[Q] Does moving apps to sd card affect their performance? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

So i have installed about 3 pages of apps, and i decided that it was a lot and i should move them to sd card. I used titanium backup and moved all my apps to my sd card. Rebooted. And these past couple of days I have noticed the following.
I had blue skies live wallpaper after i moved it to sd it would no longer be the wallpaper ater i rebooted my phone. I would manually have to set it over again. this kind of bugged me.
Draw something. Whenever i opened this app it would look like its about to open but then my screen would just go blank, and after a couple of seconds i would have to press the lock button and i would be at the launcher. (there was no force close dialog box)
Speed test- this app would just force close and there would be a dialog box.
So i reinstalled draw something and it seems to work fine now, and i think its because its not on the sd card.
Also the appbrain market just shows a grayed icon and when i click it it just says the application is not installed in your phone. It has sd written on the icon. But my other apps from the sd card are loaded why isnt this one?
My question is should or are there some apps that should/need to be left on the phone to work properly?

There are definitely some apps that should not go to the SD card. Widgets don't usually like getting moved there. I can imagine live wallpapers don't either. Draw Something, ink not sure about, but if you're having performance issues with it then try moving it back.
Apps on the sd card will be loaded last, so if you have them on your homescreen, you may notice the generic Android icon until the phone finishes losing after a reboot and the sd card has been scanned.
Generally, if the app is ok to move, it'll be available in settings-> applications-> manage applications-> sd card tab. Check off the box to move an app to the sd card.

Yeah I agree with this method, it's manual, and you have to do it one app at a time, but it's the safest way to put what can be put on your SD card. As for Draw Something, I just tried moving it to my SD card and it still worked. I did it via the method described here and not thru titanium backup.
I would imagine going through titanium backup moved the files but might not make the required links from the phone to the sd card, just a guess though (think shortcuts in windows).
lactardjosh said:
There are definitely some apps that should not go to the SD card. Widgets don't usually like getting moved there. I can imagine live wallpapers don't either. Draw Something, ink not sure about, but if you're having performance issues with it then try moving it back.
Apps on the sd card will be loaded last, so if you have them on your homescreen, you may notice the generic Android icon until the phone finishes losing after a reboot and the sd card has been scanned.
Generally, if the app is ok to move, it'll be available in settings-> applications-> manage applications-> sd card tab. Check off the box to move an app to the sd card.
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Oh okay thanks for the replies guys. Ill try removing the apps from my sd card and trying again with the method above.

Depending on what class your SD card is and what app is on it could affect performance.
Class number = MB/s
So a class 2 sd card would be rated at 2 MB/s, and so on and so forth.

zer0nine said:
Depending on what class your SD card is and what app is on it could affect performance.
Class number = MB/s
So a class 2 sd card would be rated at 2 MB/s, and so on and so forth.
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Speed of the card is also a good point.

Related

How do I actually use my micro SD card?

Okay, first of all, I have done a lot of search on this topic over various forums and google. Some topic pops up occasionally, but never got answered, strange...
Basically I am trying to figure out two things:
1. How to move apps to microSD card? Not a single definitive answer or tutorial would allow me to move apps to external SD card. I've tried app2sd, link2sd also the stock CM7 application manager, which all of them would only allow to move apps to internal storage of the phone which is called SD card for Galaxy SII. Also the microsd card is under the diretory of mnt/emmc. Some other tutorials suggesting moving game data over /sdcard/external_sd/, I tried as well, but my microSD's storage doens't go down so I assume the data is still on internal SD card.
2. How to enable apps to save user data automatically on micro sd card? For example, I have lots of camera apps, which automatically save photos that I took on /sdcard/DCIM, I want them to be on my micro SD card AUTOMATICALLY, is there a way of doing this?
Many thanks, oh btw, I am using cyanogenmod 7 on Galaxy SII
I cannot see much reason to move apps to external sd card with a sgs2, that is something for inferior phones , there is a lot of space on application storage and internal sd card for that.
Most people are fine by just moving media files to the external card.
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how about my second question, i shot a lot of photos and hd videos daily, i know i can manully move them to external, but that Kinda make my gallery look clustered if you know what i mean.
Have you tried doin it internally via your phone:settings-applications-running services.On the top left touch on "downloaded" and all your downloaded apps will appear.Touch on whatever app you like and you will get the option to move,uninstall or clear data.Remember that not all downloaded apps are able to be moved to external sd and if the app you would like to move is unmovable by default then you will see that.
The problem is Android only likes one sd card. So when you have an internal SD card like the sg2 the system doesn't take advantage of your external sd card.
imolared333 said:
how about my second question, i shot a lot of photos and hd videos daily, i know i can manully move them to external, but that Kinda make my gallery look clustered if you know what i mean.
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You can change storage area in camera settings (with stock camera app).

