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So um, I posted this a few hours ago waaaaay up in the VERY general Q&A forum but now realize I can and should have put it here. So here goes:
I've read all the rules, terms, threats about what happens if you don't SEARCH first - guys I've done it all and for a long time. I have been studying up on how to root / flash my MoPhoton 4g since I got it last August. I think I'm finally ready....but now I'm afraid I'm too late. I got involved in that soak test, which installed 2.3.5. Now, if I've searched/read acs and xda correctly (and other less intelligent sites), here's where I think I am:
1. There is no way to downgrade from 2.3.5
2. Shabbypenguin's wonderfully simple and sweet One Click Root won't do the trick on 2.3.5 (and boy did I try it MANY times). Had correct drives installed, etc...but no go. I assume you guys know what I'm talking about, but I can and will paste what the script read if you need me too. Short story...got all the way to "you should have root"....but I don't.
3. Currently the only way to do it is with a root method called Torpedo....which I don't know enough about yet but I'm about to get into it... I am nervous though. Since I'm a rooting virgin I would MUCH prefer something easy like OCR.
4. And finally, even if I get root, I won't be able to unlock bootloader, again, because of 2.3.5. So no flashing anything at all (had been planning on cm7 or 9) to replace the stock OS.
Sound about right so far? If so, here's my big question:
If I can ONLY root for now, will I obtain ANY of the benefits I am looking for (mainly increasing/unleashing the SPEED I know this phone is capable of)? Also, I'd like to get free wireless hotspot too, cause if you're gonna dream, dream big.
2nd question: If all the above is correct (and I'm hoping it's not), are the odds decent that one of the geniuses around here will solve this bootloader problem sometime......soon?
Thanks in advance for any help guys!!
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Yes, you are correct that you can root with photon-torpedo, but will not be able to unlock your bootloader, (for now). I just did it a little while back, and found that using terminal emulator didn't work on my phone, and had to push the .tar file in using the command prompt on my computer with the instructions I got from here.
http://briefmobile.com/how-to-root-motorola-photon-4g
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. When you say "a little while back" you mean when exactly? Your link was an active thread 10 months ago but it's now abandoned and the links don't work. Not a big deal tho, I know where to find torpedo.
Any help out there from a senior member or mod? Most specifically about my last two questions...
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cool old lady said:
Thanks for the reply. When you say "a little while back" you mean when exactly? Your link was an active thread 10 months ago but it's now abandoned and the links don't work. Not a big deal tho, I know where to find torpedo.
Any help out there from a senior member or mod? Most specifically about my last two questions...
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Root will allow you to use root apps, access file systems, and yes let you use the free wifi hotspot. You could also clear out the bloatware that Sprint/Moto load your phone down with. It will NOT allow you to overclock(although you DO need root you also need a modified kernel which isn't possible with a locked bootloader) Rule here about bootloader unlock of 2.3.5 is don't ask for ETA's so it may be tomorrow or may never happen. Realistically im sure it will come eventually but can put no accurate time frame behind it. Torpedo is really a walk in the park, just read through instructions and follow them and it will take you no more than 10 min.
Torpedo Root, universal deblur/debloat and zepplinrox V6 supercharger. You may not get overclocking but your phone will be significantly faster/smoother than stock.
Awesome, thank you! Hope to report back soon with successful results.
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cool old lady said:
4. And finally, even if I get root, I won't be able to unlock bootloader, again, because of 2.3.5. So no flashing anything at all (had been planning on cm7 or 9) to replace the stock OS.
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You should be able to use the bootstrap recovery to flash a rom, this won't touch the kernel, so no over clocking, but i imagine that most of them are already debloated with the supercharger script (dont quote me on that one). So there are still ways to play around with a few of the roms here anyway.
Hope that helps.
I have been rooting and using custom ROMs since the earlier Galaxy Captivate days, so I consider myself fairly skilled in the art.
Today I set out to root and put CM9 on my wife's I777.
Got the phone rooted with the Zedomax kernel and I have superuser on the phone.
Reboot into recovery and I get CWM V5.0.2.3 All good, right?
Got the CM9 rom on the micro SD card and I select select INSTALL Zip from sdcard
Hit the powerbutton and I get a black screen with a hat and an orange circle.
