Hello,
I have been considering to make a setup for a music jukebox fed by a NAS HDD. There are quite a lot of dedicated product for multimedia player, but they all require a display to browse the NAS files (except the squeezeBox touch, wich looks almost like what I would like to have, but requires proprietary soft, not working with any NAS).
Basically, I want to manage music for my living room, but I want to keep any display away as much as possible.
So I thought that a kind of small tablet could do the job.
Requirements :
Acces to the NAS via network, preferably via ethernet.
Stereo output (any kind even if digital is prefered).
Small display 7 inch ok, 10 inch maximum (I don't want any angry birds invasion).
Cool file browser, preferably with music management (artist, style, album tags... CD cover if available).
I discovered that Archos made cool tablet and that OS may be hacked, so I can expect to find a good rom for this kind of use (or may be cook my own, though I don't look forward this)
More of all, you can find cheap Archos 7.0 home, Arnova... devices.
So now I think the best is to ask to those who already know the more about the device (and I would apreciate any advice for I might need something else).
So far I know there are no decent android tablet with ethernet port (I'd rather not have to rely on WiFi), but may be there are some adaptor.
Thank you for reading. More thangs to come for those how will take time to answer.
Not sure exactly what you want but it sounds like you should look at MPD, the Music Player Daemon. I set it up on my file server (a linux box, not a NAS) and there are android clients for it that let me control it from anywhere I get wi-fi. I've also seen MPD run on openwrt devices too... google "mighty ohm wi-fi radio" for more.
Thank you Jimmy,
Indeed, I found some soft that could do the job. I guess you recommend this project. Sounds like very promising.
In fact I have more question about the hardware. I don't think the Archos 7 home provide any kind of ethernet port even through an adaptor. So I'll need to set up WiFi (I don't use WiFi at the moment, for I prefer wired solution). I discovered that it is possible to hack the Archos tablets, but I don't know for now what are the gen8 and gen9. I suppose that Archos 7 home are g8, but not sure for now.
May be should I consider some other hardware issue, but since I only intend to read music I suppose the archos 7 home should have enough CPU power.
Another alternative seem to be an Archos9PC, but first it is more expencive, then it runs Windows I really don't know.
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
Gen8 ( 8th Generation ) is the Archos 70 Internet Tablet.
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
The Gen8 has UPnP directly in the Firmware and the std Musikplayer allready has an option to use the "normal" twonky ( or whatever is running on your NAS) Server.
You can use a OTG Cable and a USB-Ethernet adapter, but Wifi is alot easier.
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You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
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Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
fzelle said:
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
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Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
ZeGuido said:
Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
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I suggest as I do. Run NAS with the DLNA. Setup a western digital hd media player to your audio/video system. Use the "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all. I use this method and am able to play content from the NAS to the WDHDTV or straight to the tablet or vise versa... from tablet to WDHDTV... bubble does it ALL.... if you want video too...HD video maybe? Use a PC/Linux or some Box to run TVMOBILI on your box and have it index the NAS instead of the built in NAS Dlna... it is better Dlna server and supports MKV without transcode... and also supports AllShare (Samsung TV protocol) so you can just use your Samsung TV as your player instead of WDHDTV player... I have all 5 things running now and I have many options in my media arsenal
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I suggest as I do... "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all
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Looks like the kind of app I'm looking for. Thank you Josh.
I do NOT want anything but music, for I 've banned TV and internet from the living room. (TV and net have dedicated place). I don't want to set up a LinuxBox either (I'll probably do that for the HDTV in another place, but one thing at a time).
So the questions are :
-Would an Archos 7Home be good enougth for that ?
-If yes, is it possible to change the ROM of the Archos 7 home for a homecooked optimized rom ?
-is there somewhere an option (as for Archos9PC) to cradle the archos 7 Home whit a ethernet port (to avoid Wifi) ?
