Hi everybody!
As the title implies, i'm looking for advice on low-end android devices.
EDIT:
decided to exclude the LG optimus one (3MP camera kills it for me), and the Galaxy Ace (278Mo of ram as opposed to 512mo on the Wildfire S)
But here come new challengers, as i've read marvelous comment on them:
The Motorola Defy, and the ZTE Blade S/Orange San Francisco II.
EDIT: removed the ZTE Blade S (hard to get and no support for adobe flash)
Added the Acer Liquid Metal (cheaper than i expected!)
After quite a lot of research, including here at XDA, it came down to those 3 devices, in that order:
1)Motorola Defy
2)HTC Wildfire S
3)Acer Liquid Metal
All three have:
- 512mo of ram,
- a 800+mhz CPU (well, actually, the Wildfire S has a 600mhz cpu, but it seems to be on-par with other 800mhz proc, performance-wise),
- Gingerbread
- a 5MP camera,
which are all important to me.
Oh, and i'd like the mobile to be able to turn into a wifi hotspot, i know the wildfire s does, but i guess all 3 mobiles do?
*Ideally, it should be a device i can reliably find around 200$ or less online or in brick and mortar stores.
I'm looking for the budget device that can be the (combination of) best/fastest/most stable with Root/kernels/roms/OC and the such, as this is what i'm willing to do. (plus, it's quite fun)
I'm not looking for the absolute fastest/most powerful, but rather more for the phone that benefits the most from a stable, bug-free rom.
*I already have a HTC Wildfire S, but after many, many, many tries, i didn't manage to root it.
(I'm stuck with a 0.9 HBoot that prevents me from getting the root, from what i have gathered, a problem on some HTC Wildfire S devices. Guess i'm just unlucky )
However, i guess i could find a store that could XTC Clip it for me.
(XTC clip works with ANY HTC wildfire S with a 100% success rate, right?)
Or maybe sell it, and buy another, already-rooted, one.
And it seems a rooted HTC Wildfire S could go a long way as far as getting a good device goes.
(Given the info on Cyanogenmod's site, the S can't benefit from Cyanogenmod 7 while the classical wildfire can. The other two can)
*EDIT:
after some research, regarding flash support:
- Defy and Liquid Metal both support full adoble flash
- Wildfire S supports only flashlite
Looks like the skyfire browser can help with flash support to some extent, but i must confess i really like Opera mobile.
Oh, and i'm perfectly aware that a phone around that price won't skyrocket to SII or Iphone 4 levels of performance, but that's not what i'm looking for.
Thanks a lot for your answers!
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Hi everybody!
As the title implies, i'm looking for advice on low-end android devices.
After quite a lot of research, including here at XDA, it came down to those 3 devices:
*HTC Wildfire S
*Samsung Galaxy Ace
*LG Optimus One
Ideally, it should be a device i can reliably find at 150$ or less online.
I'm definitely looking at the budget device that can be the (combination of) best/fastest/most stable with Root/kernels/roms/OC and the such, as this is what i'm willing to do. (plus, it's quite fun)
I'm not looking for the absolute fastest/most powerful, but rather more for the phone that benefits the most from a stable rom.
*I benefited from a good offer for a HTC Wildfire S, but after many, many, many tries, i didn't manage to root it.
(I'm stuck with a 0.9 HBoot that prevents me from getting the root, from what i have gathered, a problem on some HTC Wildfire S devices. Guess i'm just unlucky )
However, i guess i could find a store that could XTC Clip it for me.
(XTC clip works with ANY HTC wildfire S, right?)
(I live near Ottawa, Canada, and i'm pretty new there, so if you're willing to share a good store's adress regarding XTC Clip, i'd be grateful)
Or maybe sell it, and buy another, already-rooted, one.
And, apparently, a rooted HTC Wildfire S could go a long way as far as getting a good device goes.
(Given the info on Cyanogenmod's site, the S can't benefit from Cyanogenmod 7 while the classical wildfire can? Am i right on this?)
*Samsung galaxy ace is pretty hard to get at 150$ apparently (it's more like 200$), and i like the fact that the Wildfire S comes with more ram. Maybe it's irrelevant?
*As far as the LG Optimus goes, i've read very mixed reviews. Some claim it is a best budget phone, others tell you not to buy it at all.
Would that phone really benefit from rooting as far as performance goes? Is it easy?