To only way to get out is to hit the Power button.
None of the options work.
Only way to recover is to remove battery.
What is going on here? I must have missed something.
TIA Robert
Use the home key to select and don't use zedomaxs stuff. There is a reason his thread is locked here. His stuff is pure garbage
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Home button? LOL
Anyway, before I wipe anything on that phone should I abandon this and use a different root method?
It is pretty hot and humid outside and I don't want to spend the next few days outside because I mess up her phone.
yoderk said:
... don't use zedomaxs stuff. There is a reason his thread is locked here. His stuff is pure garbage
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Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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You got his stuff from a different website, Used his guides and stuff. Why would you come here for support for his bull****?
Thats why.
Want support, use guides and tools from here.
MotoMudder77 said:
You got his stuff from a different website, Used his guides and stuff. Why would you come here for support for his bull****?
Thats why.
Want support, use guides and tools from here.
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I didn't come here for support for anyone's "bull****", I just hijacked (my apology) this thread to ask why you guys think it's bull****. As I said - not trying to attack anyone or anything or any method, I asked a genuine question. One would think you could spell out a genuine reason why it's crap. Too bad your tone rules this great forum. Just a simple question...geez. Thanks anyway.
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Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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Ever since he posted his kernel it has caused problems with people losing wifi and such. Then most of the new people come here complaining about the problems. Its best to use what is on this site to root and find a more stable kernel.
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wavemaster00 said:
Home button? LOL
Anyway, before I wipe anything on that phone should I abandon this and use a different root method?
It is pretty hot and humid outside and I don't want to spend the next few days outside because I mess up her phone.
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If your just going to flash cm9 then I wouldn't worry about using another method as your gonna override the kernel anyways. So just go ahead and wipe and flash and enjoy
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sbi1 said:
Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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Zedomax's first priority is building web sites that will make him money. He is only secondarily a developer of firmware, and evidently fairly talented. However, his mode of operation is to build a website with rooting tools for a phone, promote it for a few days, and then you hardly ever see or hear from him again. He's already moved on to another phone and another web site. So his tools get old and become unsupported. Some of the firmware he provides works as advertised, and some of it causes serious problems. Once he develops something, it seems he doesn't even care to determine if it is bug free. In particular for this phone, his rooting method seems to work, at least most of the time. However, his unrooting method causes untold problems, and even soft bricks. And people come here to ask how to fix the problems. Some have had fairly serious problems that are rather difficult to correct from using his tools. We've seen so many problems associated with his stuff that when we see the name zedomax, we immediately think, "ok I know what your problem is."
Thank you yoderk and creepyncrawly.
First of all I would just like to say that moto's post was uncalled for, this is a great site but i swear sometimes the people here can be a bit rude. anyway I agree you should stay away from zedomax's stuff ( no offense to him) you can use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081 i used it and vouch for it it has all the info youll need or use jivy root guide too Hth
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
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http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
k9time said:
This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
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This is the best thread to learn about what's what and how to's!
Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
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This has got to be the easiest method of rooting. It's what I've used on a few different phones and has never failed me!
Custom roms vary in stability. If they are based on source code they are going to be more stable than others. They will say "built from official source". Other roms can be just as stable depending on the developer and how much effort was put into the rom. You have to read the threads on the roms to compare issues if any, then pick the one you want to try.
The best advice I can give you is before you install or flash anything you verify it's for your device, and read the instructions at LEAST twice!
Welcome to xda ... I suggest you first read the xda rules. This is the general forum. Not for questions. There is a Q &A forum to ask questions in ... After searching.
That said ... Super everything thread is for you.
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Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
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That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
Agoattamer said:
That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
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Whoa, that's freakin bizarre that it does an auto reinstall of the stock recovery. very creative.
Wow, Thanks to everybody who got involved. I didn't know that I had this many replies, I just got a notification for the first reply. Thanks a lot.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread since I having the same concern, and before I get flamed. Please let me know which approach would be suitable to ask more questions while staying on topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
lousk said:
Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread, having the same concern, and before I get flamed at, I just want to be certain I'm not hijacking this thread. Before starting a new thread having the same concern, please let me know which way would be suitable to ask more questions on the same topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
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Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
sumchans said:
Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
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You can always copy/paste the link and remove the www. and .com then someone with more posts can repost it for ya.
