I wish the prime would show embedded subtitles on the TV when playing via HDMI. Currently the A/V goes out HDMI but the subtitles still display on the tablet. I emailed the developer of the Dice video player and he said this is device dependent and would need to be fixed by the device manufacturer.
Hey Asus,
Fix the subtitle overlay issue so embedded subtitles are displayed via HDMI.
I wish this first day i bought ATP. I spent 30$ on Hdmi cable that now is useless to me. Only way is software decoding in player's settings, but when playing mkv more than 5gb all is very very bad. The best player than can show subs via Hdmi in software decoding mode is MXPlayer. I manage to play 720p mkv with subtitles and all was smooth.
Someone here said that we want much from a tablet, and if you wish a home HD player buy one like popcorn but that is another 300 bucks
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Hi!
Same here... I got my HDMI cable yesterday, and had to realize, that it's useless for me. I watch everything with subtitles, and with H/W Decoding it's simply a no-go.
Unfortunately, this is not an ASUS problem, but it has to do with the HDMI Mirroring implementation of ICS (some people are reporting, that there was no such problem with HoneyComb?).
I really do hope, that Google fixes this issue very soon (hopefully in JellyBean).
I tried out many-many videos, and the conclusion is, that most files play smooth with a max. resolution of 720p in software rendering mode, but I've had some .mkv files (SD, not HD!) with embedded subtitles which simply stopped after about 30-40min. (MX Player) and I had to restart the movie (fortunately I could seek, so I didn't have to watch it from the beginning).
My conclusion is, that 1080p simply won't work, it's just too much for software decoding to play & downsample it to 720p for the output.
PLEASE GOOGLE FIX THIS!
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Hi!
Same here... I got my HDMI cable yesterday, and had to realize, that it's useless for me. I watch everything with subtitles, and with H/W Decoding it's simply a no-go.
Unfortunately, this is not an ASUS problem, but it has to do with the HDMI Mirroring implementation of ICS (some people are reporting, that there was no such problem with HoneyComb?).
I really do hope, that Google fixes this issue very soon (hopefully in JellyBean).
I tried out many-many videos, and the conclusion is, that most files play smooth with a max. resolution of 720p in software rendering mode, but I've had some .mkv files (SD, not HD!) with embedded subtitles which simply stopped after about 30-40min. (MX Player) and I had to restart the movie (fortunately I could seek, so I didn't have to watch it from the beginning).
My conclusion is, that 1080p simply won't work, it's just too much for software decoding to play & downsample it to 720p for the output.
PLEASE GOOGLE FIX THIS!
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exactly...made my dream to play movies on my HD tv via Prime impossible.. would love this to be fixed in the near future. maybe someone who tried a jelly bean tablet with hdmi could tell us if it works there.
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I recently bought a HD Multimedia Dock in hope to see movies on my phone connected to the tv instead of my computer. Well, of course it wouldn't work so great as I thought it would. Most of the movies and series can't be processed.. well the Movie Player app which came with the Atrix can't handle it either. MoboPlayer have been working, after I've "Soft Decoded" the file. Is there any codecs they will provide us with later? Because this wasn't what I was looking forward to. Also its not totally fullscreen, all the menus are visible around the screen when I'm using MoboPlayer.
I recently push several videos on 720p and 1080p
First I can't play with original player
soo, I installed mobo player,vitaplayer and MX VideoPlayer
All players work....but omg...why?! 15fps?!
really 720p in 15fps?! I don't try the 1080p because obvious always need more processor for decoding
soo, it is caused by software or hardware?!
I have gotten HD playback on my G tablet Honeycomb using Flashback 7.1 overclocked to 1.4 ghz
I got it working by downloading MX video player and its codecs to play videos
I downloaded a bunch of 720p movie trailers, the ones I tried for the youtube video (I'll upload tomorrow, phone is dead) were Avatar (2009) and The Darkest Hour (2011).
Now I know stock g tablet 2.2 can play 1080p hd videos, but the fact is, even if you can play the 1080p movie on the g tablet, that doesn't mean it will have 1080x1920 pixels on the g tablet, it will downscale the 1080p video into the maximum resolution on the g tablet that is 1024x600. That means that it also scales 720p videos. So in reality, its not even worth trying to play 1080p videos on the g tablet.
But as far as playing the video, its acceptable, there is a little choppiness that you can see here and there.
My testing from last Sunday, as well as Edirector's tests in teh Illuminate thread did show that it was possible to play HD video downloaded from Youtube usign software decoding. I tested with Flashback and could play everything he was playing, including the Bluray ruality rips he kept talking about.
What I was able to show was that hardware decoding was still not possible on HC roms, meaning that hardware acceleration was not working, and can not work unless drivers are obtained.
I went back to Calk/Clem Froyo rom and am able to play videos using hardware decoding. the quality is a "bit' better, but nothing to write home about. The difference come when viewing on the TV via the dock. Hardware decoding does improve the picture.
Any rom, with the right video applications can view videos using software decoding. Oveclocking isn't even necessarily needed to do so.
