[UPDATE: A Verizon spokesman told Wireless and Mobile News that an update for the Rezound will not be rolling out over the holiday weekend; he could not confirm a date when the device would get ICS.]
don't really care anymore. given up on VZ after the 6th.
i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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Do you really believe they would have released an update while the Rezound has been on sale from last week through today. The release of ICS would not have been done until the sale is over. Otherwise you would have had units being sent out without ICS from the early part of the sale and then sent some out at the end of the sale with ICS. It would have complicated everything, now the sale is over they can address thier attention to releasing ICS. Well at least I hope.
I don't think that Verizon promised this update on 4/6/2012. Wasn't this a Best Buy bogus post for both the Razr getting ICS on 4/4 and the Rezpund 4/6, neither of whaich was true. I have not read anywhere that Verizon published this release date for ICS for the Rezound.
It wasn't confirmed by anybody but a BB poster which had no evidence behind it anyway.
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[UPDATE: A Verizon spokesman told Wireless and Mobile News that an update for the Rezound will not be rolling out over the holiday weekend; he could not confirm a date when the device would get ICS.]
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Seeing as how the weekend is already over, i could've told you the same thing. This just in.... The ICS update will be rolling out sometime after right now (For all phones that don't already have it, but are slated to get it). But i can't tell you when.
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i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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Doubt this. Majority of VZW customers don't even know wtf ICS is, yet alone what they run on their phone.
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i feel you, they lost alot of customers on this one. its not that hard to push out a update that is already done.
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And you have proof there's an update done? Did you return your phone over a bogus leaked picture from Best Buy?
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[UPDATE: A Verizon spokesman told Wireless and Mobile News that an update for the Rezound will not be rolling out over the holiday weekend; he could not confirm a date when the device would get ICS.]
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all speculation and rumors at this point. im telling you guys, i don't expect it until at least summer.
I honestly don't care anymore. I have fully working ICS on my Rezound. If they never officially released it, I wouldn't care much since I already have it. What would be nice however, is if they dropped the source code on us for the leaks that are already floating around.
I still don't understand the outrage that some people have over it. I mean, the people that care about it are here or on other sites that have info about rooting and development - so if you want ICS - go get it. The rest of the people - they probably don't care because they just want their device to work, and it does out of the box untouched. It works pretty darn well too.
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lmfao i guarantee you they lost 0 customers due to this. hahahaha
Not that I care....much, but are purchased Rezounds being shipped with ICS? I had to take advantage of the sale.
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Not that I care....much, but are purchased Rezounds being shipped with ICS? I had to take advantage of the sale.
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negative...
I even picked one up on this sale and I still do not have 4G out her on Long Island. Hardware it is fine, Dev support is better than the prior units I am switching from, so It can only be better on our end.
everyone i've spoken with says that they barely sell any rezounds anyway. that's this area, so ymmv.
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everyone i've spoken with says that they barely sell any rezounds anyway. that's this area, so ymmv.
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Shame it's a good phone... I was going to pick up a Nexus til I started seeing the issues they were having. Couldn't be happier with my choice to get a Rezound instead.
this is so far my fav phone period but i honestly doubt vzw will ever bother pushing ics onto this thing. if they do though, it'll be in the distant future when ics becomes standard on most devices.
Why care about a bloated up release from VZW that has an older version of Sense? When there are several awesome Sense 4.0 roms that run smooth as butter available for us to flash. Get with the times brotha.
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Come ladies and gentlemen, place your bets!
i think so lots of websites have scans of an internal memo stating the update as the 30th. if not the 30th then the 7th since thats when free hotspot promo ends and they said a software update would disable this.
No
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Verizon does like to do things on Thursdays, so we shall see.
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i agree verizon loves releaseing things on thursdays
Considering that there have been few rumblings (other than some well placed informants), I'd have to say probably not a full blown release, but maybe the start of soak testing.
I'm not holding my breath
Who really cares anyways?
If you are on this forum, chances are you are already running some type of GB on your phone and it is probably better than any "stock" release whether that is tomorrow or a month from now.
the GB roms run great (im on theory)....but come on man...its not going to be as stable as a final GB + Sense build...there are many proprietary files that are not complete with the test build...i cant see why the new official build wont increase are GB rom experience
What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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Just wait for one of the devs to make a rooted version of the release and then flash the zip to your phone. Simple as pie.
you shouldnt update if you are rooted. wait for a rooted stock firmware.
