I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
I considered it for a short time but not after getting s - off. I am staying with my Amaze.
dharvey4651 said:
I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
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This isn't the only forum that's like this, you think it is because you come here the most, I'm 15, and I bought this phone saving up for it, nobody bought it for me, Forums are always like this where noobs/no lifes go into the scene
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LOL... Get a new phone because of childish behavior on this one? Really? LMAO That's childish in itself. If you only get a phone to participate in this community, then you need friends.
Instead of dumping your awesome phone, dump the "childish community" and leave your phone the way it is.
I mean you're a senior moderator. We could actually use your abilities to help moderate this ridiculous kid zone and clean it up.
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if you want to leave i will buy your phone...
Thanks to s-off we'll get busy here and the children and foolish will get shunned.... XDA as a community is full of experienced intelligent people.. The silver spooners will learn or move somewhere else when daddy buys the next new hot item with a stupid gimmicky lock screen....
Stick around its about to get better
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LOL... Get a new phone because of childish behavior on this one? Really? LMAO That's childish in itself. If you only get a phone to participate in this community, then you need friends.
Instead of dumping your awesome phone, dump the "childish community" and leave your phone the way it is.
I mean you're a senior moderator. We could actually use your abilities to help moderate this ridiculous kid zone and clean it up.
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I'm actually a retired senior moderator. I have absolutely no powers on this site anymore. I did pm MikeChannon requesting he reinstate me to this forum only in an attempt to help straighten it up so you're both right and wrong in that regard.
As far as buying a phone just to participate in a community, you're completely wrong about that. Every single phone I have owned since my first Motorola Razr has been a touch screen HTC device and I've been an active member of XDA for almost as long.
I also have no desire to get rid of my Amaze. I simply said that since I'm thoroughly addicted to XDA, I would almost rather have a sensation where there seems to be far less drama.
You see.. I'm a grown man with a wife and daughter. I'm an auto mechanic at a respectable car dealership and I have no desire to sift through 20 pages of useless threads and posts just to read a handful of useless, practical posts.
If Mike decides to reinstate me, you have my word that you will start to notice a big difference around here.
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that would be nice to have a mod around here. and ok... im just looking to get an amaze as cheap as possible
dharvey4651 said:
I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
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Im jumping ship to the one s asap. I cant stand to look at all these damn repeat forms! Plus this phone does carry a lot of drama.
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that would be nice to have a mod around here. and ok... im just looking to get an amaze as cheap as possible
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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I'm actually a retired senior moderator. I have absolutely no powers on this site anymore. I did pm MikeChannon requesting he reinstate me to this forum only in an attempt to help straighten it up so you're both right and wrong in that regard.
As far as buying a phone just to participate in a community, you're completely wrong about that. Every single phone I have owned since my first Motorola Razr has been a touch screen HTC device and I've been an active member of XDA for almost as long.
I also have no desire to get rid of my Amaze. I simply said that since I'm thoroughly addicted to XDA, I would almost rather have a sensation where there seems to be far less drama.
You see.. I'm a grown man with a wife and daughter. I'm an auto mechanic at a respectable car dealership and I have no desire to sift through 20 pages of useless threads and posts just to read a handful of useless, practical posts.
If Mike decides to reinstate me, you have my word that you will start to notice a big difference around here.
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I'm with u on the BS here... but it wasn't this bad when Binary was here. So it can be fixed if we can get the right guy here to clean it up... aka babysit. Thanks
PS I'm also a 27 year old married man with a 9yr old son and a full time job. Also have an addiction to my phone, tablet, and gadgets... xda is just one outlet to feed the addiction
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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With all do respect wardfan, and I personally appreciate your donated time, but the Amaze forum is as cluttered and messy as I've ever seen. Its been getting worse over the last month...... 12 ICS threads... none with ICS... ya know what I mean?
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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sorry didnt see that you were a moderator... (the xda moderator tags should be bolder... so that you guys stick out)
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With all do respect wardfan, and I personally appreciate your donated time, but the Amaze forum is as cluttered and messy as I've ever seen. Its been getting worse over the last month...... 12 ICS threads... none with ICS... ya know what I mean?
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You've said 12 ics threads plenty of times before, but I don't see them, either I'm blind or there's actually a lot less than that. But it's not just the mods job, it also takes plenty of help from the members for reporting things, since we can't be on all the time.
Anyways, back on topic, if you like the phone, which I know nothing about, I'd stick with it even with the childish behaviors lately. It sounds like some good stuff is going to start happening really soon.
