First time posting, been reading here for the last year.
Is it even worth it to upgrade to this while not able to get LTE? I'm in Chicago and I dont wanna be stuck with only the cdma 3g again until LTE is deployed here. Anyone know if the EVO LTE will connect to wimax?
I would wait for them to announce it for your city first. I was in chicago last summer and 4g wrked perfect everywhere
Unless your a phone whore(who isnt on XDA) and need to have the latest and greatest. Wait.
Might as well keep some type of 4g(wimax) and wait. Hell, who knows. Maybe by the time you get LTE, there will be something new and magical out. EVO 4G LTE Sandwich Maker(can only wish).
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Unless your a phone whore(who isnt on XDA) and need to have the latest and greatest. Wait.
Might as well keep some type of 4g(wimax) and wait. Hell, who knows. Maybe by the time you get LTE, there will be something new and magical out. EVO 4G LTE Sandwich Maker(can only wish).
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Unfortunately yes I'm a huge phone whore haha.
rocking an evo 3d now on the newest mean rom.
Had an upgrade since January first and it's been killing me waiting for a new phone, but I think I may hold off until the GS3 is announced and see what that has to offer. I'm kinda getting sick of sense and really like the stock ICS look and feel.
Wait for what? The phone is a beast period. LTE is just an added plus. I will be there release day. Was first with Wimax and will be first with LTE, but regardless, im on wifi 90% of the time, and this monster will pretty much be comparable with any phone released the rest of 2012 to me, so im all in.
Wait for LTE to be deployed in Chicago. Mainly just because Sprints 3g is absolutely horrid. Plus whenever our net goes down I love that I can just tether wimax and its plenty fast
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Wait for LTE to be deployed in Chicago. Mainly just because Sprints 3g is absolutely horrid. Plus whenever our net goes down I love that I can just tether wimax and its plenty fast
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Well you will probably find your answer a little closer to launch. I would think by then sprint would have firm dates to when major cities will be getting its LTE turned on.
I'm getting it and then patiently wait for LTE. I have Wimax in my area but I'm mostly on WiFi anyways.
Imurdaddytoo said:
First time posting, been reading here for the last year.
Is it even worth it to upgrade to this while not able to get LTE? I'm in Chicago and I dont wanna be stuck with only the cdma 3g again until LTE is deployed here. Anyone know if the EVO LTE will connect to wimax?
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Chicago is in first round of NetworkVision deployments so LTE should reach the city sooner than others...DONE by October...but youll see improvements wayyy before then as, soon as the clusters are turned on you'll notice incredible 3G speeds hopefully. should be well over 1Mbps easy and sub 100pings...
read this:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
no wimax. forget it exists going forward.
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Chicago is in first round of NetworkVision deployments so LTE should reach the city sooner than others...DONE by October...but youll see improvements wayyy before then as, soon as the clusters are turned on you'll notice incredible 3G speeds hopefully. should be well over 1Mbps easy and sub 100pings...
read this:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
no wimax. forget it exists going forward.
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Cannot wait to forget about wimax... but for now its the only option
Slightly off topic but still somewhat relevant. I know that it took a long time to get Wimax working in CM on the OG EVO. Does anyone know if LTE will be just as difficult? It might not be an issue if the 3G speeds improve drastically with Network Vision. Here in Raleigh, NC 3G has been awful for several months now so I've been living off Wimax and wifi when possible. I'd hate to upgrade to this phone and be stuck on my current download speeds in CM9 (yes I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself lol).
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If you want high dev support, yeah. Remember, this is 2 years after the original Evo so most of those devs will use their upgrade on the Evo LTE. Also, this is supposed to be htc's device of the year. And did I mention it's the first LTE phone on sprint?
So yeah, this phone will have high dev support which is already a reason to get it. If you're still not impressed, remember that the specs on that thing make it a beast.
Worth it.
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Even without LTE support, this is as big of an upgrade as the EVO 4G was to ...uhh...the Hero?
Similar advantage points include but are not limited to:
-bigger screen (4.7in)
-higher resolution (720P)
-better display technology (SLCD2)
-better processor
-better camera
-better software
-true Beats audio support
-"HD Voice" EVRC-NW
-higher capacity battery
-Sprint LTE support (won't matter yet to those who won't have LTE in their area, but still)
It's well worth the investment, especially since WiMAX isn't being worked on anymore
Why would you NOT upgrade? Unless you use WiMAX and LTE won't be available in your area. Other than that, there is no logical reason to stick with the EVO 3D after yesterday's announcement. Even though the EVO 4G LTE isn't that great looking, it blows our phone out of the water in every single aspect of the word.