I've also read great things about Huawei Ideos, ZTE Blade and Acer Liquidmini, but those are fairly hard to come by used and unlocked, as compared to the 3 phones above.
I could however use some feedback on them, or others i might have missed for that matter (easy to hack? really benefit from being hacked?)
Oh, and i'm perfectly aware that a phone around that price won't skyrocket to SII or Iphone 4 levels of performance, but that's not what i'm looking for.
Thanks a lot for your answers!
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Suggestion...
If you are in the silicon valley (i know its a long shot...WWW is a global phenomenon ;-) I would check out some meetups and try to find one that is giving away free device to developers that attend those meetups...I can say that I have received around 3 brand new devices and they are worked out great for development purposes... plus you will save money!
I would go with the LG if I'm not mistaken it already has a almost fully functional CM9 only camera doesn't work i think.
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I'm not sure about Canada, but in the US you can find high end phones (Galaxy S2) for under $200 (with contract agreement) at authorized dealer locations such as Best Buy.
use craigslist or kijiji and get an lg optimus 2x. Good battery life, excellent camera and dual core 1ghz, plus it has HUGE rom dev and ics :-D. U can get one for around $100.
Hi guys!
Thanks a lot for the answers!
@Leo.o: a trip to Silicone valley would cost me a lot more than 150$.
@Nerot: interesting, i'll check that, even if the camera not working is kind of a big letdown.
@Towle: i'm already under contract agreement (that's how i got the HTC Wildfire S i didn't manage to root)
@Icenight89: I'll check that phone, thanks for the suggestion. Edit: checked, and the phone is more around 250$+ for an unlocked one.
Sidenote:
All in all, is it worth the trouble to root my current HTC Wildfire S?
Would it be a very good phone once rooted?
Also, is XTC Clip garantueed a 100% success rate, as i didn't manage to unlock the bootlader using the tools at HTC dev?
I apparently found a shop in Ottawa that could do it for 30$, but i don't want to waste those 30$ for it not to work.
Edit: i've also read great things about the Motorola Defy, anyone got feedback on it?
(not that i really care about the "indestructible" aspect, but if the phone can be greatly optimized and last a few years, spec-wise, the fact that it's highly resistant is a plus)
I have a Samsung galaxy gio, and my mom has the ace. They are both great phones, but i like the gio much better. Its just an awesome phone for the price. My sister has an HTC wildfire s, and i personally HATE it. It has almost no room to install apps, and i find it impossible to type on it. It doesnt seem to be able to keep up with me.
@AlwaysDroid: the galaxy Gio is really light, spec-wise, in my opinion.
But feedback is always appreciated, so thanks a lot!
Went with further research, and decided to eliminate the LG optimus one (3MP camera kills it for me), and the Samsung Galaxy Ace (278mo of Ram kills it for me, i must confess i love having 512mo of Ram).
So, now the competitors are: HTC Wildfire S, Motorola Defy+, and, the ZTE Blade S/Orange San Francisco II.
I'll edit the first post.
Eliminated the ZTE Blade S (hard to get and doesn't support flash)
Added the Acer Liquid Metal (cheaper than i expected!)
Edited the 1st post.
Still looking for advice/feedback, thanks a lot guys!
well...did u choosed anything ???
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How's lg in general? How's the customer service? And software support? And how's the hackbility? I'm recommending my friend to get optimus 2x when it came out but I at least to know these things.
It's my first LG and Android phone, but I was very surprised with it. So far I've heard only bad things about LG phones, but this one definitely changed my perspective. It's quick, responsive even on stock ROM (sooo much of a difference between WM and Android). Except the sometimes-annoying SD Card-reboot bug it is hell of a good device.. I hope they will upgrade it to Gingerbread
same here!
Honestly, I kinda feel the phone (P500) was rushed. Other than that, everything feels the way it's supposed to be (even better) for a budget phone.
LG in general:
I still can't say much about it, since this is my first Android / LG phone. When I get Gingerbread, maybe I can say some stuff.
Also, you have to note that even if a company has good software support, especially with the firmwares, it's always the flagship phones that get most of the attention. Sometimes the others just...get forgotten.
This is just my opinion from my experience with my older phone Promised an update, never got them.
I picked up an Optimus T in Seattle for $150.00 US used (like new condition) and moving from a MT3G Fender to this was like night and day. I paid the same for the MyTouch and the Optimus has a much better CPU/GPU, build quality, feels nice in the hand, better dimensions (thinner, yet same size screen and larger battery), nice screen for its size, etc.