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I suppose the title says it all..
I know that the Amaze is lacking in development compared to devices such as the Sensation but there is so much drama here in the Amaze forums... It's kind of ridiculous.
I'm honestly considering buying an HTC Sensation just to get away from the drama here in the Amaze forum.
I really do believe that, though there are exceptions, this entire forum is full of a bunch of spoiled kids who wouldn't even have this device if it weren't for Mommy and Daddy.
Flaming and *****ing and generally behaving like children.
Alright folks.. Lets see how bad I get ripped open for this one..
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its no better in any forum
HTC Sensation Virtuous 4.0 ICS goodness.
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So you're saying there isn't a mod around here? I've posted plenty of warnings lately. :banghead:
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I don't think that's exactly what he meant.
I'm sure you'll admit that it would be nice to have a partner to help maintain the Amaze forums. Who knows.. If Mike decides to reinstate all of my responsibilities as a Senior Mod, I can be of GREAT assistance to you. I know how to do all kinds of weird things.
I was the first person(that I know of) to figure out how to change the date stamp on any post. I actually changed the date stamp of the OP of one of my own threads in the HD2 forum by more than 2 years, predating the device.
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I don't think that's exactly what he meant.
I'm sure you'll admit that it would be nice to have a partner to help maintain the Amaze forums. Who knows.. If Mike decides to reinstate all of my responsibilities as a Senior Mod, I can be of GREAT assistance to you. I know how to do all kinds of weird things.
I was the first person(that I know of) to figure out how to change the date stamp on any post. I actually changed the date stamp of the OP of one of my own threads in the HD2 forum by more than 2 years, predating the device.
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I think I know what you meant, and there is a co-mod that does his own here. I think that I'm just a little to nice and let too much slide. The funny thing, when I did get stern people got crazy about it. So do you want a nice mod or a stern one, it doesn't seem to be enough for this forum either way
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So do you want a nice mod or a stern one, it doesn't seem to be enough for this forum either way
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I believe you need one of each. Having one nicer, understanding mod and then also a NO-BS mod who doesn't give too many chances.
I was the latter of the 2. I don't know if you are familiar with the HD2 fora or not but I am responsible for the restructure it received a while back. You have NO IDEA how many temp-perm bans I had to fork out both during and after that restructure with all the warez and new users we had come in. That forum was a real mess. I was the NO-BS mod that whipped it back into shape.
I'm just saying that even though you may very well be a great moderator(sorry I don't watch much these days) and your partner as well, it never hurts to have a 3rd set of eyes helping out.
Anyways...
You can really close this thread I suppose. I was just venting I guess.. Wanted to see if I was alone in my frustrations or not..
if anything I thought the "drama" only adds to the fun of the forums
i dont see how it affects what device you wold want to own.
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You've said 12 ics threads plenty of times before, but I don't see them, either I'm blind or there's actually a lot less than that. But it's not just the mods job, it also takes plenty of help from the members for reporting things, since we can't be on all the time.
Anyways, back on topic, if you like the phone, which I know nothing about, I'd stick with it even with the childish behaviors lately. It sounds like some good stuff is going to start happening really soon.
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I just reported 6 that have been commented on in the last 7 days... lol I labeled them ics1-ics6 for Wardfan in the report box. I would have copied and pasted all 12 but my laptop screen is junked and I'm just on my thrive tablet now. That also doesn't include 3 dev requests (2 from same guy) on what we all want in a ROM or the Amaze vs Sensation/sgs2/bb/etc... I hope that's sufficient
Edit.. I see some changes being made and THANK YOU from me at least..
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I thought maybe it was just the Vibrant section.. but the other phones I look over seem pretty slow also.
regarding the Vibrant, what gives? Why so slow on here?
The easy answer is people have moved on to new phones (and a lot have), but there are way too many Vibrants out there for XDA to be THIS slow. Are there no more questions that need to be answered? Everyone working on the GB Source?
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I thought maybe it was just the Vibrant section.. but the other phones I look over seem pretty slow also.
regarding the Vibrant, what gives? Why so slow on here?
The easy answer is people have moved on to new phones (and a lot have), but there are way too many Vibrants out there for XDA to be THIS slow. Are there no more questions that need to be answered? Everyone working on the GB Source?
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I don't think that there are no more questions to be answered, it's just that 99% of them already have been if people would be smart enough to search. If you look at development threads, pretty much all of them have the same questions in it and when a new thread is posted, the questions in that thread are the ones that have been previously answered.
