Can not turn on while charging? - HTC Amaze 4G

I noticed that I can not seem to turn the phone on while it is charging. I usually need to pull the usb plug out of the phone, push the power button to turn it on and then plug the usb back in for charging. Is this by design? If so, not quite sure why...
My other android phones never had this issue.
Also, please correct me if am wrong on this one as well. The USB port for Amaze is a standard micro USB. But for some reason usb side (male) of the charger that comes with the phone has a slightly different shape than regular micro USB plugs - so I can not use the same charger with my other devices that have micro USB (e.g. Sony reader, other phones). Yet a standard/traditional micro USB cables can be easily plugged in the Amaze. Again not sure why HTC decided to go with such design.
It almost feels that maybe I am missing on some "bigger picture" that gives a perfect logical explanation to these two observations...

lk757 said:
I noticed that I can not seem to turn the phone on while it is charging. I usually need to pull the usb plug out of the phone, push the power button to turn it on and then plug the usb back in for charging. Is this by design? If so, not quite sure why...
My other android phones never had this issue.
Also, please correct me if am wrong on this one as well. The USB port for Amaze is a standard micro USB. But for some reason usb side (male) of the charger that comes with the phone has a slightly different shape than regular micro USB plugs - so I can not use the same charger with my other devices that have micro USB (e.g. Sony reader, other phones). Yet a standard/traditional micro USB cables can be easily plugged in the Amaze. Again not sure why HTC decided to go with such design.
It almost feels that maybe I am missing on some "bigger picture" that gives a perfect logical explanation to these two observations...
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I'm pretty sure the connector is an HDMI connector so you can connect it to a TV etc. But for why it won't start unless you unplug it beats me...maybe you're just not holding it long enough?

Thanks for clarifying about the port being also an HDMI. I totally missed it. Quite frankly, I did not even realise that micro HDMI and micro USB ports could be combined like that in one. This totally explains my second observation.
As far as not turning on while charging, I tried it many times including holding the power button for a few seconds but it does not come on unless I unplug. Normally when you turn it on there is a slight delay between the press and white "HTC" screen coming on. So maybe I am not waiting long enough and press again and it resets the "power on" command. Not sure...
Anyway, thanks for the info.

Mine turns on when I plug it in from an off state. I confirmed it last night right after my battery died.
Also the USB port is a 12pin. You will need a mHL adaptor to get the HDMI capabilities to work. You can check the Accessories Section.

You should look at your phone while its charging, it goes into recovery to charge but the backlight and colors stay off you can only see the text if your in direct sunlight that's why when you push the power button your basically pressing reboot system now (1st option) in clock work mod so in order to not get that while trying to turn it on while its charging well you have to take out the plug and the click the 1st option
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Ah ha! That is great info. I will check it out. Thanks for everybody replies.

Also, I believe some ROMs have issues with turning on while charging. I forget which ones or if I am thinking of something totally different.

I just noticed the same thing the last couple times my phone died, just figured it had something to do with the ROM or recovery.

misfit61871 said:
I just noticed the same thing the last couple times my phone died, just figured it had something to do with the ROM or recovery.
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Your recovery has almost everything to do with off charging
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lk757 said:
I noticed that I can not seem to turn the phone on while it is charging. I usually need to pull the usb plug out of the phone, push the power button to turn it on and then plug the usb back in for charging. Is this by design? If so, not quite sure why...
My other android phones never had this issue.
Also, please correct me if am wrong on this one as well. The USB port for Amaze is a standard micro USB. But for some reason usb side (male) of the charger that comes with the phone has a slightly different shape than regular micro USB plugs - so I can not use the same charger with my other devices that have micro USB (e.g. Sony reader, other phones). Yet a standard/traditional micro USB cables can be easily plugged in the Amaze. Again not sure why HTC decided to go with such design.
It almost feels that maybe I am missing on some "bigger picture" that gives a perfect logical explanation to these two observations...
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Which recovery are you using. That is most likely the culprit for u not being able to turn it on
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USB not charging