The EVO 4G to EVO 3D on the other hand, not THAT much of an upgrade.
-Camera quality subjective
-Battery life subjective
-Support is definitely not even close to where the EVO 4G was and here we are nearly a year later
-3D feature subjective
-Missing kickstand
Nothing on the EVO 4G LTE is subjective in terms of being just plain better than the EVO 3D, except maybe the battery life, which has yet to be benchmarked.
my main question is that by the time LTE reaches Chicago will there be something better? b/c I use wimax a fair amount
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Even without LTE support, this is as big of an upgrade as the EVO 4G was to ...uhh...the Hero?
Similar advantage points include but are not limited to:
-bigger screen (4.7in)
-higher resolution (720P)
-better display technology (SLCD2)
-better processor
-better camera
-better software
-true Beats audio support
-"HD Voice" EVRC-NW
-higher capacity battery
-Sprint LTE support (won't matter yet to those who won't have LTE in their area, but still)
It's well worth the investment, especially since WiMAX isn't being worked on anymore
Why would you NOT upgrade? Unless you use WiMAX and LTE won't be available in your area. Other than that, there is no logical reason to stick with the EVO 3D after yesterday's announcement. Even though the EVO 4G LTE isn't that great looking, it blows our phone out of the water in every single aspect of the word.
The EVO 4G to EVO 3D on the other hand, not THAT much of an upgrade.
-Camera quality subjective
-Battery life subjective
-Support is definitely not even close to where the EVO 4G was and here we are nearly a year later
-3D feature subjective
-Missing kickstand
Nothing on the EVO 4G LTE is subjective in terms of being just plain better than the EVO 3D, except maybe the battery life, which has yet to be benchmarked.
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think I have said something close to this before? lol
my 3d does everything i need it to do, I would wait.
I have to say that the back side of the phone is a little ugly, but everything else looks great. Anyone have a decent comparison between the LTEvo and the Galaxy Nexus though? I was thinking of going with the Galaxy Nexus...but after the EVO 4G and 3D...I'm starting to develop some kind of EVO brand loyalty I guess.
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I have to say that the back side of the phone is a little ugly, but everything else looks great. Anyone have a decent comparison between the LTEvo and the Galaxy Nexus though? I was thinking of going with the Galaxy Nexus...but after the EVO 4G and 3D...I'm starting to develop some kind of EVO brand loyalty I guess.
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its on utube......not even close in quality and performance
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sgt. slaughter said:
Chicago is in first round of NetworkVision deployments so LTE should reach the city sooner than others...DONE by October...but youll see improvements wayyy before then as, soon as the clusters are turned on you'll notice incredible 3G speeds hopefully. should be well over 1Mbps easy and sub 100pings...
read this:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
no wimax. forget it exists going forward.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but I am in San Antonio (one of the first 4 cities), and I have checked the upgrade status, and almost all upgrades have been done here, yet I just ran speed test 5 times and the highest I got was 268kbps down. This is pretty much standard here. I think I got over 500kbps once. LTE may be awesome, but I think that the rumors of better 3g are far overblown.
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Itching for a new phone soon, and not happy with Sprint lately, their billing can be whacky, I get a different priced bill every month, even though I am on unlimited, and I have to call Sprint every month to straighten it out.
Plus I am worried that with the recent phone they just showcased yesterday, it is a total turd, and afraid what direction Sprint is even heading ? Will there be an EVO2, no real strong rumors on that yet, just worried the future of Sprint.
Would love to see "Myn's" ROM from the EVO or something close to it come out for the Thunderbolt too. And what about battery life on the Thunderbolt, will be it just as bad as the EVO, due to having both 3G + 4G Radios ? And lastly will LTE be good in Chicago area, better speeds than 4G on Sprint ?
Thanks.
It kind of is as LTE is suppose to be a bit faster than WiMax, plus the lower spectrum is uses, means it can work indoor, and between buildings better.