Then there are those idiots that complain about a rom being horribly laggy (reflash fix) or having horrible battery life while the rom has only been out for less than a day.
I don't want to see dev's leaving but I can certainly see why they would be going away, xda is full of idiots and trolls.
yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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You can sugar coat crap all you want, in the end it's still crap
I, myself, have been hanging at edt HQ. Much nicer over there.
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Dan_Brutal said:
I, myself, have been hanging at edt HQ. Much nicer over there.
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Yup, I think the previous people said it best. At this point, the Devs et al have really got this phone running sooo good there are not alot of issues to cry about. That, and the pending new phones that are beginning to get released, as well as, the tablets got people less focused on the Vibrant and some of the other phones that are 10 months old.
I got a color nook for my daughter and it is a blast to flash and mod, So alot of my flashing urge is satisfied with that.
I think alot of us are just waiting until June when the new S2 comes out, Then there will be this HUGE swell of interest again. But until that time, the vibrant and Galaxy phones are such a great phone to have it really is hard to complain.
I do agree alot of the kids/trolls have been griping more as of late, but I think that is because we have all been more silent. All in All, Love this Forum and all the people who contribute to it.
Everyones on the shortbus going on a field trip
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oka1 said:
Yup, I think the previous people said it best. At this point, the Devs et al have really got this phone running sooo good there are not alot of issues to cry about. That, and the pending new phones that are beginning to get released, as well as, the tablets got people less focused on the Vibrant and some of the other phones that are 10 months old.
I got a color nook for my daughter and it is a blast to flash and mod, So alot of my flashing urge is satisfied with that.
I think alot of us are just waiting until June when the new S2 comes out, Then there will be this HUGE swell of interest again. But until that time, the vibrant and Galaxy phones are such a great phone to have it really is hard to complain.
I do agree alot of the kids/trolls have been griping more as of late, but I think that is because we have all been more silent. All in All, Love this Forum and all the people who contribute to it.
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I've come dangerously close multiple times on picking up a Nook Color, is it a viable tablet on CM7?
I've been splitting my time between here and Team Whiskey forums....i still love XDA but trolls aren't allowed in T.W. house ...i think when we get our TW ROM devs come back then we'll see some goodness back in the Vibrant forums...until then we're getting over-ran with ROM ports and themes.
I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
All of us could spend time navigating each of their site, and creating logins for each one... but it's just so nice to have EVERYTHING in one space.
And those who do branch off, always seem to come back anyway.
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I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
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I agree, but it seems to be a necessity these days. Also, it sucks having to post two topics xD
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s15274n said:
I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
All of us could spend time navigating each of their site, and creating logins for each one... but it's just so nice to have EVERYTHING in one space.
And those who do branch off, always seem to come back anyway.
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True, but i think the teams go to their own homes b/c of the a**ho*es that do nothing but talk crap about their work without giving thanks...devs at are at their own forums can moderate can control the content themselves as they see fit....when this "Recognized Developer" thing (that XDA Admins have been working on) starts, then devs can control their releasing threads and keep trolling and unnecessary complaining to a minimum...s15 is right, everything should be all in one place...this is XDA, where all smartphone knowledge and MODs originate and come together
Just my opinion...
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I agree, but it seems to be a necessity these days. Also, it sucks having to post two topics xD
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I think everyone knows I respect your work a LOT. I know whats going on around XDA, but not so much behind the scenes. Can you help explain why it seems like a necessity?
Maybe if I understood that part of it better.
Is it really boiling down to spam in the threads/dumb comments?
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I think everyone knows I respect your work a LOT. I know whats going on around XDA, but not so much behind the scenes. Can you help explain why it seems like a necessity?
Maybe if I understood that part of it better.
Is it really boiling down to spam in the threads/dumb comments?
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It really is frustrating a lot.
Most of the time, haters will refuse to register on your site so that's automatically a filter on it's own. Next you have complete power to do anything & everything with your site.
I really wish everyone could stay on XDA but it seems like the amount of dumb we get is increasing daily and it's like there's no way out of it.
Also, people tend to think you're a lot more "professional" if you have a site.
^ you da man. Makes sense, completely understand coming from your perspective.
The reason for the increase in "undesirables" is just in the numbers. The more android catches on the more total people are going to visit xda. That's includes all types. From the seasoned developer looking to learn about android to the person that knows nothing but wants to learn to the person that, no matter what, will not search out even the simplest answer to the out and out troll.
Its just that odds are we hear the most from the latter two as the first two are more apt to search for their answer and ask questions when they truly can't find the answer.
