I just bought an MEX-BT2500 and had it installed - all at Circuit City, for the Americans on this forum.
Since I literally *just* got it, I will give an initial impression and then update this in a few days probably with some more info.
INITIAL IMPRESSION
Well, it looks nice. The buttons have blue LEDs. But that's not very important. Pairing it with the Hermes was pretty painless, you just turn it off and then hold the Equalizer/Bluetooth button >7 seconds. The passcode is, of course, 0000. It has three separate Bluetooth icons - one for it being off/on/discoverable, one for hands-free being connected, and one for A2DP being connected.
When re-pairing after turning it off or something, the A2DP mode does not reconnect automatically. I've tried pressing 6 (Pause) and that made it reconnect. Maybe there are other ways of doing it, I don't know.
I am still experimenting with the A2DP settings to figure out what sounds best - I am using the Microsoft stack, so I'm not expecting miracles here - so far, it sounds OK at BitPool/MaxBitPool = 58 and Joint Stereo = 1. Contrary to popular belief, Joint Stereo is NOT mono, but I have yet to determine whether the Microsoft stack thinks that. I just need to play the right song. I read somewhere on this forum that increasing BitPool/MaxBitPool to 72 while keeping Joint Stereo on sounds good, so I'll try that later.
I will try the hands-free mode later on as well. Updates to follow.
UPDATE 1: More on A2DP (and a bit of hands-free)
I set both of the BitPool values to 72 and enabled Joint Stereo. It works well. The sound is most definitely stereo, and the quality is a lot better than what it was with a lower BitPool and Joint Stereo off. I've never tried the Widcomm stack, so I can't compare it to that. I also tried hands-free calling, but it did not work at all. That turned out to be an issue with the ROM (because it no longer worked with my HT820 either), which has since been resolved by flashing a different ROM. One extremely disappointing thing is that it looks like, for making calls, you can only initiate a redial from the device. I haven't looked into that too much yet.
UPDATE 2: Hands-free
I still haven't been able to make it do anything but redial for initiating calls, but the call quality appears to be quite good, both for the person on the other end and for me. I have to say, I'm impressed by that, especially since the Parrot MK6000 apparently has a huge separate dual microphone that you have to mount in order to get clarity.
One thing that has started to annoy me is the beeping when I turn off my car. Apparently it's to remind me to take off the faceplate, but I don't always want to do that and it pretty damn annoying. I don't believe there is a way to turn that off. You can turn off other beeps, but not that one.
UPDATE 3: A2DP again
The wireless stereo really does work well! The Hermes is able to handle receiving Internet radio streams (www.di.fm in my case) and piping them through A2DP just fine using MortPlayer. Speaking of which, AVRCP works well. Play/pause, previous, and next buttons all work, but with a slight (<1 sec) delay, which is caused by something other than the BT2500 because the same delay occurs with the Motorola HT820. It's either an issue with MortPlayer or the Microsoft stack - I don't know which one since that is the only combination I've used that supports AVRCP.
One thing I have yet to try is receiving a call while listening to music. I will try to do it tomorrow and see what happens.
I've had the MEX-BT5000 (the BT2500's predecessor) since January & use it with my Wizard. I haven't had any issues with A2DP connections -- I've paired it only once when I installed the headunit.
The only time I have to reconnect is if the Sony powers up without my Wizard in range -- the next time I power up the Sony, it'll connect to the Wizard's hands-free profile, but not in A2DP. To reconnect A2DP, open up the Wizard's BT connections screen, select the MEX-BT5000 device, and right-click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
3waygeek said:
I've had the MEX-BT5000 (the BT2500's predecessor) since January & use it with my Wizard. I haven't had any issues with A2DP connections -- I've paired it only once when I installed the headunit.
The only time I have to reconnect is if the Sony powers up without my Wizard in range -- the next time I power up the Sony, it'll connect to the Wizard's hands-free profile, but not in A2DP. To reconnect A2DP, open up the Wizard's BT connections screen, select the MEX-BT5000 device, and right-click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
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Im fitting a BT5000 today in my new car. What car did you install yours in?
Ive fitted a new head unit to a vauxhall corsa before but never needed to use the smart cable for steering whell controls...is it dead easy?
P.S: the new car is a 2003 vauxhall astra
Does the BT5000 let you do voice dial through the Hermes/Wizard, or does it also just support last number redial? So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything but redial for call initiation.
mrvanx said:
Im fitting a BT5000 today in my new car. What car did you install yours in?
Ive fitted a new head unit to a vauxhall corsa before but never needed to use the smart cable for steering whell controls...is it dead easy?
P.S: the new car is a 2003 vauxhall astra
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Mine is a 2002 Mitsubishi Diamante -- I had to get a $60 translation unit to interface the steering wheel controls to the headunit. Installing the translation unit took some doing -- they're a bit tricky to program.