Problem with App to SD (2.3.4)

I've never had problems with moving apps back and forth from my phone's internal storage to the SD card. But recently, I've noticed that apps I used to be able to store externally (Shazam, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) have the "move to SD" option greyed out, making it impossible to move them off my phone. I'm running stock 2.3.4. I've combed the internet trying to find a fix to this issue, but have found no results so far. I'm contemplating doing a hard reset to hopefully fix this as a last resort if nothing else works... Anyone have any suggestions?
Unfortunately, not all applications support moving to SD card. This is typically because the developer has good reason for not allowing this. For example, apps like facebook that make use of widgets would error every time your SD card is unmounted. Now you may be thinking: "I never take out my SD card so why would this bother me"
However, every time you plug in your phone to a USB port to transfer files such as photos and videos the SD card automatically unmount.
Download App2SD from the market for an easy way to see a list of apps installed on your phone that are programmed to support moving to SD card.
Conclusion: without manipulating your device, there is no way to transfer the apps you've mentioned to an external storage device.
Having the same problem
blastindamusic said:
Unfortunately, not all applications support moving to SD card. This is typically because the developer has good reason for not allowing this. For example, apps like facebook that make use of widgets would error every time your SD card is unmounted. Now you may be thinking: "I never take out my SD card so why would this bother me"
However, every time you plug in your phone to a USB port to transfer files such as photos and videos the SD card automatically unmount.
Download App2SD from the market for an easy way to see a list of apps installed on your phone that are programmed to support moving to SD card.
Conclusion: without manipulating your device, there is no way to transfer the apps you've mentioned to an external storage device.
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Hmm...that would make sense. But I've had Pandora stored externally on my SD card since I was running 2.3.3 and that has a widget feature as well. I'm assuming that the update to 2.3.4 made it impossible to store apps that have widget functionality to the SD once you move them onto internal storage. Thanks for the help.

Possible Lag Cause with a side ?

Something weird happened yesterday... I'm assuming I hit my phone while it was in my pocket (I work a labor driven job) and I'd imagine I did it very hard if this was a cause.
But I had the notice 'SD card unexpectedly disconnected please unmount before removing' or whatever the notice is... Well any and all apps I had on my SD card show up as present on it but are not recognized; they show up as follows "com.[file name].android" or whatever its root name is I'm assuming... these file names show up in task manager and titanium backup as being on my SD card yet in storage it says my entire SD cards space is free.
Please educate me; does this mean they are on my SD card still or not?
Whats just as weird is that I started re-downloading some of the apps that (were or are) stored on my SD card and it says "This app will replace an existing application on the devise. Do you want to continue?"
Any ideas on what happened?
Here's the side question done what related: I had been experiencing lag if I went awhile with out clearing cache and/or killing apps/ clearing memory that were running in the background that had been stored on the SD card... Could these running in the background which I'm using requires constant communication with the SD card be the cause of the lag? In other words is it better to keep all apps on internal space if I want a snappier/ fluid experience?
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Take your SD out of the phone and stick it in your computer. If it shows up and everything is still on it then you know it's not the SD, but the phone. If it's not showing up on your computer, well.. then it's the SD card that's busted.
Cross your fingers that it's not the phone.