I'm no genius with this stuff but I will at least take the time to learn what the stuff I'm doing to my phone is and how to undo it or fix it if needed. There are more and more people that don't our won't.
XDA Mobile
s15274n said:
I've come dangerously close multiple times on picking up a Nook Color, is it a viable tablet on CM7?
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I have enjoyed playing with mine. Had it about 2 weeks now, absolutely no complaints, totally worth the money. Its impossible to brick and CM7 is running great.
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s15274n said:
yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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here is a question to if you don't mind
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039152
a response awaits.
=)
ya I agree its been quiet here for the last few weeks. I running bi-winning and haven't found the need to switch. I'm thinking about picking up a Hd2 just to tinker with it. I'm having flash withdraws also my wife won't let me play with her Mytouch4g.
Now that HTC made their announcement a couple of weeks ago, we have an actual ETA on the unlocked bootloader. That said, as we all know, it'll be a month or two before this goes into effect. I know that many people (myself included) jumped to the EVO 3D because of the spectacular dev support that the 4G received, hoping that the 3D would get similar support on even better hardware. I think there were many people disappointed in HTC regarding the bootloader and how long it took them to unlock it (and awesomely impressed with dev temp-root workarounds!), and I certainly wouldn't blame developers for jumping ship to another device due to impatience with HTC. Of course, if devs go, there will the people follow.
My question to the devs is that now that we're reaching the deadline of the 30 day exchange policy and with rumors of the Galaxy 2 II on the horizon, are you going to be sticking with the EVO3D or returning it to develop for another phone?
I ask not to call anyone out, but out of sheer curiosity and self-interest. As awesome as this phone is, I want to go with the phone that is going to get the most development, and I know I'm not alone in that regard.
Thanks for your time!
Personally I don't care. But you're going get flamed by some "Obese and Ugly" Super Nerd that has some kind of Napolean Complex and feels the need to tell you that this post is in the wrong section. He thinks he's doing XDA and the "interwebz" a service and also speculates daily that he's important on some grand level.
All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
I've jumped ship. I'll never purchase another HTC phone, they can shove them up their ass, lock their bootloaders and masterbate on the code as it prints out from their ****** iMac and MacBook Pro's.
..sigh.
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All that aside. Development for the EVO 3D is ****. It's over. Thanks to Stericson.
..sigh.
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I would agree with this statement.
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Sad but true .. all I want is to be able to tether
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
No one, just a bunch of morons talking out there ass
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really is it over what dev's have jumped ship?
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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He doesnt sound like he's jumping ship, and last I checked he was a pretty important DEV. At least in my book!
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
Really guys, is too soon to jump out the ship, we gotta be patience, I believe on the EVO3D dev team!
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I don't think any devs have jumped ship, theirs just no reason to develop anything right now. The only thing we have right now is temp root and that has been developed into something far beyond what it started off as.And not to forget the all the skins, unrooted rosie mods, overclocking and everyone behind the scenes working on trying to crack the bootloader with the little there is to work with. For now the 3D is a great example of the saying- when life throws you lemons... And when one of the outstanding Devs here squeezes the juice out of the locked bootloader we will have us one fine lemonade stand.
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Linking fail.
Not many just bounce. Where they stand? Standing on the middle of the screen...
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Sorry, fixed the link. I was trying to do it from my phone, and it defaulted to mobile twitter.
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I would agree with this statement.
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I wouldn't at all (even though we really aren't have a "Dev" discussion right now), I hardly see how anyone can say "HE" killed dev for our device. I don't think the dev is dead at all, hell, he tried to keep all the BS and stupid questions out of the Dev section. I personally think that the fact there has been a min post count rule implemented across the dev forums speaks volumes to and shows that people do need to read and respect the a) section and b) OP when posting in a thread, well.... lets say posting HTC rants in a thread dedicated to our temp root solution.
"He" may have been a bit slow to reopen the thread (in our section) that he was basically forced to police because of morons that can't read or comprehend just what a dev thread is for, but that hardly constitutes making the "Dev being dead, over and out". Said morons and illiterates actually drove the dev's to IRC, away from the public forum where they started and hoped to collect ideas and garner more support from the masses on the development work.
I would like to hear a dev say "he" killed their work on this device... sounds like crazy talk to me from some impatient users.
I won't be jumping ship (speaking as veteran flash addict and avid Dev supporter), we'll have our perm root one way or another. I am just surprised to see people acting so butt hurt over what is going on, a month out of the gate.
Now that, is some sad shhhht to sigh about...