Plugged my usb cord into my computer and it says to be plug into ac adapter cause usb is not sufficient enough to charge. It shows that it's charging but when I lock the screen and didn't even touch it with usb connected to the computer my battery just dies and its set to charge only.
Sound like your computer's USB port is screwed up and is not outputting enough current to charge the device.
If you have a powered USB hub handy, plug it into that, or try another USB port on your computer.
I'll see if that works just weird though since I was using the same port for my previous 3 phones and they would charge pretty fast but not this time.
whats odd is my gf just texted me and said that her cable isnt charging her phone at all. i'm going to have to go pick up her charger and stuff and test/return it.
Prob , you don't have the driver's installed .
My battery reading is really inconsistent was charger on a outlet said 28% rebooted then said 78% rebooted a couple of mins later and now it says 60%
superevo89 said:
I'll see if that works just weird though since I was using the same port for my previous 3 phones and they would charge pretty fast but not this time.
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This particular phone may need the entire 500mA of current that USB ports are supposed to capable of supplying. The error on the computer may be because when the phone connects, and tells the computer that it wants 500mA of current, one of three things happens:
1.) The computer says no and throws an error.
2.) The computer said yes, but when the phone actually tries to draw the current, the hardware of the computer can't provide it.
3.) The Amaze doesn't ask if it's okay to draw 500mA (to which the PC may respond no), and just starts drawing the current, causing a hardware fault on the computer.
Your previous phones may not have required as much current, therefore not causing any issues.
I don't know this for sure, but I've done some programming with USB drivers and I know that "handshake" when a device plugs in, does happen.
Happened to me to. Same thing with the notice to use wall charger. Dumb. All my other phones work with PC. Just not this one.
Just had this happen, except...
* I didn't get the "you should plug into a wall" message
* Using the USB of the computer seemed to *suck* power from the phone; anti-charging, if you will.
I've got a wallcharger on it now. Maybe tomorrow I'll try my USB3 port for it...
The USB3 didn't help...
what drivers do I need to install? My G2 charged just fine on this computer.
What I have going on now is an older USB "y" cable for an external hard drive; one side of the "y" is data + power, the other is just power. I've got the "just power" side of the "Y" plugged into a wall jack...charges fine now.
theGleep said:
* I didn't get the "you should plug into a wall" message
* Using the USB of the computer seemed to *suck* power from the phone; anti-charging, if you will.
I've got a wallcharger on it now. Maybe tomorrow I'll try my USB3 port for it...
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Trial and Error fixed it
theGleep said:
* I didn't get the "you should plug into a wall" message
* Using the USB of the computer seemed to *suck* power from the phone; anti-charging, if you will.
I've got a wallcharger on it now. Maybe tomorrow I'll try my USB3 port for it...
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Guys, i found the solution, by trial and error...
forget about USB 3.0, drivers, micro/mini USb, app tweaks, AC usb charger etc.... You know what turned out to be the culprit ??
THE CABLE !
I realized that this charging issue happened only when using the aftermarket cable i bought from ebay, as an extra one to have on hand. While the backup cable was also OEM. (i could tell from the corn-plastic bag it came in...)
And all along it has worked fine for data transfer, sync etc, and also when charging it does in fact say it's charging... - only thing in actual it's draining.
So i downloaded the 'battery monitor widget' and kept a close eye on the mA number as i tried out different combinations of cables, stock and aftermarket along with stock and aftermarket AC chargers i had and all USB ports on my laptop.
With the cable from ebay mA was rather in negative using with all power sources, including USB.
With the stock cable from the box, it was a steady +200 to +350 on USB power, +400 to +700 on AC power.
Now the after market cable is also OEM, but it appears to be for another HTC phone, that the HTC Amaze 4G doesn't accept.
Also if your AC charger is model TC E250 it's only gonna show up as USB and not AC in battery status.
You need AC charger model TC U250 for the HTC Amaze 4G to be fired up.
There! That was what was wrong.
Hope this helps.

