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Dear all
I started with my Android experience about two years ago (a little more I guess) with the HTC Desire.
Now I have a HTC Desire HD (was lucky enough to win one) which is in use.
So, that means I only have real "experience" with HTC phones. Everything else is either from the phone shop looking at it and touching it for a few moments, but not really using it or the internet.
While I like both - the HTC Desire and Desire HD - I find the HD jus the maximum of size I would like to cope with. The Desire was in my humble opinion perfectly sized. Not too big, not too small.
Now, both phones will not see any updates (the HTC Desire is now somewhere in 2.2 and the HD got 2.3.5 or something) anytime soon, certainly not 4.x.
Is there a phone out there (I will not limit myself to HTC) around the size of the HTC Desire (3.7 inch display) which will get 4.x?
My search on the internet revealed many interesting ones, but all of them are at least the size of the HD (most of the time even larger!). Is there really no android phone out there with that size? Are they all getting newer AND bigger?
Before you ask: Yes, modding is an option. However, I was just unlucky and surely stupid enough that I can not manage to get CM working on the HTC Desire. While I think I managed to root it, the loading of the new mod fails and I get back to stock all the time...but that is a subject of another time
Thanks a lot
Regards
scheuri
Hmm... i believe i would just wait and see what comes out. The release of Android 4.0 devices just began and a lot of new devices are coming. So for right now, i would just stay with what you have till some new phones are released.
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Maybe picking up an unlocked Samsung/Google Nexus S is a possibility?
We have one here and I'm impressed with how fast and stable it is with Android 4.0. Plus, as a Nexus, it keeps on being supported with the latest/greatest updates as Google makes them available.
There appears to be a big lack of development for this phone. Just wondering if anyone expects things to pickup? I just come from a galaxy nexus and while I know that that it's one of the most favored phones from the developers side, I'm currently disappointed by the lack of options wet currently have. There is like only 3 ICS Roms and 3 ICS kernels (1 only has OC ability) to choose from.
Love this phone though.
ej_424
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When developers are going to buy this phone development would be better.
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Development is still in progress! When freexperia team releases source, then we will get aokp ROM. Miui is aviable also cm 9 and cm 10 is aviable.
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It would be a dream if Huexx had a Sony Xperia S to develop a great rom like Zeus ROM for Optimus Black (i have one, trying to sell it). An incredible and organized work, with a great presence in the comunity, organized changelogs and constant updates! He also developed a nice kernel for CM9 (that original kernel from Cyanogen guys is bugged and crappy) that turned CM9 almost a usable ROM (not for me, since i really like listening music and podcasts with my phone). He did a really incredible work with Zeus! Should we ask him if he have interest in a Xperia S and donate one to him? XD haha! But really guys! Give a look at his work!
Yea...i two u man on dis...!!
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mainly because the people have got this phone on a contract there for the bootloader cant be unlocked as of this moment until setool or some other software manage to enable fastboot via testpoint. (exactly the reason i cant develop for this phone atm)
Soon many Arc/Arc S devs will come and support this phone.
Once we get CM9 and CM10 going you should see more development.
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Soon many Arc/Arc S devs will come and support this phone.
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Hehehe on the arc a lot of dev,s are gone to htc/s3.
A few teenagers are left there.
I'll try some serving during the summer, we'll see.. that's why I'm switching ROMs and making all these changes all the time, I'm learning about the phone's limits...