Oh, and... IBTL
I hope allot of the 4g devs do make a appearance, I personally think most of them are the best there is. I believe we picked up a bunch of hero guys too, there's a whole lot of exceptional talent in that group too. I think once we get full root, theres going to be some real awesume stuff pop up overnight in this forum,
I do have to say the ones that are here now are going a great job and putting out a lot of badass stuff considering all most of them have to work with is teamwin's temp root.
/.....
So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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I heard deck, myn, and virus are aboard. I know fresh is. I am sure many other are. I also believe the dev responsible for the kernal for cm7 is aboard to. What is his name? Man bugging me now....
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So many devs have been working really hard on unlocking and rooting this device. On the near horizon there will be so many awesome mods and roms and mods our heads will spin. It's been around 30 days since the device was released and there are ton's of people on board. Once the bootloader is open the floodgates will too. Just sit tight and wait. Good things to come.
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I think that's pretty much where I'm at, just sitting tight. I found myself in the unfortunate spot of getting a 3D with a touchscreen issue, and I'm between doing a 30 day return or exchange. I think more than likely I'll end up keeping it (the thing is a beast), and it's good to know that there's other people sticking around
I think we should all jump ship and give up, after all that's why we're here, at xda developers. Also, this piece of junk unmatched phone had been out for a crazy long 37 days, what with no root... WTF. And that damn mod... Keeping morons with big mouths out of dev threads, what a douche, we should just let everyone say and do what they want in here. That way we could read more. I hope a mod closes this thread and bans the OP for a month, for fun (because this awesome development is... A question). Member since 08 ... Get some email addresses or follow them on Twitter, or pm them, or find them in webchat, that's how you talk to a dev.
BANG! from my shooter...
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You guys have to realize also there is a BIG difference between devs and chefs
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Good point. I did generalize by saying "devs" but I definitely meant both. ROMs are one of the best reasons to root. Looking forward to getting some CM, kushdeck, and MIUI on this bad boy, not to mention the host of awesome Sense developers like Myn, Virus, and Ava. From most responses, it seems like we don't have too much to worry about. As far as CM and MIUI are concerned, if demand is high enough, there'll either be an official release or at the very least a port, since they're community projects.
I have been around since the beginning of android. I Had a G1, then a Nexus One, to a MT4G, and now a Rezound. I rooted every one (minus the rezound obviously) and frequented the forums, learning and discussing the Mod'ing of these devices. As these past years have gone by, I have grown more and more concerned with the direction the community has taken.
Now there has always been at least some drama within the community, but as Android has grown in popularity, and more users seek info in the forums, the drama has ramped up exponentially it seems.
I remember when it was more about info than ego...
My request: Can we please get back to what its really about? Mod'ing, Flashing, and fun. Lets leave our egos at the door, they only do more harm than good. A sense of community and mutual respect is what we should strive for.
No personal insults/attacks be respectful even in disagreements
Don't steal code... give credit where due
Don't be a troll
Don't flame someone just for ignorance (if they seem to be habitual in forum misuse tell a mod so they can investigate and they can handle it appropriately)
Expect nothing, make no demands, ask politely... this goes for all sides
Remember this is a hobby and just for fun for most of us. Replace the fun with drama and what is the point.
I am sure there are other things I could list, but that will do for now.
Edit: resurrected from the dead...
Just so you guys know... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device.
When you think "just my one little question on ETAs won't be a big deal, I'll PM/IRC/tweet/IM the dev" you have to remember... about 100 other people are thinking the exact same thing. Its one thing to pop in the ROM's thread and if you don't see any activity for several days/a week, to post a quick question like "how is it going?", as dealing one one question and being able to answer publicly so others benefit too is not a big deal... Just don't get upset if the answer is a simple "we are still working on it" Often times there is a lot of effort put in but no real progress to report, no landmark goals yet made.
When you take the ETA/update questions into areas like IM that you start getting several people an hour pestering someone with the same question and it gets old...
^^^^^that's what it should about. But u got so many newbies here (and we all started somewhere of course) it seems as of the trolling and such come from New people not understanding the aspect of the site. But I k.ow I'm wasting my time typi.g his. Hope it happens.
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When I first started coming here, it was all about the phones. Helpful people, friendly community, the works. After a while it just seemed to deteriorate. Every other thread was a flame war. It got to a point where i'd rather rack my brain or scour Google before I'd ask a question in here, because I knew some ego tripping person with no manners was gonna try to flame me for asking a simple question. A little respect/courtesy can go a long way, whether if ur helping someone or being helped.