Finally, considering the NAS working along with bubble upnp, is it required to install some soft on the NAS and are there some kind of incompatibility (that's one of the drawback I see with the logitech squeeze box touch)
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Hi All,
My dream, one that I hope Android can help me fulfill is to hook my Galaxy S2 to a HDMI tv, fire up remote desktop and by using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, effectively have a full desktop available.
I am yet to try hooking up my phone to a tv as I am waiting for the MHL cable, but issues I envisage are the following:
1) When the screen is mirrored on the TV, the RDP program will not use the TVs display show 'full screen'. I have installed some RDP applications and they allow you to select the resolution so perhaps this will resolve the issue
2) Are there any RDP applications that allow bluetooth keyboard and mouse entry?
This is the hold grail for me!! Many a time I have stayed in a hotel for work or holiday and not had my laptop with me and wished for such a solution. Combine this with Wake On Lan and it's perfect!
I hope someone can help!
I can't believe i'm the only one that wants something like this to work!
RDP programs should just take any inputs from your phone and pass them onto the remote machine so BT kb/m should work ok IMO. Not sure about the mirroring but if it is fullscreen on the phone then maybe the MHL cable will upscale for the TV.
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RDP programs should just take any inputs from your phone and pass them onto the remote machine so BT kb/m should work ok IMO. Not sure about the mirroring but if it is fullscreen on the phone then maybe the MHL cable will upscale for the TV.
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I'm waiting for the cable before I can try. In fact I would have had it by now but my girlfriend wants to buy some stuff for me for my bday and I believe she's already ordered it!
I should get mine tomorrow and I'll try it out.
Thanks! I'll check back on thread!
I've been doing some reading around and have found that BT keyboards and a mouse will work no problem.
I tried my MHL cable with the Android VNC viewer app and allows you to fit to screen but does not output at the tv's native res.
I have had similar experience with Remote RDP, it just mirrors the phone's native resolution. Hopefully this kind of thing will be supported soon, including internet browsing at 1080p.
Thanks guys, that sux!
I still haven't received my cable so I can't try for myself, but have you managed to make it work to a workable output on the TV?
would be interesting if we could port some parts from the atrix (webtop) over to this phone. I actually enjoyed that feature.
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would be interesting if we could port some parts from the atrix (webtop) over to this phone. I actually enjoyed that feature.
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Perhaps, this kind of program may help to format the resolution?
Am I missing something? If you got a bt keyboard and bt mouse and the phone to tv hdmi, don't you have it all? Why would you need a remote desktop or vnc software?
Well, you'd have it all except for USB, which you might be able to live without.
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Am I missing something? If you got a bt keyboard and bt mouse and the phone to tv hdmi, don't you have it all? Why would you need a remote desktop or vnc software?
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If it could pump out the full Remote Desktop resolution then you will effectively have a full desktop through your phone rather than just have the phone's software capability.
Fair enough you can surf the web and play a video but what if I want to use full excel or Word, and multi-task like on a desktop.
I've still not received my cable so I don't know whether the browsing the net with the phone's browser is legible on a big screen.
In my earlier post I complete missed off the applications name - LCD Density - haven't tried and I don't know if it's compatible with the SGSII, but sounds like it changes the native resolution of the phone.
Try Splashtop as your vnc app it is the only one to my knowledge that can stream audio almost perfect and video pretty good over vnc and works like a charm on the atrix.
Did you find a good BT keyboard that works well with the Evo? I'd prefer one with a built in trackpad, as my goal is to use this on the road (ie, airports, trains, etc), and would like to have an all-in-one keyboard/mouse.
The one thing that I haven't had time to tinker with have been HDMI goggles that can give a virtual display. Has anyone tried these w/ the Evo's mini-HDMI output?
I don't have an Archos but I have a Galaxy 10.1, Asus Transformer, and a Galaxy S phone. I have been trying to figure out how to strap the 10.1 to a headrest and remotely play movies for my son in the back seat and I'm hoping the Archos software would be the key.