[Q] MTP initialisation

when I plug my usb cord into my tab it pops up with MTP initialisation and my computer doesnt recognise the the tablet. also, it doesnt look like its charging either. the battery icon has a red x in it. ive tried different cables and have rebooted once.
Does anyone have any idea what I can do from here to get this thing rocking again?
thanks in advance for any help thrown my way!!!
EDIT: found my problem atleast for the red x...I assume I wasnt getting enough power off of my wall charger. Went back to the charger that my tab came with and it is a ok now. The MTP thing still has me puzzled. It seems to be fine now so I will be a happy camper!
Thanks XDA brothers and sisters!
Turn Debugging Mode off.
Super Jamie said:
Turn Debugging Mode off.
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dubugging is off...it seems to have quit showing intialising but the battery icon still has a red x in it and it doesnt seem to be charging. when I press the usb icon on the tablet it pops up saying usb connected and right under that it says MTP connected.
this battery thing is really starting to worry me...
thanks for all help I can get with this...
Your Tab is working completely and utterly normally!
MTP is the way Honeycomb works with USB-to-PC connections due to the way the storage system works in Honeycomb.
The simplest explanation (note the length!) is that instead of having "internal" storage and "external" storage (SD card), Honeycomb merges the two together so that you have one large unified storage system meaning that you have ALL of the available space for applications rather than, say, 1GB for apps but 32GB for media as an example.
MTP is the way to get round the fact that if you mount the storage as "Mass Storage" like with Gingerbread and below phones, then Honeycomb MUST un-mount the storage from the android operating system, which as you should hopefully expect, will cause ANY app reliant on this storage to crash or worse.
I appologise if you already knew all that and I misunderstood your question, but lots of people have asked the same question and I'm not convinced you even searched before asking, but I'm nice so offer explanations rather than "JFGI"
Right, that's MTP out of the way, now for the red cross:
This one is a lot simpler: the Tab requires a lot more current than a USB connector is really meant for (5A compared to ~2A) and this can overload some USB hubs. To prevent this happening, the Tab disables charging over USB from a computer (this is what the red cross means). The wall-socket that comes in the box has some circuitry that says "oh hi Mr. Tab, here's your full charge current"
There is a way round the charge-over-USB using Pershoot's kernel, I suggest you search the Android Development section for "charge over USB"
chaosdefinesorder said:
This one is a lot simpler: the Tab requires a lot more current than a USB connector is really meant for (5A compared to ~2A) and this can overload some USB hubs.
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The wall charger that comes with the tablet delivers 2A. Standardized USB offers 0.5A. Most of the standard USB plugs will deliver 1A but that is "outside" of the specification. Charging the tablet with 0.5A will take around 4 times longer than with 2A, meaning a full charge would take about 15 to 20 hours. So for most people that would be useless. Although I too would be grateful for the option at least, just in case I forget my samsung charger when on vacation.
Regards
Achim
general1977 said:
The wall charger that comes with the tablet delivers 2A. Standardized USB offers 0.5A. Most of the standard USB plugs will deliver 1A but that is "outside" of the specification. Charging the tablet with 0.5A will take around 4 times longer than with 2A, meaning a full charge would take about 15 to 20 hours. So for most people that would be useless. Although I too would be grateful for the option at least, just in case I forget my samsung charger when on vacation.
Regards
Achim
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thanks for the clarification, slight order of magnification out, but general gist was there!
when I plug my usb cord into my tab it pops up with MTP initialisation and my computer doesnt recognise the the tablet. also, it doesnt look like its charging either. the battery icon has a red x in it. ive tried different cables and have rebooted once.
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Follow this guide to enable USB charging to remove that red X
As for why its not recognizing, try installing the samsung drivers.