Trancecoder said:
Does the BT5000 let you do voice dial through the Hermes/Wizard, or does it also just support last number redial? So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything but redial for call initiation.
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Haven't tried voicedial -- I've got Voice Command 1.6 installed on the Wizard, so I think it'd work. I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Quick report back, had a right bastard of a time installing it LOL!
Vauxhall cables are deliberatly CRAPPY, i had to swap over two of the wires because the unit was not keeping the time or radio stations when i switched off the ignition. I also purchased a smart lead to enable the steering wheel controls.
Finally got it working, works an absolute DREAM with both A2DP and handsfree.
I am also thinking of getting the BT2500, but my big problem with it is the 'redial' problem. Apparently the BT5000 can download and store 50 numbers but doesn't allow for voicedial, (I've heard anyways)...
Trancecoder: Did you ever find something to trick the phone into launching voicedialing when a bluetooth redial was activated? What about the 1-6 buttons, can they be programmed for speeddials like the BT5000 ??
JamesManios - I don't believe the BT2500 downloads any contact info whatsoever, so those keys won't be able to be programmed. As for the redial vs voice dial issue, I haven't experimented much with it, so if there is a way to make it speed dial, I haven't found it yet.
Trancecoder: Thanks for the reply, how are you liking the unit now that you've had it for a while.
As an idea for dialing I was thinking of making an app to maybe accomplish it, but some of it I don't know how to do yet...
My idea was, have the app pole every 200msec or so and see if the phone has started dialing (that I pretty much know how to do), then see if you are connected to the bluetooth handsfree (don't know how to do that just yet)... then the program can assume that if you are dialing AND in the car (because you are connected), then you must be using the redial... STOP the redial and launch the VoiceDialing app...
It leads to some questions, like would the Stereo drop the BT connection and therefore the voice prompt would be from the phone speaker and using the phone mic and NOT the stereo...
I currently have this (which works very well), but not as clean as the stereo ... but I'm not sure I want to lose CallID and VoiceDial... to buy this unit.
http://www.vitebo.com/ny00050/produ...betiew&MenuID=28&BClassID=9&SClassID=0&PID=13
ive had a bmw m3 and the bluetooth sucks in it my infiniti much better. i always use my jawbone though. I may need to pick this one up.
JamesManios said:
Trancecoder: Thanks for the reply, how are you liking the unit now that you've had it for a while.
As an idea for dialing I was thinking of making an app to maybe accomplish it, but some of it I don't know how to do yet...
My idea was, have the app pole every 200msec or so and see if the phone has started dialing (that I pretty much know how to do), then see if you are connected to the bluetooth handsfree (don't know how to do that just yet)... then the program can assume that if you are dialing AND in the car (because you are connected), then you must be using the redial... STOP the redial and launch the VoiceDialing app...
It leads to some questions, like would the Stereo drop the BT connection and therefore the voice prompt would be from the phone speaker and using the phone mic and NOT the stereo...
I currently have this (which works very well), but not as clean as the stereo ... but I'm not sure I want to lose CallID and VoiceDial... to buy this unit.
http://www.vitebo.com/ny00050/produ...betiew&MenuID=28&BClassID=9&SClassID=0&PID=13
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The unit's pros outweigh its cons, at least for me personally. I receive a lot more calls than I make while driving, so the dialing issue is not a big deal for me. The person on the other end can definitely hear background noise, but they can still hear me pretty well when I have my windows open and driving ~50MPH. The unit also plays MP3 CDs, which is nice because I have some from when I was using my old MP3 CD player. A2DP quality is good, although occasionally there is a drop out for about half a second. Sometimes it happens 20 minutes into driving, sometimes not at all, so I have no idea what's causing it. Overall, I'm satisfied with it.
One thing I noticed is that when I press the Hermes button 5 (mapped to Cyberon Voice Commander) while fully connected to the BT2500, the "Say command" prompt goes out through the Hermes' speaker and not the BT2500. That may cause additional problems if you want to try and create a software fix for the auto-redial.
That Vitebo website is full of Engrish! "THE FRESH PET OF CAR ARTICLE" - what does that mean?
Ya, that website is pretty brutal, unfortunately the manual is similar but I got it finally figured it out (I hope)
I decided against the Sony and bought a none BT headunit, thanks for all the info though.
Had mine for 8 months now...
Excellent unit. I had BMW factory fit bluetooth in my old car, this is much clearer (VW Passat).
I used mune with an Artemis, and now an Elf/Touch...
It doesn't download a phonebook, so the only dialing it can do is redial last number - but just use PocketCm and dial with your finger!
Quality is good - I have found, however, that A2DP streaming breaks up unless I use Coreplayer, which is 100% perfect... and yes, pressing '6' a coupl eof times toggles on the bluetooth stereo on the device, which is good, because otherwise, I wouldn't be able to hear tomtom instructions if I had the radio on!