I've taken the time to root, install custom ROM(JoeMom ROM) and overclock from 600MHz to 724MHz and everything seems fine.
If I had one gripe it would be the plastic that is used on the screen and the 'rubber-ish' non slip coating on the phone. It is much "softer" than the MT3G. My first day I put a "ding" in the non-slip coat near the top and a very fine scratch on the screen. I know there are screen protectors and cases but it was in the first 4 hours that this happened and I am not rough on my gadgets. If you plan on picking up one of these "value" devices I would suggest a case and screen protector at time of purchase.
LG's support site and forum are strait forward. It's easy to find the USB Windows drivers for those who need it. They seem to be ahead on the communication bit saying they're going for Gingerbread on the Optimus line. Most manufacturers are playing the silent treatment on which of their already released devices are going to be upgraded.
I once wrote an e-mail to the customer support. One week later I got a reply (cited from memory): "Dear Mr. [correct name], Due to technical problems, we were not able to read your e-mail. Please write again if you have some time to spare." Would you trust an IT company that either can't get its contact forms right or that doesn't want to reply to customer queries?
Very good until now. I do own several LG products and all of them are working very well. At least here, they also have a "help-line telephone service" for some products to help on "how to" do something (washing machine).
The Optimus One is my first LG brand and seems very good. It feels solid and not "cheap". Working very well.
It is an awesome phone.
Reasons:
1) I checked sony experia mini running on 2.1... Total waste of money..
2) rightly bundled specs..
and many more.....
Only missing thing (As per my need)
front facing camera for video calls.
Divr said:
How's lg in general? How's the customer service? And software support? And how's the hackbility? I'm recommending my friend to get optimus 2x when it came out but I at least to know these things.
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Dude Honestly plz dont go for it instead u can go for any HTC android or nokia c7 coz the reasons are here
1) No flash 10.1 support though it states on phone pack that it has 10.1 flash support so LG is not honest in this the reason is the processor Arm V6 as flash adobe doesnt support ARMv6 processors but LG created a deception
2) I rooted my LG phone and phone went dead within 3weeks so i got a replacement though but after waiting 5 long days and fighting with LG area manager about this
3) everything else is good but not excellent
Divr said:
How's lg in general? How's the customer service? And software support? And how's the hackbility? I'm recommending my friend to get optimus 2x when it came out but I at least to know these things.
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LG O1 was my first LG Android fone ... got fed up wid my iphone 2g's pathetic battery and nokia 5800xm's general useability .. The points I am mentioning is wrt to O1 (bought in India):
1. Build quality : Good (better than what I was hoping for)
2. Retail Box and accessories: Sufficient (except for the user manual which was pathetic)
3. Customer Service: Surprisingly prompt (but to be honest, I just had a question if my fone came with insurance as there was something mentioned in the retail package)
4. Overall: Better than what I have hoped for from LG as their mobiles fones have never been upto the mark
LG is generally ok for the most part. This is my first smartphone and the only problems I had with the O1 are those that i created on my own (trying to apps2sd on a slow memory card and panic-resetting which broke a few features). The LG service center was able to fix my phone after a week. Had to go back there multiple times though.
After installing the void ROM and custom recovery, I haven't had problems since. Battery gets me through most of my day with some gaming and music (I always bring my charger though...)
I'll have to test its bluetooth compatibility with a new headset since my old Nokia BH-104 doesnt work with it (even though they say it can...)
I guess the only we don't know yet is how competent they are with updates and bugs. But build quality is great! And the tweaks to android are minimal. Closest to stock experience I would say
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just dont post negative as u end up bricking your phone due to some reason
As for me i would rate it 3.5/5 obviously we cant compare it with higher end phones but a phone in that budget is just excellent. NOKIA sucks with symbian.
phone make 4/5
resloution 3.5/5 (at this moment lot to come in future)
tweaking 4.5/5 (huge cappabilities)
official gingerbread support (on its way) whereas mik's rom rock still
good customer support,prompt service
great gaming capabilities (except few game dont run-playing angry birds,nfs shift,pes 2011 ,dark ninza,home run battle 3d-3d gaming supoort is good)
very much customizeble.
ALL IN ALL EXCELLENT IN THE BUDGET CRITERIA
P500 is a great phone for the price. I had owned a HTC TyTn II and been using Wm6.5 and Android 2.3 on it.
