I'm no code builder but I figured that would take a while, thatd be great if your right tho.
I'd definitely consider going AOSP Lollipop as its aesthetically pleasing. Never really liked AOSP Kitkat
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I'd definitely consider going AOSP Lollipop as its aesthetically pleasing. Never really liked AOSP Kitkat
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My Shield Tablet is getting the Lollipop update this month, so it would be cool to keep the UI standardized between my G2 and that. A CM12 version of Lollipop would be nice, but I want a straight up AOSP version so bad! Nvidia's barely touched version of Android is way nicer after I rooted it and installed xposed compared to CM11. Perfection on the G2 would be if LG releases Lollipop for the G2 and someone did something like the de-Sensed ROM's on the HTC phones. Strip off the LG UI and keep the it pure Android, but with all the LG stuff under the hood so we still have good camera performance and less issues.
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My Shield Tablet is getting the Lollipop update this month, so it would be cool to keep the UI standardized between my G2 and that. A CM12 version of Lollipop would be nice, but I want a straight up AOSP version so bad! Nvidia's barely touched version of Android is way nicer after I rooted it and installed xposed compared to CM11. Perfection on the G2 would be if LG releases Lollipop for the G2 and someone did something like the de-Sensed ROM's on the HTC phones. Strip off the LG UI and keep the it pure Android, but with all the LG stuff under the hood so we still have good camera performance and less issues.
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With multitasking and being able to rearrange/hide nav bar ??
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S3 Mini just got a L port... I'm sure we'll have something soon.
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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My nexus 4 have prepared already few version of Lollipop but my G2 still on 4.4.2. Devs, please port Lollipop for us.
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Does anybody know a few Devs who's maybe can try to work on a port?
I'd be happy to help with the testing. I WANT LOLLIPOP ON MY D802 SO MUCH!!
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I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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Early reports on Nexus 7 suggest that boot times and overall performance have greatly increased.
LG G2
antoyn said:
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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Early reports on Nexus 7 suggest that boot times and overall performance have greatly increased.
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I've used Lollipop on my Nexus 5 since the first dev preview was released. ART results in a long first boot because it is compiling the runtime cache for each app. Every boot after that should be the same or better as Dalvik used to be. It is the same as it was on KitKat, with LRX21M the N5 boots in about 3-5 seconds. 5.0 gives crazy performance improvements, especially on older devices like the Nexus 10 (KitKat performance was okay at best). It will definitely be worth it.
Question is, how possible is it? I sold the G2 in April because of all the kernel issues and loki patches LG made. How unlocked is this device at this point? For me, AOSP ROMs had issues galore(GPS, freezing, etc.) because of the lack of source, and certain radios had loki patches in them(ZVA,ZVC etc.). Even ROMs were dropping support for the G2 due to kernel issues. Remember that the stock Google kernel CANNOT obtain root on Lollipop, a custom kernel is required, preferably with SELinux set to permissive. On Nexus that has been achieved because of the unlocked bootloader allowing for the flashing of .imgs. If the kernel needs to be in-line with LG source + bootloader, I highly doubt that root would be easy to obtain...
Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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I've used Lollipop on my Nexus 5 since the first dev preview was released. ART results in a long first boot because it is compiling the runtime cache for each app. Every boot after that should be the same or better as Dalvik used to be. It is the same as it was on KitKat, with LRX21M the N5 boots in about 3-5 seconds. 5.0 gives crazy performance improvements, especially on older devices like the Nexus 10 (KitKat performance was okay at best). It will definitely be worth it.
Question is, how possible is it? I sold the G2 in April because of all the kernel issues and loki patches LG made. How unlocked is this device at this point? For me, AOSP ROMs had issues galore(GPS, freezing, etc.) because of the lack of source, and certain radios had loki patches in them(ZVA,ZVC etc.). Even ROMs were dropping support for the G2 due to kernel issues. Remember that the stock Google kernel CANNOT obtain root on Lollipop, a custom kernel is required, preferably with SELinux set to permissive. On Nexus that has been achieved because of the unlocked bootloader allowing for the flashing of .imgs. If the kernel needs to be in-line with LG source + bootloader, I highly doubt that root would be easy to obtain...
Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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Nicely said. I don't have an option, though. Meh.
I think we should see how the G3 goes with rooting when Lollipop hits.
Yeah, that's been my experience while looking for stable custom Roms. It appears, g2 is best used as stock or sold (although I have the highest regard for all the devs who worked countless hours to bring us all the custom goodness on g2). But it appears most devs are moving to other platforms starting 5.0. I hate stock OS so much that selling the device looks to be my next best option, but there's just no clear winner\awesome device to push me over the edge (thanks google for ur 6 inch monster - now even the nexus is out).
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Nicely said. I don't have an option, though. Meh.
I think we should see how the G3 goes with rooting when Lollipop hits.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
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Yeah, that's been my experience while looking for stable custom Roms. It appears, g2 is best used as stock or sold (although I have the highest regard for all the devs who worked countless hours to bring us all the custom goodness on g2). But it appears most devs are moving to other platforms starting 5.0. I hate stock OS so much that selling the device looks to be my next best option, but there's just no clear winner\awesome device to push me over the edge (thanks google for ur 6 inch monster - now even the nexus is out).
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Again...no answer.
I havent seen a single developer depart recently for 5.0 besides madhi i believe, though i wouldn't be surprised if he was working on some kind of port!
QUOTE=Koopa777;56618788]Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?[/QUOTE]
We have some core developers like @dorimanx and all the other cool cats who maintain huge multiplatform roms. I'm going to attempt porting lolli to the g2 right now. The repository is syncing, i have lg kitkat source and @dr87 has sources for porting roms within kitkat.
I can extrapolate and figure out how to rebase it on 5.0, but many developers will do so before me. Things arent that bad really for the G2, id say they are WAY better than they were 6 months ago.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
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Yeah, uh. It appears the second half of my post was cut out.
I'll just retype it here:
It's very possible. People can do what Cyanogen did with CM11. It's not very unlocked, really. Nothing has really changed since Loki was released. AOSP ROMs have been better recently, but the camera is pretty bad.
Everything is exploitable. Perhaps they'll figure out how to get out of the sandbox. Just look at iOS, for example.
Now, since since Lollipop kernel sources will likely be open, people can probably create a flashable zip of a Lollipop OTA and remove that part of the kernel that prevents rooting. People can always use the flash tool tip restore to an older version and then use AutoRec.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
Again...no answer.
I havent seen a single developer depart recently for 5.0 besides madhi i believe, though i wouldn't be surprised if he was working on some kind of port!
QUOTE=Koopa777;56618788]Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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We have some core developers like @dorimanx and all the other cool cats who maintain huge multiplatform roms. I'm going to attempt porting lolli to the g2 right now. The repository is syncing, i have lg kitkat source and @dr87 has sources for porting roms within kitkat.
I can extrapolate and figure out how to rebase it on 5.0, but many developers will do so before me. Things arent that bad really for the G2, id say they are WAY better than they were 6 months ago.[/QUOTE]
The LG G3 Lollipop ROM got leaked today. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lollipop-lg-g3-leak/ Is it possible to use ButtyG3 as a base to bring in Lollipop?
I got a Project Tango tablet from work, it has k1 tegra chipset and it is stuck on original firmware, which is android 4.4.4 and doesnt performs very well on normal tasks as far as it is very powerfull hardware. Any chance I can upgrade it with custom firmware? Maybe shield tablet which has similar hardware without the special sensors?
Last time I had the tango (back in July 2016) there were no custom firmware/rom for it. I would check out the Tango Devs group on G+ to see if anyone has created an update for it.
Any news about this? Any help would be much appreciated.
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First off you are going to need root the device. Then a custom recovery. Then you can think of customs ROMS if you can work out the hardware and the appropriate drivers.
Just because it has the same processor as the Shield does not mean that all the other hardware is the same.
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First off you are going to need root the device. Then a custom recovery. Then you can think of customs ROMS if you can work out the hardware and the appropriate drivers.
Just because it has the same processor as the Shield does not mean that all the other hardware is the same.
