If, or shall I say, WHEN we get 2.3 on our Vibrant's, we do NOT update if we are rooted and running a custom ROM, right? Thanks guys,
IF it rolls out, we will have our hands on it before OTA is a thought. You would just get a custom rom and flash it, or at least that is what I do. Others may prefer to do completely stock. Lots of options, but then again, we are talking about the future.
I have an opinion question
These are my wants
I want the ability to disable Sense UI should I get tired of it.
I want to be able to use wireless tethering
I want to stay mostly stock otherwise and maintain absolute stability
I'm not new to flashing I have an at*t captivate that I've flashed hundreds of times
but this device just doesn't seem to need it as badly.
My main question is this, based on the current root method is their a possibility of the upcoming gingerbread update killing the root method? and bootloader unlock. I'm somewhat inclined to wait until gingerbread comes out before rooting the phone since it's coming soon, but I don't want to wait to long and lose the ability to root / install custom roms if I want.
do it and get it over with...there's no downside. everything you want can be attained with root..
when gingerbread comes ota it will be available for root users the same day anyhow.
movielover76 said:
I have an opinion question
These are my wants
I want the ability to disable Sense UI should I get tired of it.
I want to be able to use wireless tethering
I want to stay mostly stock otherwise and maintain absolute stability
I'm not new to flashing I have an at*t captivate that I've flashed hundreds of times
but this device just doesn't seem to need it as badly.
My main question is this, based on the current root method is their a possibility of the upcoming gingerbread update killing the root method? and bootloader unlock. I'm somewhat inclined to wait until gingerbread comes out before rooting the phone since it's coming soon, but I don't want to wait to long and lose the ability to root / install custom roms if I want.
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I'd say go ahead and root. The biggest benefit to me is uninstalling Verizon's bloatware. Plus, CM7 will be rolling out for the TB eventually. In the meantime, Das Bamf can fill in; there's a de-Sense script if you get tired of Sense. Anyways, I don't think the GB update will really make a huge difference; at least not if it's masked by Sense anyway. (Sorry, my bias against the HTC "People" app is shining through —the number one thing I have against Sense.)
+1 for root now
Sent from my Perfect Storm 1.2 Tbolt
"People" app is the worst but google gesture search has eliminated my need for it. at least i never have to see it now.
Rooted
Don't know why I even asked lol
I knew I'd do it eventually , rooted and installed the basic debloat rom
phone almost feels lighter, and I'm conforted seeing clockwork recovery flash a rom
lol
def root!
i see you've already done the deed, but most likely tbolt gingerbread will be available here for rooted users before it goes ota
If you root using the Permroot Bootloader guide in the development thread can you then use the unroot guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
to remove the permRoot? Just curious because I am going was thinking of Perm rooting a coworkers phone but since it is a business paid phone I need to be able to unroot it if it ever had to be sent in for repair or an upgrade.
I rooted my phone for the first time and i saw an immediate increase in battery life when using the undervolted kernels so
+1 for rooting.
Hello everyone, I'm trying to do a buddy of mine a favor by upgrading his Vibrant to something a lot better (he's on stock) but I'm a bit unclear on a few things. First of all let me get out of the way that I'm a Fascinate (Verizon) owner that recently modded my own phone to run AOKP ICS Milestone 6 with great results, so I figured since he pretty much had the exact same phone I could do it for him. The problem I'm running into is the procedure I used to flash my phone doesn't seem to apply to the Vibrant (or at least what I was searching for) so I just wanted to clear up a few steps before I try to flash his phone.
He's not a very tech savvy guy, so he won't be updating ROMs on the bleeding edge or anything, he just wants his phone to run better so I figure ICZen is the way to go right, considering it's based off of what I'm using now (AOKP M6)? Everything needs to work, so that pretty much rules out any JB right now because of the GPS issues. Okay now onto the specific flashing questions:
1) This thread seems to be the go to thread for flashing the Vibrant, but it hasn't been updated since Dec '11, so would I just follow the same procedure for the newer ICS roms?
2) Here is the guide I used for my Fascinate (see section 4), which has a few extra steps that I notice are lacking for the Vibrant... namely installing cwm4 fixed for cm7 first, then installing THS Build 2, then flash over that with whatever ICS Rom you need.
3) Devil Kernel is what's considered best on my phone running AOKP M6... is that true as well for ICZen?