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
sumchans said:
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
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No problem
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
440bro said:
No problem
Thanks again 440bro.
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Thank you so much for your replies and links.
I'll follow up and let you know of the outcome or if I have additional question(s).
You guys are great!
I have a big project about Android. So you know noobs can't use ADB and Fastboot well. I have an idea for this; I'll make a custom file extension. That is an script. That will be a custom script. So how can I make my own scripting language ? And how can I export a file format from scripting language ? For example; Perl' s file format is .pl and Shell' s is .sh and so on...
Imagine I made an scripting language. But how can I make a program for running that ?
Go on, my idea is; user will install executer program. And he/she can run special scripts with that. So rooting, bootloader unlocking will be pretty easy with that. What do you think ?
My scripting language's scripts will be like this:
[ADB] reboot; ( Calls adb reboot command )
[FASTBOOT] oem unlock;
And here is a rooting script in my mind:
[FASTBOOT] oem unlock;
[FLASH R] [FILENAME:twrp.img];
[MESSAGE] Put your device to sideload mode.;
[SIDELOAD] [FILENAME:root.zip]
[ADB] reboot;
So noobs can use ADB and Fastboot commands without using CMD. .When user openes .myscript file with notepad, he/she will see that codes.
Thanks for your help...
Sorry to burst your bubble but this is a rediculous idea!
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but this is a rediculous idea!
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Why? I don't think so..
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yashade2001 said:
Why? I don't think so..
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I know you don't think so but think first.
Is your script gonna setup adb for these users?
Is it gonna know what phone or tablet or version of android each is running?
Has it error checking?
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Explain to me please,
You talk about noobs not being able to use adb or flashboot but you expect them to be able to run your imaginary scripting language with your own imaginary extension (which makes no sense).
It's obvious that you know NOTHING about scripting or programming.
Leave this stuff to the experts.
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
I know you don't think so but think first.
Is your script gonna setup adb for these users?
Is it gonna know what phone or tablet or version of android each is running?
Has it error checking?
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The tools exist to do all this and they work well. Reinvent the wheel if you want, just make sure it's not square!
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Look man, I have not got an idea for how. I am about learning. Even i don't know how can i write a scripting language. Your opinion is not bad but i know i can do this..
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Edit: I know i can not give very good ideas but idea is just an idea. Keep it easy.
yashade2001 said:
Look man, I have not got an idea for how. I am about learning. Even i don't know how can i write a scripting language. Your opinion is not bad but i know i can do this..
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Edit: I know i can not give very good ideas but idea is just an idea. Keep it easy.
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It's an idea but not a good one! It's funny that you even think you need to invent a scripting language and extensions! It really is very funny!
I suggest you start with "Hello World" and work your way up. You'll soon see how stupid an idea this is.
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
It's an idea but not a good one! It's funny that you even think you need to invent a scripting language and extensions! It really is very funny!
I suggest you start with "Hello World" and work your way up. You'll soon see how stupid an idea this is.
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Thanks for opinions... But that is YOUR opinion.
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Edit: So Adam Outler's casual is a stupid idea in your case, right?
yashade2001 said:
Thanks for opinions... But that is YOUR opinion.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 4.
Edit: So Adam Outler's casual is a stupid idea in your case, right?
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Hahahaa - you compare your idea to Adam Outler's?
You silly child!
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Hahahaa - you compare your idea to Adam Outler's?
You silly child!
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I say, just an idea. Keep it easy. I am not comparing this sh*t with casual. And stop giving damn negative energy. This is my idea and i am saying this is a good idea in my case. Your opinion is good, but I am saying mine is better. But i like yours, that means you should like my idea even if you hate this. I know this is not a super idea and i am not Koushik Dutta. I just wanna make it. Are you understanding me? I am saying yeah this is not a good idea. But idea is just an idea. Keep it easy. But you are saying you are wrong i am right.