Sound quality all round is excellent - just a shame it dosn't have a steering-wheel mounted remote instead of the useless IR one...
groove IP works great for voip with google voice.
I've got mine running on cricket network
the view has all the hardware for normal phone calls with bluetooth headset!
just needs a little software tweeking
Agreed, I've only used mine through the speaker though as I read somewhere that the Bluetooth wouldn't work for the phone part over wifi. It does? What tweaking needs to be done? I'm not rooted if that matters.
Can I use google call on the View?
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dtack said:
groove IP works great for voip with google voice.
I've got mine running on cricket network
the view has all the hardware for normal phone calls with bluetooth headset!
just needs a little software tweeking
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I just bought this tablet last week and the first thing I did was load Google Voice with Groove IP. The 2nd thing I did was load Copilot Map Navigation at their sale price ($9.99).
I now have a wifi mobile phone and a pretty decent Garmin knock-off.
The bluetooth doesn't connect to the Groove IP interface so I either use simple headphones or I hold my ear to the speaker while my mouth is next to the condensor mic. (Kinda like this silly video clip: http://youtu.be/dhk_OL-5aVo )
Evo View as phone
I'm using the wonderful clever name rom by contradude
with launcher pro you get the HTC dialer.
with sense you need dialer one.
a friend of mine will be posting a step by step soon.
what we really need is someone to cook all the cell and voip tweeks into a new rom!!!
I tried viber, mypeople to make phone calls. None of them worked since these apps dont recognize NT's microphone. I also used earphones with mic but they dont work as well.
Hope there is voip app that works on NT
I tried viber too. Such a shame it doesn't recognise the mic. Maybe possible to tweak a setup file for it to work. Anybody have any ideas which?
I was lookin forward to it too
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I have the same problem with Skpye
When I dail somebody,but always failed
Only One time,when I did "video call" to somebody ,it worked,both voice and video
The annoying thing is that if you download google voice search that uses the mic!
I have seen a few reports of people using google voice with groove Ip... also seen reports of it not working though
I have groove ip, I can call out and people hear me, my only problem is hearing them. I might try using the speaker phone setting or headphones and see what happens. hopefully once we can load custom kernels well can find a way to unlock and utilize the Bluetooth enabled chip giving us the option to use a Bluetooth mic and speaker
What about Gvoice app?
I have both gvoice and grooveip on my NT. I have incoming sound but no outgoing on either. How did you get the mic to work or did I misunderstand you having outgoing voice??
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I have groove ip, I can call out and people hear me, my only problem is hearing them. I might try using the speaker phone setting or headphones and see what happens. hopefully once we can load custom kernels well can find a way to unlock and utilize the Bluetooth enabled chip giving us the option to use a Bluetooth mic and speaker
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Could you share which version you're using? I connect but neither the mic or the speaker seem to work? Did you tweak the mic gain any? I tried a few setting but it didn't seem to make a difference.
cm7 alpha final and no mic with voip
I am using the latest cyanogenmod7 and have used groove ip, line2, and a few other apps without success. Everything works except the mic. I use groove ip now and then to call my phone when i cant find it around the house with my nook. I really need this service to work though. Voip is pretty important to my oj this nook. Hopefully a fix will come along.
I am looking for an app for android that behaves like microsoft's Your Phone app, but uses your wifi connection to make phone calls instead of bluetooth.
My goal is to be able to use sms and phone calls from my pc, hearing the ringing in my headset would be a big plus. i have had a lot of negative experiences with bluetooth over the last decade ranging from software on different bluetooth devices seeing each other and refusing to connect to very poor quality (crackling, low bauld rates), having never experienced a good or even fair quality use, I wish to steer clear of it at all costs.
Any suggestions?
Android messages can be used for texts, http://messages.google.com/web. Not sure about something that would work well for calls though.
Hello,
This issue has been driving me insane. It seems like some simple, artificial limitation that no one seems to circumvent. As the title suggests, I'm trying to force phone calls and especially VoiP calls (Discord, whatsapp..etc), to go through the high bitrate A2DP profile instead of the horrible HSP/HFP profile that butchers audio quality and uses the horrible bluetooth microphone.
For instance when music is streamed through a bot in Discord i have to listen to it in horrible earpiece-level phone call quality.
I feel like there's got to be a tweak, a Magisk module, a custom ROM functionality with root access that allow for this, something.. I found a couple old XDA posts about this but no solutions. Oh and also tried Lesser AudioSwitch on multiple Android versions, none worked.
It seems inherent to all bluetooth headphones which is a shame, they could cost 10k $, but the quality would still be sh*t in calls, both in and out, since mic is not close to the mouth.
I always loved Android for giving users more control, but sadly seems like this is more and more going away. What i want here, can very easily be done on PC.
Thank you for your time reading, really hope someone can help.