Has anyone ripped the Remote Control Server APK from this rom to be used in other tablets/phones. The controller is on the market but the server side is not
Or if someone knows a way to do this that would be great. (Note: DLNA is nice but its a full PUSH and what I want to do is control the media already on the tablet, or use the Sprint 3g on the 10.1 to stream netflix.
I have tried Server VNC for droid, and it breaks on tablets.
Thanks for all your help!
Maybe someone with an Archos and another Android device can analyze what is sended by the other device to the Archos (Wireshark for example)
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Maybe someone with an Archos and another Android device can analyze what is sended by the other device to the Archos (Wireshark for example)
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I am fairly sure this is not an APK, as sin not a simple app. it is a service baked into the system code of the ROM. This kinda of app is not overtly simple to add to android even IF you had all the source to the ROM, which no one does for HC yet.
The only problem is to know what is said on the network. After that, creating the app to communicate with it is "easy".
Am i to understand that you want to stream video to Archos from your Asus/Samsung ?
No, he wants to control his expensive Samsung 101 via a remote.
Something that comes included with any cheap Archos Gen8 ;-)
Expensive
Yes, its more expensive then the Archos but its 3g via Sprint. So I can stream, check email, watch IP cameras for restaurants that I am responsible for. But when traveling with the kids its nice to put in a headrest strap and control it.
Right now my son who is 3 will either tap the screen and freak out because the movie stopped playing, or if he is holding it he ends up stuck in some app. This will allow my wife or myself to start other movies, netflix streams, etc..
Headrest monitors for cars are not cheap (unless you get some really poor generic ones) and once the kids hit 5 years old they will not want to watch a linear movie, they would want to watch and interact with the web. (Humm or maybe I'm the biggest kid in the equation )
Right now I can DLNA push a video to the tablet using BubblePNP (Works great) but its annoying when my phone wifi sleeps or phone calls seem to mess with the connection. Remote control will keep each device truly separate. How many times I have walked out of the car to get gas out of range of the DLNA sharing is annoying.
Here you go...
I Hope this is what you are looking for...
Ripped out...Have Fun!
He doesn't need the remote, he needs the receiver for the Samsung.
I saw the words "remote" and "software" in the OP.
Yes, but he's searching the server side of the remote software ^^
Looks like the best way to get the Archos remote server app is to unpack Archo's firmware and take the server app out.
I found some linux tools that can do this, e.g. using aos-tools
However, my linux skill is only novice level at best, so I don't think I can unpack it successfully and find the remote server app.
Anyone happy to give it a try and share the file?
I see the instructions to unpack can be found here: http://archos.g3nius.org/index.php?title=The_aos-tools_Toolchain
I was looking for such app and Archos seems to the the only company which have a Android remote app right now... I am interested to install the remote server app on my Android phone or tablet and see if it works.
for control the tablet from an android phone you can use DroidMote Server / Client in the android market.
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I have a Android based tablet(junpad, like flypad) that i have as a spotify player.
Now i woundering if ther is any apps that make it possible for me to use my galaxy s or laptop as a remotecontrol to change track etc, etc. have looked at Remote Web Desktop but i cant control spotify through that. And DroidMote Server does not work on the tablet for some reason.
So, is there any aps out there that fits me?
I can connect a wireless usb mouse to the tablet, but how cool is that? Would be nice with a app or something
No one knows anyting that can work?
I'm gonna drudge this up instead of starting a new thread. Same question. I would like to control Spotify from my Galaxy Tab 10.1 with my Galaxy S III...
... also same questiion....
Did you get any further with this?
It would be great if Spotify could enable an option to play music on any other device (with the same user registered).
My best solution so far is with Spot Commander; an android application which controls a spotify server on a Linux netbook.
But I'd prefer to use an obsolete Android phone - since it would use much less power - also in stand-by. Another idea - perhaps the spot commander server application (which is Open Source) could be ported to the Raspberry Pi.
Media Remote
Media Remote by appshroom works but is pretty limited.