I highly doubt it since there's been little or no talk at all about it. I was wondering since I just snatched one off of CL for super cheap. guess I'll go root instead.
I'd like to point out that it was all of 3 weeks ago they leaked something that looked like a reliable RUU called MR2 that was beyond question Froyo. Is it just me, or am I the ONLY one that took one look at that fake looking photo and said to myself "Dear God, the only thing that would look more fake would be a duck bill on a cactus." Can you imagine what the order for such a thing would sound like? "Hey, Johnny! We need and INTERNAL MEMO drawn up. Make sure to put our logo in the LEFT corner where NOBODY would ever put a logo on official stationary, be sure to add a picture of the device incase NOBODY has ever seen our first LTE phone, and definitely add specific OTA release numbers AND the radio version that will include so that our boys down in technical support will grow big rubbery ones as they dangle the information out there at hords of pimple-faced geeks calling with 'problems' but are really just hoping for the next big scoop for Androidforums.com" If Gingerbread come out in an official OTA today, I will eat my Thunderbolt and post the video on Youtube. I promise. In fact, if it comes out in the next 90 days, I'll eat the phone.
Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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saw that coming.
btw, some people are getting a little upset over this whole topic. it'll get here one day (hopefully), just chill out
I don't even care about gingerbread. I just want the bugs fixed.
No I called Verizon's tech and he told me that there is no update coming out
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I'm here to collect my $100 from each dum-dum who believed it was coming out today, thank you.
It's released
Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt is released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140967
Click HERE for the official link to Motorola's Ice Cream Sandwich development stages and estimated release dates.
yes i know motorola are complete liars but its the only *OFFICIAL* information we have right now and you guys can keep checking back HERE for updated information rather than the "what he said she said" crap i keep reading.
thanks
Thank goodness for Cyanogen 9. Q3 is to far off. I'll be getting ICS this weekend now that it's in beta with minor bugs.
I can't wait.
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Thank goodness for Cyanogen 9. Q3 is to far off. I'll be getting ICS this weekend now that it's in beta with minor bugs.
I can't wait.
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yea im going to do the same thing once my phone comes in. i just signed up for sprint today and my phone should arrive by saturday. last motorola android i owned was the cliq and it took them well over a year with the same promise to bring 2.0 or 2.1 to that phone from 1.5 after several delays. cyanogenmod had a stable release for that phone several months before the official update came out. by then i didnt even have the phone anymore lol switched to the mytouch3g slide.
By the time ICS is released in Q3......Jelly Bean should be out in the alpha stage
...just saying...
Maybe it will get here a bit sooner. At least this newer info will get rid of all the many posts about "Will Photon get ICS?". Very annoying. I never doubted for a second the Photon wouldn't get ICS. Google wants this on all devices capable of running it and have said so from the beginning. ICS is just slow rolling out it seems.
Anyways, for those of us that need full functionality CM9 isn't an option yet. One of the great things about the Photon is HDMI out and Webtop feature. I am not willing to lose those and as I understand there is no way to activate Webtop on CM9 yet. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. However, 4g I can live without (not in my area) and having the camera working now is a great step to final.
Al Sharpton will be President before Photon sees ICS! Im getting SGS11 Note with it! Why the he'll AT&T is selling with GB i'm clueless! Oh, get out and vote for Rev Al!
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Al Sharpton will be President before Photon sees ICS! Im getting SGS11 Note with it! Why the he'll AT&T is selling with GB i'm clueless! Oh, get out and vote for Rev Al!
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Ok....I just have to ask. What does this thread & ICS have to do with Al Sharpton?
Also, if the Note only has GB and you want it cause you say the Photon won't get ICS in forever than why do you want a Note?? Sorry but your post seems like just jibbity jabber. How much coffee do you drink in the morning??
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Ok....I just have to ask. What does this thread & ICS have to do with Al Sharpton?
Also, if the Note only has GB and you want it cause you say the Photon won't get ICS in forever than why do you want a Note?? Sorry but your post seems like just jibbity jabber. How much coffee do you drink in the morning??
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Ok, let me clarify. We all know Al will never be president, therefore, I believe although announced, Moto will pull the plug at some point before Q3.