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this is what concers me too.. i started with galaxy s then galaxy s2.. but after that i switched to moto xoom, then galaxy tab 10.1 and then temprorarly galaxy ace.. i used samsung most of the time because of the unlocked bootloaders but i could never get used to the build quality and never got away from the screen burns of the amoled screen..
so my next preference was htc sensation XE.. this was the perfect phone for me definetely.. i had gread develeopment (since it was backed up by original sensation days), great sound quality and somehow quallcomm CPU and GPU was better than the arm based ones... i know the benchmarks say the opposite but i was using my sensation XE at 1.2 Ghz by setcpu and it was still fast enough and it never refused to play any game i thrown at.. but dust got under the screen after a few months and i sold it..
so my next was htc one x and it was a disaster with the greatest screen i have ever seen.. it was a joy to play with it but the problems were unsolveable for daily usage.. and no matter how much i love playing with my phone, messing things most of the time i need it as a ready and steady phone for daily usage.. with that heat, lack of S-off and other problems i sold it too..
so novadays i was looking at the galaxy note or s3 but then i decided to be realistic.. i love playing my games on the consoles and my computer.. so gamewise any phone would handle me because my expectations are low.. what i want is smooth web browsing, very good audio quality to listen lossless music and a good camera to shoot good photos and HD videos (not like a pro camera but at least sharp enough to make the moment freeze forever to remember later).. so i decided to go for nexus.. but then in a store i realised every galaxy phone had screen burns.. i know there are lots of ways to prevent it but still this time i made a promis and have to live with my next phone 1.5 year at least and i dont want to watch my leds die slowly and seperately in front of my eyes everyday..
so i decided to go back to sensation XE.. the most problem-free experience for me.. i care so much about graphic performance.. i think any CPU can handle anything novadays but GPU makes the difference.. so the adreno 220 in sensation XE was more than enough with the help of low-res screen and it was also OCable.. but then i saw a friends xperia s.. that changed everything.. until then i did not even look at any sony device.. not even accidentely..
now i really can not decide.. i have never been into any sony topics before so i am trying to learn but i guess on the development side xperia S is no match for sensation / XE..
so i am kind of scared about the high resolution of the screen.. XE is getting old and has only 768 mb of RAM but it has S-off and lots of developers will keep it as a legacy device.. besides i do not have to worry about warranty since there is S-off...
on the other hand soy seems to be promising with this brand new device and it seems like they use the hardware better than HTC.. it gives 37.5 FPS on the nenamark2 even with that 720p screen.. but is there any chance that i keep the warranty even after i unlock the bootloader... and what about the sound quality? i know sensation XE was not the best but at leats the sound is clear and there is beats audio.. and "most importantly" will there be any more development? i dont want to buy a device that will be forgotten after 3-4 months...
i know i wrote very long but i decided to ask.. because i have been reading for 3 weeks non-stop and i am more cunfused than i started.. its like android world's nature.. every device has their adventages and disadvanteges on each other.. like a perfect balance and it is really hard to choose sometimes..
^ you can re-locked the bootloader. and here in Indonesia, they (Sony's Service) dont even bother checking the bootloader f it's hardware problems (yellow tints). so i guess it's not an issue, but different country, different policy.
and for development.. SXS has, modded stock roms (2), cm9 and cm10 in development (bug fixing, etc), and official miui. what's more do you want? i prefer this than many development which only modified stock roms, modified miui, modified cm. it's just me though..
actually i prefer one good custom (or stock) rom than lots of roms.. but for example sensation and one x has a camera mod which let them shoot videos with 20Mbps (or 40) and take photos with 0 compression.. and i can tell; lowering the compression value looks like a must for xperia S too.
or you can OC the GPU to get more performance on 3d apps or games.. these are more important than having lots of custom roms in my opinion.. because since ICS came out every custom rom is similar to each other.
what i want to do is generally about unleashing the potential of the hardware.. like in the camera mod example.. i mean, the camera lens is still there but the software uses it much better with a little touch of a good developer..