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yashade2001 said:
I say, just an idea. Keep it easy. I am not comparing this sh*t with casual. And stop giving damn negative energy. This is my idea and i am saying this is a good idea in my case. Your opinion is good, but I am saying mine is better. But i like yours, that means you should like my idea even if you hate this. I know this is not a super idea and i am not Koushik Dutta. I just wanna make it. Are you understanding me? I am saying yeah this is not a good idea. But idea is just an idea. Keep it easy. But you are saying you are wrong i i am right. I just wanna give some energy from others to do this. Especially positive energy...
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I await eagerly the opinion of others.
Firstly, you don't need to invent any scripting language - you just have to know how to script.
Secondly, you don't need to invent any extensions.
Thirdly, adb is super simple to use, even for noobs.
Lastly, It would be impossible for you to setup adb for all devices.
But hey - I'm not stopping you.. if you still think this is a good idea, message Adam and ask his opinion. With something this groundbreaking and astoundingly clever I'm sure he'll be delighted to work with you on the project!
Personally I've better things to do.
I understand where you're coming from and but I agree with the tactless poster above, it is not necessary nor would it accomplish what you think it would
If you are interested in making things easier along the lines of adb and fastboot, maybe consider making a GUI for this with simple buttons for new users to press. Some already exist and the interface on most could use updating but it may be a better and more useful step (and one that would actually work in reality)
But I stand by the mantra that if you give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime
In other words simplifying often leads to ignorance and more trouble in the future, best thing to do is to direct new users to guides in hopes they can understand more clearly what they want to accomplish
But kudos to you for thinking outside the box, just in this case I'm afraid your idea won't work as you hope
Best of luck in future endeavors!
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Scripting languages have what's called an "interpreter." You have to write the interpreter in native code, something the underlying OS understands. For Android that might be C or Java. The interpreter reads your script (which can be structured however your heart desires), then it's actually the interpreter that executes the commands.
The OP is being naive, not ridiculous. We've all been at the point. There's no shame in that.
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
I await eagerly the opinion of others.
Firstly, you don't need to invent any scripting language - you just have to know how to script.
Secondly, you don't need to invent any extensions.
Thirdly, adb is super simple to use, even for noobs.
Lastly, It would be impossible for you to setup adb for all devices.
But hey - I'm not stopping you.. if you still think this is a good idea, message Adam and ask his opinion. With something this groundbreaking and astoundingly clever I'm sure he'll be delighted to work with you on the project!
Personally I've better things to do.
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Thanks man. But i wanna make my 'own' ... Thanks anyway.
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demkantor said:
I understand where you're coming from and but I agree with the tactless poster above, it is not necessary nor would it accomplish what you think it would
If you are interested in making things easier along the lines of adb and fastboot, maybe consider making a GUI for this with simple buttons for new users to press. Some already exist and the interface on most could use updating but it may be a better and more useful step (and one that would actually work in reality)
But I stand by the mantra that if you give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime
In other words simplifying often leads to ignorance and more trouble in the future, best thing to do is to direct new users to guides in hopes they can understand more clearly what they want to accomplish
But kudos to you for thinking outside the box, just in this case I'm afraid your idea won't work as you hope
Best of luck in future endeavors!
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Yeah, I already made AndRootKit for adb and fastboot gui. But this is a different thing. With this, user installs a program for running special scripts. Like xposed. exactly like xposed framework. Xposed framework runs modules, and there is many module devs... In other words: I want to build a car with not Diesel or Unleaded. I want to make my own gas... who do I build an engine that uses my gas only... And one more thing; I don't wanna make a big project like casual. Just wanna make my "own". Just for fun and maybe it will be a big project...
Edit: Hey, i found this article : http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/376631/How-to-make-your-own-file-type-for-your-Csharp-app . I know c# ok no porblem but that article only teaches how to open a custom file. I'm looking for "how to RUN ( Execute ) a custom file type"... Thanks for your help....
OK guys everything is ok. Just making commands for scripting language. The hardest thing is finding a name
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Yeah, I already made AndRootKit for adb and fastboot gui. But this is a different thing. With this, user installs a program for running special scripts. Like xposed. exactly like xposed framework. Xposed framework runs modules, and there is many module devs... In other words: I want to build a car with not Diesel or Unleaded. I want to make my own gas... who do I build an engine that uses my gas only... And one more thing; I don't wanna make a big project like casual. Just wanna make my "own". Just for fun and maybe it will be a big project...
