External hard drive - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey, I have the original Samsung USB adapter and I know I can connect USB flash drives, keyboards, mouses, joysticks.... How about an external hard drive? When I connect my 250 GB hard drive the Tab says that is needs high power, but I thought, is there any kernel that allows me to supply high power?
A friend of me told me that he can connect an external hard drive to his iPad 2...

A friend of mine told me I can connect a computer to his Ipad..Oh wait, we can do that already.
Most HDD's that come with 450GB and above already have an attached power supply, the mini HDD's that are 300GB don't need a power supply as it is already been supplied.

Some external hdds with just one usb-connector sometimes need more than 500mA and it looks like the galaxy tab 10.1 just can deliver 500mA (as this is the usb2.0-standard -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB)

Misledz said:
A friend of mine told me I can connect a computer to his Ipad..Oh wait, we can do that already.
Most HDD's that come with 450GB and above already have an attached power supply, the mini HDD's that are 300GB don't need a power supply as it is already been supplied.
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Connect hard disk to phone

What is the price of usb host cable in india-New Delhi ? And how many gb pan drive is supportable ? can i connect 120gb- 320gb hard disk with this phone or not?
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dont u have google ?!?
f.e.
just google "ebay india" and search for "otg samsung"
and it depends on the drive itself, if its a high power device or not...could read the devices description..then you should know, i think
Yes you can install your HDD to the usb host controller.
As long as you can mount it, you can use it.
Most of the common 3.5 inch harddrives should have their own power supply i think. So these should work properly !?
2.5" works as long as you supply the 5V 1A power adapter.

Connecting HD by USB

Hello there,
I have a problem when trying to connect my portable HD (250GB) through USB adapter, it say that is not possible to conncet. I though the problem was the adapter, but not because I could connect a regular USB memory.
Anyone has been this problem, and What was the solve?
Thanks in advance
My guess is that the drive is in NTFS format and not something Android can read, like FAT32.
It's either the file system as mentioned by steckums or the usb adapter doesn't provide enough power for the hard disk to run.
Almost all usb hard disk drives require "high power" from the usb port which the adapter can not deliver. It should say so in the error message. You need a powered usb hub to connect a usb drive to the Tab.
gokpog said:
It's either the file system as mentioned by steckums or the usb adapter doesn't provide enough power for the hard disk to run.
Almost all usb hard disk drives require "high power" from the usb port which the adapter can not deliver. It should say so in the error message. You need a powered usb hub to connect a usb drive to the Tab.
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Thanks for reply, if this is the cause will be imposible to connect my HD? or if I connect a hub to the adapter the HD will works?
Tanks
Yes, the following has been reported to work as long as the HDD is formated to FAT32:
USB HDD - powered USB hub - USB Adapter - Galaxy Tab 10.1
gokpog said:
Yes, the following has been reported to work as long as the HDD is formated to FAT32:
USB HDD - powered USB hub - USB Adapter - Galaxy Tab 10.1
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I'll try it, and report
I tried but didnt work.
I connected the HDD to regular hub and nothing, i never know what is a powered hub. Then a reformat the HDD to FAT 32 and the tablet was not able to start.
The last test was try to connect a powered HDD and this one was reconized by tablet but the oroblem was the format.
In conclusion the problem is the power and the format of HDD.
Thanks for your answers
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Touchpad USB OTG Compatibility List