Next, the AT&T note has GB, the Sprint Note, expected this summer, is expected (again expected!) to have ICS more over to top AT&T!
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Ok, let me clarify. We all know Al will never be president, therefore, I believe although announced, Moto will pull the plug at some point before Q3.
Next, the AT&T note has GB, the Sprint Note, expected this summer, is expected (again expected!) to have ICS more over to top AT&T!
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Ah...thanks for the clarification. That makes sense. However, the Photon will get official ICS.
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Ah...thanks for the clarification. That makes sense. However, the Photon will get official ICS.
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Sure, just like I got WiMAX 4G! Lets be honest, who here keeps a phone more than a year? If they pushed this to Q2 maybe, but for us to wait with all the new hardware coming out WITH ICS, I'm surprised Moto made the announcment, they could have saved the development work, but we will see I'm sure. And even with me getting the Note, I'm not getting rid of the Photon anytime soon. like 2013 Q2 if my income tax is late, haha!
As bad as the SGS2 is on Sprint, you better take a long look at the Note before you jump on it. Ill never own another Samsung device. They have officially lost me at this point. Im waiting for HTCs next big thing. They seem to be the best of the bunch from what we have to chose from.
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I do.
It is a business phone so it is up to Sprint on when they will allow us an upgrade. If they are now on a 2-year upgrade plan for even businesses than I will for sure have the Photon for over a year. We can't afford to keep upgrading otherwise.
Also, wasn't it you who was just complaining in another thread about not having WiMax and "what if I want to keep my Photon for 10 years?" point? If you don't keep a phone for more than a year why was that even a valid point on your end?
Not trying to be harsh with these questions, just observations and curiousity mainly.
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As bad as the SGS2 is on Sprint, you better take a long look at the Note before you jump on it. Ill never own another Samsung device. They have officially lost me at this point. Im waiting for HTCs next big thing. They seem to be the best of the bunch from what we have to chose from.
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You know how many people gave me negative reviews on my last 3 or 4 devices and I was cool with all of them! Besides, I will play hard for 29 days and if I don't like, get my money minus $25.00 restocking fee!
Sent from my bone stock Photon 4G code name "Neo!" by 'Root no more me!"
Tèlementrë hêvlãna yèmenskï.
Pørvânœ Îcē Crême Sändwhīch.
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Side Note: I have no freakin idea what I just said or in what language it was in.
I hope but doubt that their ICS will be as barebone as CM9
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Tèlementrë hêvlãna yèmenskï.
Pørvânœ Îcē Crême Sändwhīch.
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Side Note: I have no freakin idea what I just said or in what language it was in.
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Google Translator says Swedish but since I lived there and speak a little, Swedish is not it. I know German when I see it. I know French when I see it. SO, I'm going with Finnish (don't look Russian either!)
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yes i know motorola are complete liars but its the only *OFFICIAL* information we have right now and you guys can keep checking back.
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stupid comment
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stupid comment
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lol how so?
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As bad as the SGS2 is on Sprint, you better take a long look at the Note before you jump on it. Ill never own another Samsung device. They have officially lost me at this point. Im waiting for HTCs next big thing. They seem to be the best of the bunch from what we have to chose from.
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You mean the SGS2 where they are testing official ICS leaks right now as we speak?
I've not had a single issue with mine (nor with my wife's Photon beyond a few kinks which were worked out fairly quickly).
HTC? Really? After the 3D and assorted crap (Design anyone?) I'm beginning to think the og Evo was a fluke. Thanks, but no thanks.
I received a call yesterday from an HTC wanting to discuss a rather critical customer support feedback survey I recently submitted. In the course of the conversation he mentioned the ICS upgrade and I asked him when they expect that to happen. His answer:
"It'll be late May or the second half of this year."
I asked him to repeat it, and whether he had any evidence to confirm that. He said he was sure of the time frame. Make of it what you will, but I've suspected for a while we really got boned in the butt with this one. Give up on an official ICS release in any timely manner.
That's what I figured. When I was researching buying this phone and they said "Late Q1", I was skeptical and said it would probably be more like May. We got confirmation that they were blowing smoke when they announced the Rezound wouldn't be until "later this year".
The CS rep you spoke with seems to align with "later this year".
There has to be a way to get faster updates. What happened to the Google Android Update Alliance?