Hey folks,
Sorry to kick up an old thread, but I was Googling around to find the answer to the question posed above and I thought maybe answering this thread would help the next guy. It seems that if you want to control Spotify on Android from another Android, you can do so using DroidRemote. The downside to doing it this way is that it uses bluetooth.
I'd really prefer a way to do it via WiFi as its' range is higher and I don't have to turn on the bluetooth radio just for this purpose, which in turn consumes my precious mAh's. It'd also be dandy if I could use my Windows box to control Spotify on Android.
This Galaxy Tab 2 will do nicely as a Spotify player but controlling it remotely would be even more boss.
Hello,
Is there any new solution to remote control Spotify on tablet from a phone ? Is there no tweak available or mod ? Even if you root your phone / tab ?
Regards.
Tamatea said:
Hello,
Is there any new solution to remote control Spotify on tablet from a phone ? Is there no tweak available or mod ? Even if you root your phone / tab ?
Regards.
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I second this question.
I have a small Minix as my spotify player connected to my TV and surround system. I have been searching forever for a solution that will allow me to control the Minix spotify session from my Nexus7 Tablet.
Any suggestions? Please!!!!!
/Desperate!!!!!!
Omg, Is there any way to use the Windows Home Server ( WMC ) with this tablet?
I am able to connect from tablet to pc I can play the music I have stored on my harddisk so thats not the problem but I don't see my tablet quite frustrating,
Because my pc doesn't have the VAiO Server it isn't able to stream music by one click also my XBOX360 can not be used in that order,
PS3 - yes ofcourse that works for me vice versa Duuh Sony system.
Sony Experia S - Again no problem again duuh Sony system.
Samsung Galaxy S2 - a little weird but it is working but not worth it.
Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1v - Not working but thats not necessary.
I am not an idiot I know what I am doing, but this just seems to be unaccesable
From Normal Windows 7 64x Home server Pc to VAiO Server Sony Tabet S
I know it sounds rediculous to connect Sony with Microsoft but after all a VAiO Laptop does run on Windows to
This is getting annoying >> Please dont mind my English
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I'm honestly not sure what's going on since I'd never even heard of Vaio server. To provide an overview that might help:
DLNA is a universal protocol implemented by many modern products and is not a Sony-specific thing (although Sony had a big part in designing it). When using DLNA, a device is usually considered a server, player (aka renderer) or controller but many devices combine these roles. For example, the Sony is both a renderer (when using the DNLA app) and a server (when using the Music app's Throw function for example).
What I think you were saying is that you can't play the media stored on your tablet from your WMC. If this is the case, it's because the Tablet S's DLNA implementation is on-demand. From the device, you need to open a video or song in Sony's Video Player or Music app, and then choose the Throw option. From there, any of your DLNA renderers on the network should appear as an option. If you want to be able to browse your Tablet's content and play media directly, try installing something like iMediaShare on your Tablet.
Windows support for DLNA is a bit shaky. Windows Media Player 11 can act as a server but requires configuration for each device you want to play to. Your best bet is to install a third-party DLNA-compliant server (such as PS3 Media Server, TVersity or similar) on your WMC, then it should appear as a server in your Tablet S's DLNA application.
If you could try and be a little clearer as to what exactly wasn't working and what you're trying I should be able to help out a bit more.
Yes I tought a VAiO Server was nessasary but it aint or should i say there isn't any,
I think I misread something on the internet and yes for example
When I play a song om my tablet and want my pc to play that song too, Where DLNA was made for, but I geuss only Sony Certified devices are supported, I am going to try iMediaShare maby that will give me more info thanks for your reply +1!
I didnt think DLNA worked overly well on the ps3 with a tablet s?
Least not the throw ablity?
Out of interest does anyone know any good apps to supplement the tablets dlna?
I d love to be able to browse my NAS using the tablet, or browse the web and throw the content to my tv using the ps3
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I didnt think DLNA worked overly well on the ps3 with a tablet s?
Least not the throw ablity?
Out of interest does anyone know any good apps to supplement the tablets dlna?