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this is what concers me too.. i started with galaxy s then galaxy s2.. but after that i switched to moto xoom, then galaxy tab 10.1 and then temprorarly galaxy ace.. i used samsung most of the time because of the unlocked bootloaders but i could never get used to the build quality and never got away from the screen burns of the amoled screen..
so my next preference was htc sensation XE.. this was the perfect phone for me definetely.. i had gread develeopment (since it was backed up by original sensation days), great sound quality and somehow quallcomm CPU and GPU was better than the arm based ones... i know the benchmarks say the opposite but i was using my sensation XE at 1.2 Ghz by setcpu and it was still fast enough and it never refused to play any game i thrown at.. but dust got under the screen after a few months and i sold it..
so my next was htc one x and it was a disaster with the greatest screen i have ever seen.. it was a joy to play with it but the problems were unsolveable for daily usage.. and no matter how much i love playing with my phone, messing things most of the time i need it as a ready and steady phone for daily usage.. with that heat, lack of S-off and other problems i sold it too..
so novadays i was looking at the galaxy note or s3 but then i decided to be realistic.. i love playing my games on the consoles and my computer.. so gamewise any phone would handle me because my expectations are low.. what i want is smooth web browsing, very good audio quality to listen lossless music and a good camera to shoot good photos and HD videos (not like a pro camera but at least sharp enough to make the moment freeze forever to remember later).. so i decided to go for nexus.. but then in a store i realised every galaxy phone had screen burns.. i know there are lots of ways to prevent it but still this time i made a promis and have to live with my next phone 1.5 year at least and i dont want to watch my leds die slowly and seperately in front of my eyes everyday..
so i decided to go back to sensation XE.. the most problem-free experience for me.. i care so much about graphic performance.. i think any CPU can handle anything novadays but GPU makes the difference.. so the adreno 220 in sensation XE was more than enough with the help of low-res screen and it was also OCable.. but then i saw a friends xperia s.. that changed everything.. until then i did not even look at any sony device.. not even accidentely..
now i really can not decide.. i have never been into any sony topics before so i am trying to learn but i guess on the development side xperia S is no match for sensation / XE..
so i am kind of scared about the high resolution of the screen.. XE is getting old and has only 768 mb of RAM but it has S-off and lots of developers will keep it as a legacy device.. besides i do not have to worry about warranty since there is S-off...
on the other hand soy seems to be promising with this brand new device and it seems like they use the hardware better than HTC.. it gives 37.5 FPS on the nenamark2 even with that 720p screen.. but is there any chance that i keep the warranty even after i unlock the bootloader... and what about the sound quality? i know sensation XE was not the best but at leats the sound is clear and there is beats audio.. and "most importantly" will there be any more development? i dont want to buy a device that will be forgotten after 3-4 months...
i know i wrote very long but i decided to ask.. because i have been reading for 3 weeks non-stop and i am more cunfused than i started.. its like android world's nature.. every device has their adventages and disadvanteges on each other.. like a perfect balance and it is really hard to choose sometimes..
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Go for xperia s ...its actually quiet good
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Hi, im getting the Evo 3D veeery soon (from my dad, he uses it now). I know it's 2 years old phone and i will use it for 1 or more years. My question is, is it still worth it? I will use it MAINLY for Internet, games, YouTube videos etc. Should i have it, or ask him for newer phone? I won't flash any custom ROM, cuz i will use 3D and i need warranty (even thought he has the Otter Box on it )
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IMHO I think that it's still a good device with decent specifications, and after all Android 4.o is stil compatible with almost all the apps (games) on Google play store. And yes, I find 3D photos very cool Can I ask you what were you thinking to buy in alternative to evo 3D?
After that, you said you don't want to unlock it not to lose the warrnty but there are unlock methods that make you not lose warranty. I prefer an unlocked device for these reasons:
-If you do a right job, you will not lose warranty
-sense 3.6 custom roms are faster and richer of functions than the stock one (mwakious rom is excellent to take spectacular 3D pictures)
-s2w and usb OTG are becoming day after day always more essential for me, and only custom roms can provide them to me
-AOSP roms are MUCH faster than the sense ones (AOSP rom= 160-170 MB; Sense roms= 385-400 MB ). On previous versions of android I think that HTC sense was essential because added those functions that vanilla android hadn't at all, but I can see that a cyanogenmod 4.2.2 has got all the functions that I need.