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Thank you for this post. +1000000000
I would like to see a rule enforced regarding swearing and overly aggressive, or hateful language.
I understand that phones can be frustrating, and so can users. But, if you can't post in a helpful and friendly way, you probably shouldn't post at all.
Temporary (and the threat of permanent) banning should be used to keep those in line who do not have the self control to handle posting in a respectful manner.
I wouldn't worry too much. With the Galaxy Nexus going on sale today, most of the babies crying that they can't unlock/root their Rezound are most likely in line right now to exchange their Rezound for the Galaxy Nexus. That should weed out many of those who do nothing but complain here in the Rezound threads.
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I wouldn't worry too much. With the Galaxy Nexus going on sale today, most of the babies crying that they can't unlock/root their Rezound are most likely in line right now to exchange their Rezound for the Galaxy Nexus. That should weed out many of those who do nothing but complain here in the Rezound threads.
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This should be in the general forum, not a phone specific Forum.
That aside, I agree. This is a forum where the work people do is totally by choice, because they like it as a hobby or for whatever other reasons they may have. It's all about respect and patience, something a lot of people need to remember and practice themselves.
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And by this forum, I mean xda in general.
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I agree, that this is what it should be about again!!! ^^^
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This should be in the general forum, not a phone specific Forum.
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Not trying to start anything or flame anyone, but isn't it the Mod's job to determine whether a thread is posted in the wrong area and move it accordingly? It just seems that if you come behind someone who took the time to start a thread and tell them that its in the wrong place, you come off like a smart Alec and thus animosity begins. Not saying that u are, just saying some ppl get off on that and only that. Once again, not trying to start anything, just my two pennies.
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Long live the rezound and the people who help others truly understand this great phone.
I'm living on a yellow submarine
It is their job, I was just saying what I think but I realized that I didn't put the phrase "I think " in that first comment. It was and still is a suggestion before some people flame him cause it is in this forum. Also, if he wants to get that message out, its towards the whole community, not just people in the Rezound forums, know what I mean. Didn't mean to sound like a smart Alec ='(.
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300k said:
It is their job, I was just saying what I think but I realized that I didn't put the phrase "I think " in that first comment. It was and still is a suggestion before some people flame him cause it is in this forum. Also, if he wants to get that message out, its towards the whole community, not just people in the Rezound forums, know what I mean. Didn't mean to sound like a smart Alec ='(.
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Yeah I agree. The flamers r in the building!! Lol its cool I think it is a message that needs to be spread forum wide tho. Another thread got shut down due to the things that are addressed in this thread.
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Yeah, I considered putting this in the over all general forum, but I am seeing so much craziness here in the Rezound forums that I thought it was needed here the most. I might throw it up in the Android general section if you guys think I should.
I love this phone, but I am getting impatient for root.
It is mostly the battery life issue. I hate extra batteries with a passion and hate needing to charge during the day as well. I am a light user, I just game a few minutes during breaks, send a few messages through the day and a few random things here and there. I really only have a smartphone for the convenience that it brings and the fact I like the Android OS and followed it since early 2007. With my MT4G even on a heavy use day (for me) I would have 40% left when I went to bed and charged, usually it was around 60%. With the larger screen and dual cores, I don't expect the same, but I know it will be better with cyanogenMOD on it. I can get through the day, but just barely, and that is on my lightest days.
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Yeah, I considered putting this in the over all general forum, but I am seeing so much craziness here in the Rezound forums that I thought it was needed here the most. I might throw it up in the Android general section if you guys think I should.
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^Agreed. How Many Members That Are Here(Rezound Forum) Actually Look At The Main xda General Section.
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^Agreed. How Many Members That Are Here(Rezound Forum) Actually Look At The Main xda General Section.
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I very rarely head over there.
I agree 100% with the OP. If people talked to each other like they would if they were sitting next to that person, half of the stuff wouldn't be said. When I drove a truck over the road, we used to call them people "CB Rambos".
Ah the courage that comes with anonymity. Isn't it grand...
#ff
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Marine6680 said:
Ah the courage that comes with anonymity. Isn't it grand...
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Hmm...?? Who Are You Referring About? I Didn't Think I Said Anything Wrong Just Noting About Not Many People In "Here" Read The xda-General. If I Said Something Wrong I Do Apologize There Was No Condescending Intention.
OK guys listen well...
Remember this post?
Apparently not... as you all seem to keep acting like little kids.
I saw yet another locked thread when I logged on today.