The processor is also faster due to being 2nd gen. If its like the g2 it will overclockable to up to 2ghz
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Thanks for replies, I will wait a bit.
#1 see if Sprint gives a good indication of an EVO-2 this Summer, should know in March with the big phone show, if it leaks out there. Would hate to ditch the EVO, for the Thunderbolt, then few months later an even better phones comes out in the EVO 2.
#2, By the end of March, the Thunderbolt will be rooted and hopefully have a nice ROM available.
EVO 2 is far from a rumor, though the summer release may not happen. The Dual Core processor + WiMax chipset is giving them help right now. Now to answer your question, the Thunderbolt is definitely an upgrade from the EVO in every way, but it's a battery hog as well. I wouldn't recommend using LTE, if you don't really have to, unless it's for a quick download.
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EVO 2 is far from a rumor, though the summer release may not happen. The Dual Core processor + WiMax chipset is giving them help right now. Now to answer your question, the Thunderbolt is definitely an upgrade from the EVO in every way, but it's a battery hog as well. I wouldn't recommend using LTE, if you don't really have to, unless it's for a quick download.
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I'm not sure how it's going to work yet, but I didn't think we had a choice whether it would be in 3g mode or 4g?
Yeah, same way with the EVO. You'll notice a little lag, when you're switching from lte to wifi, and vice versa.
Yeah I don't think LTE will function like WiMAX at all. Aside from the marketing label "4G" they have pretty much nothing in common.
LTE and wimax aren't even remotely similar. LTE stacks up impressively.
LTE stands for Long Term Evolution, so it will continue to get better with age.
LTE also sports a robust core, and has typically no loss of packets and 20ms latency when switching towers. The network utilizes advanced versions of Node B devices, which are just more capable modules than there predecessors (there are two per tower for LTE standard, and have greater bandwidth handling, as well as continuing support for legacy devices and 3g). LTE doesn't need line of sight, and tolerates MIMO antenna technology on clients.
Unlike Wimax, LTE is true 4G.
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LTE and wimax aren't even remotely similar. LTE stacks up impressively.
LTE stands for Long Term Evolution, so it will continue to get better with age.
LTE also sports a robust core, and has typically no loss of packets and 20ms latency when switching towers. The network utilizes advanced versions of Node B devices, which are just more capable modules than there predecessors (there are two per tower for LTE standard, and have greater bandwidth handling, as well as continuing support for legacy devices and 3g). LTE doesn't need line of sight, and tolerates MIMO antenna technology on clients.
Unlike Wimax, LTE is true 4G.
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So you're saying it is better then WiMax?
Thank you for the explanation...
Much better than WImax
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So you're saying it is better then WiMax?
Thank you for the explanation...
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its WAY better apparently
and also The TB is capable of SVDO which means it wont switch to 1X every time you text and Talking and data at the same time as well
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its WAY better apparently
and also The TB is capable of SVDO which means it wont switch to 1X every time you text and Talking and data at the same time as well
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Yea can't wait to try out the talking and data at the same time, not that I have ever really found a need for it, but hey if you got it...
I have heard that the voice quality will suffer some when using data at the same time which is why VZW isn't promoting it. Don't know how much the quality will degrade or if I will even be able to tell, I'm not much of an audio hound so I don't usually hear drops in quality that much.
Besides them both having a 4.3" screen and kickstand they are completely different devices. It is honestly annoying to constantly hear people compare them due to the aesthetic design similarities.
The ThunderBolt has a unibody aluminum design and great build quality. As others have stated, the ThunderBolt also uses the newest generation of Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs. This 1GHz CPU is not the same as the older generation used in the EVO, it is an entirely different beast. The latest Snapdragons are more efficient and the clock speed being the same means nothing.
The TB also has more RAM than the EVO, Verizon 4G LTE (not WiMAX), and Dolby Audio onboard behind the kickstand. Finally, the TB includes a 32GB microSD card preinstalled.
Any other comparisons simply boil down to looks and similar design style. The devices themselves are not the same.
Let's not forget DLNA. I think it's a great feature that will future-proof the Tbolt for awhile.
ahh...so glad I didn't know about this phone sooner, as I'd have been dying while waiting...I just started checkin the phone forums a week or so ago for the first time since last fall due to finding out about a surprise upgrade on our account due the end of january..this week or 2 wait sucks, I cant imagine finding out about this months ago...