Thanks to a recent video by reverendkjr on Youtube, we now have a confirmed USB OTG method for CM9.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc7tlPwFQpg
This has lots of potential and since I did not see much talk about it here, I decided to create a thread with what you need to buy listed in reverendkjr's video and what works. I would recommend only buying from Amazon Fulfilled sellers as they are backed by Amazon's return policy. All 3 items only cost a little over $10.
OTG Cable:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005QX7KYU
USB Y Cable:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041CFFBM
2AA Battery Powered Portable USB Power Supply:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M9Z5F6
(Added September 7th)
OTG Cable With Female MicroUSB (Allows you to use any microUSB charger as the power supply)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130740524313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
OTG Cable With Male Full Size USB (Allows you to use any power supply with regular USB port)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-H...i9100-S3-i9300-i9220-i9250-XOOM-/140825132367
You can use whatever source of USB power you want including a wall charger, but I bought the 2AA battery powered supply above and can confirm it works.
Compatibility List:
-Multiple USB devices will work if you use a USB hub. A non-powered one works fine for me since you will already have a separate power source.
-USB keyboards and mice work fine including all basic functions like scroll wheel on the mouse, num and caps lock on the keyboard.
-FAT32 formatted flash drives will mount by default under "/mnt/usbdisk".
(Added September 7th)
-If you want to mount NTFS drives or multiple flash drives, download Drive Mount. This software will mount drives under "/mnt/sda1", "/mnt/sdb1", etc. I can confirm it works for multiple drives and NTFS/FAT32. It was removed from Google Play so the apk has been posted. If anybody has had success with other NTFS mounting software please post your results.
(Added April 6th)
-I tried a Rosewill USB SATA/IDE externally powered hard drive reader and was able to mount a 400GB SATA 3.5" HDD using Drive Mount. Just to see what would happen I tried a SATA DVD drive but Android doesn't recognize it and probably doesn't even support the CD/DVD file system.
(Added April 7th)
-USB card readers will work, but I've had mixed results.
USB Device Info:
If you want to diagnose items and see some info about what the Touchpad is detecting, download USB Device Info free from Google Play. Everything shows up under the Linux tab. This shows some useful info about devices including current draw, device identification, etc. I tested it with a USB hub and a few flash drives and it successfully showed entries for the hub and the flash drives. It wont tell you if Android has drivers for the device, but merely IDs the device(s) confirming the connection if working.
(Added Dec 9th)
A plugged in USB OTG adapter will show up as "Qualcomm On-Chip EHCI Host Controller" under the Linux tab regardless of whether or not power is present. This is a good way to see if you have a working OTG adapter.
Flash Drive Unmounting Issues:
Flash drives are called an SD Card when mounted. There is no option to unmount a flash drive unless you use Drive Mount, so if you notice SD card removal error messages they are referring to your flash drive and not the Touchpad's internal memory partition that is mounted as /sdcard.
When a flash drive is removed or powered off without being unmounted, its common to get a "android.process.media" force close, just tap OK.
Charging:
You will not be able to charge via micro USB while using OTG even if your power source has enough current. You can charge via the Touchstone just fine. Knowing this, you can set up a really nice docking station by using the Touchstone as a stand/charger and then using the microUSB slot for peripherals like a USB keyboard and mouse connected to a hub with spare ports for flash drives, etc.
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Insufficient Available Bus Power Fix:
If you get this error, I haven't yet, some users have had success using this app posted on Rootzwiki.
I didn't feel like buying anything and already had some things laying around so I modified an Adafruit MintyBoost to accept a device via usb, add power, and continue on down the line...
Really all I did was solder a usb cable onto the female USB port on the MintyBoost, drill a hole on the other side of the tin and feed it out. The card reader conveniently fits inside of the mint tin so it's a pretty compact package.
The only down side I've noticed is that it also charges the TouchPad (the batteries will die quicker) and continues to send power to the card reader after the OTG cable has been unplugged from the TouchPad.
Excuse the crappy pic. I really don't feel like taking a better one.
I could never get the OTG cable to charge the Touchpad, I always thought when the Touchpad sensed OTG (grounding on pin 4) it refused to take power. You can disconnect the +5v Vcc to the Touchpad (red wire) on your OTG cable and OTG devices will still work.
spunker88 said:
I could never get the OTG cable to charge the Touchpad, I always thought when the Touchpad sensed OTG (grounding on pin 4) it refused to take power. You can disconnect the +5v Vcc to the Touchpad (red wire) on your OTG cable and OTG devices will still work.
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I came to the same conclusion some days ago ,touch pad can't be charged using org cable,needs a regular micro USB cable and the barrel AC charger.I did many tests but having otg devices working and really charge at the same time its not possible,it seems like charging but its not.