[Q] galaxy note internal memory is full and sd card not working

hello guys. i have a galaxy note, At&T version but i have a little problem. For example, i bought Modern combat 3 from the market store and i downloaded the Apk file off market store into my phone, so all in order to play that game, i have to download rest of the data over WiFi right ? but the data of the games that i downloaded over WiFi, it will instal automatically to my internal memory not to my SD card, usually with my others Android phones that i used to have it before it will install to my SD card. However, with my galaxy note every data of the game that i downloaded over WiFi it will stored into my phone memory and now after downloading more than 7 games my phone memory is full and my 32gb SD card still empty, even though my SD card is mounted.And if i ever moved, any data to the SD card, then i cant play the game it will asked me to download the data again and if i downloaded again it will still install into my phone memory . Any helps please. I'm sorry about my English. I'm a french speaker....
Not sure if i understand what you are saying about your sd card. Is there anything at all on it? If not, is it mounted?
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A little suggestion, read what you typed out loud to yourself (proof reading).
BUT, I think I understand.
Unfortunately, not every app (in fact, only around 50-70%) of apps support the ability of moving the app to the sdcard. Most games that download additional data do NOT support being moved.
So, what I suggest you do is move anything on your phone's internal memory to your sd card. Audiobooks, podcasts, movies, music, pictures, etc should be on your sdcard. This way, you should have more than enough room for whatever additional stuff apps are downloading.
Personally, I use my sd card for all of this stuff for two additional reasons - the sd card is replaceable, my phone memory is not. Media such as podcasts, audiobooks, movies, music, and pictures are always being swapped on my phone for different content. Every time you write data, this is a destructive process that wears down the memory cells that store data on the phone or sd card. But since the sd card is much more easily replaced than the phone, I put all of this content on the sd card.
The second reason I put all of my media on the sd card is, 'if' my phone should need to be warrantied, I dont have to worry about anything in the phone's internal storage because I keep everything I can on the sd card.
You also might need to actually plug your phone into the computer and browse thru the folders on the phone and manually delete any game data that is still around for games you arent playing anymore (games you uninstalled) or apps that you no longer have installed.
Or alternatively, redownload the game and follow the instructions below.
When you remove an app that you know you arent going to play again, you should delete it by going to Settings->Applications->Manage Applications, then tap the 'All' tab near the top of the screen. Scroll thru the list and when you see an app you want to remove, tap it. In this next screen, 'if' Force Stop is selectable, tap Force Stop. Then tap 'Clear Data'. Then finally tap 'Uninstall'. Clearing Data deletes any additional data the app creates that is not the actual apk you originally downloaded from the market (in most cases anyway).
Of course, another option is just to do a factory reset (Settings->Privacy and Storage->Reset Phone). This will clean everything (for the most part) off the phone and give you a clean slate to work off. Then, when you delete apps, do the steps I mentioned in the above paragraph when you uninstall any apps.
Mad383Max said:
Not sure if i understand what you are saying about your sd card. Is there anything at all on it? If not, is it mounted?
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yes the SD card is mounted. it shows me the capacity and everything.
littlewierdo said:
A little suggestion, read what you typed out loud to yourself (proof reading).
BUT, I think I understand.
Unfortunately, not every app (in fact, only around 50-70%) of apps support the ability of moving the app to the sdcard. Most games that download additional data do NOT support being moved.
So, what I suggest you do is move anything on your phone's internal memory to your sd card. Audiobooks, podcasts, movies, music, pictures, etc should be on your sdcard. This way, you should have more than enough room for whatever additional stuff apps are downloading.
Personally, I use my sd card for all of this stuff for two additional reasons - the sd card is replaceable, my phone memory is not. Media such as podcasts, audiobooks, movies, music, and pictures are always being swapped on my phone for different content. Every time you write data, this is a destructive process that wears down the memory cells that store data on the phone or sd card. But since the sd card is much more easily replaced than the phone, I put all of this content on the sd card.
The second reason I put all of my media on the sd card is, 'if' my phone should need to be warrantied, I dont have to worry about anything in the phone's internal storage because I keep everything I can on the sd card.
You also might need to actually plug your phone into the computer and browse thru the folders on the phone and manually delete any game data that is still around for games you arent playing anymore (games you uninstalled) or apps that you no longer have installed.
Or alternatively, redownload the game and follow the instructions below.
When you remove an app that you know you arent going to play again, you should delete it by going to Settings->Applications->Manage Applications, then tap the 'All' tab near the top of the screen. Scroll thru the list and when you see an app you want to remove, tap it. In this next screen, 'if' Force Stop is selectable, tap Force Stop. Then tap 'Clear Data'. Then finally tap 'Uninstall'. Clearing Data deletes any additional data the app creates that is not the actual apk you originally downloaded from the market (in most cases anyway).
Of course, another option is just to do a factory reset (Settings->Privacy and Storage->Reset Phone). This will clean everything (for the most part) off the phone and give you a clean slate to work off. Then, when you delete apps, do the steps I mentioned in the above paragraph when you uninstall any apps.
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thanks for ur help bro but it didn't work. i even rest the the phone to the factory but still doing the same thing. tell me on your galaxy note if u download for example asphalt 6 apk and if u star downloading the rest of that over WiFi tell where that file will install ? on your phone memory or to your external SD Card ? thanks
The reality is that any connection you use whether wifi or edge ect.some goes to device and some in sd. sometimes you can put a little bit more inside the SD card.