LG customer care replied the day after i emailed them, and called me the next day. SO i geuss customer support is decent.
I hv used (not owned) HTC Wildfire, Samsung Galaxy Fit and Pop and Ace and Galaxy 3 before, they were all not worth the price. whats the use of a higher resolution camera when the device screen itself is such a low resolution? QVGA on a 3.2" screen is not pretty. (except Samsung Galaxy Ace which is same resolution as 01 if im not mistaken) Galaxy 3 with 667 mhz cpu was not able to run angry birds properly. its very smooth on 01 void #echo rom.
Only things im missing in 01 is a LED flash, dedicated camera button and trackball, better camera would have been a plus.
But i dont regret buying it, and i can laugh at my friends 20k+ Nokia phones.
Life's Good
It's a good phone if you don't have the SD unmount bug or you can fix it. I wouldn't recommend it unless there is a recent firmware in your country that fixes the issue (there isn't in mine), or you are willing to take all the steps to install a custom rom that fixes the issue. This was the only way I could fix the issue in my phone, because LG customer service said the phone was OK and didn't solve anything.
As many comments above, Optimus One was my first smart phone.
I have some hands-on experience with these droid, such as Desire HD, Galaxy Ace, X10, X8, Wildfire, X10 Mini. Well, with my experience on them and comparing them to my phone, i this the O1 is the best of the range. Some claims that Galaxy Ace is better for now but i still think O1 is better, as it is more capable to customize it.
O1 is great for everything except for the part that it doesnt have a camera flash. I really really wish i have one on mine phone, but who cares about that? I seldom use a camera flash as a flash light, but more as a torch light. XD
Talking bout LG, they have a great customer service. I had emailed to them before, and their reply were really quick! While Sony doesn't reply me at all...
i agrree O1 is more customizable than Galaxy Ace, community support is also better. I chose to buy the 01 and didnt have any regrets till now, and gingerbread is coming soon.
and i never had the SD unmount problem from the start even while i was using stock rom
anyways, this is my first LG phone, but its great
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i agrree O1 is more customizable than Galaxy Ace, community support is also better. I chose to buy the 01 and didnt have any regrets till now, and gingerbread is coming soon.
and i never had the SD unmount problem from the start even while i was using stock rom
anyways, this is my first LG phone, but its great
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Exactly what i was thinking. And regarding the SD unmount problem,it doesnt happen on mine too, maybe i was using a correct card =/
i think optimus one is one of the best midrange devices available.its well worth the price.the 1500MAh battery that it carries is one of the biggest in android phones.
specs wise it can be compared to galaxy ace but O1 is a lot cheaper.and its 512 mb ram is a huge +point. Lg has promised a gingerbread update on it. on the other hand ,there's no word from samsung abt updating the ace to gingerbread. they havent even provided the froyo update for most of its eclair phones except the galaxy s and the galaxy 3.so u cant trust samsung abt updating the devices .
Ordered Lg Optimus One (P500) yesterday on letsbuy.com for 8712 Rupees (LOWEST COST of this phone in India i believe).!!
Waiting for it to arrive ..
Hello everybody!
I currently own a Samsung Galaxy Europa (I5500) which is on 2.3.7 Cyanogenmod 7.1, I like my phone but I want something a bit bigger with a better processor and camera etc so i have a few questions for anybody willing to reply, first of all I will let you know what I want in a phone and you can tell me if this phone is right for me then I'll get down to the questions.
I want a phone that runs fast and smoothly, loads up social networking applications fast, good for texting, fairly good camera, a good battery life to last a full day at college (Heavy texting, few phone calls, facebook browsing and checking emails once or twice) and easy access to emails- that pretty much sums up what i want.
Now my questions (All of these are related to STOCK roms, no custom ones- I want this phone to be my little stock phone which i will take good care off, i use my G5 for flashing etc)
Does this phone run smoothly?
Does this phone have an OFFICIAL 2.3 Gingerbread update via Samsung KIES?
Has it got a good battery life? (How long does a full charge last?)
Is there any word on an Ice Cream Sandwich update for SGA?
That's about it, please take the time out to reply to me, i'd appreciate it!
Thank you,
Curtis.
I find its ARM-11 processor somehow slow. However, the camera and screen for its money are brilliant.
YES, IT HAS GOT STOCK GINGERBREAD UPDATE. Its behaviour is smooth, but with rough edges. Battery life isn't as good it could be.