4) Since the Vibrant never got 2.3, what is the best modem to be using? On the Fascinate the EH03 (GB) stock modem is best, but I'm unsure what the deal is for the Vibrant since they never got an official GB update. Also along the same topic, Verizon has a code you can input that updates your PRL and improves reception... does T-Mobile have such a code or not?
I appreciate any and all input, as I want this to go as smoothly as possible. Thanks
You seem to have a pretty good grasp on what your doing.
From stock, install gingerbread bootloaders then go to recovery via volume rocker down and hold power button, until the logo. Might have to practice it a couple times.
Once in recovery click reinstall packages, might have to do it s couple of times. This installs your update.zip
From here I always perform wipes and flash a custom Froyo ROM. Maybe overkill but, only takes a second and I don't mind.
From here I flashed the latest CM9 nightly and on to Helly Bean.
Do your wipes in between flashes, and you should be fine.
I haven't ever heard about a T-Mobile code for tower updates, I think its automatic.
Well I didn't have to worry about bootloaders on my Fascinate since I was already on GB, so that's a bit new to me... but doing a quick google search I found this guide. Is that an accurate guide to follow? Alright so basically what you're saying is before I root at all I need to do this?
Also like I was saying earlier, he wants everything to work so I think Helly Bean is out of the question because of GPS, right? I was thinking ICZen looks the cleanest, with everything working nicely, and it's based on what I'm currently using on mine.
Can you clarify on why you're flashing a custom froyo rom? I won't mind to do that either, if it has any benefit.
Also, I checked his phone last night and it's on stock 2.2, not 2.1 if that makes any sort of difference. Thanks again
First root and get cwm recovery then flash bootloaders. The vibe never got an official GB, so that's why boot loaders are recommended. The guide you have is fine. Second the GPS on the vibrant has been notoriously hit or miss. I have a captivate, the GPS works great but my vibe couldn't get a lock to save my life.
Now as far as iczen or hellybean, you have to weigh the options:
Iczen is a great ROM and might have a better chance getting a GPS lock. IMO if you can get a lock with ICS you will probably get a lock with JB. But with ICS you have to be concerned with the EU bug. What's that you ask:
There has been an issue with people randomly looking at phone and a message saying encryption unsuccessful press to reset. If you press the button you have basically just locked up your internal SD card. If you don't press you MIGHT be able to recover it. There is a workaround if this happens, to use ext SD only but your friend will not like that.
I'm currently running hellybean on both of my devices and I love it. Like I said, cappy gps works great and my vibrant not so much. If you really want stable go with bionix as toast recommended or one of moped Ryder's ROMs . If you want to be wowed, go with hellybean.
There are some things you can try with it to get a GPS lock. The general consensus is turn on GPS, reboot, wait it out till you get an initial lock. After that locks will be quicker. I hope this helped in some way, if so hit thanks. As far as the guides etc you are good to go.
its peanut butter jelly(bean) time
That did help quite a bit, thank you. I have never even heard of that bug, do you know if that's Vibrant specific or can that happen on any of the others? I have been wanting to try Helly Bean on my Fascinate, but unfortunately my sdcard isn't very stable and I don't trust to flash anything until I can buy a new one. Honestly, I don't even think he cares much about the GPS, my original point was more along the lines of that I wanted to give him as much of a glitch-free experience as possible, so my fault for not being more specific. If Helly Bean is as stable as you're saying, then maybe I'll just do that instead then, especially after you explained that glitch. Also, since I don't have any Helly Bean experience myself, does it offer as much customization as AOKP? I've grown quite fond of all the little tweaks they include
Hellybean is pretty stable. When I did my vibrant I didn't have to use a boot loader I went straight to ICS then jellybean. If you want ICS then you may want to try aokp for his vibe its nice. If you end up trying aokp milestone 6 and have unknown baseband let me know and I'll link you to a linario build that should fix that
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I have a complete guide to install ICS ROMs in my signature if you feel so inclined. PM me if you need any of the files or I may just host them on my Dev-Host account. I'll be out most of the day, but I can upload them later on tonight.
When I need to go back to stock and root and flash cwm I use the AIO toolbox. I just put the rom on the internal flash and then use AIO to get cwm on it from the flash custom rom option. Then cancel the file and the phone will reboot into recovery where you install packages twice and should end up in cwm.
The EU bug has hit vibrant and captivates that I know of. It seems rare though, if you think about the number of users compared to the reported number of cases of the EU bug, its a small percentage.Hellybean doesn't have nearly as much customization but it does offer theming and some launcher/lock screen tweaks. You could always use a custom launcher. There are a few other jellybean ROMs you could try. Honestly any way you go will be better than stock!