There's a video comparison of the TB and Evo on Wirefly.com. The TB is roughly 2x faster than the Evo.
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Let's not forget DLNA. I think it's a great feature that will future-proof the Tbolt for awhile.
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DLNA is on the DroidX also.
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The ThunderBolt has a unibody aluminum design
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I have heard this stated here and on other forums. I heard it in one of the video reviews (maybe the unboxing one). However, I have seen no substantiation of this. There are 3 reasons why I doubt is it actually unibody. 1 From the limited views inside the device it does not appear to be. 2. It clearly has a thin plastic back cover. 3. It would be a fairly radical design and manufacturing departure for HTC. It certainly would be a cool Apple-ish feature. I'm keen for some further evidence of this. Let us know if you have anything.
It's not an evo, why can't people get that throw their heads. Just because it has a 4.3in screen, froyo, and and made by htc people think it's an Evo. If using want to compare it to something compare it to the Desire HD maybe. Evo was not even the first 4.3in htc phone that was the hd2. The Evo a great piece of hardware and still is but the htc thunderbolt is something fresh in my opinion. The tb only shares 3 things with the evo screen size, os, and manufacture. I personally loved the evo it, for its size, speed, and functionality. I have my htc thunderbolt pre ordered.
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I'm sold on the Evo 3D but I don't know whether to move over from T-Mobile and go with it now (freedom from contracts), or to wait for the GSM version whenever it comes out?
Pricing aside (I know there are porting credits for new customers and other subsidies) I'd like to get some thoughts from people who use Sprint service with the device.
I'm not looking to start a flame war or anything, I just want to know what made you decide to go for it and whether a GSM version would have been more convincing?
If price has anything to do with you decision,I think Sprint is cheaper.
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I would go with sprint! they have great customer service, unlimited data, pretty good coverage, and you dont know when the evo 3d will work on t-mobile either. i would say sprint would be a good choice!
its really all relative to where you need it to work at. If your in a good tmobile area its great. hspa+ is crazy fast.
I just switched back to sprint (3 days ago) because of cost and too many dead zones with tmobile. I work at Chase so we get a hefty discount. But tmobile worked ok for me as long as I was in the inner city.
Now, I WILL say this. GSM hs(d)pa throughput hammers sprints 3G. Its always on, data speeds are crazy fast. The phone handles any network changes on the fly. Sprints 3G has been pretty bad lately. I averaged with poor service on tmobile (keep in mind I am in a hs(d)pa market), at least 2 megs down and with good service upwards of 7-8mbps. With sprint 3G im lucky if i get 500kbps.
Now to match apples with apples, Sprints 4G can be fast as hell too. with a good signal, i can get 8-11mbps. The problem is the building penetration of it due to the high frequency of wimax SUCKS. The other inherent problem is battery drain. Having the wimax radio on murders the battery. Where as tmobile phones the "4G" radios do comsume more power, but not to the effect of wimax handsets. A plus side to sprint is the data transfer isnt throttled when you hit 2gigs. You get full speed data no matter how much data you have used. (in most cases)
The other thing I dislike is if my phone loses the 4G signal, the wimax radio goes into a "sleep" state after so long, and you have to manually pull down the notification shade to tell it to scan for 4G networks again. Happens on all of the HTC Sprint 4G devices. I had the epic before (samsung) and 4G switching happened on the fly, sort of like tmobiles phones do.
I would go for it tho, if Sprint works in your area then to hell with it why wait?
Just be aware that Sprint is getting the Galaxy s2 within the next month or two...so Id defintely say wait a little bit to see both and see which one you like more.
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In my test with tmobile they got better 3g whenit works I do have more drop calls in tmobile and almost none on sprint, but if I would have to get tmobile I would definitely go with the sensation really nice phone evo 3d brother and the. Only thing is the it has less ram and no 3d which I could live with
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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In my test with tmobile they got better 3g whenit works I do have more drop calls in tmobile and almost none on sprint, but if I would have to get tmobile I would definitely go with the sensation really nice phone evo 3d brother and the. Only thing is the it has less ram and no 3d which I could live with
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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i agree, I would prefer the sensation over the 3d because its slimmer and doesnt have the extra screen layer, so it looks like the images jump right off the screen. not downing the the 3D at all, but i would have preferred the sensation. Im never going to use the 3D stuff
Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Official no
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Ah, I meant T-Mobile USA. There is a European GSM EVO 3D model coming possibly in September or soon after. Part of the reason I am interested in waiting is that I do enjoy my current T-Mobile USA plan--no contract. I switch phones every few months and it's been a really long while since there's been a phone that's kept me interested long enough to want to sign a contract.