My tip - Xperia ray. It has got the best screen I've ever seen on an sub-300EUR Android device. It has got a better processor and it's nice to hold in hand too.
Depends on your budget, SGA is kinda "best buy" device in it's price segment, but as I can see you can get a quite nice deals on SGS and SGS2, so I would go for those.
Go for the LG Optimus series .
Otherwise the Xperia Play or Arc can be a good choice .
You could also try the Samsung Galaxy S+
If not , try the HTC EVO 3D or the Sensation
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I like my Ace, but i'm not sure if i would recommend to someone at this time.
I guess there are better phones (higher res, faster CPU, more internel memory) for a price that is not that much higher than the ACE's.
I want a phone under £200, i managed to find a SGA on my favourite PAYG network for only £145!
Than choose between SGA and SE x10.
Isn't the SE X10 the tiny phone with a even tinier qwerty keyboard?
Nope, that's X10 mini and Mini Pro, I'm thinking about full X10:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2964&idPhone2=3724
(X10 has bigger display, better camera 8Mpx, 1Gb internal memory+8Gb card+384MbRAM, and it's also upgradable to Gingerbread)
Holy sh*t, how much is that in the UK?!
Hmm...try something like this>
http://www.ebay.co.uk/ctg/Sony-Eric...3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A5251&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
(I'm not so much into ebay auctions, but I think you can find some good deals)
I don't like buying second-hand or from eBay, i prefer to buy from a store like Phones 4 U, Carphone Warehouse or Three, neither of them stores sell the normal X10
Have you checked your network provider deals, per example my wife got SG Tab and IP4 for 70 euros (two year contract with Orange De).
I only buy phones on Pay As You Go, as I am in college, I haven't got a steady flow of income so i don't want a contract in case i can't afford to pay it one month
Hey, i just found a brand new Galaxy S2 (Pay as you Go contract), just save some more money>
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-G...58729?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1c1ffd0089
Thank you for all your help, I can't afford that at this moment in time though, i'll just keep my money and put it all together at Christmas and get myself something then, i can get a HTC HD7 for £170 from my local CEX (unlocked) so i may get that.
I really don't want to start a WP7 trolling topic, but, if you want an open platform, isn't it too strange to consider HD7 as an alternative? Of course, Metro is great and everything works just so smooth, but it's not that open..
For the money i bought my Ace, it was the Motorola Defy. Now i'm thinking why i didn't choose the motorola. It has a processor seemed to the ace one, at 800 Mhz; it has more RAM(512MB); It's super ressistant. And it support flash player native.
In Sweden the price for SGS and SGA are almost the same, so i'd rather go for SGS(no led for the camera though). And as dami391 said Motorola Defy, the phone is "better" (specwise) and cost about the same.
It's kinda hard to recommend SGA now that there are better phones around the same price.
But I'd say that I'm very happy with my purchase of SGA.
As the guy above me said, now you´ve got a lot more than we had when we bought our beloved SGA.
I would recommend the SGA for you if its price is affordable for your incomes. Id say that is the best phone I ever tried but this thought just came only when I installed a new rom and rooted it, if you are not planning install new roms I definetely would say dont try the touchwiz interface and the stock rom that comes with the Ace. It sucks.
im thinking about buying this phone, i dont want to spend alot of money on smartphone and the atrix is pretty cheap for what he gives.
the motorola atrix worth buying?
he have any common problems?
thanks
Mine was pretty cheap, I got it for my birthday in october. I love it. The only common problem would be random reboots/sleep of deaths. There have been some "fixes" that work for people if you look around, but there are a fair amount of users who have had random reboot issues or sleep of death issues, including me. But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
atrix 4g
For a cheap phone it is really good. My only complaint is the 5mp camera. To get its full potential you have to unlock the bootloader, root and install a custom rom. All the info can be found in the development section of this forum. Turls team cm7 is rock steady. I have just updated to jokersax11's cm9 and now the phone is awesome, the only thing missing is the camera does not work in this rom.
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Were having alpha ver. of IceCream Sandwich (CM9) ... there are better phones around atm but if you think Atrix fits you then I would say its not a bad choice.
You can still buy it because it is very nice.
I bought my atrix 2 weeks ago in germany and i can't complain. Ok actually the atrix wasn't my first choice but the price of the nexus s become very high in germany so i decided to get the atrix.
And it is still a very fast phone with a nice battery and the most important fact for me is that it only has a 4" display because I have small hands and a bigger display would be to big for me.