Today I accidentally found this http://direct.sanwa.co.jp/ItemPage/400-GADR002W that by first look it could be awesome...
Edit:a mini review in english http://www.gadget.pdamu.com/2012/03...r-dock-station-for-android-smartphone-tablet/
says that it can be also powered be micro usb charger....
Bummer. Tried linking my phone evo3d, but no luck.
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wolfgr said:
Today I accidentally found this http://direct.sanwa.co.jp/ItemPage/400-GADR002W that by first look it could be awesome...
Edit:a mini review in english http://www.gadget.pdamu.com/2012/03...r-dock-station-for-android-smartphone-tablet/
says that it can be also powered be micro usb charger....
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If its provides its own 5v power it would likely work, but I don't really see anywhere for an external power connection and it looks too small to house a battery.
spunker88 said:
You can disconnect the +5v Vcc to the Touchpad (red wire) on your OTG cable and OTG devices will still work.
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For whatever reason, when I tried that the card reader wouldn't initialize. Once I connected the +5v from the OTG it'd light right up...
After it lit up I could disconnect the +5v and it'd stop the "charging" notification on the touchpad and keep working.
spunker88 said:
If its provides its own 5v power it would likely work, but I don't really see anywhere for an external power connection and it looks too small to house a battery.
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it has the regular usb port to connect otg device plus a micro usb female to connect. our ac charger
wolfgr said:
it has the regular usb port to connect otg device plus a micro usb female to connect. our ac charger
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Then it should work fine as the Touchpad uses a standard OTG pinout, it just doesn't provide power so if it has a way to provide power to devices than I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
quick question that i didn't see answered above :S can i use the otg cable adapter without another power source (like can touchpad power it?)? Saw it asked above but didn't see anyone saying that the power source is required :S
kind of want to plug a usb flash drive into touchpad so I can type documents when I'm on the go and switch to computer. don't want to carry another power source either :S
eyeb said:
quick question that i didn't see answered above :S can i use the otg cable adapter without another power source (like can touchpad power it?)? Saw it asked above but didn't see anyone saying that the power source is required :S
kind of want to plug a usb flash drive into touchpad so I can type documents when I'm on the go and switch to computer. don't want to carry another power source either :S
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No, the Touchpad doesn't provide any power for OTG devices which is why you need to supply it power. The cheap USB charger I linked to in the original post will work fine for a portable power supply if you don't want to build something yourself.
And it also appears you can't just plug the other USB into the wall?
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can someone get a group buy going for these???
spunker88 said:
If its provides its own 5v power it would likely work, but I don't really see anywhere for an external power connection and it looks too small to house a battery.
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This would be fantastic... but i dont speak Japanese!!
mrtomaso said:
And it also appears you can't just plug the other USB into the wall?
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So, we can't just plug it into a wall for power? I have to buy a battery powered unit or use a powered hub?
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Nice and cheap and the best part it works.
USB Hub works...sort of.
I tried this with a cheap USB hub I bought. I had bought it for my laptop and made sure it had it's own power supply to keep the load off my laptop, so I thought it would be perfect for this. Nice try though.
Turns out it needs 5V from the host to activate as well as the additional external power supply. Just fired it up with my TouchPad connected via a Y-Cable and my Laptop providing the 5V to fire it up. Works like a charm.
As yet to find out if it works with my travel charger providing the 5V and no external power supply plugged in, and how many devices I can hook up. It's got 7 ports so I suppose the supply might be useful then, but do I really need to hook up that many devices? Otherwise...pointless. Back to the drawing board I go.
wolfgr said:
Today I accidentally found this http://direct.sanwa.co.jp/ItemPage/400-GADR002W that by first look it could be awesome...
Edit:a mini review in english http://www.gadget.pdamu.com/2012/03...r-dock-station-for-android-smartphone-tablet/
says that it can be also powered be micro usb charger....
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This would be really handy and it's a much more elegant solution than a y cable and external power source.
Too bad it seems like we won't be able to get one easily.
Am i missing something here or can i use my 3.5" external HDD (with a power supply) to provide power to my External so i dont have to plug the cable into a USB hub?
mafu6 said:
Am i missing something here or can i use my 3.5" external HDD (with a power supply) to provide power to my External so i dont have to plug the cable into a USB hub?
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You should, I did this on my Touchpad running CM7. Haven't tried since going to CM9.
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List of HDD that work via OTG