-Probably (and we hope asap :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed: ) agrabren would provide an AOSP rom with working 3D, so when and if it will happen I think there will be no more reson to stay on stock rom
I hope I have convinced you to come to the dark side lol but at least I hope I was able to convince you that evo is still a good device, even if htc supported it for less than a year and after abandoned it
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IMHO I think that it's still a good device with decent specifications, and after all Android 4.o is stil compatible with almost all the apps (games) on Google play store. And yes, I find 3D photos very cool Can I ask you what were you thinking to buy in alternative to evo 3D?
After that, you said you don't want to unlock it not to lose the warrnty but there are unlock methods that make you not lose warranty. I prefer an unlocked device for these reasons:
-If you do a right job, you will not lose warranty
-sense 3.6 custom roms are faster and richer of functions than the stock one (mwakious rom is excellent to take spectacular 3D pictures)
-s2w and usb OTG are becoming day after day always more essential for me, and only custom roms can provide them to me
-AOSP roms are MUCH faster than the sense ones (AOSP rom= 160-170 MB; Sense roms= 385-400 MB ). On previous versions of android I think that HTC sense was essential because added those functions that vanilla android hadn't at all, but I can see that a cyanogenmod 4.2.2 has got all the functions that I need.
-Probably (and we hope asap :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed: ) agrabren would provide an AOSP rom with working 3D, so when and if it will happen I think there will be no more reson to stay on stock rom
I hope I have convinced you to come to the dark side lol but at least I hope I was able to convince you that evo is still a good device, even if htc supported it for less than a year and after abandoned it
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Thank you, I'll get Evo then i thought about some Chinese phones, but i think it would ve worse than Evo. Again, thank you
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Marek989 said:
i thought about some Chinese phones, but i think it would ve worse than Evo.
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And you are right! On the paper those phones are beautiful, with hi specifications and so on...but when you get it, their quality is soooooo low, battery hasn't got a decent life time and the whole phone won't last you so long. And you didn't considered the SAR exposure, in "chinese phones" is really high and it increases with the passing of time :s :s :s :s not so healthy at all. But I see that you have an HD2..I am following the porting works for the new 3.0.16 kernel for this device and I think that some really good things are gonna happen
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And you are right! On the paper those phones are beautiful, with hi specifications and so on...but when you get it, their quality is soooooo low, battery hasn't got a decent life time and the whole phone won't last you so long. And you didn't considered the SAR exposure, in "chinese phones" is really high and it increases with the passing of time :s :s :s :s not so healthy at all. But I see that you have an HD2..I am following the porting works for the new 3.0.16 kernel for this device and I think that some really good things are gonna happen
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Hehe, yes, I'm waiting for the 3.0 kernel It will give HD2 some time untill it will die, hehe
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now updating
Ive been using leedroids firmware/rom for the last 2 years, and been great but its not getting slow, and not compatible with apps etc, plus rebooting couple times a week etc
so too am now trying to update, want to stay with sense (as its HTC !)
and of course want to keep the 3D fully working ! (still love using the 3D !)
would be good to have HDMI out still work too ?
so i too am trying to decide what kernal/rom to use !!!
from what i have read over the past day, is that sense 3.6 and below should have working 3D, 4 and upwards will not.
and ICS and under, senseless are working with 3D but not with jellybean ...
can anyone conform this ???
miniminus said:
Ive been using leedroids firmware/rom for the last 2 years, and been great but its not getting slow, and not compatible with apps etc, plus rebooting couple times a week etc
so too am now trying to update, want to stay with sense (as its HTC !)
and of course want to keep the 3D fully working ! (still love using the 3D !)
would be good to have HDMI out still work too ?
so i too am trying to decide what kernal/rom to use !!!
from what i have read over the past day, is that sense 3.6 and below should have working 3D, 4 and upwards will not.
and ICS and under, senseless are working with 3D but not with jellybean ...
can anyone conform this ???