Absolutely no connection between my phone and any computer

So after breaking my original cable, I had it replaced by a regular universal cable that every other phone uses (the mini-usb or whatever) and, I can not get it to connect the two no matter what I do or what computer I use. I'm out of ideas and I don't know where I can get another stock cable. Any help?
It sounds like you just got a charging cable and not a data cable. You can't tell by looking but there is a difference. Plug in the cable and check the battery info. a data cable will show USB charging. You don't need an original cable, just make sure it is the data type.
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ο χάκερ said:
So after breaking my original cable, I had it replaced by a regular universal cable that every other phone uses (the mini-usb or whatever) and, I can not get it to connect the two no matter what I do or what computer I use. I'm out of ideas and I don't know where I can get another stock cable. Any help?
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maybe uninstalling & re-installing the drivers might help
qudwis said:
maybe uninstalling & re-installing the drivers might help
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I didn't know you could uninstall the drivers, and would love it if you could elaborate a little for me
b5fan said:
It sounds like you just got a charging cable and not a data cable. You can't tell by looking but there is a difference. Plug in the cable and check the battery info. a data cable will show USB charging. You don't need an original cable, just make sure it is the data type.
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It did show up as USB, but has never worked since I got my cables switched
ο χάκερ said:
I didn't know you could uninstall the drivers, and would love it if you could elaborate a little for me
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go to control panel then programs and features
find htc bmp usb driver, htc driver installer, and htc sync
uninstall those three.
go here and download htc sync 3.0 and install.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rezound-verizon/downloads/
As b5fan stated, the problem is the cable. Your new micro USB cable is a charging cable only. If you buy a data USB cable it will work. Doesn't have to be original.
Best Buy or Verizon are your best options.
qudwis said:
go to control panel then programs and features
find htc bmp usb driver, htc driver installer, and htc sync
uninstall those three.
go here and download htc sync 3.0 and install.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rezound-verizon/downloads/
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I will try that, thanks for the tip.
Dalamar1320 said:
As b5fan stated, the problem is the cable. Your new micro USB cable is a charging cable only. If you buy a data USB cable it will work. Doesn't have to be original.
Best Buy or Verizon are your best options.
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Only trouble is that I did exactly that. Went over to Verizon and bought a brand new cable. THAT'S when my phone was no longer visible to my computer, when I tried connection the new cable.
re-installation of the drivers did me no goo. MY phone just reboot itself to the recovery. wtf
so your saying when u plug in your phone and hit usb mass storage in the notification menu it doesn't come up?
well go to the recovery and see if usb mass storage in amonra works
yojoe600 said:
so your saying when u plug in your phone and hit usb mass storage in the notification menu it doesn't come up?
well go to the recovery and see if usb mass storage in amonra works
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If that doesn't work and your phone & computer are on the same wireless network search for software data cable in the play store. Download filezilla onto your computer and follow the directions in software data cable
Might be far fetched and blatently obvious, but had this happen to me...have you tried shutting down the computer, pull the power cable, press and hold the power button for 10-15 seconds to clear any juice in the power supply, plug power cable back in and start it back up.
Don't ask me how that works, or how I came across those steps, but worked for me so far everytime.
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yojoe600 said:
so your saying when u plug in your phone and hit usb mass storage in the notification menu it doesn't come up?
well go to the recovery and see if usb mass storage in amonra works
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I'm saying that neither my phone nor computer has any clue that anything is connected to it. No notifications from either side.
ο; χάκε;ρ;24572680 said:
I had it replaced by a regular universal cable that every other phone uses
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That's the problem right there. As two previous posters have stated, you cannot data connect between a computer and your Rezound with a generic Micro USB cable that other devices use. The Rezound (as well as other HTC phones, I think) has a proprietary data/charge cord. Did you notice the shape of the connecting hole on the left side of your phone? It's not a true Micro USB hole, is it? It's a special HTC hole. Granted, you can plug a generic micro USB cord in (in the upside down position) to charge your phone... I do this every morning. However, you need the special HTC cord to get it to connect data to your computer.