can we have a list of external usb powered HDD that work with the s3 via USB-OTG?
Doesn't seem to work with my buffalo ministation lite, seems not to be supplying enough power.
I have several usb powered external hard drives at home, will post results once my OTG adapter arrives.
lekguan said:
Doesn't seem to work with my buffalo ministation lite, seems not to be supplying enough power.
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no hdd works, just flash drives and card reader with memory cards.
I have a Samsung S2 (?) 2.5" 1tb harddisk that works just fine.I'm quite impressed as both my N8 and ipod2 need a y-usb and an extra power source. It's a neat little thing too.
Seagate working here.
kms108 said:
no hdd works, just flash drives and card reader with memory cards.
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YouTube: nztechfreak
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bordikun said:
Seagate working here.
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Which seagate model, and did you use a external power? Or did the s3 power it up
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My Buffalo HDD works with the SGS3, but my WD HDD doesn't. The WD is powered up, the led blinks and the mechanism is turned on (spinning inside) but nothing happens on the Phone.
Overstraining the phone's power supply can damage the device.
I personally wouldn't risk it.
he WD is powered up, the led blinks and the mechanism is turned on (spinning inside) but nothing happens on the Phone.
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Check if your hard disk is NTFS formatted. Does the kernel support it? (E.G. Siyah does)
d4fseeker said:
Overstraining the phone's power supply can damage the device.
I personally wouldn't risk it.
Check if your hard disk is NTFS formatted. Does the kernel support it? (E.G. Siyah does)
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Both disks is NTFS formatted and yes the kernel does support it.
I bought one of those cheap HDD cases from Amazon a chucked an old 250gb laptop HDD in it and it works perfectly. Its formatted to fat32 as my TV needs that that format to work, also tried various flash drives, wired and a wireless mouse.
I have tried also with two 2.5" HDD's, one Seagate Momentus and one WD Scorpio. They both works, but only with external power supply.
We want a list if HDD that require no external power, just the s3 powering it up by itself
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Kindle not OK with OTG
10076757 said:
can we have a list of external usb powered HDD that work with the s3 via USB-OTG?
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Its not really an HDD, but I can tell you my Kindle doesn't work - I wanted to transfer some pdfs to the Kindle, and, although both devices know there is something connected, they wont talk.
help with usb otg
Shug69 said:
I have a Samsung S2 (?) 2.5" 1tb harddisk that works just fine.I'm quite impressed as both my N8 and ipod2 need a y-usb and an extra power source. It's a neat little thing too.
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can you confirm if you have this drive running of an external power source? i have the galaxy s3, i also have 2 samsung s2 drives both 1tb, and neither of them work, they power up but tell me that my drive is either damaged or blank, however this is not the case as they work fine in my computer, my usb otg cable also seems to be fine as i have various other items hooked up to the phone, is there a hack or am i missing something out, regards.
Same problem with S3 connected to HDD
geordie8t1 said:
can you confirm if you have this drive running of an external power source? i have the galaxy s3, i also have 2 samsung s2 drives both 1tb, and neither of them work, they power up but tell me that my drive is either damaged or blank, however this is not the case as they work fine in my computer, my usb otg cable also seems to be fine as i have various other items hooked up to the phone, is there a hack or am i missing something out, regards.
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Did you solve the problem Geordie ? I have the S3 OTG genuine cable here working with joypad, stick but not with my powered HDD 1TB. Don't know what to do.
maronzet said:
Did you solve the problem Geordie ? I have the S3 OTG genuine cable here working with joypad, stick but not with my powered HDD 1TB. Don't know what to do.
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I got a 500GB WD (no external power) and it works fine. Did you try Paragon from Play Store to mount the HDD?
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chrismast said:
I got a 500GB WD (no external power) and it works fine. Did you try Paragon from Play Store to mount the HDD?
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Hi Chris, the S3 is not rooted, is this maybe the problem ? It works with memory stick, joypad but not with my powered external HDD WD/500 GB and I still don't know why.
HDD compatibility issues with S3
I have 2 HDDs, Sony and Seagate, both of which are 1tb. I did get the clicking sound when connected through a USB hub, but when connected directly, the noise stopped and yet the device wasn't detected. When I tried connecting my friend's HDD (the latest seagate model), I got an error saying "Empty or unsupported content" and there was no option to access it in the file manager( both myfiles by samsung and astro). Please advice.