This was why at the conclusion of my testing, I questioned the need for hardware acceleration at all. If the HC and GB roms can watch HD video using software decoding, and the difference with the hardware decoding on Froyo roms is minimal, then why is hardware acceleration the deciding factor when going to an HC rom? For me, personally, it's because I use the dock. Hell, my famly just watched 3 movies today on the TV through the dock...
I just need to find a video player that supports AC3 audio in hardwae decoding mode.
Battery Life
Two main reasons to choose Froyo over GB or HC for the hardware acceleration are that with the HDMI cable and dock if the video isn't hardware accelerated, it looks crappy on the TV. Also, and more importantly, is BATTERY LIFE! Hardware accelerated decoding uses MUCH less battery. So if you were on an intercontinental flight like I was last month, you can hardware decode 4 movies and still have about 35% battery, where as you might be able to squeeze out 2.5 movies using software decoding. To each there own...but I bought the Gtab to watch videos mostly, so I want to use the hardware optimized for it.
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I just need to find a video player that supports AC3 audio in hardwae decoding mode.
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Heck yes! That's the one thing that burns me up...how the Tegra 2 doesn't decode AC3. We need a video player that will hardware decode the video stream, but software decode the audio. Shouldn't be to hard to do right?
i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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Anandtech says it's amazing at playing high quality video. this was an issue for me.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
crap, guess now i have to buy the prime
Plus in the what would you like to know about the prime thread a member already tested this as he has a prime already. It was mkv and 1080p. Played flawlessly. He made a video on it. He has at least 3 you tube vids reviewing the prime hands on.
Check out his videos in that thread n you will see.
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tegra3 has the ability to play high profile 1080p videos, the prime should do just fine with pretty much anything you can throw at it...
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
When someone goes to play with a demo at gamestop, they should take with them a micro sd that has a high profile 1080p mkv and see how that plays on the prime. They should add other video players on the card and install them and see which one plays better with the high profile mkv. Yes I know that reviews have said this or that, but having someone that is not part of any review circle would be grateful to many.
I would do this but I'm not popping my head in that gamestop store after getting that dump.
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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That guy posted two above you. lol
oh hahaha. wasn't paying attention i guess =P
I wonder how Prime will play avi files. I find that playing avi on TF101 is fine but the quality is very bad - I get a lot of artifacts - like it had a grid of dots over it. Probably because players use simplified decoding algoritms? Or maybe it's because Tegra2 lacks NEON? I also think it should be able to send 1080p signal to the screen even if the video is below 1080p (and different than 720p) - otherwise it will be scaled twice - once to 720p by the Prime and second time by the monitor itself - it will probably degrade quality. (well, but on the other hand I can just stick to 720p and 1080p videos which should be great)
Tegra3 does have NEON so no worries.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
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I had this same problem with a 1080p .MOV file off of my DSLR as well as a MKV file. I haven't tried mxplayer, but I will when I get home. I've been looking forward to being able to play MKV files without having to convert or manage with iTunes. Like Sinatra sang, "I'll do it my way!"
somehow I can't copy mkv to my asus prime... it keeps saying explorer error and it restarts the explorer
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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The first three high profile 720p MKV files I tried with BSPlayer worked flawlessly. Same videos will not play at all on my Xoom.
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Will do when I get home. I will also try the same videos on my SGSII for comparison.
My hunch is that the hw decoder refuses to decode the video stream. Perhaps this is controlled entirely by the android system and not the video player app.
Hey guys,
Loving my Prime but I'm finding the video playback hit and miss to be honest.
I'm finding them all very buggy and most of them kick me out of the video randomly even without anything else running.
All of the below run perfectly on my friends Galaxy SII so it may be ICS?
I want to play back XVIDs and MKVs with subtitle support.
Below are the players I've tried and their results:
Google Videos:
Reads MicroSD
Plays MKV (some without sound) but NOT XVID
Doesn't support subtitles
STABLE
Rockplayer
Plays XVID & MKV
No subtitle support
UNSTABLE
MX Video Player Pro
Plays XVID & MKV
Subtitle support
UNSTABLE
MoboPlayer
Plays XVID & MKV
No subtitle support
UNSTABLE
How have you guys been finding video playback on this guy?
I play on using this tablet for a lot of video consumption so I'd love to get this sorted.
Thanks for the help!
Dice Player has been gold for me, playing everything I've thrown at it (720p mkv, avi, mpeg). I haven't tried anything with subtitles, but it supposedly supports them.
There's currently only the ad-supported version available, but the ads are small and don't show up at all should you use microHDMI to display the video on an external screen.
MX video player has worked great for me. Try different encoders if something in your video isn't working well (ie, HW, SW, etc). Also, try re-installing if you think ICS broke it.
Diceplayer is the best I think. Plays everything just fine and have good setting for subtitle.
I watch my videos most with subtitle and i haven't had any problems. Easy to change size and if you long press on the subtitle text you can move it up and down. Also have easy access to change the subtitle sync. And the add only shows when the controls are showing. here You don't see the add when the video plays and the controls and status bar hides.