My beef is this: why did a Verizon Wireless employee sell you the wrong cord? Take it back and demand an exchange for a proper HTC cord. Have them look at the phone's manual if they need proof. And if the employee gives you any lip about "well, we don't carry that cord in store", then smack him (don't do it if it's a girl) and remind him of the wonders of US postal services and that he can order the dang part from the Verizon website and have it shipped.
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Deron Baker said:
That's the problem right there. As two previous posters have stated, you cannot data connect between a computer and your Rezound with a generic Micro USB cable that other devices use. The Rezound (as well as other HTC phones, I think) has a proprietary data/charge cord. Did you notice the shape of the connecting hole on the left side of your phone? It's not a true Micro USB hole, is it? It's a special HTC hole. Granted, you can plug a generic micro USB cord in (in the upside down position) to charge your phone... I do this every morning. However, you need the special HTC cord to get it to connect data to your computer.
My beef is this: why did a Verizon Wireless employee sell you the wrong cord? Take it back and demand an exchange for a proper HTC cord. Have them look at the phone's manual if they need proof. And if the employee gives you any lip about "well, we don't carry that cord in store", then smack him (don't do it if it's a girl) and remind him of the wonders of US postal services and that he can order the dang part from the Verizon website and have it shipped.
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This is incorrect. The port is shaped differently for the MHL adapter. Any MicroUSB cable should carry charge/data unless it specifically says charge only.
I've been using this cable for both charge/data since my Droid 2 since I like to have a really long cable.
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-6-Feet...I62Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334241291&sr=8-1
And this is why the port is shaped the way it is.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-HDM...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334241347&sr=1-5
I stand corrected. Thanks. Didn't realize this.
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No problem. Based on the OPs info and saying that he broke the original cable (not sure what/how) and it doesn't work in multiple computers. I would assume the worst and say that he may have broken the port on the phone. I've done this before. Left the phone charging overnight, knocked the phone off the table while I was sleeping, and picked it up in the morning.
The phone still charged (although you had to hold the cable at the right angle), but data was a no go. The OPs hit must've been a serious though because the USB port on the Rezound is pretty stout.
isdnmatt said:
No problem. Based on the OPs info and saying that he broke the original cable (not sure what/how) and it doesn't work in multiple computers. I would assume the worst and say that he may have broken the port on the phone. I've done this before. Left the phone charging overnight, knocked the phone off the table while I was sleeping, and picked it up in the morning.
The phone still charged (although you had to hold the cable at the right angle), but data was a no go. The OPs hit must've been a serious though because the USB port on the Rezound is pretty stout.
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Solid logic, but I actually broke the cable twice. The first time I pulled the metal piece out of the cord (which was just pushed back in, everything worked) but when it actually broke and was non-fixable the cable was simply pulled out of the phone and the cable came in two. Turns out a snug fit isn't so great after all. I don't know, mixed thoughts going through my head. And actually, I've been getting the computer hookup notification when I plug it into a socket. (Wallcharger, phone restarts quickly then the notification pops up and doesnt go away until it's unplugged and the notification is clicked on again)
Deron Baker said:
That's the problem right there. As two previous posters have stated, you cannot data connect between a computer and your Rezound with a generic Micro USB cable that other devices use. The Rezound (as well as other HTC phones, I think) has a proprietary data/charge cord. Did you notice the shape of the connecting hole on the left side of your phone? It's not a true Micro USB hole, is it? It's a special HTC hole. Granted, you can plug a generic micro USB cord in (in the upside down position) to charge your phone... I do this every morning. However, you need the special HTC cord to get it to connect data to your computer.
My beef is this: why did a Verizon Wireless employee sell you the wrong cord? Take it back and demand an exchange for a proper HTC cord. Have them look at the phone's manual if they need proof. And if the employee gives you any lip about "well, we don't carry that cord in store", then smack him (don't do it if it's a girl) and remind him of the wonders of US postal services and that he can order the dang part from the Verizon website and have it shipped.
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Funny thing is, I did this and they told me they only carried the one I have now. Dissapointed I left thinking "what the hell, how can you only carry this cable when there is a much different one coming with the phone, that you, Verizon, sold me?" but of course, I avoided an epidemic and am doing everything I can and using alternate methods for file transfer. Only thing is I can't run RUU's because I can't relock my bootloader.