So basically what he said is sometime this year. That's a pretty big window, so basically we will see an official ICS build within the next 9 months. This is the very reason I root my phone. We already have very stable fully functional ICS builds thanks to our Devs. I don't understand how our Devs can get a great build for us, but yet the "professionals" can't seem to make it happen.
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So basically what he said is sometime this year. That's a pretty big window, so basically we will see an official ICS build within the next 9 months. This is the very reason I root my phone. We already have very stable fully functional ICS builds thanks to our Devs. I don't understand how our Devs can get a great build for us, but yet the "professionals" can't seem to make it happen.
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Because they aren't concerned with us getting updates. They just work on the next phone and get around to us if they feel like it.
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I'm betting it has something to do with Verizon ,not htc. Id blame Verizon for slowing down any update or rom upgrade. Simply because Verizon is testing it to find all the software bugs and tricks embedded in the ROM. And they are determining what bloatware and/or cripplrware they want to stuff in it before its release. Thats why the date keeps getting pushed ahead. Srnd it back to htc devs after vzw is done. Htc tweaks it more, vzw wants to do more to it...and back to htc yet again... :/
The alliance is a joke.
More marketing bs. Great phone though
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I'm still sticking to the summer, but yea, rooting is the way to go.
Even sadder ICS news
http://phandroid.com/2012/03/06/htc-sensation-line-to-get-android-4-0-but-only-sense-3-6/
I think if this is the case with the Rezound rooting will be a must.
Thank goodness for the leaks. They have certainly gotten to the point of being solid and give me most of what I want out of the update. But it doesn't change the fact that Android/Sense 4.0 is ready and working on other phones and they clearly don't have much respect for their previous promises or customers.
I'm sure VZW gets partial blame here, but they are all hurting their reputations together. The extra wait better result in us getting Sense 4! If we just get a bloated official 3.6 I say we get the pitchforks!
Funny, gingerbread with sense 3.5 looks and acts basically like ics with sense 3.6. I tried Joel's sense 4.0 rom and it was pretty cool. This is why we root folks. Never trust the carrier or manufacturers. Stick with the developers!
I'm sure VZW puts HTC through hell with the roms for VZW phones. Definately sucks, but IMO, the longer its put off the more likely we are to get sense 4.0
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welcome to retail. HTC/Verizon already has your money. They sold you a phone with whatever software is had on it at the time. They aren't obgliated to update it at all. they do so in order to keep customers happy. its not just HTC either, motorola, samsung, LG, company x; all the same with software updates. Their policy is update the newest first then work their way back. it cost money to develop updates for every single phone model, thats just the way it is. I have learned to not worr or wait for official updates and just use what this great development community has provided to us....4 months early.
the ICS ROMS out right now are honestly magical. Try them out.
I predict that we won't see anything until the "one" is out for at least a month and the buying of that device begins slowing.
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
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Their policy is update the newest first then work their way back. it cost money to develop updates for every single phone model, thats just the way it is. I have learned to not worr or wait for official updates and just use what this great development community has provided to us....4 months early.
the ICS ROMS out right now are honestly magical. Try them out.
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I've been following these threads but refraining from posting in them .
I understand your point, however, Android 4.0 was released/announced just prior to the release of the Rezound. If potential customers of the Rezound knew they would not be updated for close to another year (likely when Android 5.0 will be out) I'm sure that would've swayed many buyers.
I myself as well as most of us users on here aren't too hurt about this thanks to our awesome Devs but it sucks to know a lot of people dropped some nice coin for phone that HTC/Verizon have obviously not held their end of the deal of "Will receive ICS in early 2012". This was stated in red lettering on the spec list of the Rezound on the Verizon website.
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If potential customers of the Rezound knew they would not be updated for close to another year (likely when Android 5.0 will be out) I'm sure that would've swayed many buyers.
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I don't really agree & I'm not trying to argue at all.
My point is that the average VZ customer could care less about updates to a phone that basically worked just fine out of the box.
I am the head of our corporate cell phone account with almost 200 phones & if you said "ICS update" to any of our users you would be met with a blank stare as they wouldn't have the first clue what you where talking about. As long as they can turn on their phones & it functions as it's supposed to, they are perfectly happy with it.
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I've been following these threads but refraining from posting in them .