I am happy and i saved more than 100€ compared to other high end phones like the galaxy s II or galaxy nexus.
I vote to Buy.
If you plan on modding I'm sure your are.. Your here after all. I would buy one for 250 or less. I really like mine. There are so many roms to try now. It seems even though some phones are better this phone is really well supported by a big community. Breathing more life into a phone and taking it beyound its time. Im using the SuperOSr Rom and I really enjoy it tried maybe 6 or so others.
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Forgot to say the atrix has been a really reliable phone considering the amount if soft bricked it doing software flashes unsafely. I didn't know any better at the time. Not buggy like all my blackberries Ive had.
I think it is worth buying this phone, it's a lot cheaper then say a galaxy s2 and the galaxy is just a tad more powerfull, also there are some great custom roms and even a few (I think 3) ICS roms on the way!
Dont buy the atrix, buy a sensation a sgs2 or a o2x.
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Lol o2x is almost the same but less ram no webtop no finger print scanner and costs more.
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I am thinking about buying an Atrix and would like some input too.
Requirements are:
1. 4" Screen
2. Good battery life
3. ATT 3G Bands
4. Less that $400 on unlocked market
The phones I considered were the SE Arc, LG Optimus 2X, and Atrix 4G. Yes, I would love to own a Galaxy or Nexus phone but it is outside my price range. The Optimus 2X fell out because I cannot get it in ATT USA bands. So its the Arc vs the Atrix. Or did I miss another option?
yes - no problems
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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How about the Atrix vs Nexus S?
Nexus S pluses: AMOLED, Better Camera, Better Battery life, NFC, Offical upgrade to ICS
Atrix pluses: Expandable Memory, HDMI, Faster CPU, FP Reader, 3.5G
Tough call.
You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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I can't blame you either. I have always been a Motorola fan from the ROKR (not RAZR) line (anyone remember the Apple collaboration with Moto?) and I owned an E2. But I think it is poor on Motorola's part that the Defy is stuck on Froyo, while the pratically identical Defy+ got Gingerbread on launch. Motorola seems to be keeping certain brands going (Milestone/Droid, Defy, Atrix) so the should keep them updated as far as they can physically go.
Battery and ICS might sway me into getting the Nexus S but I do love the more powerful Atrix.
It's a great phone but the camera really kills it, other than that it's awesome.
I personally love my Atrix. The camera is a slight bit disappointing but it definitely makes it up with versatility and functionality. Just my opinion
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i choosed phone for about 1 year. because haven't more money, but i want a "power" phone, which can work for about 4 years without problem with hardware. i bought Atrix 4g. this is my first android phone, but it really nice for this price.
In the end of 2011 year i choose between atrix 4g, Defy+ and nexus prime. but nexus prime have bigger display, it is thinner than atrix, but have big price.
Defy+ is wonderfull, water resist, dust resist and any more... but haven't dual core, and only 512 ram.
resume (for me):
if i have more money i bought nexus prime, but i think that ideal phone can not cost more than $ 400 must have the hardware with a view of the future (1 year minimum). Should work just fine navigating large maps (map RUSSIA really great, and requires a lot of memory the laying of complex routes). Should be easily unlockable and be able to flash the android ICS (СM9 in my case). gave me a chance to practice in programming for Android.
Atrix gives me all these opportunities. Overclocking the CPU to 1.5GHz making foundation for the future, the performance he ahead of SGS2 and is not as great. Support for memory cards - I have no problems with the backup, you can always place another increase.
so that at the moment, I suggest taking Atrix 4g. But the choice is always yours.
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[...] But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
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Wow! How can you fix your SoD problem in Atrix?
I tested a lot of radios, kernels and roms without sucess. Can you tell me?
Thanks
Other than having a slight less capable camera, I love the Atrix!
Something to also note (that I love) is that it has a qHD resolution 4" display, which means it's pixel density is much higher than most of the other Android phones.
KangPolice said:
never heard of SOD on atrix how are you getting one ... what are you using ?
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Do a little xda or google search to find a lot of SoD desperated users.
It's impossible to know what app (or kernel or rom etc) is the root cause, because many ones has many different configuration, use many differents apps etc.
My problem is more related to Data Connection, even 3G or Wifi. Every time I turn off a data connection my device get's SoD.
At now I'm testing LoadMonitor app as a SoD avoid app, and it make me happy. Let's do another test before advice them to other ones.