Help: Only seeing "USB" when charging from wall chargers (multiple)

Does anyone know what might cause this? Is it a problem with my USB port? I noticed it with my home and my work wall chargers.
Before I call Verizon (whom it has been reported is out of Rezounds, and I'm unlocked/rooted), I was hoping for some advice.
Thanks.
An update -- now after I unplug it from an actual PC, sometimes the USB/Charge and USB Debugging symbols remain in the Notifications bar. Could that mean the pins on my actual microUSB port are defective? I've now tested with a 2.1A wall unit too, and every charger I've tried has been a new USB cord.
Oh and just to rule out software I tried in Safe Mode too, no help. Anyone have an idea aside from calling up Verizon (which I will do after my long weekend out of town)?
I've developed the same issue on both of mine I've had. My solution was to simply run a kernel with a Force AC Charge option built in. Have to be careful, however, as the option may cause excessive heating of the battery if you do any intense usage under charging status (playing a game, trying to run GPS navigation, etc.) It rarely poses an issue, but just a heads-up.
You should never use your phone while charging it alwYs turn it off and set it down. When you are charging ylur phone resistors and capacitors are heatingbup your phone now if you are on it talking on it basicly you are heating up the whole board and if it gets hit enough it will losen the solder from the joint and may cause a chip creep effect on the board causi ng varios problems that are very hard to troubleshoot
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USB cable
Gig103 said:
Does anyone know what might cause this? Is it a problem with my USB port? I noticed it with my home and my work wall chargers.
Before I call Verizon (whom it has been reported is out of Rezounds, and I'm unlocked/rooted), I was hoping for some advice.
Thanks.
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Try a different USB cable. I've had cables that would charge only, no data. Drove me nuts, I thought it was HTC drivers. Swapped cables fixed it.
The charger is presenting itself in a way that looks like USB. This is very common because iDevices will not charge at all unless the charger does this, so if a manufacturer wants to support iPhones/iPads, they make the charger in this way. Unfortunately, Android devices limit themselves to 500mA when the charger is made like this. Yes, many kernels have fast charge options that make the phone ignore this, but my advice is to get a charger made specifically for Android. Use the one that came in your HTC box as a wall charger if you can. Get the Verizon branded car charger...it charges Android devices correctly.
Yeah, there are many chargers that leave the USB contacts active. Thing is, I've had an HTC branded one that used to show AC at first turn USB on me... Everything else shows USB too unless I force AC in the kernel. Seems like some other condition, degradation or something.
Thanks for the responses so far. I have tried three different wall chargers, each with a different USB cable. Other phones show AC but not mine. At the moment, plugged into the HTC wall wart, I am being asked of I want "charge only" or "disk drive".
Could this be a software related issue? It was mentioned that some ROMS have a force - AC but I am on the newest non Global RUU, unlocked S On, and rooted with TWRP as recovery.
Bump -- is there any chance the RUU and then unlocking and putting TWRP on could cause this issue? Verizon is trying to get me to run a factory reset to "fix it".
Ugh.

Charging problem!!!! (FIXED)

I am having chatting issues. This just started happening when I woke up this morning. I forget if the micro USB is supposed to click when you plug it in the phone to start to charge. When I plug my phone in, I don't get any indication that the cable is locked in. Also if I move the cable ever so slightly. The phone will stop chatging. The USB cable feels like its gonna come out if I move the phone in any way.
I don't have any spare micro USB cable so I wanted to know if you guys are think this is a hardwarw problem or possibly if just the cable is messed up. Im hoping its the latter because I am not trying to replace my phone.
Also have any of you guys had this problem? Thanks
This isn't a question and answer forum.
Could be the cable. Different cables fit in differently. I personally use my kindle fire hd cable cuz it clicks in snugly with my htc charger.
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