Edit: Hey, i found this article : http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/376631/How-to-make-your-own-file-type-for-your-Csharp-app . I know c# ok no porblem but that article only teaches how to open a custom file. I'm looking for "how to RUN ( Execute ) a custom file type"... Thanks for your help....
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I don't believe you have made these or that you can code either. If you could then you'd know basics like you can make ANY file executable in linux and android.
Moral - don't try to bull**** a bull****ter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399385 this is thread of androotkit. I know C# and why do you don't belive me?
yashade2001 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2399385 this is thread of androotkit. I know C# and why do you don't belive me?
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Not one report of success with that program of yours from the thread you linked. Not one.
If you can't make flashboot work with sony devices then yeah you can't code. I stand by my statement.
CtrlAltDelIrl said:
Not one report of success with that program of yours from the thread you linked. Not one.
If you can't make flashboot work with sony devices then yeah you can't code. I stand by my statement.
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Come on dude what do u saying? I have no problem with u. And i'm designing my scripting language now...
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Don't worry about the haters, although I do agree that what you're trying to accomplish won't work I hope it does somehow. People should be encouraged to think outside the box
There is such a thing as constructive criticism and then there's being a ****, don't listen to the ****
Keep up the good work and hopefully something pans out, you learn something new even if it doesnt
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Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
asubiyyal said:
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Click on your phone info.
Write down the last 3 digits if your build version.
If it is MJ7 enjoy your Samsung iphone or take the risk of Chinese infiltration with vroot.
If its anything else, type go to GOOGLE.COM and type in those 3 letters followed by the word "Root".
Good luck!
Doesn't get much simpler than that.. :sly:
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
asubiyyal said:
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
k1mu said:
You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
I have MJ7 also and I've looked at root alternatives and it's risky at best. Let me know if you find a less risky way.
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asubiyyal said:
Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
asubiyyal said:
Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
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Perhaps you could post on one of the T-Mobile threads here and explain what "doesn't work" means, as they may be able to help you.
Non-Verizon SIMs work for me, but I'm not using a SIM from some other US carrier.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Sorry if you thinking this is "trolling by a veteran user".
First, you need to understand: the i545 is not SIM locked. Any SIM will work.
However, there's some question as to whether or not that SIM will allow other US carriers to work. Mine works with a SIM that gives me AT&T data. (It's from a European carrier.)
Here's how you can answer your question. First, look at the top of this window.
There's a box on the top reading "Search this forum".
I entered "tmobile" there, then got the following threads:
Tmobile sim and samsung galaxy s4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397984
Does the new MJ7 firmware update block GSM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523307
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478411
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
[Q]OOC Verizon S4 on Tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
Okay I have a vzw galaxy s4 working in tmobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457568
Then, searches for "T-mobile":
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
[Q] T-Mobile on VZW S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464730
VZW Galaxy S4 can it be use on tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447312&highlight=t-mobile
Probably very useful:
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
Using any one of those will connect you with people trying to use their Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
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Haha nice work you guys. I will try and then post in couple of days about the above solutions/links you all have given. Thanks again!
joshm.1219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
Yes it can be done. Basic strps are to get a
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Basic steps are to get a sim.
Then go and see if it picked ip the APN settings. If not you should be able to create a new APN and put in the values manually. Search on xda for the values
Finally. Theres a thread in xda that explains how to download a phone info app. Which will allow you to set the phone radio to LTE/GSM.
last thing you want to check is that you can do wifi, sms, mms, voice mail, etc.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
I really can't explain the purpose of this site any better than this post by Kyphur:
"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
EDIT: P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working. Or maybe I ddnt search the right sections. I'll do XDA search through Google now
asubiyyal said:
I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working.
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I didn't think you were being a rude, but I just thought I would share with you post that explains the purpose of XDA very well. It might seem harsh because it's out of context & was originally directed at some a$$hole.
We were all newbs here, I'm no programmer I just like learning code because I like learning how all of this stuff works. I'm glad you want to start learning to. All I did in the beginning was google search "rooting" and a bunch of write-ups & video's came up that taught me a lot.
I think this all falls under off topic this is really not the place for senior members to try b!+ch slap junior members, staying on topic is how this site operates