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Hi, I have dilemma, the time has come to buy new smartphone
I know this question was considered many times but let me describe my point of view.
My adventure with smartphones started with Nokia N82 and now I have HTC Desire Z. I was really happy having Desire Z and HTC made a real impression on me. Now I am considering to buy HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2. I really liked dev support for HTC and Cyanogenmod ROM and also other ones. I didn't use stock ROM. I am reading about many positives for SGS2 like display, camera, RAM and cons like Touchwiz, display resolution.
I would prefer to choose HTC maybe beacuse I know their product, I didn't have any samsung before.
My preferences:
For me the most important is performence, customization possibilities and dev support. I don't care about outside but only what is inside. I like sometimes to grab a picture or record a movie. For sure I am using the phone for multimedia: playing, web browsing and waching films. It would be nice if some newer games could be played smoothly. And I was really impressed by HTC custom ROMs (especially CM7).
Could you give me any view for situation repsecting my preferences? I wouldn't like to miss HTC and would like to have sure I will be satisifed if choose SGS2 (it said better performance/hardware).
I hope you understand my uncertainties.
Sebalos said:
Hi, I have dilemma, the time has come to buy new smartphone
I know this question was considered many times but let me describe my point of view.
My adventure with smartphones started with Nokia N82 and now I have HTC Desire Z. I was really happy having Desire Z and HTC made a real impression on me. Now I am considering to buy HTC Sensation or Galaxy S2. I really liked dev support for HTC and Cyanogenmod ROM and also other ones. I didn't use stock ROM. I am reading about many positives for SGS2 like display, camera, RAM and cons like Touchwiz, display resolution.
I would prefer to choose HTC maybe beacuse I know their product, I didn't have any samsung before.
My preferences:
For me the most important is performence, customization possibilities and dev support. I don't care about outside but only what is inside. I like sometimes to grab a picture or record a movie. For sure I am using the phone for multimedia: playing, web browsing and waching films. It would be nice if some newer games could be played smoothly. And I was really impressed by HTC custom ROMs (especially CM7).
Could you give me any view for situation repsecting my preferences? I wouldn't like to miss HTC and would like to have sure I will be satisifed if choose SGS2 (it said better performance/hardware).
I hope you understand my uncertainties.
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I have got the SGS2 and will be going for a HTC or Nexus next time as the devs seen to have more freedom with htc and definlty Nexus. Also if rumors are true then smartphone compinies like samsung, sony e.t.c are going to be making their phones harder to root and more closed except for googles own phone range.
Thanks for your reply. Can you tell me what is your feeling and comments about SGS2? Did you have before any HTC smarthphone?
It is a powerful phone, but no more powerful than the HTC sensation XE. The s2 fells like it could break at any moment, it would be broken by now if my wife owned it. The camera is ok, their are a lot of custom roms for the galaxy s2 as it is a popular phone, although. I do like my phone, but next time try nexus. I have has a HTC desire before and they are very solid phones.
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Hmmm to be honest, both Sensation and Sensation XE have the same type of processor and also the same amount of RAM, the only difference which I have noticed in specs is clock value 1.2 MHz and 1.5 MHz but 1.2 can be overclocked to 1.5 MHz. In that case SGS2 is winning by 1GB RAM. Hmmm hard choice.
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For SGS2 in comparision to HTC Sensation I get known:
- SGS2 salmoled display better than LCD but worse resolution
- SGS2 1 GB RAM, for HTC left 200MB RAM free on stock ROM
- SGS2 pretty nice photos, better than for HTC
- SGS2 better movie recording
- SGS2 better movies playing
- SGS2 faster GPS sattelites localization
- SGS2 10 multitouch counted, HTC only 4
- SGS2 worse built than HTC (personally prefer HTC onecast built)
- HTC "death grip" issue
- personal - no experience with samsung products
- personal - fall in love with HTC - THE MAIN REASON OF PROBLEM TO MAKE CHOICE
I've used a Sensation and quite honestly prefer the S2. Not sure what more can be done to this phone than whats out there already, runs fast, battery lasts long, has a nice camera, has a great screen. I used to have a HD2 and I loved it (And also thought nothing could beat HTC phones) theres nothing wrong with the sensation but the S2 tops so many top 10 lists and for good reason. The CM range is nice but my S2 is pretty much perfect without it so I have no strong urgency to run it
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I've used a Sensation and quite honestly prefer the S2. Not sure what more can be done to this phone than whats out there already, runs fast, battery lasts long, has a nice camera, has a great screen. I used to have a HD2 and I loved it (And also thought nothing could beat HTC phones) theres nothing wrong with the sensation but the S2 tops so many top 10 lists and for good reason. The CM range is nice but my S2 is pretty much perfect without it so I have no strong urgency to run it
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It seems you know my dilemma It is pretty convincing in case as you'r writing you also had HTC phones, I am getting more for S2
My wife has sensation.I have SGS2.