I d love to be able to browse my NAS using the tablet, or browse the web and throw the content to my tv using the ps3
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Okay, this is getting very confusing, but I'll try and help Narzsa
You can use something like iMediaShare and then you can browse the Tablet S from the PS3's XMB. If you don't need the browse function, throwing music or videos should work, but I haven't tried it personally. If your NAS is DLNA-capable (required no matter which direction or what function you're using) then you should be able to see the NAS in the included DLNA app, and then browse to the content you want.
Unfortunately, Web content is a whole different deal. Unless the Web content you're talking about is a video file with a direct link that can be opened in the stock Video Player app, then it's not possible. In that specific case, using the Throw button and choosing your TV should work okay.
If you have any other Q's try and be very specific as to what you're trying to do
Yeah its hard to get this done
But I haven't lost hope (yet). xD its hard to understand all those hard sentences because of the language
barrier, so I have to find out somewere else in dutch for example, I do understand English but its getting
too hard with all this together xD # Feeling little embarrassed
Thanks for your help I certainly can do something with this info so I will do my best +1 "Again"
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Okay, this is getting very confusing, but I'll try and help Narzsa
You can use something like iMediaShare and then you can browse the Tablet S from the PS3's XMB. If you don't need the browse function, throwing music or videos should work, but I haven't tried it personally. If your NAS is DLNA-capable (required no matter which direction or what function you're using) then you should be able to see the NAS in the included DLNA app, and then browse to the content you want.
Unfortunately, Web content is a whole different deal. Unless the Web content you're talking about is a video file with a direct link that can be opened in the stock Video Player app, then it's not possible. In that specific case, using the Throw button and choosing your TV should work okay.
If you have any other Q's try and be very specific as to what you're trying to do
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Bugger, so the throw ablity is only available in the stock app? I take it there is no way to extend its supported file formats as its immensely limited and wont play half of my stuff
No problem Mahaco, sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
And Narzsa, yes, the Throw function is a custom Sony addition as Android's stock apps do not include DLNA functionality. There is no way to extend the stock app's compatible video files. The stock version uses a hardware decoding function for reliability and efficiency and is therefore limited to the video file types that the hardware supports (found here).
Your only option would be to hope that there is a third party (software-decoding) video player with DLNA built-in. I haven't seen one personally, but there might be one so try searching the Play Store.
PS:All my videos are nicely encoded for my multiple devices, so I can use the stock player, hence I'm not too sure about the third-party ones
Bugger, nearly all of my stuff wont run on the tablet (though it will for the ps3 funnily lol)
Any one know of any good third party replacement software for the stock app?
ES file explorer works well for me. With multiple video handling applications I chose which one is best for each file,
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Bugger, nearly all of my stuff wont run on the tablet (though it will for the ps3 funnily lol)
Any one know of any good third party replacement software for the stock app?
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Install Bubble upnp on your tablet, this lets you view/browse all your files from the PS3 media server/ (or install something like Serviio on your pc and point it at your NAS), select one and play to your tv, (assuming it's DLNA), or playing the file on the tablet, although you'll need a decent videoplayer app like Diceplayer rather than the rubbish stock one.
I use Bubble UPNP with MX Video to render from PS3 Media Server. Bubble UPNP also includes a built-in server for offerring, but I haven't use that function yet.
I'm thinking of replacing my car stereo/navi unit with a 7" tablet. I'd like to know if I can use the tablet to access and navigate my phone's music and play it on the tablet so it will play through the car's speaker since my phone has more storage.
I use Team Viewer on my phone and that allows me to control my laptop so I'm looking for something along those lines but that will play the music as well, I guess it would sort of use my phone as an external drive but the tablet would also be tethered to the phone.
Or... can the Galaxy Tab 2 read a 64gb card fine, like my Rezzy does?
Oh, just thought of something else. If I can't take the tablet out of the car dash, I can change out the music on the card using the tethering? I can send load files via wifi, right?