As it stands I don't care who is or is not lying, who is or is not a troll, and or who is or is not right. I don't, I simply don't...
If you have issues with someone, just ignore them or stay away from their posts, twitter feeds or websites as the case may be. It would be so much better for us all that way.
Now I don't mind a bit of off topic discussion and threads, but all I am seeing lately is bashing, arguing and trolling.
Let me lay a little something on you... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device, and when we don't even have a perm root exploit, loosing top Devs is the worst scenario imaginable.
It is getting so bad that even I am getting aggravated, and I could stay calm even with someone punching me in the face...
It is so bad I am giving serious consideration to jumping ship to the Nexus... An (in my opinion) inferior device to the Rezound, just to get away from most of the drama.
Come on people, get your f***ing acts together, and your heads out of your a**es.
Sorry if I come off as a jerk, but something needs to be said/done about all this.
Internet drama...dun dun dun
And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
Marine6680 said:
Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
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Agreed, but there's plenty of threads already, no need for more (and by now pretty much all the comparisons have been made and all one needs to do is read). Especially when they're just for the drama, and there have certainly been those here.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
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I understand how you feel man. It's just that some people think they're entitled to everything and they want it now. If they don't get it right away then they start having hissy fits. They think they're big and bad and on the top of the world sitting behind their keyboards. Just makes me wonder how they make it through daily life. Best thing really is just to ignore them, don't feed the trolls and eventually they will go away. Sure they'll continue to post and hope to bait a person into a response, but if everyone keeps at it they'll go elsewhere.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
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I think once s-off is achieved things will calm down and the trolls will find somewhere else to bother people. That's how it was with the EVO 3D forum.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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Cosiggity
Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
Hmmm
blestsol said:
Cosiggity
Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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LOL, yea that cracks me up everytime I see it (and hardly seems necessary).
The Rezound may not have the worlds best camera, but it's not half bad for a camera phone....
~John
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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Hehehe, I had been thinking the same thing seeing his/her sig in other threads. Not to go OT, but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
As for the trolls...bashers...dramateers.. and those well known HUTA's (Head Up Their A**es) ... It will never end. They love fuel, and all people like you and me do is refill the tank. Sure, there were much better times when everything was nicer and most of the posts were filled with posituve and/or constructive feedback. This is the same way all over the internet. But there is no sense in blowing up and attacking those who cause the trouble because it does absolutely no goid at all. I know... I've done this myself and it gets me nowhere. The best thing you can do is to always try and encourage positive feedback. Not everyone will like every commend, post or idea... Not everyone will agree on one thing. Best things to not be doing is bragging too much about something or attacking and/or making fun of something someonevow.s...eg.. like their phone.. or hating on something they said. Im no mod in here, but it's just straight out common sense. Some people just wantvto get a rise out of others and those others just can't resist torpedoing that trolls sorry arse with some smarta** comment to get them going even mote.... Admit it, many of us have done it. Some things will never change... And this, is one of them. Thats what mods are for. But everyone here can make their life a little easier by not contributing to the source... / .... Fuel .
Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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I've shared this same idea before, about people just not reading it and keeping it moving. But I do know sometimes you just can't help it.
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nm... was trying to add some levity but decided it's best to leave it alone.
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but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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Great opinion there, you think it's stupid but I've used the epic touch camera and im bitter after being spoiled. Kinda stupid to not see someone has a different experience. Sorry my signature seems to be getting under your skin with your rezound pride.
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Hello guys,
I've been following xda photon forums from the start. I must say that i like what you guys do here and your communication, being helpful and nice to each other. Devs are friendly, owners are like buddies. Honestly, MoPho forums draw a picture in my mind for what it should have been like in all other motorola forums @xda. I own razr xt910 and atrix now. Just decided to trade my atrix for the photon. Atrix is a great device but it doesn't excite me anymore. It's not that i need a photon but cant resist myself of getting one especially after the free msl code guide.
Wish me luck for the trade since i'm looking after a straight trade.
Good luck with that.
I think the fact that the Photon is not as popular as the EVO3D, SGSII, etc. is an advantage when it comes to this forum and the type of peeps participating. I remember how bad some of the other phone forums got after growing with users. Everybody started complaining, fighting, and most the devs, sorry to say, were just plain jerks. In there defense though they were getting stupid questions asked time after time after time from lazy, immature users who didn't want to read first.
The other great thing is that this phone is better stock than most other phones are so not as many peeps having to flash a new rom every hour to get things to work. The roms we do have in this forum are quality and backed by devs willing to provide any support needed.