And if some videos don't play properly i say that the problem often is the video file that is encoded strange.
MX Pro works great for me even on my high profile x264 encodes. SW decoder works better than HW decoder (go figure right? I would have thought the opposite) with fast mode disabled.
Edit: I have to agree with Andreas, if you're having playback issues it's likely the video not the player. Encoding is a subtle art, not everyone gets it right. Get your vids from well known sources like Thora.
Thanks a million guys.
MX Player Pro doesn't support HW decoding on the Transformer Prime. At least on mine it doesn't. Dunno why. And its really flakey. It keep crashing out on any file I try to play (XVID, MP4, MKV)
DicePlayer is WIN so far! Thanks for the recommend!
It's playing everything with subtitles too.
The only thing I don't like about it is the background 'behind' the movie is a gradient from black at the top to grey at the bottom so on some movies you've got a grey at the bottom of the picture instead of it playing on a full black background.
Unless you guys know how I can change that I'll be using DicePlayer until something better comes along.
HURRY UP VLC!
HW decoding technically works on my Prime, but SW decoding performs better. Is the option not even available for you in settings? Free or Pro? Also, no VLC...ever. Just no.
OK!
Very happy to report that after purchasing the full version of MX Player Pro EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT!!!!
Many thanks again guys!
XDA ROCKS!
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Dice Player has been gold for me, playing everything I've thrown at it (720p mkv, avi, mpeg). I haven't tried anything with subtitles, but it supposedly supports them.
There's currently only the ad-supported version available, but the ads are small and don't show up at all should you use microHDMI to display the video on an external screen.
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Another vote for DICE. Hopefully they can get their payment issues sorted out.
Dice is the best IMO. I run huge 1080p files and only Dice can handle it without a hiccup. MX Player Pro has a skip every once and a while. Not that big but Dice doesn't do it so it wins.
VitalPlayer Pro seems to work well. It can't navigate to the MicroSD card though.
BSPlayer has worked well for me. I use the lite version and all is good. It handles all video/audio as well has HW decoding for supported video types.
My vote goes to Dice player. It is the only one that I have tested that doesn't have audio lag when I am using bluetooth headphones. Also it plays everything I can throw at it.
And don't forget to instal mx player codec pack for armv7.. In market too.
MX Player will prompt you if it needs a codec pack installed. In the Primes case it does not, it is good to go.
Since I use and like DVD Catalyst 4 to convert my DVD's to video I also use their video app called Movie Gallery. Not sure if it plays all codecs but it sure works great with my converted DVD's
I used to use VPlayer when it was beta/free but now I use vlc for android http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-09-18/videolan_for_android_pre-alpha
I get my TFP tomorrow but it works on my phone and the OG transformer according to the post so it should work on the prime. NONeon btw at least the OG was NONeon
I sure hope that it does.
video and sound on tv, subtitle on prime
I've tried Dice- and MX player and with both programs I get sound and video on my tv playing avi but the subs will be displayed only on the Prime. Has anyone the same problem or does someone a solution?
Does MXPlayer require an internet connection for the key verification? I saw some reviews that stated it did. Obviously on a wifi only device i may be without internet... Anyone have trouble with this?
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I've tried Dice- and MX player and with both programs I get sound and video on my tv playing avi but the subs will be displayed only on the Prime. Has anyone the same problem or does someone a solution?
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You have to use software decoding if you want soft subs, the hardware decoder on the prime doesn't handle them when outputting.
Hi,
I am playing a 720p mkv movie with subtitles without any problems on the prime using Dice (or BSplayer), but when I connect it to my tv via HDMI, the subtitles just won't display on the tv and stick on the prime's screen!
Is there any way to see the subtitles on tv also? One of the reasons I bought the TF201 was for HD movies on my tv, but since I am watching with subtitles everytime..
If anybody found a solution to this problem, let me know!
Thanks!
I have the same problem, if anybody have solution... please share the knowledge. Thanks
The only solution for now is to reencode the movie with hard subs...aka encode them into the video images. There isn't a player yet that supports the mkv or other style pluggable subs over HDMI.
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The only solution for now is to reencode the movie with hard subs...aka encode them into the video images. There isn't a player yet that supports the mkv or other style pluggable subs over HDMI.
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Actually, that is not entirely correct. It's not the players fault. The subtitles are rendered as a separate layer over the movie, but ICS outputs only the movie stream with H/W Decoding (and the subtitles are on S/W side). This is IMHO a really nasty BUG in ICS. All media players are affected.
There is another way besides "burning" the subs into the movie: play the files with S/W Decoding instead of H/W (most players support this, such as MX Player, Mobo, BSplayer). The downside: S/W decoding is much harder on the CPU, the tablet gets more warm (not to worry), it drains the battery faster. But the worst part is, that with S/W decoding you can play on max. 720p resolution. 1080p (and even some 720p files with a very high bitrate), are simply too much for S/W decoding.