I understand your point, however, Android 4.0 was released/announced just prior to the release of the Rezound. If potential customers of the Rezound knew they would not be updated for close to another year (likely when Android 5.0 will be out) I'm sure that would've swayed many buyers.
I myself as well as most of us users on here aren't too hurt about this thanks to our awesome Devs but it sucks to know a lot of people dropped some nice coin for phone that HTC/Verizon have obviously not held their end of the deal of "Will receive ICS in early 2012". This was stated in red lettering on the spec list of the Rezound on the Verizon website.
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you are def right and i agree. it sucks that consumers are fed lies to sell products. honestly though you have to think of it as a numbers game for VZW.
How many people bought the rezound? 1 million (for ease of math)
How many of those people actually care what OS their phone has? maybe 10%?
of that 100000, how many really know the advantages of ICS vs GB? maybe another 10%?
i mean its a small piece of the VZW pie when you think about it.
plus when the next big HTC phone hits the shelves for sale VZW can advertise is as the "first 4.0 HTC device"
it will be summer before we see this. all i want ice cream for is so the devs can finally get us aosp.
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How many people bought the rezound? 1 million (for ease of math)
How many of those people actually care what OS their phone has? maybe 10%?
of that 100000, how many really know the advantages of ICS vs GB? maybe another 10%?
i mean its a small piece of the VZW pie when you think about it.
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That is exactly the point I was making.
It is only posters to sites like this who really care about things like ICS updates & we are such a tiny fraction of Verizons 100 million customers. If every single XDA poster switched to Sprint tomorrow, VZ wouldn't even notice the hit........
This isn't anything new. The HTC Droid Eris was stuck on Android 1.5 forever. I'm pretty sure Android 2.2 Froyo was out already by the time the Droid Eris got its official Android 2.1 update. Based on the past, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the official release of Jelly Bean sometime before we get the official ICS update for the Rezound. I was also fully prepared for the possibility that we'd have an AOSP port working before we get the official ICS update from Verizon. The Droid Eris already has a mostly working AOSP ICS port and they haven't had an official update since Android 2.1 to base anything off of, so I know its possible with the right amount of time and patience.
Anyways, going forward its very possible we are only going to have AOSP ports for the Rezound, because it is entirely possible at this point that ICS will be the last officially supported version of Android for this phone.
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Hehe. Hehehe. Yeah, I remember that happening too. That was cute.
But yeah, honestly, they didn't attach any teeth to this agreement so there's no incentive for any of the manufacturers to honor it.
I received a call just awhile ago from a Verizon rep offering me an upgrade to a 4g phone. At first i thought it was related to the other number on my account which has a March 2012 upgrade date but she corrected me and told me it was for my Droid X2 and wouldn't effect the other lines upgrade. I accepted the Nexus seeing how it gets fastest upgrades and support(Total opposite of this phone). Was wondering if anyone else has gotten this type of call, may be Verizon trying to repair customer relations from Motorola lying to the DX2 owners about unlocked boot loaders. I think the complaints are finally working.
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I received a call just awhile ago from a Verizon rep offering me an upgrade to a 4g phone. At first i thought it was related to the other number on my account which has a March 2012 upgrade date but she corrected me and told me it was for my Droid X2 and wouldn't effect the other lines upgrade. I accepted the Nexus seeing how it gets fastest upgrades and support(Total opposite of this phone). Was wondering if anyone else has gotten this type of call, may be Verizon trying to repair customer relations from Motorola lying to the DX2 owners about unlocked boot loaders. I think the complaints are finally working.
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i honestly hope theyre working, but who knows..
we wont know til we see an unlocked bootloader though
I doubt the bootloaders gonna be unlocked that's why they're offering early upgrades. Buts that's just my guess, I might've been offered it for a different reason.
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I doubt the bootloaders gonna be unlocked that's why they're offering early upgrades. Buts that's just my guess, I might've been offered it for a different reason.
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yeah, but so many people have complained that maybe we won..
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yeah, but so many people have complained that maybe we won..
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Yeah effing right. When I get a damn rezound ill believe it.