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Only sense 3.6 and lower have everything working and only sense based ROMs have working 3d (these are mostly sense 3.6 base)
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Only sense 3.6 and lower have everything working and only sense based ROMs have working 3d (these are mostly sense 3.6 base)
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thats great, always good to get it confirmed !!
from what ive been reading in the dev threads, looks like mwakious3Drom® ICS 4.0.3 sense3.6 seems the best one !,
plus they talking of there next update (as its still current) will have the newest sense !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648407
The Evo 3D is still a tremendous phone. It is indeed sort of 2 years old but you definitely don't notice it.
It has pretty much all functions that all other phones offer, and 3d ofcourse
Very satisfied with mine. I use it for internet, facebook etc.
It's a shame that they didn't want to put jellybean on it. With 1GB ram and a 1.2ghz dual core processor it is more than strong enough.
Oh and remember to get a micro SD storage card of 4GB or more if you plan on gaming!
The specs say that it has 4GB of internal space, but 3GB is "locked" and only 1GB is available.
Hello everyone I'm ChongWiz, since I got my first android device in early 2011 (Xperia X8) I used XPERIA smartphones because I loved the UI and the design of Sony. Now, I'm planning to upgrade from Xperia Sola to an HTC One X+, and I'm planning to use an AOSP based rom on it because I really like pure Android looks since ICS was out. There are two things that I'm afraid of with this phone:
1) Gaming performance on Gameloft, and other really high graphics games
2) Battery drain/overheat on AOSP based roms.
Please confirm/bust my fears because I really don't want to get disappointed with my phone like I did with my Sola!
I would use the phone for gaming/watching movies browsing the web, emailing, phoning, and chatting.
Thanks in advance, ChongWiz
From my own experience i would say dont worry about point 1,best phone i ever owned, point 2 i dont know never tried aosp roms
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Hi,
I've read that KitKat would need less resource compared to JB.
Since there are already ROM's based on JB for the Legend, do you think that a custom ROM will rapidly appear based on KitKat for this phone?
Thanks.
No.I don't think there are any developers left on this forum.
I too believe this won't happen, sadly. JB for Legend wasn't such a good idea, it simply can't run smoothly on that device. But, if what google says is true (about the hardware requirements), then 4.4 could be the greatest thing that has happened to this phone in a while. I still use my Legend as an mp3 player, but i would just love it if it was more functional, so i could use it in some high-risk situations (to avoid breaking my GN4). This could be Legends last chance to die with honor
Personally I have the Baked Blackbean Rom on my Legend (JB thus) and I'm rather satisfied of this Rom (thank you to the team BTW).
It lags a bit and there are some bugs but it allows me to play with the latest versions of the apps (I love the latest version of gmail for example).
Give it a try if you haven't already. The Legend deserves a better end than as a mere MP3 player .
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Personally I have the Baked Blackbean Rom on my Legend (JB thus) and I'm rather satisfied of this Rom (thank you to the team BTW).
It lags a bit and there are some bugs but it allows me to play with the latest versions of the apps (I love the latest version of gmail for example).
Give it a try if you haven't already. The Legend deserves a better end than as a mere MP3 player .
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I'm also using JB on my Legend, but it is not really that stable (don't get me wrong, congrats to the developers, they did a great job), but it just feels too "heavy" on the phone. My biggest problem was the low amount of internal memory - yes, i know you can create a partition on the sd card, but i've never managed to accomplish it. Tried everything, just wouldn't work. So I really can't use the latest app version, as i can have about three apps installed at a time xD
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. The app that launches 10 sec after you put your finger on it...
For the internal storage, I use Link2SD, which actually works pretty well. When I check, it tells me that I got something like 280MB in use and still have 70MB free.