Here's a link to the Rogers version of the GSM model (850/1900/2100 3G bands) and the UK Amazon version of the GSM model (900/AWS 1700/2100 UMTS bands; Sept 12 due date).
I really appreciate all of the thoughts you guys (and gals?).
Clearwire says that, while they aren't abandoning wimax, they plan to add LTE Advanced technologies to their existing infrastructure. LTE Advanced, or "true" 4G according to the original 4G designation, allows for download speeds of over 100Mbps.
Not sure how they plan on affording it, but more power to them. I'd love to have a phone, and 4G network, that would download at speeds that high
http://www.androidcentral.com/clearwire-announces-plans-lte-advanced-network-still-committed-wimax
beat yea by 1 min
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201167
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beat yea by 1 min
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201167
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Hahahaha, that's what I get for thinking about what I wanted to write...
would the evo 3d pick up LTE or is it wimax only?
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would the evo 3d pick up LTE or is it wimax only?
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Wimax only, I'm pretty sure.
I hope they still plan on upgrading to WiMAX 2, that we will actually be able to take advantage of. If they do that and widen the channels like they were talking about we could get speeds that are close to those of LTE Advanced.
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I hope they still plan on upgrading to WiMAX 2, that we will actually be able to take advantage of. If they do that and widen the channels like they were talking about we could get speeds that are close to those of LTE Advanced.
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I hope so too. Just wondering where Clearwire is getting the money to do all this. I could have sworn that they were broke.
Clearwire is heading towards TD-LTE, later upgrading to LTE-Advanced. They are not immediately going towards the latter. Clearwire also didn't chose to use Sprint's Network Vision, short reason being negotiations tactic. Smart move though without Sprint's funding, they are not deploying this network. That subliminal jab at LS shows that they are tight about that move, so the saga continues.......
On the 2.5 frequency...smh what a waste.
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On the 2.5 frequency...smh what a waste.
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Yeah, it makes me think that the desire for "LTE" is for nothing more than marketing...cuz WiMAX and LTE on the same frequencies will yield nearly identical results in practical application. I'm a bigger fan of the WiMAX protocol since it's essentially a burly version of WiFi which itself is a very mature protocol...though in everyday use (on the same frequencies, mind you) they have essentially the same results....I'm sure high-up tech guys at Clearwire (and Sprint for that matter) know all about this...and I'd hate to think that management-bloat is so pervasive at such large companies that technical merit would lose out versus some marketoid who thinks that LTE (regardless of implementation) is obvious the thing we need--even if for nothing more than the ability to say the letters L, T and E in advertising.....but perhaps I'm being idealistic.
...but it sure seems like that. WiMAX on Verizons spectrum would spank the **** out of LTE on Sprint/Clearwire's spectrum....the protocol is nearly a moot point...but that really seems lost on these people. I mean, even as a stop-gap measure this seems utterly pointless except for marketing...
This is bullsh** for me. I just bought 3vo and its wimax and I have 4g no where near me! doubt ill ever see the good 4g life. And I live in metro detroit! Verizon has 4g everywhere!
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This is bullsh** for me. I just bought 3vo and its wimax and I have 4g no where near me! doubt ill ever see the good 4g life. And I live in metro detroit! Verizon has 4g everywhere!
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There is no "good 4g life".... Sprint has 4G everywhere but it can barely make it across the street...
4g is basically useless around Detroit.
Evo3D
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There is no "good 4g life".... Sprint has 4G everywhere but it can barely make it across the street...
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I have had the epic since it came out, bought this retail. And still no 4G around me at all! No where near me! Its all the way up in Grand Rapids! There is absolutely no 4G in michigan! I doubt they will have 4G where I live by end of year. And where I live everyone has sprint or verizon! A lot of sprint users! And verizon has 4g lte everywhere around me! they have it everywhere in michigan too! I read sprint has like 68 wimax markets in usa, vzw has more just in MI. SMH sprint, smh!