HTC wins in raw resolution, but the s2 screen is truly gorgeous. The s2 also has far better camera and is much much slicker (faster) on the ui..
the screen is the MOST used part of the phone
so choose between best colors vs best resolution
I prefer the S2. Makes all other screens seem ancient
Tomorrow I have to decide in case I am going for new phone but I've already made decision thanks to your comments, thanks. S2 won.
If you are going to go for a custom rom then you will free up most of the Ram for the HTC, as sense is the ram killer. How about going for the HTC phone and then induldge in a Samsung Galaxy Tab, or go for a the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
The case that I am going to extend standing charge in Tmobile and they have special offer galaxy s2 or htc sensation for 0.25 E , there are some more phones but these ones are the best ones.
Was in the same dilemma. Decided on S2. Screen and better mic is why it won out. Only thing I will miss from a HTC phone is Sense. Which as above uses ram but personally I like the UI.
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Tomorrow I have to decide in case I am going for new phone but I've already made decision thanks to your comments, thanks. S2 won.
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welcome in our club
If you buy S2 I suggest to use custom luncher like go luncher ex
because touchwiz is a bit too stock by means of customization.
and for sms -> handsend sms
all the other stock bits are very good, you may never bother with custom roms
(in the first months at least)
since we are XDAers not just stock phone users, how is dev support for the Sensation compared to the SGS2? I imagine its easier to develop drivers for the Sensation even though the SGS2 is more popular overall in sales figures...
dmo580 said:
since we are XDAers not just stock phone users, how is dev support for the Sensation compared to the SGS2? I imagine its easier to develop drivers for the Sensation even though the SGS2 is more popular overall in sales figures...
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Actually I'm not stock user but as well custom Roms, now I have Desire Z and I really apreciate all devs support and it is also for me one of the key points.
That's why I'm also asking whether support for Sgs2 is as well developed as for sensation?
I think the dev support here is fine, have no idea what the sensation section is like. But as I said before, what things can't we do with our phone due to lack of dev support? Only things I can think of are source drivers for things like ICS but tbh I wouldn't buy a phone just because it can run an update possibly 2-3 weeks early. On the whole, to me anyways the SGS2 is simply the better phone overall hence why I chose it.
Good answer thanks I am already convinced about SGS2. I was going to get it today but there was no black one in the store, only white Tomorrow I will have my SGS2
htc wont be getting that much dev support since they lock bootloaders
gs2 or galaxy nexus would be the best option for you
you can check the development section
we have cm7, cm9 , miui ggbread, miui ics, B2geeko and many others project
I know this has probably been posted before, but anyone got suggestions for a good cheap android? I am new to this whole android OS thing, I have a webos phone (pixi) so I am looking to upgrade. Nothing too expensive though. I have looked into the att avail, but it seems as a prepaid only phone. I have att (without a data plan). and I will be using the android os for wifi
I have also looked at the samsung galaxy y but it seems too cheap.
Any suggestions I am looking for a phone that would work on att, and that I could find on amazon for around $150.
Any sugestions?
Galaxy gio , Galaxy ace, HTC wildfire?
Perhaps Xperia mini would fit the bill? I was considering Galaxy Ace but ended up paying exactly the same for mini which is clearly a superior device. It is perfectly capable of running ICS which is a big plus for me. Official update should be released in April/May and some custom ROMs are already available.
Some people have reported overheating issues (soft keys acting strangely) but I haven't had such problems.
Overall, I'm fairly happy with it, and to me it seems like the best choice for the money.
P.S. Live with Walkman is essentially the same device. You get a slightly larger (but worse) display, a secondary camera and longer battery life. Price tag should be the same so I'd say it's a matter of preference.
The Pantech Burst is so underrated that you can find one for that price (in my area I saw 3 between $180 and $125), works on At&t and has a Snapdragon dual-core 1.5ghz CPU, 4" Super Amoled display and a solid if plain design.
You could look into the Meizu MX.