How to move apps from Internal Storage to SD Card

I just stumbled upon it and I though it might be useful. In order to move an app from your phone's internal storage to your SD card, you just need to
1) open Settings -> Apps
2) Tap on an app
3) Tap on Storage
4) Tap Change
5) Tap SD card
PS: Obviously apps will take more time to open (the delay is noticable in facebook).
jsalatas said:
I just stumbled upon it and I though it might be useful. In order to move an app from your phone's internal storage to your SD card, you just need to
1) open Settings -> Apps
2) Tap on an app
3) Tap on Storage
4) Tap Change
5) Tap SD card
PS: Obviously apps will take more time to open (the delay is noticable in facebook).
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You don't even need to do that. Just long press any app then >app info>storage etc...
jsalatas said:
I just stumbled upon it and I though it might be useful. In order to move an app from your phone's internal storage to your SD card, you just need to
1) open Settings -> Apps
2) Tap on an app
3) Tap on Storage
4) Tap Change
5) Tap SD card
PS: Obviously apps will take more time to open (the delay is noticable in facebook).
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Welcome to Android! :silly:
And for anyone tempted to try, the onboard 64 gig is far faster than any SD card you can currently buy. Many apps will run poorly, if at all. Moving apps to the SD card should be an absolute last resort, right after you've figured out which apps you really didn't need in the first place.
douger1957 said:
And for anyone tempted to try, the onboard 64 gig is far faster than any SD card you can currently buy. Many apps will run poorly, if at all. Moving apps to the SD card should be an absolute last resort, right after you've figured out which apps you really didn't need in the first place.
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I tend to agree, I moved a much of apps to my SD now things run much slower I regret doing so.
Moving apps to SD is soooo kit kat....
Depends on what apps you moved i guess.
Ive notified NO CHANGE on the apps ive moved. WhatsApp is on the SSD card and behaves just as it did on internal.
Let's see.. samsung internet , Firefox, textra, all amazon apps, google drive, instagram, Snapchat, outlook, pandora, OneDrive...
NO DIFFERENCE at all.
Now there was one app, samsung gear 360, it did NOT like to be on storage card (kept force closing even though i was not using it when this was happening) so i moved it back to internal.
Also not ALL of the apps data is moved to the SD card. Some data of the app still lives on the SD.
EDIT: i dont use crackbook aka Facebook, so i cant speak on that, but i use WhatsApp, for example, and it opens up normally. No lag. None of the apps i moved are behaving out of normal. Again this is dependent on other factors, but in my daily use environment i dont notice any lag.
I also dont use the memory and storage optimizer (killing apps in the background from running)...
The internal storage is faster than sd unless you can find one of their new faster sd cards...if you move a lot of apps you may see performance loss...
marctronixx said:
Depends on what apps you moved i guess.
Ive notified NO CHANGE on the apps ive moved. WhatsApp is on the SSD card and behaves just as it did on internal.
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I can't move WhatsApp on my S7 edge. Being wanting to. I get my N8 tomorrow, so even happier if I can now move it
Hey liquid guru
I can't move any apps with my 8.1 rooted phone ...
Is there a thread I'm not able to find on this.
Thanks

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