Cyanogenmod
magozz said:
I received a call just awhile ago from a Verizon rep offering me an upgrade to a 4g phone. At first i thought it was related to the other number on my account which has a March 2012 upgrade date but she corrected me and told me it was for my Droid X2 and wouldn't effect the other lines upgrade. I accepted the Nexus seeing how it gets fastest upgrades and support(Total opposite of this phone). Was wondering if anyone else has gotten this type of call, may be Verizon trying to repair customer relations from Motorola lying to the DX2 owners about unlocked boot loaders. I think the complaints are finally working.
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When was your original upgrade date? That will add some perspective. Mine is in April 2013. If yours was close, like in 3-4 months, then it seems reasonable. However, I find it interesting that they specifically called you and informed you. Since this is my first phone, I dunno how early upgrades work and if that is how they usually inform people.
Also, did you regularly complain and/or request replacement phones? That may have also caused this to happen.
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When was your original upgrade date? That will add some perspective. Mine is in April 2013. If yours was close, like in 3-4 months, then it seems reasonable. However, I find it interesting that they specifically called you and informed you. Since this is my first phone, I dunno how early upgrades work and if that is how they usually inform people.
Also, did you regularly complain and/or request replacement phones? That may have also caused this to happen.
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I had an EnV touch (yah know one of the worst phones ever) last time. It broke 6 times and they REFUSED to let me get something different. My upgrade I think would be January or Feb. if they are still doing the early upgrade stuff. I think this may just be luck on the OP's side of things. I would not expect anyone else getting this, bootloader locked whatever they don't care.
The least the OP could do is ask why their giving this to him.
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I had an EnV touch (yah know one of the worst phones ever) last time. It broke 6 times and they REFUSED to let me get something different. My upgrade I think would be January or Feb. if they are still doing the early upgrade stuff. I think this may just be luck on the OP's side of things. I would not expect anyone else getting this, bootloader locked whatever they don't care.
The least the OP could do is ask why their giving this to him.
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you think THAT is a bad phone? i had the VOYAGER! you know, the OG iPhone Killer lol that phone was really bad. it would crash whenever i opened email. then i got the samsung fascinate pretty good phone imho and now have the dx2. my contract is up in may (thank the lord) and cant wait to see the new phones by then. theres this new droid fighter thats supposed to be released but thats by moto eww.
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you think THAT is a bad phone? i had the VOYAGER! you know, the OG iPhone Killer lol that phone was really bad. it would crash whenever i opened email. then i got the samsung fascinate pretty good phone imho and now have the dx2. my contract is up in may (thank the lord) and cant wait to see the new phones by then. theres this new droid fighter thats supposed to be released but thats by moto eww.
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Yea, the EnV Touch was discontinued after like 6 months because of all these issues. Touch screen wouldn't work half the time, speakers blew and plenty of other things. The best part was they had so much stock that even the new ones they gave out were faulty and they threw the used ones out (at least when I went in their plenty of times).
I love this phone but if their gonna offer an early upgrade to one guy they gotta offer it to everyone lol. Something you learn in school god'damnit. (sarcasm to the fullest) . Though I would take a new phone over this if given the option.
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Yea, the EnV Touch was discontinued after like 6 months because of all these issues. Touch screen wouldn't work half the time, speakers blew and plenty of other things. The best part was they had so much stock that even the new ones they gave out were faulty and they threw the used ones out (at least when I went in their plenty of times).
I love this phone but if their gonna offer an early upgrade to one guy they gotta offer it to everyone lol. Something you learn in school god'damnit. (sarcasm to the fullest) . Though I would take a new phone over this if given the option.
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yeah id upgrade in a heartbeat but this phone isnt THAT bad. other then the locked bl it fine. ive said it a million times and ill say it a million times more, this phone would be amazing if moto would just unlock it :/
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When was your original upgrade date?
Also, did you regularly complain and/or request replacement phones? That may have also caused this to happen.
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Definitely wondering this myself. Don't get me wrong, I've been pretty content with the stock phone, but if I could upgrade early I certainly wouldn't be complaining.
I've called Verizon every few days for the past three months begging for an early upgrade!!! I like my X2,but the locked bootloader thing killed Moto for me. The BS that Verizon where the ones stopping them from unlocking the bootloader is soo childish after promising to do so.
What drive me insane is that the phone I want the MOST is the Droid Razr Maxx,but since it's a Moto phone I won't do it. Galaxy Nexus or Htc Rezound.