External USB Drive

Hi,
I have just bought a new Tab and want to use my external hard drive with it. I have the USB connector and a y cable to provide power to the external drive, when I plug in it recognises the drive but says it is blank, the drive is in FAT32 format so should be OK. I have done some searching on Google and can`t seem to find an answer. The drive is a Western Digital 320gb passport.
Can anyone help?
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Tab doesn't support hard drives. Only pen drives
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It should work as long as its powered.
AGREED with @scottx bro (never tried though)
Is there an issue with the partition size as I have seen in the forums for some other Samsung devices they only read up to 64 gig?
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andy1120 said:
Is there an issue with the partition size as I have seen in the forums for some other Samsung devices they only read up to 64 gig?
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maybe it is problem with formatting. lake in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29936599&postcount=3
can you help me please?
is possible to connect a internet usb key with a dongle connector?
sarumans said:
can you help me please?
is possible to connect a internet usb key with a dongle connector?
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According to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666608&highlight=usb+dongle yes
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panariga said:
maybe it is problem with formatting. lake in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29936599&postcount=3
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Yes, needs to be FAT32, not exFAT
harry47 said:
Tab doesn't support hard drives. Only pen drives
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yes it does. i've got it working on my tab 2 and note II.
my drive is 560gb ntfs formatted. The drive needs to be powered and the software app "Paragon NTFS&HFS+" to auto mount the drive.
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Drives are supported
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Hello All, I also confirm that the Drives are supported I also use 1TB Hard drive connected but to achive that I have the Tab2 7" the original samsung usb adapter for OTG then I connect a USB hub with double USB cable one to connect to a usb charger and the another end to the samsung adapter, the I connect the Drive to one of the USB inputs of the hub and you can use the drive ( I have it formatted as FAT32) and I think I can access the hole drive. I have like 500Gb used and at least I can see all the folders I have. I think I also was able to connect other devices at the same time without problems. (Usb mouse and keyboard).
I am not sure if the trick is the USB hub as in my Playstation if I connect the 1TB drive it is not detected but if I connect the hub with the drive then it is detected and had no issue to access it. Probably it is the same for android devices. =S
If someone need to use the hard drive in windows and in the tablet I suggest to prefer NTFS file system..
With PARAGON exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ we can mount hard drive without format it and we can use use as same as a flash drive
For an external hard drive 3,5" we need the wall plug, so we only need to connect the USB through the USB otg adaptor and here to the tablet
If we have a 2,5" hard drive without wall plug there are a few methods:
Use a USB hub with a wall plug and connect it with a Y cable (with this method we can connect other devices like mouse or keyboard)
Use a small USB wall plug and connect it with a Y cable
This two method are the easier but we need a wall plug, I'm trying right now to make small USB battery charger so we can go out and use the hard drive for some hours.
Another solution is to buy an SSD and connect it through a hard disk bay for data to usb interface
With his small amount of current I think it doesn't require a wall plug, but it costs so much for now..

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