After being on the EVO 4G forums, and Droid X Forums, boy, I hated the rude people. But after all, we have only had one major fight break out here, and I had to call in the mods to clean some trashy mouths up. But, only one. I am friends with every user, (I think that the one who got into a verbal fight with me left the forums, so now I can honestly say,) every user on the MoPho forums. We are the nicest people just trying to help one another in anyway we can. (Please join the XDA Fan Group by clicking below on my Signature.)
guess most of those "rude people" must be some kids who got too excited on a new phone. Photon is for men, lol... I found popular forums (xda, ppcgeecks, androidforums...) are always helpful.
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After being on the EVO 4G forums, and Droid X Forums, boy, I hated the rude people. But after all, we have only had one major fight break out here, and I had to call in the mods to clean some trashy mouths up. But, only one. I am friends with every user, (I think that the one who got into a verbal fight with me left the forums, so now I can honestly say,) every user on the MoPho forums. We are the nicest people just trying to help one another in anyway we can. (Please join the XDA Fan Group by clicking below on my Signature.) If you are looking for a signature picture, please PM me, I will hook you up, provided you donate, even a small amount helps pay the bills, lol.
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I think you can block curse words bubb the rest of us I think are over 16/18. We can handle the words of the curse
adding stars to curse words isn't going to change anything we all know what it is....as long as someone isn't calling another user a ****ing asshat I think we are good
Welcome! We are a small family here and get along well (I think so anyway!) Get Deedscreen to make you a signature like he did mine, ask questions, provide answers if you know them, tell a joke now and then!!!
If you look at my signature, SPB 3D Shell is giving me a headache at the moment, but I love my phone. Get Otterbox Defender over GhostArmor to protect that baby!
Coming from the EVO 4G since it's launch, I've definitely seen my share of arguments and rudeness on both XDA and the Androidforums website.
The community for the Photon seems smaller but not less served. We already have a nearly stable CM7, a Miui port, and our CM9 is well on the way to being on par with the EVO 4G's.
The only thing we're missing is some themed roms, but it is of little consequence, specially if you use CM7 and utilize the theme manager.
I've come from the Samsung Galaxy S, it was good and lots of development but the crappy GPS annoyed me, couldn't get a fix unless you're under a clear sky.
Loving the Photon, gives me a fix down to 6m indoors on a rainy day in just a few seconds! Also the notification LED is really nice.
Its funny how no one had this phone but when a little development comes around all these new people pop up randomly lol. Good luck with your trade, and if its successful hope you enjoy the best device on sprint's network!
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Welcome! We are a small family here and get along well (I think so anyway!) Get Deedscreen to make you a signature like he did mine, ask questions, provide answers if you know them, tell a joke now and then!!!
If you look at my signature, SPB 3D Shell is giving me a headache at the moment, but I love my phone. Get Otterbox Defender over GhostArmor to protect that baby!
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You will never fully enjoy your phone until you ditch that launcher bro lol. I understand that many paid 15 bucks for it so you guys are clinging to it but its bad, Michael Jackson bad (aka it sucks).
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Its funny how no one had this phone but when a little development comes around all these new people pop up randomly lol. Good luck with your trade, and if its successful hope you enjoy the best device on sprint's network!
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I know right... but it's all good the more the better!
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is a great...
is a great phone man ! buy it.
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Its funny how no one had this phone but when a little development comes around all these new people pop up randomly lol. Good luck with your trade, and if its successful hope you enjoy the best device on sprint's network!
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Truth
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I'm posting from cm9 on 3g now its way better on the mopho than my evo even without the camera working we might not have as many devs as the evo but ares are the best
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kennypow3rs said:
Its funny how no one had this phone but when a little development comes around all these new people pop up randomly lol. Good luck with your trade, and if its successful hope you enjoy the best device on sprint's network!
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I bought the Photon on launch day. But I came here hoping to find development works. I don't have those skills (or that time) but I am grateful to those of you who do.
Meanwhile, I like the phone, and I like the community. I assumed there were similar communities around most of the phones, though.
It's a very good phone. Just watch out for the texting issues.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
Glad to see one of the best phones I've had or seen is getting more love! It really is a winner, though. Great battery, great hardware, good screen, and a wonderful community; what mote could u ask for in a phone?
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It's a very good phone. Just watch out for the texting issues.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
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What texting issues...or are you trolling?
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welcome
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Hello guys,
Will finish the trade on monday. For starters i know a lot about the photon, there is no texting issue or whatsoever. It is one of rare stable stable out of the box android phones in history.