You clearly need a HUD
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You clearly need a HUD
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I would mount the tablet in dash so that would be my HUD. Is that what you mean? Or are you trying to fix me up with Paul Newman?
I want to do what this guy did in his Alpha Romeo: http://dev.mittelmedia.it/2010/12/14/asdas/
The Galaxy Tab 7" is the right size to replace my current HU. So I use the tab to control everything, would have it tethered to my phone for data access, and would like to be able browse and play my phone's music with it. :good:
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I would mount the tablet in dash so that would be my HUD. Is that what you mean? Or are you trying to fix me up with Paul Newman?
I want to do what this guy did in his Alpha Romeo: http://dev.mittelmedia.it/2010/12/14/asdas/
The Galaxy Tab 7" is the right size to replace my current HU. So I use the tab to control everything, would have it tethered to my phone for data access, and would like to be able browse and play my phone's music with it. :good:
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If you've got an unlimited data plan and a home broadband connection with a dedicated machine at home, set up a Subsonic (or equivalent) server and use the client on your tablet, you'll have access to all of your music...
I use this version for my server - http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10445
It'll run on a variety of OS's.
You can use the modified client in that link or the official ad free one here - http://www.subsonic.org/pages/apps.jsp#android
I was being unhelpfully facetious .... HUD as in Heads Up Display .... visibly superimposed on the windshield as you attempt to keep your eyes on the road......
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I was being unhelpfully facetious .... HUD as in Heads Up Display .... visibly superimposed on the windshield as you attempt to keep your eyes on the road......
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OIC. I like the Paul Newman plan better IF he's the same age he was in HUD.
mjones73 said:
If you've got an unlimited data plan and a home broadband connection with a dedicated machine at home, set up a Subsonic (or equivalent) server and use the client on your tablet, you'll have access to all of your music...
I use this version for my server - http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10445
It'll run on a variety of OS's.
You can use the modified client in that link or the official ad free one here - http://www.subsonic.org/pages/apps.jsp#android
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Ooh... I like your thinking... How powerful does the machine need to be? I have an ooooold box running WinXP, I don't even remember the specs of it, it's been a long time since I booted it up. I suppose I could buy a cheap bare bones system considering the tablet is $400-1400 less than getting an entire new HU with navi.
Or... I'm going to be building a home theater pc that would be on a micro mobo to fit in a case that would be in my AV rack. I would be using that for all my media and it will be hooked up to my whole AV system and home network. Could that be used? Or is that a bad idea?
Or... can I just use a NAS drive that's connected to my router?
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OIC. I like the Paul Newman plan better IF he's the same age he was in HUD.
Ooh... I like your thinking... How powerful does the machine need to be? I have an ooooold box running WinXP, I don't even remember the specs of it, it's been a long time since I booted it up. I suppose I could buy a cheap bare bones system considering the tablet is $400-1400 less than getting an entire new HU with navi.
Or... I'm going to be building a home theater pc that would be on a micro mobo to fit in a case that would be in my AV rack. I would be using that for all my media and it will be hooked up to my whole AV system and home network. Could that be used? Or is that a bad idea?
Or... can I just use a NAS drive that's connected to my router?
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It doesn't require a lot of horsepower, I have mine on an old Dell Poweredge SC420 machine thats running Windows Home Server. Personally I'd put it on the home media machine if it's gonna be dedicated and running all the time. You will need to forward the one port needed, I believe it defaults to 4040 but you can set it to anything.
Upload your music to Google Music, tether phone to tablet, stream music on tablet. Would that work?
Or you could use ES file explorer, create Bluetooth link and access the phone through the tablet that way...
Phaded said:
Upload your music to Google Music, tether phone to tablet, stream music on tablet. Would that work?
Or you could use ES file explorer, create Bluetooth link and access the phone through the tablet that way...
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I have a thing against using cloud storage. Comes from my paranoia I suppose.
I just found an article on using ES Explorer to access a shared folder on a pc from your phone/tablet. Will explore your idea as well.