Flanker1743 you sir are one lucky son of a gun I'm both happy for you and envy you at the same time~
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When was your original upgrade date? That will add some perspective. Mine is in April 2013. If yours was close, like in 3-4 months, then it seems reasonable. However, I find it interesting that they specifically called you and informed you. Since this is my first phone, I dunno how early upgrades work and if that is how they usually inform people.
Also, did you regularly complain and/or request replacement phones? That may have also caused this to happen.
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My upgrade date was May '13 which is why I was surprised at the offer. I talked to reps a few times about the bootloader but never really continually called for complaints.
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My upgrade date was May '13 which is why I was surprised at the offer. I talked to reps a few times about the bootloader but never really continually called for complaints.
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Whoa! Unfair mate! I want my early upgrade... Still double check if it is your X2 or the other line. May be the rep got confused... otherwise, you are one lucky bastard! Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus!
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Whoa! Unfair mate! I want my early upgrade... Still double check if it is your X2 or the other line. May be the rep got confused... otherwise, you are one lucky bastard! Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus!
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QFT
litetaker said:
Whoa! Unfair mate! I want my early upgrade... Still double check if it is your X2 or the other line. May be the rep got confused... otherwise, you are one lucky bastard! Enjoy your Galaxy Nexus!
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Yea, will definitely have to double check when it gets here. We all know how reps are lol.
I've been offered early upgrades on both of the phones on my account. I was offered an early upgrade on one, which is a not a smart phone, after having owned it for only 3 months. I was offered an upgrade on my DX after having owned it for about 6 months. At the time, they didn't offer to grandfather my account rates, but offered to "update" my contract. The update would have put me at spending about 50 dollars more per month, so I declined.
You can call and ask if you have a promo allowing you to upgrade early. Sometimes you do and they don't tell you until you ask. Happened to me. Also, if you call and complain about the phone they may offer you a 4g phone to upgrade early with. That also happened with me
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I had an EnV touch (yah know one of the worst phones ever) last time. It broke 6 times and they REFUSED to let me get something different. My upgrade I think would be January or Feb. if they are still doing the early upgrade stuff. I think this may just be luck on the OP's side of things. I would not expect anyone else getting this, bootloader locked whatever they don't care.
The least the OP could do is ask why their giving this to him.
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I had an EnVTouch too! I actually really liked mine. If you hacked it you could put different themes on it. I had an iPhone theme on mine. Also if you did the dun hack...free tethering!! Another not well known fact about that phone is that the screen had the best ppi out of any phone out there, save the iphone. The screen was beautiful.
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I've been offered an early upgrade twice this month on both lines that have the DX2. Problem is to get a suitable replacement, like a razr for the wife that she wants and a GNex or Rezound for me is that I have to spend $400-$600 still to upgrade. No thanks, I'll keep calling and swapping them, I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a phone, I'll wait and do my upgrade when they're free. Tired of paying so much for phones.
So, I'm sure it's not only me wondering this... Are we getting this thing ever?
most likely, lots of "feature updates" and motorola is 'part of' google now. gotta think they will support their flagship phone of 2012
Of course, even if we are going to get it we won't get it for at least another year, maybe year and a half.
I hope that with the release of the pdk the thing will go better, but i don't belive that we will get it soon
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So, I'm sure it's not only me wondering this... Are we getting this thing ever?
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10 Buy device
20 LOVE device
30 Learn new OS coming
40 HATE device
50 Whine until update arrives
60 GOTO 20
70 END
Official from Verizon/Motorola: <50%
From the devs: >95%
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amfetamine said:
Official from Verizon/Motorola: <50%
From the devs: >95%
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Irl, 0%
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Irl, 0%
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Reading post after post from you, it seems you're just a very negative person. Clearly you're anguishing over the disappointment your Razr has given you. I suggest you buy an iPhone.
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Reading post after post from you, it seems you're just a very negative person. Clearly you're anguishing over the disappointment your Razr has given you. I suggest you buy an iPhone.
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No, razr is the best phone I could have compare to my other Android devices, and I very happy with my razr.
The big disappointed I got, came from Motorola's developers and service.
And, no... Ios is bad, has no many options,the system designed for little kids/not intelligent people/lazy hoes/people who can't handle complicated os and etc.
I would never buy such low level device like iphone or ipad..
Iphone is like a console, like xbox or ps3.
And android is like pc.
Who's better? The pc.