*I forgot to tell you, you will need to Odin back to stock 2.1!
its peanut butter jelly(bean) time
Yeah.. I don't think root is actually necessary to do any of this. You'll be rooted when the process is complete however. The custom ROMs come with root access.
But to elaborate on Samsgun357's last post, if you are currently on Froyo 2.2 stock, you'll need to Odin back to stock 2.1 prior to starting, because Samsung fixed the bug that allows installation of custom recovery when they released 2.2
It's simple to do, search the forums and you'll find a guide on Odining back to JFD. That's stock Eclair. If I have time in a few I'll locate it for you and post it.
There are YouTube videos about it with links to the files as well. I think djeddie1west posted a good one with links to all files needed, if they are still working links.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
There's the link for installing GB bootloader.
Also, I am on my phone and haven't tested links, but as long as they work, near the bottom of the post you'll find the files needed to Odin the JFD files.
Eh, I just gave up and told him to go get an iPhone instead, to increase his hipster status.
Or... that's right, I'd rather be dead than own one of those ugly bricks.
You have all been extremely helpful, and I think I have more than enough to go on. I think for now I'll just throw ICZen on his phone since it's based on the rom I'm most familiar with... and when I have more experience with Helly Bean (I finally ordered a new sdcard that's on the way, so I can play with it on my own phone soon enough :good I'll just flash his again. He'll be okay with the risks mentioned so far in this post, and honestly his upgrade is coming up soon so I'm sure I'll be drooling over his S3 when that time comes.
@Woodrube That guide you made to install ICS was exactly what I was looking for, and I wish I had found it earlier so thank you for making such an excellent post.
I'll post back here with the results, thanks for all the help once again
Hey guys,
Thought upgrade to ICS, and have some thoughts. I have modded quite a lot on the phone (rooted, kernels, cpu scripts / hacks, etc.) and believe that all these made my phone unstable and sluggish.
What would be the easiest way for me to upgrade to ICS via OTA, and do a full factory reset on the phone? I sit on 651.73.30.XT910.Retail.en.EU 2.3.5.
Is there a universal flash you can use in order to get the phone to default?
I found a few threads that could help me but I am still a noob with Android, and am not sure if they are safe for me.
I am extremely grateful for any response, Thanks in advance
My build is 6.5.1-73_SPU-11-M1-2, if that would ease your process of helping me.
Could I not just restore the phone to original settings and get ICS over OTA?
I noticed that many threads similar to mine show up here, but hopefully I can get a helping hand here and I will do my best to help Anyone with a similar question.
From what I know, you cannot receive OTA updates to the same OS you are on, no matter the version. I personally would look over all your hacks and tweaks and try to figure out what is making the device unstable... Other than that, all that comes to mind is fastbooting to Gingerbread and trying to get to ICS via OTA that way. I've never done this and know little about it, however. I wouldn't recommend it unless it becomes necessity.
Hopefully that helps somehow...
I guys, I'm an occasional lurker that has a question for all you people that may be able to help. I have a Sprint Evo 4g LTE that has never been flashed and has only had stock updates up until this point. Personally, I liked ICS more and thought it acted faster. I attempted to flash it with a stock ics (the newest ics firmware) and the utility indicated that it was mismatched. I thought I'd ask here before I went on so I don't brick the phone. What I'm wondering is what does it take to get it back to the stock ICS? If I have to go through all the s-off and maybe some hboot stuff, is there a popular ICS firmware that I should use and skip the official?
I read a few results from my searches but I found a lot of questions that included their phone already being rooted and such. I don't really care about the rootage...just looking to get back to ICS.
Thanks in advance.
The only way for you is to root/unlock your phone and flash an ICS rom like mean rom ics which was packed with a lot of features, debloated, great battery life, etc... If you try to RUU back to ICS you might end up with a brick, I advise you against that, be careful and look for bigdaddy619 root guide and if you want the full experience get your phone s-off, of you only do the unlock thru htc dev you will have to flash the rom in a special way because the kernel/boot.img has to be flashed separately, anyways mean rom has this baked in so after you unlock/root and/or get s-off head to the original development thread and look for mean rom ics... Remember that before you do anything you will need to backup your personal stuff because the first step (htcdev.com unlock) deletes everything... Good luck!
Flowed from an Evilutioned Evo LTE