I just created like you said a second partition (using a soft [named Mini-Tool if I remember correctly] in Windows while my phone was plugged in USB) and then using this second partition to install my apps.
Are you interested in trying again ? You have another phone but, anyway...
I've been part of legend community for about 2 years now, never got into full blown deving, rather doing relatively small mods, tweeks and stuff for personal use only (read, cutting my teeth with android).
Activity in legend has unfortunately died over the past 3-6 months and I haven't seen much from our last major Dev zeubea for long time, so unless there is a skilled Dev equal or better than zeubea out there that loves the HTC legend, its not going to happen. Even then given that jb version never really got finished to stable version, I very much doubt KitKat would come anywhere near the level that jb reached simply due to lack of source code for the required harware drivers...
Ya never know your luck in a big city...
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Well, let's hope such a developer exists than...
KK has been ported to the HTC Desire so there's hope
and sorry to hijack, but is anyone willing to test some gapps? Would be appreciated, cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47101145&postcount=204
Ah cool! That's indeed a good news!
Thanks for the info.
KK was said to be optimized for devices with 512 MB+ RAM via Project Svelte. The Legend unfortunately doesn't even have that much.
But, I ask, why would everyone ideally want to have their Legends running Android 4.x? I don't understand why because although Gingerbread is now running on less than half of all Android devices, it was the last OS on our phone to run fluidly and with stability. With JB and above, Google's cramming more and more features into Google Play services, which really brings down the space the Legend has in its internal memory for apps. KK just won't run like Google intended to on this device. I just don't understand why people want the latest and greatest on a ~4 year old device. Maybe you have your reasons, and I'll respect that, but I can't think of any reason why personally.
It hurts to say, but with the Legend nearing four years since announcement, this phone isn't worth being developed for anymore. It wasn't that huge of a hit, like the original Desire or the Sensation. Therefore, it tends to be more forgotten. It doesn't have the computing power of neither of these devices, nor does it even come close to it, so while the aforementioned devices are slowly getting the bleeding edge, we'll be getting it slower, if at all.
It's a harsh reality, but if you want the best experience in Android possible, it's time to upgrade. ~Four years, that's around two two-year contracts. For Legend owners in Canada, your contract should have been up just this past summer.
This phone will always be a classic, guiding HTC through its brilliant design language with the HTC One flagship and its variants. Its legacy is shown on the devices that succeeded it. Unfortunately, I don't believe it has anything more to bring.
Hi Asovse1,
Thank you for your opinion.
You're right when you say that 4 years are an eternity for a smartphone but personally right now I can't afford a new device that would have for example the screen quality of the Legend (which has an amoled screen while even recent phone still use LCD). If I buy a new phone around 99 $ (my budget) I would have a screen with a poor resolution so the change is not worthy.
I have a JB Rom on my Legend and I can enjoy the last version of GMail for example that has really cool stuff. And this version of gmail runs rather smoothly on my phone, so why not ?
The Legend doesn't have 512MB RAM, for this reason he wasn't supposed to support ICS, but it worked, so while it works with the new version of Android, I will hope that a talented developer will build a Rom for this fantastic phone .
Or maybe I can wait just a few days ans see what the Moto G has to offer...
Cheers.
Hear hear, someone in the same boat as myself. Still using my Legend for daily use. I am on CM7.2 stable. Only GPS is not reliable. Tried a lot higher roms, never worked out well.
I am looking into importing a Chinese phone. Nice specs and an affordable price. Only risk is a broken phone within 2 years...
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Hi Wim,
Have you ever tried the Baked one as I mentioned earlier?
I have it on my Legend and use it daily without any problem. And the GPS works too, even if sometimes it needs some time to find itself, once it's done, it works perfectly.
Hello there,
I have great news for all the fans of the Legend: it might get KitKat !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905588&page=28
Let's cross our fingers !
Cheers!
It's been 5 years, any news?