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I'm assuming RAZR will get it, it is still one of the most up to date phones motorola have on offer.
Based on the ICS release I'd guess we get it rolling out about the same time the Nexus devices get Kola Kubes.
Hopefully at the same time motorola initially promise to keep the bootloader locked then decide to change their mind, completely ignore the promise and do the opposite.
Honestly, I think by the time we get it we'll all be ready to upgrade to a new phone if we haven't already. I'm gonna say Q2 2013...
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Honestly, I think by the time we get it we'll all be ready to upgrade to a new phone if we haven't already. I'm gonna say Q2 2013...
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No no no.. 2013? Motorola would never do such a thing... Be positive! Be realistic! We going to get this on 2019!!
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I don't really have much faith in Motorola updating our devices anytime soon. They're failing to meet their own release schedules for ICS so I don't see how they will have JB out anytime soon.
I was looking for a decent tablet and hoping to get a Prime but the Nexus 7 hits the price point perfectly so I ordered a 16gb one. Hopefully there isn't an issue with Google's release/shipping date so I can enjoy JB faster.
Considering how long it took them to push ICS I seriously doubt we will ever get and official Jelly Bean OTA update. Knowing Verizon they are probably going to EOL the RAZR/MAXX not long after the RAZR HD gets released. Constantly releasing new phones brings them more money... not supporting phones they have out already. The devs on the other hand will probably have one out soon.
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Considering how long it took them to push ICS
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Compared to who? The 7% who have ICS or the 93% who still don't?
I seriously doubt we will ever get and official Jelly Bean OTA update. Knowing Verizon they are probably going to EOL the RAZR/MAXX not long after the RAZR HD gets released.
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Funny, my Droid X went from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread and received several updates since.
Constantly releasing new phones brings them more money
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Hello and welcome to every phone manufacturer out there. Including Apple.
... not supporting phones they have out already.
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Nope.
The devs on the other hand will probably have one out soon.
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Well, that at least, is true.
By devs here on XDA: yes
By Motorola: no.
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Compared to who? The 7% who have ICS or the 93% who still don't?
Funny, my Droid X went from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread and received several updates since.
Hello and welcome to every phone manufacturer out there. Including Apple.
Nope.
Well, that at least, is true.
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Motorola promised ICS 6 weeks after its official release by Google.
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Releasing it the at the end of June is pretty far from their promise. And when other manufactures release ICS for their phones isn't relevant. This is about Motorola. So yes I have little faith in Motorola. If they had stated that ICS would be released for the RAZR in mid-2012 from the beginning I wouldn't complain. But that isn't what they promised.
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Motorola promised ICS 6 weeks after its official release by Google.
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Releasing it the at the end of June is pretty far from their promise. And when other manufactures release ICS for their phones isn't relevant. This is about Motorola. So yes I have little faith in Motorola. If they had stated that ICS would be released for the RAZR in mid-2012 from the beginning I wouldn't complain. But that isn't what they promised.
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They never promised they'd release it within 6 weeks, they promised that they'd release a list of devices that would get ICS. The Q2 release date was the only promise they ever made on it, and they've held to that for Verizon. On GSM, I'm not surprised they've pushed it back, because apparently there are some issues in this OTA and I'm sure they want to fix them up a bit, and then they'll push that update out as the first release for GSM users and a minor update for Verizon users. It probably won't that GSM users are waiting until the end of Q3 for ICS, it will probably be pretty soon.
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Motorola promised ICS 6 weeks after its official release by Google.
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Releasing it the at the end of June is pretty far from their promise. And when other manufactures release ICS for their phones isn't relevant. This is about Motorola. So yes I have little faith in Motorola. If they had stated that ICS would be released for the RAZR in mid-2012 from the beginning I wouldn't complain. But that isn't what they promised.
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If you READ what that infamous tweet said, they promised to release DEVICES for ICS. This means devices that meet the hardware requirements for ICS. They in no WAY promised ICS in 6 weeks and there is no way you can twist those tweets to mean that.
Waiting for ICS was horrible. I literally checked for updates every day before I threw in my towel and flashed the LATAM ICS ROM (and loving it).
If the RAZR isn't going to get the support it deserves, would you guys contemplate say, selling your device and getting an HTC One X/Galaxy SIII?
I mean, our devices are still new and can fetch a hefty sum...