If people can't tell the difference between WiMax limit of 5MHz, to Clear using 20MHz towards their LTE, then this conversation is dead in the water. It's no comparison when it comes to speeds, and I was already a witness to their real life speeds. Indoor signal should be a little bit better, but 2.5MHz is 2.5MHz. As of right now, Sprint and Clearwire only have a deal on the table for WiMax, which isn't moving. They are not a part of Sprint's Network Vision, so this news doesn't have nothing to do with Sprint and it's subscribers. Sprint is still the only one who didn't officially announce the switch to LTE, and they are dealing with a broke company who can't fend for themselves. They need to completely buy Clearwire before it's too late.
Can someone tell me why should I buy a phone that might not even see LTE by the time my 2 year contract is up. Are we all suckers?
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so you're coming from Verizon
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That has got to be the creepiest thing I have ever seen! :shudder:
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Can someone tell me why should I buy a phone that might not even see LTE by the time my 2 year contract is up. Are we all suckers?
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I preordered from sprint... I'm starting to rethink my decision because we won't have lte until 2013ish.
My evo 3d is running ICS now, sprint ICS next month, I have 4g now in columbus, ohio.
I really want the bigger brother of my 3d but no lte prolly within the next year for me is making me mull over my decision.
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I'm supposed to have 4g all over the san francisco bay area, but usually its sketchy at best especially indoors, and i'm indoors a lot so most of the time i'm on 3g anyway. Its a great phone on its own and while i will admit buying a phone that works with a network that isn't live yet sounds a little strange, there were a lot of people that did that with the original evo, myself included, and i never regretted it one minute.
Not sure if you're trolling or not, but i think its important to look at the whole picture instead of basing the decision of whether or not to get this phone based on when LTE is coming. If you don't care about LTE, then no, not a sucker at all. If you do care and think its a big deal but still buy the phone, then yes, definately a sucker.
LTE is not the determining factor for me. Phone functionality > speed. I have WiFi if I need it and I'm content with 3G speeds. Beverages been a problem before.
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shook187 said:
Can someone tell me why should I buy a phone that might not even see LTE by the time my 2 year contract is up. Are we all suckers?
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Yes you all are.
shook187 said:
Can someone tell me why should I buy a phone that might not even see LTE by the time my 2 year contract is up. Are we all suckers?
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As was stated ealrier, I bought my Evo 4G before wimax was ever deployed in my area. I live most of my life on 3g anyways. I look at this as a great upgrade from my current EVO. So to answer your question do I feel like a sucker. Nope. I am very happy to pay to have a great phone.
Will
glad i live in nyc
we shall be getting LTE pretty soon
I have 4G now and can count the number of times I actually turned it on and used it on 1 hand..Doesn't matter to me....seems like the whole 3D thing to me.I only turned it on just to show somebody or just see if it works.
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glad i live in nyc
we shall be getting LTE pretty soon
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How soon is soon? Did sprint tell you that? I'm in Boston and like New York we both have Wimax, and I see no reason why Sprint would deploy LTE in those markets.
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Well I live in Puerto Rico and here we don't have Wimax and it has been 2 years since Wimax Coming Soon, so I'm really thinking about buying it or not, a lot of people don't care about 4G but really think about 2 years you will end up lock up of Sprint never give us LTE.
I think I will wait a little longer, maybe if they release a white version they convince me LOL
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suckers? Not a chance. Sprint bet upon WiMAX, but LTE became the standard and now we have a beast of a device coming out in seven days. Granted it will take some time to build out the LTE network and complete all the network vision upgrades but it'll all be worth it in the end. You know the saying "Good things come to those who wait", yeah, its coming. I have no problem owning a phone with no LTE network, because I know my city/state will be getting it within the very near future.
I think just for the camera, the bigger screen, the thinness, internal memory, Ice cream, and a kickstand to boot. I am no sucker! Who needs LTE anyway. I still don't have 4G for my EVO 3D
Don't call me a Sucker, Sucker!
I mainly preordered cause im eleigible for upgrade and one of the two LTEVO i will be getting soon will be free. Sure ill miss WiMAX cause i tether my tail off when i have the time but thats part of the reason im keeping an OG Evo just in case. I considered switching to another carrier but sprint, although slow ATM, has been decent to me price wise and i dont have to worry as much as i would, and have, with any of the others.
my EVO 4g was a 4g phone but i NEVER got to use 4g in my 2 years with it. all well. Guess im a sucker! on to the LTE to never see LTE! woo!