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Thanks, the process is crystal clear, I just wanted to know if anybody already advanced anything in this device, but it feels as there is no progress at all, so It will be worth to sell this nearly new tablet and buy another device with more community working with it. A shame, with 128Gb emmc, 4Gb RAM and a powerfull processor...
It would be great if we could get any assistance from Google on this, I highly am doubtful they will release kernels but it is worth trying to petition them to release them, or anything of value towards this, to the community. The hardware is excellent on the tango Dev tablet, but at this point the software is absimal, and, as is, barely functions. I find most software cannot run and constant glitches make using it worse than a contemporary generic device despite an excellent touchscreen and the tegra processor.
I have rooted my Tango tablet, but what hopes do we have of a community rom running any newer version of Android? (5.1+) The shield tablet has similar hardware and could maybe be used as a base to develop from, as the basic kernel will be similar. anyone determine what wifi/Bluetooth hardware is on board the tango?
Come on Google, help us get full functionality and release the kernels!
Is there any one behind this project?
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It would be great if we could get any assistance from Google on this, I highly am doubtful they will release kernels but it is worth trying to petition them to release them, or anything of value towards this, to the community. The hardware is excellent on the tango Dev tablet, but at this point the software is absimal, and, as is, barely functions. I find most software cannot run and constant glitches make using it worse than a contemporary generic device despite an excellent touchscreen and the tegra processor.
I have rooted my Tango tablet, but what hopes do we have of a community rom running any newer version of Android? (5.1+) The shield tablet has similar hardware and could maybe be used as a base to develop from, as the basic kernel will be similar. anyone determine what wifi/Bluetooth hardware is on board the tango?
Come on Google, help us get full functionality and release the kernels!
Is there any one behind this project?
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if you want the development of the kernel at least started, make the kernel start logs. use the program syslog from Google Play for example.
I completely forgot that I found and downloaded the source code of the kernel on this tablet. The kernel is there version 3.10.24. With a strong desire, it could easily be adapted to the modern kernel 3.10.96.
I have the possibility of getting this tablet sub $100 and would be extremely interested if a newer Android could be loaded here. Or even maybe something like UBports (formerly Ubuntu Touch)
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I completely forgot that I found and downloaded the source code of the kernel on this tablet. The kernel is there version 3.10.24. With a strong desire, it could easily be adapted to the modern kernel 3.10.96.
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I can't find this source anywhere, could you upload a copy? I know a few people, myself included are looking for it. Someone else who is looking https://plus.google.com/u/1/+GregWillardr3pwn/posts/V1K5XDBtKig
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I can't find this source anywhere, could you upload a copy? I know a few people, myself included are looking for it. Someone else who is looking https://plus.google.com/u/1/+GregWillardr3pwn/posts/V1K5XDBtKig
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They have been with me for so long that I don’t remember exactly where I downloaded them from. I remember that it was some kind of official site about the project of tango.
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They have been with me for so long that I don’t remember exactly where I downloaded them from. I remember that it was some kind of official site about the project of tango.
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So you don't know exactly if these were the most recent version of the source?
If these are not the latest, it's better than nothing. I'm going to share these with that other guy and on reddit. Thank you for uploading these.
For anyone following this, the latest kernel appears to be here https://github.com/r3pwn/android_kernel_google_yellowstone
Hi guys, orginal Android 4.4 is still the latest Rom available, correct ?
HI.. I need the ROM stock for this device, Someone?
Hi again.. I found this on github, someone know something about this project?
NVIDIA AOSP device tree for building Project Tango Android 7.0
https://github.com/Project-Google-Tango/android_device_google_yellowstone
Anonikat I looked at that too. How great would that be? A 7.0 N even if I'd loose some Tango functionality. I'd just like it as a regular tablet, personally.
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I have the possibility of getting this tablet sub $100 and would be extremely interested if a newer Android could be loaded here. Or even maybe something like UBports (formerly Ubuntu Touch)
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Closest I've seen so far that seems functional for the most part is LineageOS 15.1 (Android 8.1) that's listed as an unofficial release in this forum.
Here is TWRP recovery project for this device https://forum.xda-developers.com/sh...overy-project-tango-k1-atap-twrp-3-2-t3901519