If you read Engaget's or Cnet's review, they'll make you feel like a sucker.
But I don't, and here's why:
1) Live on the outskirts of DC, Baltimore side. LTE will be turned on very soon in Baltimore (End of May) and DC will be following shortly.
2) I had 4G on my Evo 4G and never used it in two years except for experimental purpose. It heated the phone, drained the battery, etc. Wifi and 3G packed a powerful punch better than turning off and on the 4G radio.
3) I know people with Verizon 4G LTE phones and they also have their 4G turned off because it also doesn't really work in buildings and overheat their phones.
So in short, if you have multiple wifi access areas w/ 3G, this is still a beastly phone. LTE is just one facet of it.
Not all of us. Some of us will be in LTE areas. However, if it is that important to you, don't get a 4G phone till you have 4G in your area and show Sprint you aren't a sucker. The phone is awesome without 4G.
Sprint visioned this phone release incorrectly. They either needed to a) leave the 4G LTE out of the phone title's (that would solve a lot of complaining) or b) released this phone with the announced turn-on of their LTE service.
My dad got the Evo LTE through the pre order, but decided because of the lack of 4G and the internal battery he is going to return it. I have been playing with it for the past few days, waiting for Sprint to send a return box. After running it through usage (although I could not use 3G) it seems like it would handle how I use it...the only thing holding me back is 3G/4G. I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and have amazing WiMax signal, but Sprints ****ty 3G (around .2 up, .01 down). So my question: Should I wait it out for LTE? Considering we got WiMax fairly fast, I believe that LTE should get to Chicago and the surrounding areas within a year...but I do not know if I can survive on 3G that long. How have you guys held up on only 3G? I own the 3D now, and actually use 4G a lot.
If you use 4g a lot then I suggest you then don't even bother considering this phone.
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My dad got the Evo LTE through the pre order, but decided because of the lack of 4G and the internal battery he is going to return it. I have been playing with it for the past few days, waiting for Sprint to send a return box. After running it through usage (although I could not use 3G) it seems like it would handle how I use it...the only thing holding me back is 3G/4G. I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and have amazing WiMax signal, but Sprints ****ty 3G (around .2 up, .01 down). So my question: Should I wait it out for LTE? Considering we got WiMax fairly fast, I believe that LTE should get to Chicago and the surrounding areas within a year...but I do not know if I can survive on 3G that long. How have you guys held up on only 3G? I own the 3D now, and actually use 4G a lot.
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This is a question only you can answer. I rarely use data on the run. I'm usually around WiFi, so I can easily handle it. I've been on 3g only for a long time, since I was constantly flashing ROMs on the OG EVO that were without 4G. So this is the same experience for me.
I'm near Chicago, and I too believe we'll get LTE pretty quick. I am excited about it, but this phone is totally worth a lack of 4G to me. It's incredible. The screen, processor, camera, and other things are really impressive. And it's gorgeous!
In the end, it's your personal needs that must decide whether it is worth it.
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I think Chicago is actually one of the first round cities to get LTE.
A great place to find out about Sprint's network is http://s4gru.com
A quick search returned this article:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
Thanks for that article! It looks like mine should be "deployed" around June. I'm actually typing this from the phone ya know what? I'm going for it.
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I'd start with removing the proxy in the ##3282# screen. That helped me with slightly better speeds. That aside, as others above have pointed out, lte is coming to chicago very soon.
I was in louisville this weekend. Did a speed test on 3g at 7am this morning. 2.4mb down and about 900kb up (bit, not bytes). Pretty impressive and does go to show just how badly the 3g data in the chicago area sucks.
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Thanks for that article! It looks like mine should be "deployed" around June. I'm actually typing this from the phone ya know what? I'm going for it.
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Seems like a fair bet to me. My wife loves it and I'm jealous. I have the GSII and love this phone. My upgrade is in 3-4 months and I'm not sure if I'm going to 1; keep my current phone and use my upgrade to make some cash, 2; use my upgrade to get the EVO LTE or, 3; use my upgrade to get the GSIII. We'll see I guess.
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